Modifying N7 camera angle - Nexus 7 General

I've found Skype to be a bit awkward on my N7 because the camera is angled at 90degrees from the frame, rather than sloping towards the center of the screen. As a result I have to hold the tablet further away from me, but then I sometimes struggle to hear the audio from the back-facing speaker.
Has anyone else found this? Or, has anyone here heard of other devices where the camera angle has been modified, and how?
Thoughts?

Tilt the tablet slightly
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Pretty sure anything involving tilting the camera would be more trouble than its worth, you may be able to stick a small refractive lens to the front of it but not sure if anyone makes one.

MikeMurphy said:
I've found Skype to be a bit awkward on my N7 because the camera is angled at 90degrees from the frame, rather than sloping towards the center of the screen. As a result I have to hold the tablet further away from me, but then I sometimes struggle to hear the audio from the back-facing speaker.
Has anyone else found this? Or, has anyone here heard of other devices where the camera angle has been modified, and how?
Thoughts?
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Get a case. The speaker is designed to bounce sound if there's a surface behind it (try putting the tablet flat on a table). Or just hold it such that your hand cups the speaker and redirects sound at your face.

davidcampbell said:
Pretty sure anything involving tilting the camera would be more trouble than its worth, you may be able to stick a small refractive lens to the front of it but not sure if anyone makes one.
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Thanks. I might take my N7 apart and possibly wedge something behind the camera depending on how its secured. A small adjustment to the angle would go a long way.
Will let you know if I am able to make any good progress on this.

uberNoobZA said:
Tilt the tablet slightly
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Thanks for contributing. Unfortunately, I'm at a loss for words that might help you understand what the problem is.
You might want to sit this one out.

MikeMurphy said:
Thanks for contributing. Unfortunately, I'm at a loss for words that might help you understand what the problem is.
You might want to sit this one out.
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He's obviously saying that tilting the tablet up a bit is a lot easier than screwing up something trying to modify the camera. I suggest looking long and hard at tear-downs before you attempt anything.

MikeMurphy said:
Thanks for contributing. Unfortunately, I'm at a loss for words that might help you understand what the problem is.
You might want to sit this one out.
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I know exactly what the problem is. And my suggestion is that the easiest way to fix it is to simply tilt the tablet to aim the camera where you want to aim it. Sorted.

uberNoobZA said:
I know exactly what the problem is. And my suggestion is that the easiest way to fix it is to simply tilt the tablet to aim the camera where you want to aim it. Sorted.
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I wrote that having the camera at a 90 degree angle to the frame makes for awkward Skype conversations.
Now this next part is critical as to why your suggestion doesn't address anything: If I tilt the frame, the camera is still at 90 degrees to the frame. If you don't believe me, try it.
I haven't pulled my N7 apart to do anything other than loosen and tighten the screws. Looking through the bezel at the camera I see what appears to be some space between the camera and the bezel. This might not actually be the case, but it looks like it is. If the camera is anything like the camera built into my S2 it can be slightly angled with some gentle coaxing. Given the narrow angle of the camera optics I don't believe the edge of the bezel would interfere by blocking part of the camera's image, either.
Perhaps a good place to start is the ifixit tear-downs per suggestion above. Thanks!
Cheers,

Had a look through ifixit, see step 13 on the below link.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-7-Teardown/9623/2
Unfortunately, the connector appears to be on the wrong axis for easy bending / tilting. It would have to be twisted which doesn't work well.

MikeMurphy said:
Had a look through ifixit, see step 13 on the below link.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-7-Teardown/9623/2
Unfortunately, the connector appears to be on the wrong axis for easy bending / tilting. It would have to be twisted which doesn't work well.
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Actually in that teardown, it appears to be attached via a really short ribbon that might flex a little...
So it may be possible, with the right application of something really thin at the front of the camera on the inside edge, and something at the back behind the camera on the outside edge might be enough to tilt it slightly for your purposes, something thin like a tiny slit of paper, or a tiny bit of sticker you could cut from a bumper sticker maybe.

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Kaiser gap between housing

hi
I have a little problem. My kaiser just came back from service after a month, because of the broken screen.
I have noticed that the gap between the casing. Let me illustrate on a picture, the gap is in red color
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff67/dpleja/htc-kaiser.jpg
ok, if i push the far left end of my kaiser, the gap is about 2mm
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff67/dpleja/DSC04640.jpg
i thing that this gap was smaller before...how big is it on your kaiser?
Woah. That looks messy (I'm sorry to say!)...
The gap on mine is pretty equal along its length (maybe slightly wider (almost immeasurably so) toward the 'bottom') - but I'd say it's less than a millimetre all the way down its length.
...Certainly A LOT more flush than in your pic.
If you need me to I'll post a pic for you to use as ammunition when you kick ass about it...
Regards,
Rob.
mine is equal also along it's length, but because of the angle it doesn't look like that. Its 2mm across the whole phone. I still think its too much
Definitely something wrong there
Nono01 said:
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff67/dpleja/DSC04640.jpg
i thing that this gap was smaller before...how big is it on your kaiser?
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There's definitely something wrong there. Mine is even all the way along and is about 0.6 mm. I'd be getting back in touch with the repairer/possibly the courier who delivered it back if there's any chance the damage happened in transit. They may claim additional parts are required (at more $$$/£££) to fix it though
Nono01 said:
hi
I have a little problem. My kaiser just came back from service after a month, because of the broken screen.
I have noticed that the gap between the casing. Let me illustrate on a picture, the gap is in red color
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff67/dpleja/htc-kaiser.jpg
ok, if i push the far left end of my kaiser, the gap is about 2mm
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff67/dpleja/DSC04640.jpg
i thing that this gap was smaller before...how big is it on your kaiser?
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Looks like when they were working on your phone, they either bent the rails or the mounting bracket that slides on the rails.
i have just made a video of the problem
check it here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBpwdBD8gng
How do you plan to progress this?
Nono01 said:
i have just made a video of the problem
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I believe you, I believe you! What more do you need to know, there's a problem with the phone if the gap is wildly uneven when sitting flat with no pressure on the device. What are the repairers saying and what are you going to do about it?
i have returned the phone, wee will see what the service guy will do with it.

Macro Lense Attachment

Hey guys, i was wondeiring if you any of you would know if this
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.14953 would fit on the HD2? it looks really nice and i would like a macro lense for it, please get back to me thanks
All I can really say is "Wow". That's kinda crazy. I mean if it was detachable then that would be one thing but it looks like it takes the place of the standard bezel and uses the sticky tape to attach. No more putting the phone in your pocket or hip case at this point.
dharvey4651 said:
All I can really say is "Wow". That's kinda crazy. I mean if it was detachable then that would be one thing but it looks like it takes the place of the standard bezel and uses the sticky tape to attach. No more putting the phone in your pocket or hip case at this point.
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uhhm it is detachable! lol its connected using MAGNET or its magnetic i just want to knwo if it would fit for the HD2.
Macro lens provides better pictures for close up shots right?
Does this count? Lawl. It's a weird thing that I've obtained either from a broken microscope or something or from some camera. I found it laying around the house so I can't really remember where I got it from. All I know, this baby + any camera = excellent shots. The second picture is a close up of the cloth it was originally sitting on.
PoisonWolf said:
Macro lens provides better pictures for close up shots right?
Does this count? Lawl. It's a weird thing that I've obtained either from a broken microscope or something or from some camera. I found it laying around the house so I can't really remember where I got it from. All I know, this baby + any camera = excellent shots. The second picture is a close up of the cloth it was originally sitting on.
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yeah that is correct, but im just curious about if that thing would fit on the back of a HD2 lol i know it fits on the evo4g just not sure about the HD2.
I remember seeing an article (possibly on Engadget) about one of these for the HTC Evo and I wondered if there was one for the HD2 at the time... I can't answer your question but I will be following your thread.
NeoGreendawg said:
I remember seeing an article (possibly on Engadget) about one of these for the HTC Evo and I wondered if there was one for the HD2 at the time... I can't answer your question but I will be following your thread.
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Yeh! thats exactly where i read it and i wondered the same thing! and then i thought maybe XDA would have the answers for me! haha
2 poisonwolf:
I bought a cheap kids 99p telescope and did get some magnification with it but not as much as yours, well done
I put mine on the back of my n95 but had to zoom in to the maximum to prevent the 'black tunnel' as seen in poisonwolf's second picture.
If you were to buy one, i'd make sure it fits properly so no extra zoom in is required.
Can't you just buy a something like a case mate and stick the lens on the cover?
http://www.case-mate.com/HTC-HD2-Cases/Case-Mate-HTC-HD2-Barely-There-Cases.asp
Paten said:
Can't you just buy a something like a case mate and stick the lens on the cover?
http://www.case-mate.com/HTC-HD2-Cases/Case-Mate-HTC-HD2-Barely-There-Cases.asp
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yeah you could, but an extra layer could mean the magnet isnt as strong for it to stick. so i want to check if it were possible to fit on HD2 with out.
I've looked aound quite a bit for this but so far no go. The HD2 lens protection is moulded like a square blob. I doubt we can find anything that is manufatured with a square base.
leepriestenator said:
I've looked aound quite a bit for this but so far no go. The HD2 lens protection is moulded like a square blob. I doubt we can find anything that is manufatured with a square base.
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but if you think about it. the camera is all round. just the outside is square, but therefore it is connected via magnet so i think regardless of square of cirle?
Anybody seen this?
I found this while browsing on ebay...
http://cgi.ebay.com/6X-ZOOM-CAMERA-TELESCOPE-CASE-COVER-HTC-HD2-T8585-/300398113592?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item45f11f7338
However it says it does not fit US version ...
Whats the diffrence for the US version?
that's the questioni had too, since my understanding was there's no difference except memory. but who knows, I'm not the expert. maybe someone shed light on this matter for us.
malkrae said:
Whats the diffrence for the US version?
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its bigger by just a little bit

Screen Clicks

Is anyone else having this problem:
I noticed that if I press down on the middle left side of the screen in portrait mode (the very edge of the screen) that I hear a "click" sound, almost like it's loose underneath. The rest of the screen doesn't click, only this part. I've read other reports about people having issues with the screen coming up, and was concerned. Nothing looks loose, and everything feels solid, but again, slightly concerned.
There's another thread going on about this very thing: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774438
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Not really. I mean yes at first I had to press down REAL hard and it was a very minute one, but not terrible. Now it's not doing it anymore so it just may have been a placebo effect for me.
Is it very noticeable on yours? I only noticed it when I depressed quite hard in the exact middle left of the border (not the screen).
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dzap said:
Not really. I mean yes at first I had to press down REAL hard and it was a very minute one, but not terrible. Now it's not doing it anymore so it just may have been a placebo effect for me.
Is it very noticeable on yours? I only noticed it when I depressed quite hard in the exact middle left of the border (not the screen).
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Sup dzap! :highfive:
Not too noticeable. I hear the click mostly when I left my finger off the side. Almost like something is coming up. On visual inspection, everything "looks" ok.
huge issue on this build, adhesive releases the glass and thus the sound you feel hear. charge it up, N7 will heat up and this sound will become less pronounced becasue glue will soften and then when it cools off the clicking sound will be back. They must be saving on the glue to get it under $199
phonic said:
Sup dzap! :highfive:
Not too noticeable. I hear the click mostly when I left my finger off the side. Almost like something is coming up. On visual inspection, everything "looks" ok.
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dvzzz said:
huge issue on this build, adhesive releases the glass and thus the sound you feel hear. charge it up, N7 will heat up and this sound will become less pronounced becasue glue will soften and then when it cools off the clicking sound will be back. They must be saving on the glue to get it under $199
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Thanks for the info. If all it ends up being is a slight noise every so often, I can live with that. If the screen starts falling apart - that's a different story. I didn't even notice it until I started looking for problems .
I had the same problem on my 5th GNex. I exchanged it for another one. It depends how much it bothers you I guess.
dvzzz said:
huge issue on this build, adhesive releases the glass and thus the sound you feel hear. charge it up, N7 will heat up and this sound will become less pronounced becasue glue will soften and then when it cools off the clicking sound will be back. They must be saving on the glue to get it under $199
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I had this problem and am in middle of getting a replacement unit. However, I am hesitant of the adhesive/heat theory going around, partly from others' reports of clicks, although I heard none (but I didn't push as hard as some) and partly as the ifixit teardown didn't mention adhesive other than partially securing the battery to the frame--and, adhesive is something they always like to mention. Moreover, the pics they show suggest a mixture of clips and screws securing things internally. I suppose I am suggesting we try to not take things for granted
kboya said:
I had this problem and am in middle of getting a replacement unit. However, I am hesitant of the adhesive/heat theory going around, partly from others' reports of clicks, although I heard none (but I didn't push as hard as some) and partly as the ifixit teardown didn't mention adhesive other than partially securing the battery to the frame--and, adhesive is something they always like to mention. Moreover, the pics they show suggest a mixture of clips and screws securing things internally. I suppose I am suggesting we try to not take things for granted
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I've been hearing the same. It sounds like people are assuming it's adhesive when it's really some sort of retainer clip that locks the device in place. I can't really comment one way or another, but based on what I've been hearing from user reports, I'd bet my car it's clips... not adhesive. But hey, I may be wrong and riding my bike to work tomorrow.
You are right, I should not be making definitive statements, I checked iFixit and I do not see a glue there but at the min my screen issues have something to do with heat and expansion, once the device on charge or in my hand for extended period of time the left side separates and rises .5-1mm above the bezel, I press it in and then it "sticks" for another hour or so. I am perhaps incorrectly assumed an adhesive but it must be a weak clip that cannot hold the glass once body expands... At the end of the day, my goal was to keep this little powerhouse N7 but hate to press that glass in all the time until I break it. I am sure they will eventually fix it in the new builds 3-6 months from now but all I was saying that many many folks are reporting separating bezel issue, it must be more than a coincidence.Returned to Sam's club it but there is no replacement for it for another 30 days or so coming to Sam's Club and by then there can be competitors coming, e.g. nanoiPad. Even though I really liked the Android N7 too bad Asus QA is not in the big league, but you cannot have everything at $199 or $260, quality costs money, I know Motorola overengineered Xoom to stand up on quality and it did.
kboya said:
I had this problem and am in middle of getting a replacement unit. However, I am hesitant of the adhesive/heat theory going around, partly from others' reports of clicks, although I heard none (but I didn't push as hard as some) and partly as the ifixit teardown didn't mention adhesive other than partially securing the battery to the frame--and, adhesive is something they always like to mention. Moreover, the pics they show suggest a mixture of clips and screws securing things internally. I suppose I am suggesting we try to not take things for granted
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Front Camera Alignment

Anyone's front facing camera seem like it's out of perfect alignment or is this normal? It's not just a shadow I'm sure if it. http://imgur.com/oYVflP2
Mine is perfectly aligned, so I guess it is not normal. I suppose the front camera does work, and it is only a design issue.
BrandonPrice31 said:
Anyone's front facing camera seem like it's out of perfect alignment or is this normal? It's not just a shadow I'm sure if it. http://imgur.com/oYVflP2
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Does it work?
As long as the lens isn't covered, it should be 100% functional. it's held by sticky tape, if it really bothers you, you can unclip the back and move it into alignment. But if its functional and lens isn't blocked, I wouldn't worry about it.
Mine looks similar to yours. Doesn't affect the pictures, so I don't care.
It works perfectly. Just aesthetically it bothers me.
n19htmare said:
Does it work?
As long as the lens isn't covered, it should be 100% functional. it's held by sticky tape, if it really bothers you, you can unclip the back and move it into alignment. But if its functional and lens isn't blocked, I wouldn't worry about it.
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n19htmare said:
Does it work?
As long as the lens isn't covered, it should be 100% functional. it's held by sticky tape [...]
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Jesus, they really like their double sided sticky tape over there at LG... Isn't the vibrator held with sticky tape too?
Actually mine is a little like yours too. Guessing its "normal"? Unless im looking for it I dont see it.
Mine isnt completely center, so i'm chalking this one up to normal/within spec.
Perfectly centered here and I'm ocd
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Not centered on mine. Damn you for pointing it out to be.
Does anyone else find the angle of the camera to be a bit odd? When looking at it, in Portrait mode, like for a Hangout .. The angle towards you seems to be slightly "off" - anyone else?
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are u really trying to find small things to complain about this phone and post it on here?
Mines a tiny bit off like yours but photos come out fine so I don't care. Not going to replace something that's a non-issue for a potential real issue.
cyburke said:
Not centered on mine. Damn you for pointing it out to be.
Does anyone else find the angle of the camera to be a bit odd? When looking at it, in Portrait mode, like for a Hangout .. The angle towards you seems to be slightly "off" - anyone else?
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I don't complain much, but I'm with you on this one... Sadly, its just something I've come to expect on smartphones now days. I never understood why everybody puts the front facing camera off-center. WHY put it on the right or left side of the phone (when holding in portrait). Placing the camera off center like that makes using the front cam for video chats annoying, because when our holding the phone in perfect alignment to see the screen, the camera isn't center on you, so you have to move the phone so that the camera will be center on you and then the screen is not. Why can't they just place the camera at the top center of the device, above or below the speaker? Or at least a lot closer to center.
bluegizmo83 said:
I don't complain much, but I'm with you on this one... Sadly, its just something I've come to expect on smartphones now days. I never understood why everybody puts the front facing camera off-center. WHY put it on the right or left side of the phone (when holding in portrait). Placing the camera off center like that makes using the front cam for video chats annoying, because when our holding the phone in perfect alignment to see the screen, the camera isn't center on you, so you have to move the phone so that the camera will be center on you and then the screen is not. Why can't they just place the camera at the top center of the device, above or below the speaker? Or at least a lot closer to center.
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I'm sorry but I just don't see it. Because of the distance and degree of movement required (if any at all) it's really NOT an issue if the camera is off-set and not in the center of the phone.
Case in point, I just tried it. When looking straight at the headset grill and point that towards me, I'm dead center of the screen. The camera itself already takes into the account of the left offset in portrait mode.
Did you try it?
Most if not all who test this right now on the phone will see they are well centered when viewing the screen straight on...
That's why a lot of phones still off-set the camera to right or the left because it's a NON ISSUE
n19htmare said:
I'm sorry but I just don't see it. Because of the distance and degree of movement required (if any at all) it's really NOT an issue if the camera is off-set and not in the center of the phone.
Case in point, I just tried it. When looking straight at the headset grill and point that towards me, I'm dead center of the screen. The camera itself already takes into the account of the left offset in portrait mode.
Did you try it?
Most if not all who test this right now on the phone will see they are well centered when viewing the screen straight on...
That's why a lot of phones still off-set the camera to right or the left because it's a NON ISSUE
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Haven't tried it on the Nexus 5 yet (it's "Out For Delivery" so it should be delivered any moment now), but on my HTC One if I did exactly as you described by holding the phone directly in front of my face looking straight at the headset grill, my face was not centered on the screen image. I had to line my face up perfectly center with the camera lens for it to show my face centered on the screen. This was with the phone held in one hand at a comfortable distance for video chat.
Mine is off center as well. First thing I noticed when I got the phone. It seems to be working fine so I won't RMA it but it does bug the crap out of me when I look at it.
Looks center to me
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mine is off center too- to the bottom right. doesn't effect pictures.

Is there a covering of some kind over the microphone, out of the box?

This is maybe a weird question, but... I've been having some microphone problems - people can't hear me, etc. Seems not uncommon for this phone.
In looking at the microphones (front and back), it looks like there is some kind of coating or covering over them - instead of just a black hole into the phone, there's... well, I don't know, something else on top. To the naked eye it almost seems to match the color of the phone, but the hole is super tiny, and the color of the blue/silvery one is not particularly distinct.
Can anyone else see something similar on their X4? I'm trying to see if it's something that is supposed to be there (like part of the waterproofing or something), or if it's pocket gunk and I can try to clear it out. I'd appreciate any confirmation either way...
dmahon said:
This is maybe a weird question, but... I've been having some microphone problems - people can't hear me, etc. Seems not uncommon for this phone.
In looking at the microphones (front and back), it looks like there is some kind of coating or covering over them - instead of just a black hole into the phone, there's... well, I don't know, something else on top. To the naked eye it almost seems to match the color of the phone, but the hole is super tiny, and the color of the blue/silvery one is not particularly distinct.
Can anyone else see something similar on their X4? I'm trying to see if it's something that is supposed to be there (like part of the waterproofing or something), or if it's pocket gunk and I can try to clear it out. I'd appreciate any confirmation either way...
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Yep. Similar issue here. Sometimes on a call the other end just can't hear me. It seems hit or miss but happens every once in a while.
I've RMA the phone even but it just seems like a bug particular to this model.
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Is that "cover" you are seeing kpart of the ip 68 waterproofing?
Hotrodanimal said:
Is that "cover" you are seeing kpart of the ip 68 waterproofing?
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That's exactly what I'm trying to figure out - I don't want to remove something that's part of the phone, but I don't have another phone to compare it to, to see if it's supposed to be there. I also don't want to RMA the phone only to find out that I had pocket lint packed in the microphone.
I just bought an x4 last Friday, as far as i can tell there does seem to be what appears like some sort of cloth inside that little tiny mic hole. However i am blind in one eye and cant see out ta other. even with the three different magnifying glasses i have at my disposal. and the camera on my wife's g5+ Might I suggest looking closely at an image of the screen glue/gasket available from Ifixit who is officially working with Motorola these days
edit: also i have noticed in the short time i have had with this device, there is definitely a good and bad way of holding it as a headset, while on speaker phone it dont seem to matter, you may want to experiment a bit with how you are using /holding it. .........taken out of context that last bit sound dirty or is it just me?
Great advice on the fixit. I found a video that shows the screen being replaced and they stick a covering over the mic hole (though no comments about what it is), and the ifixit site has a good image of the part with the original cover. Looks like it's a call to moto... Thanks for the help!
dmahon said:
Great advice on the fixit. I found a video that shows the screen being replaced and they stick a covering over the mic hole (though no comments about what it is), and the ifixit site has a good image of the part with the original cover. Looks like it's a call to moto... Thanks for the help!
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No problem, Glad i could help

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