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http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ay-ghosting-just-take-a-look-at-these-photos/
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Damn, doesnt sound good
Still, google did say that the tablets are still 'under testing' and should be getting a few more updates before released to us. Hopefully one of those will fix it
I'd be interested to know if any of the members here have encountered this issue?
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I'd like some corroboration if anyone has it.
Edit: Corroboration and comments. Are any of you seeing it in daily use? Etc.
Probably just from the bad batch
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Ha. This figures. I have a Prime and have had numerous display problem, along with many other Prime owners. Take a look in the Prime forums if you're interested. Asus uses crappy displays.
I'm sure if this was a big problem there would have been a lot more complaints by now.
Mine doesn't seem to have this issue, it does have a slight flicker though, but I'm hoping that will get sorted out with a newer build.
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adiliyo said:
Mine doesn't seem to have this issue, it does have a slight flicker though, but I'm hoping that will get sorted out with a newer build.
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Did you test that image?
Well, I have to say I have never taken my prime, set the screen to max bright, left and image static on it for "several minutes" and then checked.
Seems like an odd thing to do in day to day use.
my prime display operates & looks fine. way too early to associate this with prime issues. I hope this nexus forum doesn't get influenced by negative assumption driven mentality and the consumer version of Nexus 7 isn't even released yet.
way to soon to jump the gun on a reported issue. I see I may need to create Positive Nexus 7 thread also...lmfao
lets not become divided in this forum like prime one. it was the ones whose primes worked fine vs. those with issues. SMH. it got ugly in there, especially in the beginning. I thought I would be escaping the madness by this being a Nexus driven forum/device.
This is NOT a problem, ghosting is a common occurrence for all IPS displays. Just a quirk they have, don't leave the display on full brightness on a static image for 5min and you will be fine.
Hi,
my Nexus 7 has this problem.
I don't think it's a common "ghost IPS problem", because I get it also if I leave the tablet for 5 minuts in stand by (so screen off). When I power it on the screen is white and it takes about 1 minute to get normal.
The Ars Technica review suggests that the ghosting issue gets better over time. Fingers crossed.
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My G2x has an IPS display and doesn't ghost. This does however remind me of people going Max brightness in a dark room to test for "screen leak" and complaining when they find it under such drastic conditions. Yes, the article above does say even under automatic brightness but the fact that they tested with Max brightness made me chuckle.
I don't know... just not really worried about it. If it seriously ghosts really bad I'll return it, and if it doesn't I'll keep it.
Definitely jumping the gun on this one. No one has even seen a production model afaik, so just chill until you actually get yours.
Thanks OP for bringing the issue to our attention though.
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The Ars Technica review suggests that the ghosting issue gets better over time. Fingers crossed.
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I really hope. My Nexus 7 has been opened for the first time couple hours ago, but for now the problem is really annoying.
Hmmmm interesting thread. Guess we will know within the weeks to come!!
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My G2x has an IPS display and doesn't ghost. This does however remind me of people going Max brightness in a dark room to test for "screen leak" and complaining when they find it under such drastic conditions. Yes, the article above does say even under automatic brightness but the fact that they tested with Max brightness made me chuckle.
I don't know... just not really worried about it. If it seriously ghosts really bad I'll return it, and if it doesn't I'll keep it.
Definitely jumping the gun on this one. No one has even seen a production model afaik, so just chill until you actually get yours.
Thanks OP for bringing the issue to our attention though.
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My Prime had serious screen bleeding in a dark room, no wonder what the brightness was, so dont write off all the people who experienced screen bleed..That being said, and like others have mentioned, it is way too early to lump the nexus7 in with the TFP...although I did have my reservations about the nexus7 because of Asus's track record with tablets
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Hi,
my Nexus 7 has this problem.
I don't think it's a common "ghost IPS problem", because I get it also if I leave the tablet for 5 minuts in stand by (so screen off). When I power it on the screen is white and it takes about 1 minute to get normal.
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got my 16G Nexus 7 last night and experienced the exact same problem as yours, the washout took more than 5 mins to disappear
Ghosting, washout, flicker
I got my 16GB yesterday and have all three problems. After I close Chrome, for example, I can still see (faintly, but legibly) my tabs, the URL bar, the URL even, etc.
I have a slight flickering problem.
I definitely have a washout problem - and it changes, too. Sometimes it's severe, sometimes not so bad.
I'm going to give it another day or two and if it hasn't resolved itself I will probably return it for another one.
Hey all---
I just got off the phone with a resolution specialist supervisor (whatever that means) for the N7 who is shipping me out a replacement for my n7 with the touchscreen dead spot / unresponsiveness issues.
Anyhow, he told me that this IS a hardware problem--Google is aware of it, and is sending out replacements for anyone with this problem.
If you bought yours from the play store, you should call in 855-83NEXUS, tell them you have the problem, and they will ship you a replacement.
Hope this is helpful to people!
Please describe when does the dead spot occurs for you?
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Please describe when does the dead spot occurs for you?
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It's the same problems found here:
http://www.zdnet.com/nexus-7-touchscreen-problem-caught-on-video-7000001325/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1779652
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783637
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788868
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HEY i just read 28 pages of partial crap and why this isnt an issue, BUT i would like to defend some of us nit pickers, I play the smule game and also a regular piano app, and i usually have my tablet in a case since i broke my first with a 2 foot drop and so i have a tablet, not grounded, and i want to play the piano, and since the keys are line up, and i like to press more than one note at a time they dont always hit, either making gameplay on smule unbearable or my songs suck, i admit it doesnt really bother anything else BUT it ruins my favorite game and i made a decision to buy a nexus and n7 vs the galaxy note 2, so im a little stuck because im sure i cant return both because i dont like one of the devices, so understand this problem can be serious to some.
For me the touch unrespond when the temperature is high (outside the home in hot climate) around 40C
Anyone have this issue?
And should be return to warranty?
I need also the costumer service email please..
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I rarely see it and cant make it happen on command like some of the others like touching the screen prior to turning on the tablet and it not responding. Mine is sort of sporadic when it happens its definetly noticeable. So this is CONFIRMED a hardware issue huh? Looks like its going back to Office depot.. hope i can still return it. -_-
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HEY i just read 28 pages of partial crap and why this isnt an issue, BUT i would like to defend some of us nit pickers, I play the smule game and also a regular piano app, and i usually have my tablet in a case since i broke my first with a 2 foot drop and so i have a tablet, not grounded, and i want to play the piano, and since the keys are line up, and i like to press more than one note at a time they dont always hit, either making gameplay on smule unbearable or my songs suck, i admit it doesnt really bother anything else BUT it ruins my favorite game and i made a decision to buy a nexus and n7 vs the galaxy note 2, so im a little stuck because im sure i cant return both because i dont like one of the devices, so understand this problem can be serious to some.
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you can either plug in headphones or the charging cable. that will ground the n7 and eliminate the issue.
When I scroll up and down sometimes it registers swipes as a touch input. Is this the same problem? Sucks though cause this is a C90.
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When I scroll up and down sometimes it registers swipes as a touch input. Is this the same problem? Sucks though cause this is a C90.
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what build number do you have on your C90
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what build number do you have on your C90
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I exchanged that one already so I don't know what number that was. This had it occasionally but very minor but the colors does not seem as saturated as the old one. This one is JRO03S.
I have this on mine as well, but the screen is excellent with great colors, contrast, color temp, etc. After seeing a few with worse screens, I'll live with the occasional touchscreen glitch. If I were still within my return period, however, I'd bag the whole thing.
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I've received much from xda-developers forum, so I wanted to give a little back.
My Nexus 7 8GB had the flicker issue and some screen separation on the left hand side, I contacted Google and did the RMA process, yesterday I received the new one, and the change in hardware has eliminated the flicker issue. I know many people are waiting, hoping it's a software fix (and there may be one), but there is definitely some hardware change that fixed the flickering.
The panel in the new Nexus 7 seems different, as the color temperature is significantly cooler than on my original Nexus 7.
I recorded a quick video, which shows them side by side, it's hard to tell unless you're running full screen and HD, but the flickering is visible. Hopefully this helps those waiting for a software fix not get stuck with a bad screen...
Other than the flickering problem, this tablet rocks!
Could you post your serial# and CSSN off the box?
Doesn't have to be your exact serial#...just a rough one. E.g., mine is 338Kish and it still has the flicker issue...
What makes you so sure there's been a hardware revision?
I have one of the first N7's shipped from Google, and it's flicker free.
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What makes you so sure there's been a hardware revision?
I have one of the first N7's shipped from Google, and it's flicker free.
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What makes you so sure there's been a hardware revision?
I have one of the first N7's shipped from Google, and it's flicker free.
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I'm not sure there's been a hardware revision at all... It could just be two batches of the panels, one faulty? Or something else. All I know is that one panel is distinctively warm in color (the original) and has the flicker issue, and the other panel is cool and with no flicker. Maybe just a bad batch of panels? Or some of the other accompanying driver hardware? Assembly?
I'm just saying that a hardware change made a major and distinct difference for me.
When I get a chance I'll post the CSSN/SN.
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8GB
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I'm not sure there's been a hardware revision at all... It could just be two batches of the panels, one faulty? Or something else. All I know is that one panel is distinctively warm in color (the original) and has the flicker issue, and the other panel is cool and with no flicker. Maybe just a bad batch of panels? Or some of the other accompanying driver hardware? Assembly?
I'm just saying that a hardware change made a major and distinct difference for me.
When I get a chance I'll post the CSSN/SN.
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My dads Nexus 7 16gb has quite a yellow tint to the screen and the left side of the screen is sticking up - although I don't think it flickers.. He's getting a replacement tomorrow although it won't be directly from Google. (Tesco's)
I'll post up whether the screen is any different.
This is good info. Once we get more confirmation that perhaps a RMA will solve the issue, then we'll see how good Google is at doing exchanges from the Play store. This entire issue has been so hard to pin down.
It would be nice if Google was more proactive about it and just offered a solution, but that is wishful thinking, I know.
Thanks!
PS my SN on a 16GB model that demonstrates the flicker is:
SSN: C60KBC226---
I just got off the phone. Was on hold for all of 2 minutes. The whole phone call was 8 minutes and 18 seconds. Hopefully it all works out.
heh I did the map test too and saw flicker and planning my return, but I saw some other users were saying tegra devices had this problem. so I turned OFF the wifi, and there was still flickering!
so.. before anyone jumps to conclusions maybe try the map scroll with wifi off
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heh I did the map test too and saw flicker and planning my return, but I saw some other users were saying tegra devices had this problem. so I turned OFF the wifi, and there was still flickering!
so.. before anyone jumps to conclusions maybe try the map scroll with wifi off
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I had wifi on for both of them in the video, brightness set to the lowest setting, and the auto brightness checkbox off. It was happening to me in all applications, the map just seemed the easiest to reproduce in, so it may actually be related to the wifi receiving/sending data.
The new one does not have the issue at all.
can you try them both with wifi off?
I just got around to trying to find this issue on my Nexus 7, and I do see that the Maps app has some "flicker" (i.e., color or brightness changes). If this is what everyone is talking about (sorry, haven't kept up with this particular issue), then let me say that the EXACT same thing happened on my Transformer Prime.
I remain pretty sure that this whole issue is related to the PRISM power-saving tech that's a part of the Tegra 3 platform. I've seen too many wonky issues like this on too many Tegra 3 tablet to think it's not related (that includes the Prime, the Toshiba Excite 10, and the Toshiba Excite 7.7, the latter of which is even an AMOLED screen and so not subject to LCD-type issues).
So I tried to reproduce the flicker on my N7 and was only able to reproduce flicker upon panning in google maps. When I drag the map around and the street names are loading I can sometimes see a minimal flicker (generally when I a lot of loading is occurring). Its pretty subtle and only visible when brightness levels are low.
Don't see any flickering at any brightness level besides that.
To OP, can you see any flickering at all upon panning in your new device? my N7 doesn't flicker like the old one you have, I could probably bare with it.
In a dark room with a Strong wifi full bars and barely and WiFi signal had the same Flickering issue with google maps. It is something else.
So for me it doesn't appear WiFi signal effects it.
Going to be calling Google tomorrow.
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The panel in the new Nexus 7 seems different, as the color temperature is significantly cooler than on my original Nexus 7.
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The change in colour temp is probably just normal variation. No mobile devices are calibrated (including the iPad3) and they all show a fairly wide variety in their white balance. It is possible, though, that the flicker has some sort of causal relationship with the screen lift.
My search led me here after noticing the flicker issue while browsing the web on my n7 at night.
I just did the map test and it flickers every 5 secs with the WiFi ON. With WiFi OFF there is no flicker. Same with all the apps that use WiFi.
So is a this a HW or SW issue?
There's already a large thread on screen flicker. Not sure why we needed another. Maybe a mod can merge them.
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Thanks for the post. I received mine on Tuesday and noticed the screen flicker with the auto brightness. Called last night and they're sending me another. If the RMA flickers, I'll wait until Google's new Motorola division begins creating actual PURE Google products.
Here's my Nexus serial: xx0KBC019770
My first device had the screen separation issue. I have since had this replaced and the new one has the screen flicker.
It is most noticable when the brightness is at its lowest, above 20% it _almost_ disappears. turning wifi off seems to stop the flicker.
In the video did you have the brightness the same on both?
Please help. I am planning to buy nexus 6. I have read a lot about nexus 6 display issues like burn in issues , uneven color, grey lines and lower half of screen freezing. Some say these are present in all devices to variable extent and in most exist in mild form.
Should i get nexus 6 ? does these screen issues still exist?
Else i will buy Galaxy s6
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Please help. I am planning to buy nexus 6. I have read a lot about nexus 6 display issues like burn in issues , uneven color, grey lines and lower half of screen freezing. Some say these are present in all devices to variable extent and in most exist in mild form.
Should i get nexus 6 ? does these screen issues still exist?
Else i will buy Galaxy s6
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I've had mine since November 2014 and I have none of those issues.
Smooth sailing here
I keep it adaptive 66% brightness and its all good no burn-in that I can see I have noticed some specific apps like chrome cause a weird freeze on the right screen half happens maybe once a month with no pattern (a quick screen off/on fixes it could possibly be a custom kernel thing). Only other thing I'd say is the screen has a very warm color palette by default, I use code blue with kcal 237, 235, 255 to make a cooler feel, there's a thread about it somewhere. I've had mine since February.
drnishant123 said:
Please help. I am planning to buy nexus 6. I have read a lot about nexus 6 display issues like burn in issues , uneven color, grey lines and lower half of screen freezing. Some say these are present in all devices to variable extent and in most exist in mild form.
Should i get nexus 6 ? does these screen issues still exist?
Else i will buy Galaxy s6
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The Galaxy S6 has lots more software issues then the N6 atm and besides that i have never personaly had this screen issue. The N6 is a great phone especialy now it is beeing discounted here and there (US and UK).
Been rocking N6 for last 1 month and i am loving it. No issues at all. Like u i was also very concerned to put into huge sum of money into N6 purchase after reading soooooo many discouraging videos and reviews and comments.
But i am using it as my daily driver for like 1 month now and i haven't seen any issue related to screen, battery, or even software. 5.1.1 is very stable.
I keep the adaptive brightness on and brightness level at 50% and i get 4 - 4.5 hours SOT with everything on...including google now, location history, location reporting high accuracy.
No screen burn, no battery swelling, no battery life issues, no screen freezes, bt yes i'll admit the screen colour is more on a warmer side.
I got a Nexus 6 from Google Play and a friend got one from Motorola in June 2015. Both have screen issues, one have vertical banding noticeable on gray or dark backgrounds, the other has a yellow tint and very uneven backlighting. I'm not sure if most have these issues and simply aren't bothered or what. Not sure what to do at this point.
Flawless here
No issues with mine ....
mine works fine never had any of the issues above
No issues for me.
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There's no backlighting.
What I meant to say is that strips of the screen are brighter or darker than the rest of the screen and it looks blotchy. If I hadn't viewed a solid gray screen, I might not have noticed but this doesn't make me happy, especially knowing that Android M has a dark theme with lots of grays.
I've had my white 64gb from Motorola since March. Had it replaced once already for the screen tearing issue when running a custom dpi. The replacement I got a month ago does the same. Will be calling again soon
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I got a nexus 6 at ATT through the next program a couple months ago. It had banding on the right side of the screen right out of the box. It was pretty discouraging. I took it back and got it swapped for another unit and honestly couldn't be happier. The n6 is an amazing phone.
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I've had my white 64gb from Motorola since March. Had it replaced once already for the screen tearing issue when running a custom dpi. The replacement I got a month ago does the same. Will be calling again soon
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Screen tearing or half black?
Issues relating to custom DPI happen on them all.
I received mine on 6/18, no issues other than a pink hue at low brightness (with adaptive brightness turned on) which seems to be software based.
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Screen tearing or half black?
Issues relating to custom DPI happen on them all.
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Half black, and half freeze, which I've seen be referred to as screen tearing in just about all the posts I could find on it. Funny thing is on every kernel or ROM thread ice asked about it I've been told it does not happen on all of them. Seems many have had their phones replaced and had no issues in the replacement and that has led to people believing it's a hardware issue. Only other explanation I had seen was something about Franco saying it's a possible display driver issue. Sucks that I can't use Franco kernel at AOL because it becomes horrible
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Half black, and half freeze, which I've seen be referred to as screen tearing in just about all the posts I could find on it. Funny thing is on every kernel or ROM thread ice asked about it I've been told it does not happen on all of them. Seems many have had their phones replaced and had no issues in the replacement and that has led to people believing it's a hardware issue. Only other explanation I had seen was something about Franco saying it's a possible display driver issue. Sucks that I can't use Franco kernel at AOL because it becomes horrible
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The tearing, which by that I mean freezing definitely seems to be a graphics card issue. The half-black if you change the DPI and rotate clockwise so buttons are on the bottom, afaik happens to them all. I think this is related to the GPU to, though I don';t think that is hardware issue. The tearing issue seems to manifest more when the device is warm/hot
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The tearing, which by that I mean freezing definitely seems to be a graphics card issue. The half-black if you change the DPI and rotate clockwise so buttons are on the bottom, afaik happens to them all. I think this is related to the GPU to, though I don';t think that is hardware issue. The tearing issue seems to manifest more when the device is warm/hot
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The tearing is a graphics card software or hardware issue? I love this phone, but it's getting very frustrating. Especially since my RMA prices with Motorola turned out to be a series of clusterf*cks.
I'm running Chroma right now and with the included Franco it's unusable in both my phones at a lower dpi. Half screen freezes left and right within seconds of starting up. The reasons I initially believed it was software was that it only seems to happen in certain apps. Specifically ones that required a lot of scrolling, like XDA, Facebook, and chrome. But no one else in the thread seems to have the issue
The half black screen I figured had to be software because the soft buttons are still on the screen.
I just wish there was a solid answer so I could stop guessing
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crzycrkr said:
The tearing is a graphics card software or hardware issue? I love this phone, but it's getting very frustrating. Especially since my RMA prices with Motorola turned out to be a series of clusterf*cks.
I'm running Chroma right now and with the included Franco it's unusable in both my phones at a lower dpi. Half screen freezes left and right within seconds of starting up. The reasons I initially believed it was software was that it only seems to happen in certain apps. Specifically ones that required a lot of scrolling, like XDA, Facebook, and chrome. But no one else in the thread seems to have the issue
The half black screen I figured had to be software because the soft buttons are still on the screen.
I just wish there was a solid answer so I could stop guessing
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I've never had the tearing issue and not everyone has that one. The guys who have had an RMA have generally said that it had stopped the issue happening. Im not sure that has any link to DPI either. My suspician based on not really any evidence at all is that it is hardware related, since some have it and some do not.
The half black is definitely linked to DPI and there is no fix to that that I am aware. I just turn that rotation mode off so I can only go anti-clockwise.
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I've never had the tearing issue and not everyone has that one. The guys who have had an RMA have generally said that it had stopped the issue happening. Im not sure that has any link to DPI either. My suspician based on not really any evidence at all is that it is hardware related, since some have it and some do not.
The half black is definitely linked to DPI and there is no fix to that that I am aware. I just turn that rotation mode off so I can only go anti-clockwise.
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The weird thing with me with the tearing is it only happens in certain situations and has been consistent across both devices I had. Certain kernels I get it, other ones I do not. Franco has been unusable for me on both. It has only happened at lower dpi. Never on stock. Send to be less frequent with interactive governors than ondemand or conservative
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From day one with this device, when I touch the screen to say launch an app from the drawer, I can be too quick or light about it. I've not had this issue with other devices, I am often tapping an option on the screen only to have to retap it for the phone to follow instructions. This doesn't seem to positive correlate with os version or rom or kernel.....so then assuming this isn't an issue specific to my device only....where does the issue lie and is it fixable?
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Have not experienced this issue. You might want to get your piece replaced.
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From day one with this device, when I touch the screen to say launch an app from the drawer, I can be too quick or light about it. I've not had this issue with other devices, I am often tapping an option on the screen only to have to retap it for the phone to follow instructions. This doesn't seem to positive correlate with os version or rom or kernel.....so then assuming this isn't an issue specific to my device only....where does the issue lie and is it fixable?
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If you happen to run stock rom without any kind of screen protectors on top the display and you still have these touch issues, i'm afraid it is a spesific issue with your device.