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I first became concerned when after sitting with the screen off for 2 hours, the N7 was hot and had lost 45% of its charge.
I think I know what is going on. Jelly Bean apparently is completely ignoring the .nomedia file in some folders that have massive numbers of files. In particular, Backcountry Navigator, which automatically creates a .nomedia file in its folder, has 60,000 map tiles, and I think the media scanner is trying to scan all 60,000 tiles while the N7's screen is off. The Tegra 3 never gets to use any of its power saving features because it is kept constantly busy. *ALL* my other Android devices, the BCNAV folder is ignored by media scanner, and they last a long time with the screen off.
That does look odd. Bumping this so maybe someone with more knowledge on the subject can weigh in.
I also just noticed this media server thing taking bigger portion of battery today which was not present before. Mine is media server not media scanner.
If I remember correctly, it was not there before. Any idea?
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More info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29461446
Salty Wagyu said:
More info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29461446
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Thanks for the link but sadly it isn't any help. Before posting here I did an exhaustive Google search and tried all of the "fixes" to no avail.
The .nomedia file is completely ignored. I have cleared the cache, cleared the data, force stopped and rebooted several times. I am in the process of moving all the map tiles off to an external drive to verify that they are causing the problem. I can only get about 20,000 at a time before the battery dies. I tried moving them off via wifi so I could keep it plugged in but that was taking way too long.
DrHenley said:
Thanks for the link but sadly it isn't any help. Before posting here I did an exhaustive Google search and tried all of the "fixes" to no avail.
The .nomedia file is completely ignored. I have cleared the cache, cleared the data, force stopped and rebooted several times. I am in the process of moving all the map tiles off to an external drive to verify that they are causing the problem. I can only get about 20,000 at a time before the battery dies. I tried moving them off via wifi so I could keep it plugged in but that was taking way too long.
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What makes you think it's ignoring the .nomedia files? If it was ignoring them them you would see a lot of random images in your gallery and random sound files in Google play.
Did you check to see which media process is actually in use, and that it is actually the media scanner process? Also check that the process isn't stuck in a restarting loop.
The most common problem for something like this is a corrupt image/song/movie that it's trying to scan.
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scuba156 said:
What makes you think it's ignoring the .nomedia files? If it was ignoring them them you would see a lot of random images in your gallery and random sound files in Google play.
Did you check to see which media process is actually in use, and that it is actually the media scanner process? Also check that the process isn't stuck in a restarting loop.
The most common problem for something like this is a corrupt image/song/movie that it's trying to scan.
adb pushed from my nexus 7
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Yes, random images in gallery, like map tiles, and none of my pictures from the DCIM folders.
I moved off all of the map tiles (took two days) and today things are back to "normal".
YES, absolutely the Media Scanner was causing it and YES, it was ignoring the .nomedia file in the BCNAV folder. Because the folder starts with "B" media scanner never got to my DCIM folder. Now without the 60,000 map tiles in the BCNAV folders, Media Scanner completes its scan quickly and doesn't eat the battery.
The test today showed a dramatic difference.
Before:
60,000 map tiles in the BCNAV folder (which had a .nomedia file in it from the getgo)
WIFI Off
GPS Off
after a few hours with the screen off, the device was hot.
After:
no map tiles in the BCNAV folder
WIFI On
GPS On
after a few hours with the screen off, the device was cold
Interesting... in another thread, Media Server was draining the battery pretty quickly, but it appears to be the fault of an OTG adapter with a device plugged in. I'm assuming you had nothing plugged into the USB the first time?
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Chinpokomon said:
Interesting... in another thread, Media Server was draining the battery pretty quickly, but it appears to be the fault of an OTG adapter with a device plugged in. I'm assuming you had nothing plugged into the USB the first time?
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Nope, nothing plugged in. Screen was off, WIFI was off, GPS was off, Bluetooth was off, and yet the CPU was running full bore for hours.
The problem still hasn't resurfaced. I'm going to start moving map tiles back onto the device and see what happens...
I left the map tiles off of the device for a week, and never experienced any problems. Then a couple of days ago I moved about 40,000 tiles back on the device.
Now Media Scanner is eating the battery again. I'm going to leave it with the screen off overnight starting with a full charge and check again in the morning...
DrHenley said:
I left the map tiles off of the device for a week, and never experienced any problems. Then a couple of days ago I moved about 40,000 tiles back on the device.
Now Media Scanner is eating the battery again. I'm going to leave it with the screen off overnight starting with a full charge and check again in the morning...
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Surely you have them marked .nomedia right? Media scanner shouldn't look at them at all.
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Surely you have them marked .nomedia right? Media scanner shouldn't look at them at all.
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OP stated in several posts he had the .nomedia file in the affected directories. Just to clarify, OP, is your .nomedia file zero bytes as required?
Where did u guys find the map tiles?
Yes, they are 0 byte files. I have the same apps (Backcountry Navigator and Maverick) on four other tablets and a phone and I don't have this problem on them. (Ice Cream Sandwich, Honeycomb, Gingerbread and Froyo)
I used Maverick to get the tiles. It's the only way I know of to get Bing Map tiles. It's a rather tedious job...
I just tested it again. I charged the tablet, turned it on, put it in Airplane Mode, and turned off the screen. Media Scanner ate 10% of the battery in just two hours - Screen off, WIFI off, GPS off, Bluetooth off. I think I'm going to try calling Google about this.
Here is the FINAL PROOF that Media Scanner is trying to scan the map tiles, disregarding the .nomedia files in the folders:
On first bootup the battery went from 100% down to 89% in two hours - IN AIRPLANE MODE with the screen off.
Then after renaming the folders containing the map tiles, the battery went from 89% to 88% in 8 hours. Renaming the folders stopped Media Scanner cold.
I have seen scattered reports about this problem with JB, but nobody has gotten to the bottom of it yet. There is speculation that it has something to do with the "/storage/sdcard0" location for the internal fake sdcard.
Glad I don't use Backcountry Navigator anymore.. Switched to Locus about a year ago.
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Glad I don't use Backcountry Navigator anymore.. Switched to Locus about a year ago.
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If I could get the same detailed imagery in a database file that would definitely make like easier. The only problem is that with Locus I can't seem to find a way to get the same level of detail.
Here is a screenshot of both Locus and BCNav showing 33.21773,-90.38529 at the highest zoom level in each. I'm using Mapquest satellite for Locus and Bing Satellite for BCNav (obtained via Maverick)
I tried using the Maverick tiles in Locus but it didn't recognize them as a map. BCNav does. But that doesn't solve the problem. A database file containing the map tiles would make my life 10 time easier because transferring 60,000 tiles takes two days...:silly:
In the tablets and phone with sdcard slots, I simply shut down, pull the microsd, pop it in a card reader on the computer and sync it up. Then pop it back into the table and start it up. BCNav lets me use the map tiles directly off of the microsd without having to transfer them.
Most likely cause to me is a bad .nomedia file. Trailing blank in the filename or something. Delete the one you have and create a new zero length one with correct permissions. You have tried about everything else...
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Related
There was a disturbance in the Android App Market today as an application called MemoryUp was allegedly erasing contacts and installing adware. The mystery is how it got there in the first place.
The app, created by a developer named Peter Liu to optimize the handset's memory, was also responsible for random memory wipes and email account spamming.
At the Android forums, users who had downloaded the app and suffered the consequences were, understandably, up in arms and warning others to not download the app.
User “kr33p1n” (via Geek.com) said, “Doesn’t work at all erased my phone numbers and froze my phone.” User "Mark" added, “Do not download. Destroyed my memory card/system delete. Then my email was spammed. TMobile can’t stop you from downloading this! So don’t!”
Other victims claimed their SD cards were wiped clean; others still said their email accounts were spammed and adware was installed on the handset.
What's really mind-boggling is that, as of this writing, 10,000-50,000 downloads had taken place, with around 932 ratings logged (mostly negative, one star, see pic). We really can't understand how such an app got there in the first place.
The sad thing is that, as noted by many Android forum dwellers, Java cleans up memory on its own as required, no outside help necessary.
Editor's Note: I did not link to the MemoryUp web page because it had obnoxious pop up ads. [Geek.com - Thanks, Chris!]
http://i.gizmodo.com/5138822/rogue-android-app-allegedly-destroying-g1-memory-installing-adware
I was one of those that downloaded it, Hell I even suggested that it did in fact do something.... but then I decided to really try and see a difference and lo and behold there's no difference as far as performance goes.
Still I never would have assumed that there was anything like adware on it, but one thing is certain IT DOES NOTHING TO INCREASE PERFORMANCE, so there's really no point to it anyways.
I don't see it on the Market now. It must have been taken down.
Yeah there is another post in main dream forum. Believe it or not handango has been selling it. Great post by both of you to get the word out about this garbage!!
Yea, I sent vendors of the product a message and links regarding this issue. Hopefully it'll be pulled off the stores soon.
I did some investigation on this issue. I managed to get the program to delete my contacts on a dummy account I set up. I started getting some weird issues, like I couldn't use my camera anymore because it said I need to install my SD Card. That was a red flag to me. So I pulled the card and opened it up on my test laptop and here is the screen shot of the sh!t I found. Needless to say I'm pretty upset by this.
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Nothing from this card can be deleted. Tried using chmod a+x to regain access and remove the... whatever those files are but I got back a message stating that the file system was read-only and that the permission set 40700 was unrecognized and could not be changed. I did some more research and found that the file types are octet data files. Opening them in gedit doesn't display anything. Not sure if its some other encoding that I can't view through standard text editing. Nevertheless, I'm sick of dealing with this issue and have started trying to get this thing banned from as many outlets as possible.
Woah! That's seriously messed up. Definitely wasn't doing that when I installed it. Now that I think about it though my pc caught that malware that sets up an "autorun.inf" at the root of all drives to run crap some time ago. I don't really visit weird pages and I'm pretty careful not to get any virus/malware/adware so I was kinda surprised. Anyways I remember seeing somebody else 3 or 4 days after saying their g1's card had the same thing. Not being one to believe in coincidence, I'm willing to bet he also installed this on his android at some point.
Exactly, I had an autorun.inf and an start.exe file embedded on all my sd cards that came in contact with my pc after pulling some files from my G1. Things got so bad I just gave up and went full blown Linux in hopes of catching and fixing the problems. I lost control of cmd, task manager and regedit on my windows machines. Couldn't get any antivirus programs to completely clean the infected drives.
d474rpr said:
Exactly, I had an autorun.inf and an start.exe file embedded on all my sd cards that came in contact with my pc after pulling some files from my G1. Things got so bad I just gave up and went full blown Linux in hopes of catching and fixing the problems. I lost control of cmd, task manager and regedit on my windows machines. Couldn't get any antivirus programs to completely clean the infected drives.
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Aha! Oh and Malwarebytes' anti-malware got rid of it for me immediately. Anyways, Blue*lable mentioned something probably even more important than the program being adware, and that's the fact that despite all the negative remarks on the comments, so on and so forth, people were still downloading it. Now as you all know the comments section is full of comments made by idiots (for the most part), and many don't even read the comments because of it (I can at least say that I don't read them anymore), so there's a little thread on the official android forums where a few of us have tried to convince google to do something about it. The thread is:
http://www.google.com/support/forum...ad?fid=6aa202f080f83438000460b52bc0c075&hl=en
If any of you have some free time let google know that nobody warned us about all those irrelevant and disrespectful comments when we got this phone. They are slowly taking care of somethings, but they really need to up the ante and implement some sort of moderation or something.
PS. sorry for going off topic and hijacking the thread.
yeah, got that one too, though before downgrading from rc30 to rc29 and back to rc33... but anyway, it garbled my SD so bad that it did not worked on any of my readers connected to pc (either windows or linux) however... while mounted in my G1 and connected to the windows based machine, i was able to remove and put back partition (since i could not format card because under "size" was unknown) after that format, and voila... works like a charm... used built-in windows partition tool.
hope that helps in case of problems.
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d474rpr said:
I did some investigation on this issue. I managed to get the program to delete my contacts on a dummy account I set up. I started getting some weird issues, like I couldn't use my camera anymore because it said I need to install my SD Card. That was a red flag to me. So I pulled the card and opened it up on my test laptop and here is the screen shot of the sh!t I found. Needless to say I'm pretty upset by this.
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Nothing from this card can be deleted. Tried using chmod a+x to regain access and remove the... whatever those files are but I got back a message stating that the file system was read-only and that the permission set 40700 was unrecognized and could not be changed. I did some more research and found that the file types are octet data files. Opening them in gedit doesn't display anything. Not sure if its some other encoding that I can't view through standard text editing. Nevertheless, I'm sick of dealing with this issue and have started trying to get this thing banned from as many outlets as possible.
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I had that happen on my phone too,but i DIDNT use memory up....I think what happened was google did an eval and decided there was nothing bad...
BTW,that card will never work again, happened to me
Talk to whoever soldyou the phone: its defective
memoryup
Hmm I must have the super antidote virus G1 cause as much as I try for the program to fck something up on my phone such as delete my contacs,spam email, or something at this point I really feel like I'm not using the application as I'm supposed to I can't seem to make it do what 90% of the ppl say it does I try to run it 3 times a day hoping for some malfuction on my phone or atleast 1 contact to erase but I just can't seem to do it maybe someone in here can teach me how to use this app the proper so that atleast I get one spam emailor one contact deleted and ill be content with that and I would feel much better too knowing I don't have a super G1. I'm open to any suggestions on how to make this app work
pdspatrick said:
I had that happen on my phone too,but i DIDNT use memory up....I think what happened was google did an eval and decided there was nothing bad...
BTW,that card will never work again, happened to me
Talk to whoever soldyou the phone: its defective
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I appreciate your suggestion but the phone is not defective.
The card that was infected was a Sony Micro USB drive, not the SD card from my phone. When the application was ran in my emulator it caused the sd.iso to have more data than what I was able to see. I moved this data from my windows box to my laptop running Ubuntu to get a better look. That's when I discovered that the only application residing in the sd.iso image was memoryup and a gaggle of octal files that I haven't been able to decode. Immediately after running that application my work PC became infected to the point of having to completely format the harddrives. My USB drive is also unsalvagable. If I can be proven wrong and that this application had nothing to do with my experience I will openly apoligize for my misdiagnosis. I have been working in the mobile device industry for several years and have never had any issues as to the extent of what I'm assuming this application caused. I find it curious as to why the application was removed from the Market and several online stores that carried the application if there wasn't a problem to begin with. If anyone has any further information on the contacts being deleted, if maybe this was an attack on the actual gmail accounts or if it was device based... what was causing everyone to have simular issues around the same time with adware/spyware/viral infections on SD cards/PC's??? Feedback please!!!
I have no clue what happened....my galaxy was working fine...laggy a bit, but nothing i cant handle. I was at a club last night and recorded a 20 mins video...its saved. So as of this mornign my galaxy has been crawlingggg to load things....everything is either delayed or going really slow. NoLed is slow, chomp sms popup is slow....this phone is starting to commit suicide or something....any ideas why my phone started to all of a sudden lag alot?....when it didnt before???....and no lag fix is not a option for me.
Back up the video on your pc then delete it from the phone and see if that restores it back to its original speed.
sean2476 said:
Back up the video on your pc then delete it from the phone and see if that restores it back to its original speed.
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trying that now....for some reason kies seem to take forever to transfer video to pc. sigh....
Have u tried rebooting ur phone?
Seifer1975 said:
Have u tried rebooting ur phone?
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yes i have and am now trasnferring the video...but Kies is taking sooooo long to do so. Its a real pain. I hope it was lagging cause of the massive amounts of videos i have...we shall see. (if i can get the video transferred)
if you're rooted you can try adjusting the minfree settings using the minfree app
jark99 said:
I have no clue what happened....my galaxy was working fine...laggy a bit, but nothing i cant handle. I was at a club last night and recorded a 20 mins video...its saved. So as of this mornign my galaxy has been crawlingggg to load things....everything is either delayed or going really slow. NoLed is slow, chomp sms popup is slow....this phone is starting to commit suicide or something....any ideas why my phone started to all of a sudden lag alot?....when it didnt before???....and no lag fix is not a option for me.
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This is what happened to my galaxy s as well. I have no recovery mode and root/lag fix was not an option for me till i found my solution step by step. I applied One click lag fix and it become so much smoother and faster. Sms notification has no delay even on Chomp Sms. =) The hardware of Galaxy S was good, but the firmware is a problem.
cheeshun said:
This is what happened to my galaxy s as well. I have no recovery mode and root/lag fix was not an option for me till i found my solution step by step. I applied One click lag fix and it become so much smoother and faster. Sms notification has no delay even on Chomp Sms. =) The hardware of Galaxy S was good, but the firmware is a problem.
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it seems ok now....(well not really )...but the reason i dont want to apply a lag fix is cause of the "reported" internal sd card fails....and i dont have $ for a new phone if this one gets screwed over.
install Task Manager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8422188&postcount=99
and Auto Run Killer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8123924&postcount=40
optimize your phone, and the lags will be gone
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jark99 said:
I have no clue what happened....my galaxy was working fine...laggy a bit, but nothing i cant handle. I was at a club last night and recorded a 20 mins video...its saved. So as of this mornign my galaxy has been crawlingggg to load things....everything is either delayed or going really slow. NoLed is slow, chomp sms popup is slow....this phone is starting to commit suicide or something....any ideas why my phone started to all of a sudden lag alot?....when it didnt before???....and no lag fix is not a option for me.
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AllGamer said:
install Task Manager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8422188&postcount=99
and Auto Run Killer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8123924&postcount=40
optimize your phone, and the lags will be gone
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i have auto killer and i just use stock task manager...as alot of people have been saying other task managers are useless cause Android OS is designed to handle it....confused....
the stock task manager is not that great, and the widget only works on the stock launcher.
the task manager the one i linked you can setup white list and black list
so it will automatically allow what to run, and kill what should not be running on its own
I wouldn't of used Kies to make the transfer, should've used a mass storage and transferred it using windows explorer. Also, I'd advocate against the task manager. I haven't used one on the SGS in about 2 months, back when I did I never let it run 24/7, sometimes I'd manually open it and kill almost all tasks. Task killers, such as ATK, will almost surely hurt your battery life if you let them run in the background, in fact, I'd even bet on it.
These days, I try to keep all my favorite programs in the background (unless they use CPU while idle, but even GTalk is great on battery life, as is LauncherPro and the widgets I have elected to keep). As long as you use the same 10-20 apps you should be fine, even if you use more you might be fine but not quite as good depending on how many apps you have loaded and storage space you use in total.
Since I highly doubt that the file size was huge and would overload the system, I wonder if a bug either sprang up and/or (maybe more likely) you created a hardware problem such as overheating your phone and processor and are now having issues. If nothing else works, try to back up all your apps and info to an SD card and then do a factory reset. If your problems continue then it's hardware.
Now I dont know whether to.keep the task apps or not lol...2 different opinions here...
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The lagfixes don't increase the amount of writes to the internal SD and they certainly don't break it. Any of the lagfixes in the FAQ (see my sig) are well tested and nearly 100% safe. I would definitely recommend to either use voodoo or the modded version that uses the stock-kernel. You won't believe your eyes.
The reason your phone got so damn slow was because of RFS. The camera APP caches on the /data partition and when it does so, it created a massive amount of file system errors (a related thread can be found here).
Darkstriker said:
The lagfixes don't increase the amount of writes to the internal SD and they certainly don't break it. Any of the lagfixes in the FAQ (see my sig) are well tested and nearly 100% safe. I would definitely recommend to either use voodoo or the modded version that uses the stock-kernel. You won't believe your eyes.
The reason your phone got so damn slow was because of RFS. The camera APP caches on the /data partition and when it does so, it created a massive amount of file system errors (a related thread can be found here).
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So if i apply a lag fix...either OCLF or Voodoo...you can Guarantee i wont see a internal sd failure?...cause i remember All Gamer talking about how he wanted to fix the lag fix to write onto sd card or something like that...(dont quote me) its 100% safe?
AllGamer said:
the stock task manager is not that great, and the widget only works on the stock launcher.
the task manager the one i linked you can setup white list and black list
so it will automatically allow what to run, and kill what should not be running on its own
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Don't many developers etc say not to run task killers? They actually cause more drain on the phone and battery?
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Note, however, that this is still a contested notion. A lot of developers (including ROM builder extraordinaire, Cyanogen) will not even look at your bug reports if you're using a task killer. In this humble blogger's opinion, your best bet is to stay away from regular task killer usage entirely.
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i trust the hard fact results of the good it is doing in my phone, rather than some biased believes that just lags the phone if not actioned upon.
I dont know if I would call advice from well known developers as biased. Especially considering several others have shared this setiment. But what ever floats your boat. You are some what of a mr know it all here...
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think about it logically, you do nothing to the phone and it lags like hell
or you can install legit software which easily lets you choose what to run and what not to run
result: system is squeaky clean and snappy fast
vs.
do nothing: system lags like hell, come to the forum complain the phone lags and claim other people are right we should do nothing and have an unusable phone.
Well the lag on my phone is minimal, it actually performs quite well. My phone died without any lag fixes etc, so I am not putting any of that on now. My problem is GPS is useless and the random shutdowns.
What is Indexservice and why is it killing my battery? Anyone else having this problem?
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Idk, I'm gonna freeze it in Titanium and see if anything fun happens.
Post back with what you discover.
Been frozen since I posted. Haven't noticed any difference.
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What is Indexservice and why is it killing my battery? Anyone else having this problem?
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This looks like it was an issue with some Note 3s and trouble with PDF files, causing the indexservice to run constantly. Google "android indexservice" and read to your heart's content about the frustration.
Seems to be related to pdf files or 64 Gb microSD cards or trying to index large Dropboxes. Or maybe something else. You may have to try several things that seemed to help others.
Unless you're searching your files for particular text strings often, indexing is not really required (it speeds up searches of your files). I have it disabled on all my computers ( computers have it also) and phones since it uses battery, cpu cycles and space. On brand new phone it could take a while to index all files from scratch, so it doesn't have to be that infamous pdf indexing bug, but very well it could be. You need root to freeze it, or you could force stop it without root, but it will restart later. unfortunately I don't think you can turn it off, like some other apps in apps manager.
Well it's still frozen on mine and nothing has changed lol.
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Well it's still frozen on mine and nothing has changed lol.
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Kill the process. That should last until you next boot (or run certain apps that trigger the indexing service).
I only had the problem on the first night. Since then it's been fine. Also you can put it in power saving mode. Just use the minimum setting so you won't notice that much different.
On my Note 4 I deleted all pdf's from my sd card and the indexservice battery drain has stopped. I opened the My Files app, opened Documents and deleted the pdf's from there. I backed them up first to Dropbox so no worries there.
Hi guys , same is happening to me . I think it starts after last update couple days ago . Which version of Note 4 you got ? My si Snapdragon version . I try pull out micro sd card but no change index service is still running and eating my nattery. I also try stopped the proces it helps but only for some time after some time it starts automaticaly . Have you tried factory reset ? Any help ? "sorry for my poor english"
Bad PDF files on your card will cause this, just like corrupted music/videos will cause the media scanner to run out of control. Delete the PDFs, restart the phone, and you should be fine.
i would freeze the indexing service too though. It's not a critical function.
Thank you . You was right , it was corrupted downloaded apk instalation file. After I deleted that file there is no more indexing battery drain.
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Thank you . You was right , it was corrupted downloaded apk instalation file. After I deleted that file there is no more indexing battery drain.
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before the most recent update received Monday, everything was fine.. now its eating my battery alive with or without the memory card. havent done a factory reset as of yet, because well.. factory reset. completely stock & unmodded as well. now what?
i ran into this problem after i moved my SanDisk Micro SD (32gb) card from my T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3 to my new T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 4 and about an hour later noticed that the battery was down from 100% to 88%. i checked the batter usage and showed that the IndexService process was running constantly.
i talked to T-Mobile Customer Care and Sumsung Technical support but could not resolve the problem. both recommended to just remove the card and not use it - defeats the purpose of expanded memory. i also purchased a new Samsung EVO micro SD (32gb) card, formatted on the phone, transferred my folders and files, and had the same result.
after countless time talking to T-Mobile, chats with Samsung, and searching Note 4 and Android forums, i found a member (worwig) who said he resolved the issue by renaming his directories by putting a period in front of the name (ie: MyMusic became .MyMusic).
i decided to try this. after i renamed my folders to start with a period, i noticed that they were hidden to the Android system, so i had to change the MyFile setting to show hidden files. i powered off my phone, charged to 100%, and started it up again, and the IndexService process was gone. i think that the Android system (4.4.4) does not like non-system folders on the micro SD card.
people who just use the micro SD card to store the pictures and video taken by the phone should not have this issue unless they create their own folders and place files in them. for me i like to have folders to organize my files (t does not matter the type of files on the card: .doc, .xls, .pdf, .mp3, .wmv, etc).
so if you do put a micro SD card in your phone and have non-system folders to organize your content, you will need to rename them to start with a period (ie: MyMusic becomes .MyMusic) so the Android system does not see them and the IndexService process will not run. you will also need to change MyFiles setting to show hidden files.
my Note 4 is working the way it should and the battery life is awesome.
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i ran into this problem after i moved my SanDisk Micro SD (32gb) card from my T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3 to my new T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 4 and about an hour later noticed that the battery was down from 100% to 88%. i checked the batter usage and showed that the IndexService process was running constantly.
i talked to T-Mobile Customer Care and Sumsung Technical support but could not resolve the problem. both recommended to just remove the card and not use it - defeats the purpose of expanded memory. i also purchased a new Samsung EVO micro SD (32gb) card, formatted on the phone, transferred my folders and files, and had the same result.
after countless time talking to T-Mobile, chats with Samsung, and searching Note 4 and Android forums, i found a member (worwig) who said he resolved the issue by renaming his directories by putting a period in front of the name (ie: MyMusic became .MyMusic).
i decided to try this. after i renamed my folders to start with a period, i noticed that they were hidden to the Android system, so i had to change the MyFile setting to show hidden files. i powered off my phone, charged to 100%, and started it up again, and the IndexService process was gone. i think that the Android system (4.4.4) does not like non-system folders on the micro SD card.
people who just use the micro SD card to store the pictures and video taken by the phone should not have this issue unless they create their own folders and place files in them. for me i like to have folders to organize my files (t does not matter the type of files on the card: .doc, .xls, .pdf, .mp3, .wmv, etc).
so if you do put a micro SD card in your phone and have non-system folders to organize your content, you will need to rename them to start with a period (ie: MyMusic becomes .MyMusic) so the Android system does not see them and the IndexService process will not run. you will also need to change MyFiles setting to show hidden files.
my Note 4 is working the way it should and the battery life is awesome.
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THANK YOU! One question to clarify tho, just the cards root directory folders get renamed or every subfolder as well?
Hello tb21666,
because i changed the storage location of the pictures and videos taken by the phone camera to the memory card, the Android System added these system folders that i did not rename: Android, Camera, DCIM, and LOST.DIR. i only renamed my person folders but not any sub-folder within them.
for example, i have a main folder called Music with many sub-folders for each artist - i only renamed the main folder (Music to .Music) and did not rename the sub-folders. just remember to change the File settings to show hidden files.
another thing that i noticed was that these renamed folders are invisible to Windows when you connect your phone via the usb cable. changing the view settings does not show them either.
hope this helps and makes sense.
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Hello tb21666,
because i changed the storage location of the pictures and videos taken by the phone camera to the memory card, the Android System added these system folders that i did not rename: Android, Camera, DCIM, and LOST.DIR. i only renamed my person folders but not any sub-folder within them.
for example, i have a main folder called Music with many sub-folders for each artist - i only renamed the main folder (Music to .Music) and did not rename the sub-folders. just remember to change the File settings to show hidden files.
another thing that i noticed was that these renamed folders are invisible to Windows when you connect your phone via the usb cable. changing the view settings does not show them either.
hope this helps and makes sense.
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Yeah, I figured all that out myself last night via trial & error waiting for a reply. Thanks tho! You don't know how much the initial solution has helped not only myself but countless others. Cheers!
I was inside the Samsung tool My Files, then option Get more space.
It informs me that I have approx 4gb of duplicate files that I can clean up.
I am presented with a list of duplicates and their folder location. I don't understand how a same file name can be duplicated within the same folder. I have attached screenshot with highlights next to them. Thought I'd ask before deleting.
I'm assuming I'd check one of each duplicate and the system will then delete them. But like I said how can there be a same file name within the same folder ?
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I would read the SD card on my computer and do clean up manually, after checking card for errors. IMO whole Android file system is messed up, it doesn't show whole folders I know I have on my card. It was showing duplicate folder on mine as well, one was original folder I copy manually from older phone, another folder was actually linking to my google backup of the same folder from my older phone, with some files actually downloaded and some in the cloud. To make things worse once I deleted some files from cloud, it synced and deleted those files from the device as well. I got so confused, I had to shut down auto cloud backup and sort files manually, but I had 3 devices linked to the same google account. I suspect something similar is happening on your device.
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I would read the SD card on my computer and do clean up manually, after checking card for errors. IMO whole Android file system is messed up, it doesn't show whole folders I know I have on my card. It was showing duplicate folder on mine as well, one was original folder I copy manually from older phone, another folder was actually linking to my google backup of the same folder from my older phone, with some files actually downloaded and some in the cloud. To make things worse once I deleted some files from cloud, it synced and deleted those files from the device as well. I got so confused, I had to shut down auto cloud backup and sort files manually, but I had 3 devices linked to the same google account. I suspect something similar is happening on your device.
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That's concerning, glad I checked here first before selecting all and pressing delete. I remember once doing this and a S6 edge or S7 in respect to temp files or unused files, and it deleted all my pics on my SD card LOL.
So in essence, it's best to the file house keeping on a PC.
Is there a utility that once I connect my SD card to the PC , it can scan for duplicate files. I'm sure over time my backups and manual copying and pasting has generated a few duplicates of pics and videos and mp3 files.
Cheers.
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It's a personal choice: I like to have full control of everything myself and often automated things often don't work the way I want them or expect them to work. I had to delete some pics from Google cloud, because I was running out of allocated space and since at some point I had 3 or maybe even 4 devices linked to the same account, some stuff was duplicated. Didn't expect deleting one set would delete second as well. I'm sure there are simple rules you need to follow and it should work fine. But I don't want to bother. I think you copy folder manually to SD card and after activating, google linked backed up folder from cloud as well, but I'm guessing here. That's why I would check on the computer and see what folders are actually there, I've seen folders or even whole cards showing as duplicate, when they weren't.
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It's a personal choice: I like to have full control of everything myself and often automated things often don't work the way I want them or expect them to work. I had to delete some pics from Google cloud, because I was running out of allocated space and since at some point I had 3 or maybe even 4 devices linked to the same account, some stuff was duplicated. Didn't expect deleting one set would delete second as well. I'm sure there are simple rules you need to follow and it should work fine. But I don't want to bother. I think you copy folder manually to SD card and after activating, google linked backed up folder from cloud as well, but I'm guessing here. That's why I would check on the computer and see what folders are actually there, I've seen folders or even whole cards showing as duplicate, when they weren't.
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I was hoping their was something that could scan my SD card when used in the PC to show me of duplicate files and thus allowing me to delete duplicates.
I've got duplicates for sure on that SD card, but they are scattered in various folders and sub folders.
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In the past I used portable application called CloneSpy (portable applications don't have to be installed, you can run it from memory stick, or just copy folder to hard drive, click on .exe file to run, just delete folder after you done, since there is no installer, you won't have your google search changed to something else etc.), but I'm sure there are many more, probably more capable programs. You can choose to search for duplicate name, exactly same size or both etc. Just make sure you scan it with antivirus (I never had a problem, but you never know) and should be self explanatory, there is also help file and probably test run it on some less important data first.
Also, you could simply back up your SD to computer and just let the Android clean it up, just like it shows on the screen, but either cancel sync with Google, or at least go airplane mode, since I'm not sure how would deleting double files affect google back up and vice versa, but at least you would have back up on your computer.
http://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?q=clonespy&m=
Cheers, yes those folders with photos and music etc are not synched with Google. The only folders I generally have synching when WiFi is on are the pictures and download folders via Google photos only. So essence the photo folder is soley used for when I take an image with the device.
I'll take a look into duplicate file scanning apps.
Cheers.
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I get a few duplicates also. Except mine is not showing like yours. My duplicates are in hidden folders within the folders of the original pics in folders called .hidenCustom. I just ignored it but I did wonder why it was only for a few of my pics & not many more.
I just checked again right now & I do have just one pic that is a duplicate showing in the same folder with the same file name.
I'm curious now. The next time I backup my SD card on the computer I'm going to try deleting to duplicates through the phone to see what happens.
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I get a few duplicates also. Except mine is not showing like yours. My duplicates are in hidden folders within the folders of the original pics in folders called .hidenCustom. I just ignored it but I did wonder why it was only for a few of my pics & not many more.
I just checked again right now & I do have just one pic that is a duplicate showing in the same folder with the same file name.
I'm curious now. The next time I backup my SD card on the computer I'm going to try deleting to duplicates through the phone to see what happens.
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Recommend any apps that can scan folders and subfolders for duplicate files ? Cheers
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Recommend any apps that can scan folders and subfolders for duplicate files ? Cheers
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No not really. I used use a sync program when I would make backups from my computer to an external HDD. It somewhat did that.
A Windows program like that would be handy though. I know they exist, just don't know which ones are good.
I tried and I recommend you for this issue DuplicateFilesDelete, Please try.
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I tried and I recommend you for this issue DuplicateFilesDelete, Please try.
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Is this Android app or windows?
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Is this Android app or windows?
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There's a bunch of apps like this on play store.
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I already do a factory data for like five times for each week since i bought this phone, the other on storage keeps filing up and i cant find the reasons why, i disabled auto update for system apps and software update as well as on playstore. But still keeps increasing day by day. Any solutions?
Question firmware version used...and phone model
Under developer mode..enable "CPU usage"
See..what app is busy doing stuff
or
install Catlog from f-droid see what's running and see error log
or
Run the antivirus app? or update firmware to latest ?
just..some thoughts
interesting issue..
Its a xiaomi redmi 9 global version 4/64 running the lates miui 12.0.3
Im sorry.im new to this but i cant find cpu usage on developers option. I also installed catlog but i dont know how to use it.and which anti virus are you refering to?also I already installed the latest firmware
Update
perhaps:
Google play/installed apps/review free space
or
DiskUsage | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
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or
Storage Analyzer & Disk Usage – Apps on Google Play
Deep scanning device storage analyzer and disk cleaner in your hands
play.google.com
Still cant detect anything with that. It only tells me how much storage i use but only shows the same data i can see on my file managaer
File manager
internal storage
show hidden files
miui
gallery
cloud
trashbin
delete all the files inside the trashbin.
hope it will help you.
I have the same problem, i tried factory reset how many times, hard reset 2x, the problem still exist. Waiting for firmware update but it takes time and the storage is full again while waiting. Any suggestions friends?
I wonder if the app MIUIREX can help. Any idea who already used this app??
Hi all,
my two cents here. It seems that somehow when info is deleted ends in a kind of partition that the cell can't reach or show. I've tried all the storage cleaning apps I could find to no avail.
When plugging to a PC it doesn't show the big files either. In fact, when you look at it as a drive connected to PC it seems to be full; however if you select the contents there's little occupation.
I've also promoted to miui 12 but the issue persists. I've noticed as well that it takes longer to fill when there's no SIM card inserted. It takes a couple of days instead of hours to fill the Other Files storage.
My only other option now is to try and root it with Magisk and try a custom ROM, but never done that before and I don't want to brick it if there's any other option.
PS - there are some other entries for this same problem in mi.com and other pages for this and other xiaomi models and all of them seem to be unfixed, so I wonder if it could be a HW problem instead.
I've had a bit of a time trifling with this device, it's a great bit of kit and a sweet deal. I had the same/similar issue and found that the MIUI local backups never expired. I found a long list of historic backups in the MIUI settings, you can delete them there or just delete MIUI>backups in File Manager. Then perhaps turn off local backups.
Hopefully this is the same for you, holla back.
Thanks for the hint, but no luck either. There's nothing, even toggling on the "hidden files" option, that takes a big amount of space in my device.
Probably the matter is exactly that; the device is not deleting backups but the real issue seems to be that I'm not able to locate them (probably not even see them).
Same problem here; different phone (Note 10) but same problem with MIUI12. Other files category increases by about 2GB/day, even while hardly using the phone. This issue has been reported all over the web, but Xiaomi seems reluctant to admit they have such a basic file operation issue:
Other Files Under Storage Space Keeps Increasing After MIUI 12 Update
To access other files under storage space, head over to settings>>my device>>storage. Compare your details with the pictures above and see if you're also affected.
adimorahblog.com
https://c.mi.com/thread-3370135-1-0.html?t=1602138830713
Invalid - "Other files" filling up my phone very rapidly
In the past 2 months or so I have had this issues where the 64G of my xiaomi mi 8 is being bloated by "other files". They appear predominantly when I delete large video files, so I strongly suspect there is a problem in the MIUI 12 with deleting files properly. At some point my phone becomes 99%...
xiaomi.eu
"Other" storage problem
I already do a factory data for like five times for each week since i bought this phone, the other on storage keeps filing up and i cant find the reasons why, i disabled auto update for system apps and software update as well as on playstore. But...
forum.xda-developers.com
https://www.la-besace.fr/4rtyys/fc237e-miui-12-bug
https://c.mi.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3678151&page=1&extra=#pid19385517
Hi there. I have the same issue since last month. I bought the phone last year on May and the problem just came last month. The "Other Files" increased by 3 - 4 GB per day without any reasons. After doing factory reset, my phone memory got full after 1 week (64GB). I went to Xiaomi Service Center. They format the memory and install older version of the OS. However, it didn't help. My phone memory got full after 2 weeks. I went back to the service center, and they had no idea too. Then they replaced the motherboard. Technically speaking, my phone is new, with the new IMEI number. But surprisingly, my memory got full again after 2 weeks! Fortunately, my phone is still under warranty. I insist to get new phone but the procedure is not that easy. I'm requested to go back to service center next week. Hopefully there will be a good news.
Thanks @pangayoman please let us know how you go!
Factory reset seems the only solution here too (Note 10 lite) but over time the other files still increase. Strangely enough all the cleaning and storage analyzer tools don't see the other files at all and can't remove any of it....
Did anyone try a custom rom, like crDroid? That may rule out hardware issues....
I haven't tried a custom ROM yet, as I never did it before, but I think it's time to try it now. Otherwise I have a brick as I can't use the apps I need even if I spend more time installing than using them.
Can someone help me?? Like CCleaner shows that my apps occupied 3+gb,but system shows that my apps occupied 8gb...how can I get access to system storage (apps & apps data)?? (like I can't even click it and find out what takes so much memory)
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Can someone help me?? Like CCleaner shows that my apps occupied 3+gb,but system shows that my apps occupied 8gb...how can I get access to system storage (apps & apps data)?? (like I can't even click it and find out what takes so much memory)
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I have my system in a different language, so the translation might be inaccurate, but it should be something like this: settings--> about my phone --> tap on storage --> Tap on Apps & Data. That should do the trick. The problem discussed here is slightly different, though.
Install 12.0.3 indonesia stable . xiaomi solve this problem in this rom