Has anyone tried both on the N7? If so, which one did you like better?
I actually bought GrooveIP and then got it as a FAOTD on Amazon...its not bad overall. However, Talkatone let's you text as well...but then you have to deal with ads. Since I don't text much and I have Google Voice anyway, I'm sticking with GrooveIP. I see enough ads in the Android world.
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I actually bought GrooveIP and then got it as a FAOTD on Amazon...its not bad overall. However, Talkatone let's you text as well...but then you have to deal with ads. Since I don't text much and I have Google Voice anyway, I'm sticking with GrooveIP. I see enough ads in the Android world.
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The voice quality is similar for both?
In my brief test, yes. I didn't notice much difference, but I only made one call with Talkatone to the same person. Regular use might be a different story though.
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I use talkatone works great with google voice
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Tried Groove IP and the person on the other end was hearing a mean echo of their own voice. I tried tweaking different settings but nothing worked. Guess I'll give Talkatone a try.
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Tried Groove IP and the person on the other end was hearing a mean echo of their own voice. I tried tweaking different settings but nothing worked. Guess I'll give Talkatone a try.
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I use GrooVe IP on my N7, enabled the basic echo canceler and that worked for me.
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I use GrooVe IP on my N7, enabled the basic echo canceler and that worked for me.
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Did you get some error about GrooVe IP not being able to find the "tail" or something like that when enabling the echo cancel?
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Did you get some error about GrooVe IP not being able to find the "tail" or something like that when enabling the echo cancel?
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Mine said something like detected echo tail 360 when I hung up.
use headphones to eliminate echo
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Echo is a result of feedback from speaker back into microphone. Try turning on echo canceller, lower microphone gain or use headset.
echo
I had an echo problem with GrooveIP on voice calls (one one end only). In addition GrooveIP incoming calls work
only one way (caller can hear but receiver cannot.)
Tried Talkatone and no echo plus send/received voice calls worked fine.
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Tried Groove IP and the person on the other end was hearing a mean echo of their own voice. I tried tweaking different settings but nothing worked. Guess I'll give Talkatone a try.
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Echo is a result of feedback from speaker back into microphone. Try turning on echo canceller, lower microphone gain or use headset.
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I tried the echo canceler but it didn't work. Tried lowering the microphone gain and the person on the other end said she could barely hear me.
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I tried the echo canceler but it didn't work. Tried lowering the microphone gain and the person on the other end said she could barely hear me.
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Hi,
If you have trouble with GrooVe IP, please feel free to email us at [email protected]. We'd be happy to help. I would suggest leaving the mic gain at the default level, try reducing the speaker volume first with the physical volume buttons on your device. Make sure the screen is on when you use the volume buttons. Also which echo canceler did you use? I'd recommend using the basic echo canceler.
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I had an echo problem with GrooveIP on voice calls (one one end only). In addition GrooveIP incoming calls work
only one way (caller can hear but receiver cannot.)
Tried Talkatone and no echo plus send/received voice calls worked fine.
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Hi,
I'd recommend doing a clean install of the app. Uninstall the app, restart the device, then download and install the app. Try turning on the basic echo canceler for any echo problems. Also make sure you have the latest version of the app. 1.2.24 for the paid version or 1.0.6 for the free. Jelly bean added a few VoIP focused api's that we integrated with in the latest version.
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Hi,
If you have trouble with GrooVe IP, please feel free to email us at [email protected]. We'd be happy to help. I would suggest leaving the mic gain at the default level, try reducing the speaker volume first with the physical volume buttons on your device. Make sure the screen is on when you use the volume buttons. Also which echo canceler did you use? I'd recommend using the basic echo canceler.
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Hi,
I'd recommend doing a clean install of the app. Uninstall the app, restart the device, then download and install the app. Try turning on the basic echo canceler for any echo problems. Also make sure you have the latest version of the app. 1.2.24 for the paid version or 1.0.6 for the free. Jelly bean added a few VoIP focused api's that we integrated with in the latest version.
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Thanks! Will do.
My experience (about a month ) --
GrooVe IP - delay, echo
Talkatone - no delay or echo , like the integrated text feature
For me, Talkatone has the edge at this point.
since I use my phone to tether on the go, in the car I use Tablet Talk and a Motorola Roadster. tablet talk lets me remote control my phone to send and receive texts through my cell phone and remote dialing and answer calls. There is no audio used on the tablet itself with Tablet Talk so when in the car, the phone is paired to a bluetooth speakerphone so I don't have to touch my phone at all in the car for anything.
Tablet Talk on Google Play
I personally prefer grooveip. I can do without the gtalk integration of talkatone, maybe I didn't set it up correctly. Also I noticed that talkatone didn't alert me of an incoming call when my screen was off, again maybe a setup issue. Talkatone was nice because I could set myself away on gtalk for free. Otherwis grooveip does everything I need it to do, handle calls.
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Has anyone noticed a delay in your voice output when using bluetooth in Groove IP? The people on the other end are receiving my responses slightly after I say it. It's annoying because I'm interrupting the normal rhythm of a conversation.
Talkatone is the best better quality and texting. But groove IP has more options.
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Hello.,
i just got my new xoom, and asking about the best voip phone that will work with a bluetooth headset on the xoom
gjoesco when
I'm looking for the same thing - none of the available seems to have a nice interface for the xoom's large screen. (and lots dosent even work at all)
Actually i dont really get it - android's had SIP (internet call'ing) since 2.3 or so - why did they remove it from honeycomb and even ice cream sandwich just because its a tablet?
Have anyone tried a Cyanogenmod 9 - and verified if its removed from their builds too?
Have you tried csipsimple or groove IP. I haven't attempted to use them with Bluetooth but they both work well for me and I know groove ip has some options for Bluetooth and tablet audio. Csipsimple is free and has a good selection of codecs.
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Have you tried csipsimple or groove IP. I haven't attempted to use them with Bluetooth but they both work well for me and I know groove ip has some options for Bluetooth and tablet audio. Csipsimple is free and has a good selection of codecs.
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I use GrooveIP with Google voice and it works great haven't tried it with bt headset but why not?
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Have you tried csipsimple or groove IP. I haven't attempted to use them with Bluetooth but they both work well for me and I know groove ip has some options for Bluetooth and tablet audio. Csipsimple is free and has a good selection of codecs.
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I've tried csipsimple - not sure if its the xoom or my sip provider but i cant make any calls with it. (It does say Registered, and recieving calls works okay - but cant make any)
Grooveip - i thought it was only for google voice? is it posible to enter other sip server/user/pass?
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I've tried csipsimple - not sure if its the xoom or my sip provider but i cant make any calls with it. (It does say Registered, and recieving calls works okay - but cant make any)
Grooveip - i thought it was only for google voice? is it posible to enter other sip server/user/pass?
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Groove ip is for Google voice. I will try csipsimple again and test outgoing calls on my end. I have Sipgate.
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I use GrooveIP with Google voice and it works great haven't tried it with bt headset but why not?
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I've tried to use my bt headset and Wi-Fi together.. but my Wi-Fi keeps disconnecting with my bt on..and going into data mode....I only have groove IP lite
So I can't use it with 4g
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Hi everyone.
First post but long time reader.
I have an un-rooted Vivid I updated the other day through the phone dial trick. Everything went fine with the update except all my previous apps appeared except for the voice dialer. I had a shortcut set on one of the screens and the label showed up with the little android guy as the image. When I clicked on it the message said the app is no longer associated. Sure enough I went through all the apps and it was not there.
I tried to install the apk and checked off the box to allow installation of unknown apps. It appeared it was working then I got a message during the install that the it did not install. I tried a few times just to be sure.
I also noticed that I am not able to use my bluetooth ear piece to accept a call or voice dial.
Does anyone have the voice dial app working or was it left out of the update? I tried the google voice app and that doesn't work with bluetooth.
I have a message to HTC regarding this as well. If there is no solution here, I will post what they plan to do if anything.
Edit 4/2/12 see the posts on pages 3&4 for a Voice dialer that works pretty good so far in ICS. There may be others that work just as well but I'm tired of trying to find them. Until (doubtful) google or HTC fixes this issue I'll stick with I have now.
I don't have a solution, but I have the same problem.
My Blueant Q2 headset has a command to activate the phone's voice command. The phone said my phone doesn't support that feature.
That's unfortunate because I use it all the time.
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Over 170 views and only one response.
Does everyone else have the voice dialer like we had in GB? If so can you post the apk?
Using bluetooth without it is very difficult to say the least. It's even more distracting than just picking up the phone and talking except that's not an option in many area I travel through.
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Over 170 views and only one response.
Does everyone else have the voice dialer like we had in GB? If so can you post the apk?
Using bluetooth without it is very difficult to say the least. It's even more distracting than just picking up the phone and talking except that's not an option in many area I travel through.
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Few to try - this was an issue with the Inspire at times too. This is an older apk and probably won't work, but backup and try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005228
Some suggestions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1314862
Also an app in the market called Hands-free voice dial that might work
After reading your post I tried messing with the voice dialer to see if I could help. It turns out it's not even installed on my phone and its not on the market. Voice actions are supposedly alot better and I wonder if the dialer was done away with in favor of voice actions. One problem with this is on my headset it now does nothing but beep at me when I hit the call button where as it brought up the dialer before. Also I held down search and tried to voice dial through voice actions and it couldn't pick up my voice through the headset. Right after I was messing with it I got a call and the caller could here me fine through my headset. So I dunno what the deal is. Oversight maybe? I'm fine with voice actions replacing the dialer but not if my button on my headset does nothing and i can't use my headset to use it.
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Okay, so it was a fluke, voice actions picks up my voice now. However, my call button still doesn't activate it. I have to unlock the phone and hold down search to activate it. I can make calls through it fine however so i think that is the solution. I believe the lack of support of a voice dialer button on a headset is most likely an oversight. Sucks but I hope this at lead helps you out for now.
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Okat HTC got back to me and here is their response. It fixed part of the issue but still no voice dialer app. I can now answer an incoming call by pushing the button on the earpiece. So far only half a fix. I'll try to find a decent dialer on the market. The google one sucks.
I can certainly help you with Bluetooth functionality on your HTC Vivid. I essentially want to clear some Bluetooth data from your phone and then see if the issue continues. First let's navigate to home>menu>settings>Bluetooth. Tap on the settings icon to the right of your Bluetooth device's name and let's select unpair.
Now let's return to settings and tap on Apps, then All. Please tap on Bluetooth share and select clear data and confirm. If your Bluetooth headset has an option to clear its partnerships, please do that as well.
We need to restart the phone. To do this let's just hold down power and select restart. When the phone boots back up are you able to pair with and properly use your Bluetooth headset?
yeah I can answer calls, and if I hold it down, it'll redial the last caller in my call log. But yeah if i just hit the button, it makes a beep and does nothing. I actually primarily use my headset for music playback, its a motorola SD-9 stereo bluetooth headset, but it works for calls too. I had to re pair it after the ICS update.
Ours do the same thing. Thanks for confirming I'm not nuts. I hope they didn't rush the update through just to be first with the update to ICS.
I have an older Moto HS850. I'm searching for a decent visor set since I now wear hearing aids. It's a bit tough to hear with the BT earpiece as it is since I have to have an aid out. Until I can get a decent voice dialer app I'll hold off on blowing money for a half assed solution.
Hope HTC comes through and develops a dialer for ICS. At least you'd know it'll be functional. So far I've tried three apps off the market and none have worked for what I need.
I guess I can always switch my phone out with my daughter if I really need to. I told her not to update yet since I was willing to be the guinea pig. She never uses her voice dialer. I would feel like taking a step back but GB was not bad at all.
I agree, gingerbread was great, I was hesistant to update but figured might as well. Hopefully HTC issues a fix for this problem quickly.
Cor-master said:
...Voice actions are supposedly alot better and I wonder if the dialer was done away with in favor of voice actions. One problem with this is on my headset it now does nothing but beep
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I tried holding down the Search to activate Voice Actions. The Vivid seemed to use my Blueant Q2 mic. However, Voice Actions definitely doesn't work as well as the Voice Dialer for dialing contacts.
I'll be monitoring this thread for solutions.
I found a solution that isn't completely eligant buy works.
I downloaded Vlingo and setup the un-car option to auto listen for commands. Don't leave Vlingo in-car on fulltime else it will drain your battery.
However, when I signal phone commands from my header, it fires up Vlingo. Set it to default to in-car Vlingo. From the you can say "Hey Vlingo..." and speak your command. My Blueant Q2 headset still says "Feature not available" but it works.
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willgill said:
I found a solution that isn't completely eligant buy works.
I downloaded Vlingo and setup the un-car option to auto listen for commands. Don't leave Vlingo in-car on fulltime else it will drain your battery.
However, when I signal phone commands from my header, it fires up Vlingo. Set it to default to in-car Vlingo. From the you can say "Hey Vlingo..." and speak your command. My Blueant Q2 headset still says "Feature not available" but it works.
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Vlingo virtual assistant is the best.
Thanks fro the recommendation for vlingo. I haven't tried that one yet. Seems cummbersome to use. The voice dialer app was so easy to use. Everything else so far takes too many steps.
I'm checking out the new Motorola Roadster2. There is a Moto app that is made to use for it. So far all the reviews I read did not say anything about it working with ICS or not working. Most of the gripes were from Iphone users. I may hold off a little while until such reviews start coming in.
The Voice Dialer app we had in GB was an Android app built into GB. I had a version from 2.3.4 on my retired Sony phone that I bluetoothed over to my Vivid. It installed but would not work prpoperly. I tried disabling the voice thingy from ICS and it still didn't work. When I had the GB VD installed ICS was sluggish so I removed it.
Here is the latest response from HTC:
We apologize that you are unable to use the handsfree dialing over Bluetooth. Unfortunately, the Voice Dialer app was removed with the Ice Cream Sandwich update. There is no information available as to when or if this will be added again on the device as it was a change made by Google.
This might fix it,
I took the Bluetooth.apk from a Cyanogenmod and it got my wiimote to connect (see my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1560647) it should lift any nasty restrictions that HTC's bluetooth version has put on anything.
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This might fix it,
I took the Bluetooth.apk from a Cyanogenmod and it got my wiimote to connect (see my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1560647) it should lift any nasty restrictions that HTC's bluetooth version has put on anything.
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My issue isn't being able to pair my device it has to do with an app that Android left out of ICS that worked so well in GB.
Thanks for the info though. What can you do with the Vivid when it's paired with a wiimote?
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Thanks fro the recommendation for vlingo. I haven't tried that one yet. Seems cummbersome to use. The voice dialer app was so easy to use. Everything else so far takes too many steps.
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I understand vivid x2. I had used Vlingo before but then switched to the native Voice Dialer for the simplicity.
My problem with most 3rd party voice dialers is the only recognize and expect first names. With over 600 contacts, that won't work for me. Vlingo and Voice Dialer did use first and last names.
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Im having another bluetooth related issue. I primarily use my headset for listening to music. Since the ics update my music will go into random skipping sessions. It's not related to 4g or wifi as I mowed my lawn using a regular set of headphones and didn't have any issues. There is almost a pattern to the skipping actually. If kill pandora or Google Music and restart it'll fix the issue for a little bit but it'll start up again eventually. No issues before the update.
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Bluetooth Hands-Free Dialing Broken
After reading this thread, I tested my bluetooth hands-free connection in my car. It's BROKEN. My Vivid will connect to the car's audio system via BT, but it will not recognize my voice requests to call a number. It was working last week before I did the ICS "upgrade."
I expected something to not work, but I didn't expect something as critical as a safety feature. I use the hands-free dialing for obvious safety reasons. I have a feeling that HTC is catching heck about this one. They are about to catch some more from me.
I hope this isn't a case of "you got your update now shutup". Hopefully they'll release an update for bluetooth and voice dialing
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I noticed the P6810 has a mic and speaker like a phone does. Anyone know a way to make phone call with it over wi-fi for free? I guess what I am asking is if anyone knows a VOIP app that is free and does not charge for minutes...
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I noticed the P6810 has a mic and speaker like a phone does. Anyone know a way to make phone call with it over wi-fi for free? I guess what I am asking is if anyone knows a VOIP app that is free and does not charge for minutes...
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Haven't tried Skype?
The new update from Skype yesterday did wonders for this device IMO. It doesn't have the best front camera but again, it worked very well and there weren't any issues during the call.
viber is very good
After playing around, I settled on Google Voice with Groove IP. Flawless, free phone calls over Wi-Fi.
The best one is talkatone!
$7 to remove ads then $20 a year....
What fearures does it have over grooveip?
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Viber
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What about enabling SIP accounts? That'd be a perfect fit IMO.
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Well?
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I am using Groove IP Lite (free one from the Play Store) with Google Voice. It works beautifully, you can use the ear piece speaker in portrait mode or change the speaker to the stereo speakers near the 30 pin charging port. So you can use it like a regular cell phone or a speaker phone. You must get a Google Voice number to make and receive calls otherwise Google Voice will use a generic number to make outgoing calls but you cannot receive calls without getting a Google Voice number. Make sure your Google Voice Settings under Phone are forwarded to Google Chat to be able to receive incoming calls.
This makes the 6810 (WiFi only) work like cell phone as long as you have a WiFi connection, and it's FREE for calls in the U.S.
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I am using Groove IP Lite (free one from the Play Store) with Google Voice. It works beautifully, you can use the ear piece speaker in portrait mode or change the speaker to the stereo speakers near the 30 pin charging port. So you can use it like a regular cell phone or a speaker phone. You must get a Google Voice number to make and receive calls otherwise Google Voice will use a generic number to make outgoing calls but you cannot receive calls without getting a Google Voice number. Make sure your Google Voice Settings under Phone are forwarded to Google Chat to be able to receive incoming calls.
This makes the 6810 (WiFi only) work like cell phone as long as you have a WiFi connection, and it's FREE for calls in the U.S.
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My previous phone was a Nexus S and I often used to dictate text messages (my phone typing is excrutiatingly slooow) and 95% of the time I didn't have to edit any of the text.
Just tried dictating a text on my XZ and the text is repeatedly misquoted, every time, barely one word in a sentence of a dozen is correct, is this because of poor microphone pickup?
I've tried various distances between my mouth and phone, speaking faster or slower, just can't get it to work
Anyone else experience this? Any suggestions?
p.s. everything else about the phone is tickety boo
Amazed this post had so many views but no comments, similar or polar
Just for the record, I turned off the microphone noise suppression and the prob seems to be cured
( I dictated this post ) but stranger is that I restored the Mic noise suppression and the voice recognition still works cleanly
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I have a complaint regarding microphone quality as well. Coming from the iPhone I commonly would send short audio clips to people, mostly via whatapp. I produce house music so occasionally I'd send little blurbs of my music, etc. Now I wouldn't ever expect the audio that was recorded to sound amazing but the iPhone would do the job and do it well. Audio was actually very clear and crisp.
I just tried this for the first time with my new Sony Xperia Z and I gotta say the quality of the recorded audio is so terrible, some clips you can't even decipher what you are listening to! Even my voice when sending verbal messages, the quality is horrendous.
Has anyone else experienced this? If not could some of you give it a try and listen to your own recordings and report back here. I'm curious if it's a Sony Z issue or just specifically my phone.
I'd appreciate it.
PS - having said all that, using the voice function on the keyboard to dictate text for typing or for use with online searches, Maluuba app for calendar reminders, etc all work great with no problems and excellent understanding of what I am speaking.
I dictate entire emails using voice recognition. Works brilliantly.
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Thanks but doesn't really help, as stated in my post, voice to text works great. The problem is using the microphone for recording/playback.
What app are you using to record audio?
There's a few on the play store that allow you to change gain levels that might help.
Anyone tried using a wired Mic yet?
There's some code about it in the kernel but it's not clear code, and I can't work out whether it's just for the online Mic on a headset or a standalone Mic.
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Been experiencing the bad quality when using both the built in audio recorder (one you get when selecting the multi task window and get the quick access apps) and WhatsApp.
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What app are you using to record audio?
There's a few on the play store that allow you to change gain levels that might help.
Anyone tried using a wired Mic yet?
There's some code about it in the kernel but it's not clear code, and I can't work out whether it's just for the online Mic on a headset or a standalone Mic.
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And just to add, on the other hand when recording video, the audio is crystal clear.
FAIL
I can't even use this phone because of this. Skyping is impossible. SCREW YOU SONY SCREW YOU!
I looked around for an answer, but can't seem to find one. Whenever i make or answer a call with my watch connected, it defaults to the speaker and mic on my watch, which can sometimes get annoying. Any way to make it so that if i initiate the call, or answer the call using my phone, it uses my phone's audio without having to switch it? I'm wondering if tasker or something can do this, override the default device to phone if the answer action or call action was initiated from the phone.
Thanks
If you are using gear manager, it should default to whichever device is initiating the call
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If you are using gear manager, it should default to whichever device is initiating the call
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I am, but i'm using it on a Nexus 4 and i had a lot of trouble getting it running. I might try a different version i guess. Good to know that's how its meant to behave.
Thanks a lot for the reply
I don't think Tasker can control the default there, but it can help some. Using Tasker with Bluetooth AutoConnect, I can enable/disable the phone handling part of the Bluetooth connection. If I am at home, or connected to my car's built in Bluetooth, I don't want to talk to my watch, so I disable then. When I'm out walking around, I'm more likely to want to answer with the watch, so I enable then. When its disabled, I use a custom Tasker scene to do caller id as well as answer and hangup buttons on the watch.
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I don't think Tasker can control the default there, but it can help some. Using Tasker with Bluetooth AutoConnect, I can enable/disable the phone handling part of the Bluetooth connection. If I am at home, or connected to my car's built in Bluetooth, I don't want to talk to my watch, so I disable then. When I'm out walking around, I'm more likely to want to answer with the watch, so I enable then. When its disabled, I use a custom Tasker scene to do caller id as well as answer and hangup buttons on the watch.
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That sounds really interesting and like a good solution, would mind going into a bit more detail on how you did it? I'm not very familiar with tasker.
Thanks!