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Vote on Rootzwiki to help get CM7 to bionic

VOTE AGAIN ROUND TWO!
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?7634-Round-2-Battle-for-the-Bionic-Dev-Giveaway
Vote for RevNumbers
He did a great job on Droid 2 and it would be great to have him with cvpcs working on the bionic

Been using CM7 for awhile on Fascinate and Droid, I am still hmm not quiet sure I want to put CM on Bionic...soo much bugs, so unstable..eheheh

Bump! The race is close, single digits close! Help Rev over the top!

BUMP FOR ROUND two

Why the heck not, I love CM7, BUMP
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For anyone who wants CM7 on their bionic, I highly recommend going the extra mile to register with the site, if you are not already, because if the CM7 team has the bionic, it can finnaly be developed for
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CVPCS already has a bionic, and has been working on it since about launch day. He had it booted in about a day.
This phone will get CM7 no matter who you vote for. If I were you guys, I would vote for a non CM7 person (like Nitro or Liquid) so we can get some variety.
Just my 2 cents...
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mistawolfe said:
CVPCS already has a bionic, and has been working on it since about launch day. He had it booted in about a day.
This phone will get CM7 no matter who you vote for. If I were you guys, I would vote for a non CM7 person (like Nitro or Liquid) so we can get some variety.
Just my 2 cents...
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Those guys are already out of the running. There was a tie between Rev and Framework earlier today and there's now a 1v1 vote up to be the tie breaker.

And then along came Debbie Downer:
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Ok, I see lots of "cm7 ftw" type comments. I thought my post in the other thread would be enough, but maybe it should be said again.
AOSP/MIUI will not come to this phone anytime in the foreseeable future. Let me break it down like this.
Remember on the Evo back before shinzul and toast got wimax working? We are kinda in the same position again. Here we are, faced with devices that contain a totally new form of data. One that isn't available in the aosp repos. One that we have no reference code for. One that the code is different for on each lte device.
Your first question is probably, "Well they did it on the Thunderbolt, why not the Bionic?" Fair question, and seeing as we got aosp and lte on that device witgout the help of cm, I think I'm in a position to answer it. The thunderbolt runs a qualcomm chip, unlike the charge and the bionic. Qulacomm has this nifty little site called Code Aurora Forums. CAF is where all the lte code came from. Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but neither slayher nor xoomdev wrote 99% of the lte code. The difficult part with the bolt was making it all work with our existing rom code.
This code WILL NOT work on non qualcomm devices, I would hope that goes without saying.
So where's that leave us you ask? SOL. Or **** out of luck for those of you who don't know l33t sp3ak.
Remember my comment about wimax and team w1n? Those guys literally wrote the wimax code FROM SCRATCH. And it took FOREVER. The evo just got wimax on aosp months ago, and how long was the device out for?
What's this all actually mean you ask? It means don't expect with one of these guys to bring miui or cm7 or anything non blur based to this device. Not that I think either of these guys arent amazing devs, they both are. No disrespect to either one, but I think even they would agree that they aren't up to the challange of writing lte literally from nothing.
Also, one more thing on the wimax-evo/lte-bionic comparison. Yea, before the evo got wimax, it still had 3g and was a perfectly functional Rom. In this case its going to be a little different.
DISCLAIMER
The follow statements are the only thing in this post I ccannot 100% back up. I'm 99% of their correctness, but could be wrong.
With my experience with lte, its all or nothing. You don't get working 3g and no 4g. You get it all or you get basically an ipodtouch. Nothing but wifi.
Now, someone did mention that the bionic has seperate radios, unlike the bolt. They used this as an argument that 3g can be fixed before 4g is made to work. My argument against that is to look at the current cm7 build for the bionic. No data. No 3g. Data is RARELY an obstacle for aosp on devices. Usually only when something weird is going on, like what Samsung does, or where lte is involved.
Again, I could be wrong. But I doubt it.
Tldr : Quit expecting aosp on this device. And if you ***** out whoever wins for not getting aosp booted, I will personally print out this post, find you and shove it down your throat.
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The only reason it hurts so much is because it's likely 100% true :'(

Why would I want anyone wasting their time on CM7 for Bionic? I know that it's fun to get hold of lots of new ROMs and spend all your free time every evening trying new ones, but it's going to take a while and in the meantime, there's this Ice Cream Sandwich thing (anybody else heard of it) that's coming out.
Love the CM offerings; CM7 was fun on my Eris... but would be as enticing as Eclair with modded Sense on my Bionic! Anybody have a good reason to pursue this further aside from new toys???

The more the merrier?
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And then along came Debbie Downer:
The only reason it hurts so much is because it's likely 100% true :'(
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All he's really saying is don't be a c*nt if one or the other comes out with nothing immediately. Understand what's what going in, etc.

idefiler6 said:
All he's really saying is don't be a c*nt if one or the other comes out with nothing immediately. Understand what's what going in, etc.
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Its a new technology naturally it will take longer to figure out ^_^

Should I get a Thrill?

I currently have an HTC HD7S but being a tech head, I'm getting bored.
Is it worth getting the Thrill or is its already dead in the custom rom area?

Not dead, but calm. In actuality, though, there's been a jumpstart in posting the last couple days and a few have been promising to me. Additionally, GB is now scheduled to be released the 27th for the optimus 3d which should give the thrill a custom gb rom in days by that point. I'm days away from my trade deadline, but I'm staying pretty devoted to the phone I've decided I love. Now if only we could get a stock browser without this damn toolbar at the bottom...
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lastdeadmouse said:
Now if only we could get a stock browser without this damn toolbar at the bottom...
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Just go into browser settings the very first thing is weather you want the browser toolbar on the bottom
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I just picked mine up last Friday. I'm coming off an Atrix, and so far I'm not looking back.
The screen is fantastic, the phone is smooth, and it doesn't seem to have some of the issues the Attic suffers from.
It was between this and the Galaxy S II, and I wanted the HDMI. Also, the Thrill felt better.
Besides gimmick or not, the 3D is cool.
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Thanks for the opinions. A family member of my has it and I've had the pleasure of using it. But I'm pretty much set on getting it.
Also, I was reading yesterday the ICS source code is released. Any devs interested in that?
EDIT: Honeycomb is available as well

I was going to say I don't know if I had an upgrade right now if it would be the phone I'd pick. I'd more than likely get a Note. But I've come to really like this phone and wouldn't trade it unless a Thrill with a 4.5 inch screen, 16 gig storage, and ICS came out.
Of course, then it'd still be a Thrill

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Just go into browser settings the very first thing is weather you want the browser toolbar on the bottom
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I don't see that option at all.

i too don't see that option on my thrill, and I also hate that stupid toolbar on the bottom

xScope.
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Hmmmm...I downloaded xScope pro when it was the Amazon free app of the day. But I have yet to use it as my browser. Guess it's time to give it a shot.

IMO, I wouldn't waste my time on the Thrill. I stuck it out for a while thinking that LG actually gave a crap about us, just to be let down. They have committed to a Gingerbread release on the 21st to the International version. No commitment at all to the Thrill other than maybe by the end of December or early January.
With the very slow development going on it, I decided I had enough and jumped to the SGS2 Skyrocket instead. Do I miss the 3D ability?.....Of course. But I gained LTE (when available in my area) and an 8MP camera instead with increased speed over the Thrill and a lot more dev potential (and is going on already).
I would have a hard time now recommending anyone to the Thrill that cares about overall speed and performance, let alone support from the manufacturer. If someone wants 3D and doesn't mind a luke warm device, then the Thrill may suit them fine.
Just my opinion. I had such high hopes for it when I bought it.

CallMeAria said:
xScope.
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Hmmmm...I downloaded xScope pro when it was the Amazon free app of the day. But I have yet to use it as my browser. Guess it's time to give it a shot.
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I have this program but its very slow. Firefox and Dolphin browser is very fast compared to this Xscope Pro.

Gr8Danes said:
IMO, I wouldn't waste my time on the Thrill. I stuck it out for a while thinking that LG actually gave a crap about us, just to be let down. They have committed to a Gingerbread release on the 21st to the International version. No commitment at all to the Thrill other than maybe by the end of December or early January.
With the very slow development going on it, I decided I had enough and jumped to the SGS2 Skyrocket instead. Do I miss the 3D ability?.....Of course. But I gained LTE (when available in my area) and an 8MP camera instead with increased speed over the Thrill and a lot more dev potential (and is going on already).
I would have a hard time now recommending anyone to the Thrill that cares about overall speed and performance, let alone support from the manufacturer. If someone wants 3D and doesn't mind a luke warm device, then the Thrill may suit them fine.
Just my opinion. I had such high hopes for it when I bought it.
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Seriously, some people forget it's a phone. Without fast development, it's still a damn good one for now, and with development, it'll be amazing in the future. How many MP my camera is, I couldn't care less. It's more about the size of the cmos sensor than the resolution, and the only phone I'll trade for when it's available, nexus of course, will have one nice 5mp cam. Samsung let me down for way too long with my craptivate, so I can wait a bit for GB again. As for the O3D version, that'll be close enough. Oh, by the time LTE reaches my house (and most), I'm sure I'll be eligable for another upgrade. Loving this phone, despite my few hates.
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Ask yourself this question: Do I want ROM selection? The answer to the title of this thread is the opposite of your answer to that question.
If you don't flash ROMs, the Thrill is better than the Atrix or Atrix 2, its definately the best phone in the <$99 price range. But for a little more the GS II (i777 not skyrocket, the skyrocket will be only slightly less of a ghost town than here) is teasing you with so many ROM choices it will burn a hole in your SD card.
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The funny thing is Ive got all the bugs worked out of my Thrill. The thing has ZERO issues for me. I cant think of a single reason not to recommend the Thrill. I could care less about a selection of Roms. Most are just re-themes of the same..exact..thing. All I need is one solid rom and Im golden. That was the thing I LOVED about my Aria. For the longest time there were only 2-3 roms available for it but they were all rock solid and offered everything you could get out of a rom. We had ONE kernel available to us, but it worked flawlessly, so we didnt need anymore kernels. Move along to the Captivate and while I had 200,000 roms to choose from none of them felt finished, half of them were the same rom I had just flashed with a different battery icon, and they all had issues. Even CM7 for the Captivate never felt as solid as it did on my Aria. I never ended up being happy with my Captivate even though it was the "superior "phone to my Aria.
The Thrill is a solid phone. It had a lot of issues upon release and a LOT of people didnt stick around because of that. Gingerbread is here, and from what ive been hearing its already made the Thrill into even more of a beast and its only a pre-release leak (unfortunately I dont have a Windows machine so I cant flash the baseband to even try it ). And with the ICS source released we will have ICS fairly quickly. Gingerbread was a tough port due to ZERO Omap4 devices running it (it wasnt just the Thrill) so we had to try to start from scratch, but the first ICS device has almost the exact CPU (higher clockspeed and better imaging capabilities) and the GPU IS the same. That alone will kickstart development of ICS as we can port ICS rather than try to build it from scratch.
But enough of my ranting Im going to sleep!

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I don't see that option at all.
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What version of the browser are you using I have 2.3.5 and its there for me but I use opera mobile as my default browser anyway cuz I like all my webpages to be in desktop mode by default, and opera is super fast.
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2.2.2
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CallMeAria said:
The funny thing is Ive got all the bugs worked out of my Thrill. The thing has ZERO issues for me. I cant think of a single reason not to recommend the Thrill. I could care less about a selection of Roms. Most are just re-themes of the same..exact..thing. All I need is one solid rom and Im golden. That was the thing I LOVED about my Aria. For the longest time there were only 2-3 roms available for it but they were all rock solid and offered everything you could get out of a rom. We had ONE kernel available to us, but it worked flawlessly, so we didnt need anymore kernels. Move along to the Captivate and while I had 200,000 roms to choose from none of them felt finished, half of them were the same rom I had just flashed with a different battery icon, and they all had issues. Even CM7 for the Captivate never felt as solid as it did on my Aria. I never ended up being happy with my Captivate even though it was the "superior "phone to my Aria.
The Thrill is a solid phone. It had a lot of issues upon release and a LOT of people didnt stick around because of that. Gingerbread is here, and from what ive been hearing its already made the Thrill into even more of a beast and its only a pre-release leak (unfortunately I dont have a Windows machine so I cant flash the baseband to even try it ). And with the ICS source released we will have ICS fairly quickly. Gingerbread was a tough port due to ZERO Omap4 devices running it (it wasnt just the Thrill) so we had to try to start from scratch, but the first ICS device has almost the exact CPU (higher clockspeed and better imaging capabilities) and the GPU IS the same. That alone will kickstart development of ICS as we can port ICS rather than try to build it from scratch.
But enough of my ranting Im going to sleep!
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I hope so. It's such a great device. It sucks some good phones are left out. I used to have a backflip, so I remember the pain of not having a good, stable rom.
Just like you though, I have faith someone with jump into the phone.

AeRo0 said:
What version of the browser are you using I have 2.3.5 and its there for me but I use opera mobile as my default browser anyway cuz I like all my webpages to be in desktop mode by default, and opera is super fast.
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Please, if you have other concerns, make your own thread, don't use mine.

KayxGee1 said:
Please, if you have other concerns, make your own thread, don't use mine.
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O noooo its about to be a cat fight ( Raaaaawwwwrrrrr ) lmao

What's a good ROM to go with

Okay so looking at the roms usually I'd use cyanogen on a phone but idk if 3d works on it and well no point in a 3d phone with no 3d now I noticed a few stock roms and read someplace the optimus 3d and thrill at the same similar situation to the optimus v and the optimus s can I flash a optimus 3d ROM with no out of the ordinary worries
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Well. Frankly that's a question everyone asks at some point. I did it a few times myself. Also why your not getting a flood of replies. There is no correct answer here. The rom you choose should be based on some criteria. My personal criteria is as follows.
1. Battery life: The rom should never suck the battery dry. Keep in mind its dependant in you following the directions on the rom and how you use your phone. I like to see atleast a full day of stock battery life with moderate use.
2. Stability: Tricky to gage. Must follow the Dev's directions to the letter. Test apps in batches and make sure its not the app causing the issue before passing judgment. Also seek help from the Dev.
3. Speed: Not to important as long as it isn't slower than stock and won't mess with #s 1 and 2.
4. Communication : Wifi, bluetooth, and network signal are paramount for me. My thrill replaced my netbook for al my needs. All this must work flawlessly. Keep in mind there is work to be done on your part. Setting APNs and so on. All listed in most Dev's install instructions.
5. Basband: is it comparable with yours? Do you know what you have? Do you know what you need? Read the rom's requirements carefully.
6. Support: as it turns out Dev support can make or break a rom. Roms can be very needy and time consuming. A Dev takes on a huge burden making then offering support for there rom. Its crucial you become involved to help the Dev out so he can spend more time manufacturing awesome for you. If a Dev has ditched a rom understand you venture in to nomans land.
Seeing as we have no clue what your needs are and what you want in a rom. I suggest you pop over in the Development forum and snoop around. Personally The Dark Lestats Kitchen Rom has more than fit me needs. The tutorials he has made taught me everything I needed to know about how to pull the pants of my LG Thrill and have some fun.

Right then thanks sorry I'm not really a noob just having a little trouble getting acclimated a also my requirements are the same but I must have speed and battery is a must
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And what about 3d on cyanogen
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My apologies. I reread that and it did come across assuming you where new lol my bad.
As far as I'm aware most of the Ginger roms have full features ie: 4G and 3D. I did notice that the baseband plays a big part in how your phone interacts between hardware and rom. Just speculation but seems to be the case.
Last Froyo rom I used was the Doomed froyo. Got all the phone features and exceeded my requirements. For ginger rom I did not try cynogen but I went threw 3 others. Lestats Kitchen rom was the only one I could use to meet and exceed my requirements. Its flexible enough you can drop another kernal that is overclocked. I did notice its not the best on V20P baseband (thanks AT&T bleh) . After I loaded the V21D baseband and APNs my phone suddenly had great battery 2 days moderate use, Bluetooth worked stable and I have not had a single ghost call.
I had to try it a few times though. First reload didn't go well cause I didn't follow the directions. After I followed the each "how to" step by step my phone was cured.
In being fare I would note that the issues were fixed after I made the above changes. I haven't tried the previous roms after the change. Thays why I didn't name them. I can't say they work well or not without proper comparison. I would suggest paying attention to the bugs that appear in multiple roms you try. Might just be the baseband and not the rom.

Lestats it the best there are so many options to go with thrill seeker I think was ditched and Acura team is good
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hey you should try erwinP! cm9 unnoficial rom its seriously awesome, not sure if it has 3d or not but worth havin a look

jeebz420 said:
hey you should try erwinP! cm9 unnoficial rom its seriously awesome, not sure if it has 3d or not but worth havin a look
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And just where did you download this unofficial cm9 rom?
I think he's talking about a rom for LG thrill not wildfire....
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if it's for the thrill then yes cm9 would be worth looking at for me links?
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Insight on the Thrill

hey guys, I was hoping to get some help from some thrill users. I'm hoping I can get a little honesty here, I am doing research for a buddy on the thrill. I have checked out specs, and spec wise seems like a nice device. I just wanted some insight on state of this device, whether its a good purchase or not, i have found some nice deals on this device bare in mind im buying full price so i want to have a device that will have a little bit of longevity. here are some things i hope you guys can share some insight on:
reliability of device, hardware/software
development does it look good will there be ICS i didnt notice ics roms
any alarming things to know about the device before buying
known issues
i ask all this because the G2x for tmobile seems to be a nightmare, hoping this is a better device thanks for any help you guys can provide

I'm pretty happy with my Thrill, but I was disappointed in how long it took to get GB out for it. I'm not sure if we will ever see ICS. The camera is excellent, battery life is ok (I bought a 3500mAh battery and have to charge up nightly). The 3D is kind of a gimmick, but it does work well.
I found that it's much snappier with a custom ROM. I'm currently using Lestatious AcidHazard from the dev forum here. Both ADW and GoLauncher are much better than the default "LG Home" launcher.
Overall, not bad for my first Android phone. I upgraded from an iPhone 3GS and will never look back at Apple, but for my next one I may consider Samsung or HTC just because there seems to be a much larger developer community for their offerings.

Ill give you only my opinion based on my experience with this device. Can't speak for anyone else but I'm sure there might be some very diverse opinions about this device.
I feel the Thrill is the underdog in the current Gen of high powered devices. Kinda like if you perchased a low cost car because the price and function fit your needs. Then you discover it had a turbine engine that simply needed to be switched on and calibrated properly. Would be cool and fun although very unlikely. However the Thrill is often referred to as a sleeper. The hardwear is all there but the stock Rom is restrictive. With some patience and proper modification the Thrill is an awesome phone that can outperform many high priced phones and then some.
In most cases from what I have seen many people find a baseband they like, and a rom that works with the baseband, a few tweeks and bam nirvana. Currently the most common issues that I'm aware of are Ghost calls, Bluetooth instability and minor app bugs. We don't have a huge Dev team but the devs we got are darn good and have flat out showed us all what the Thrill is supposed to be.
If you have loaded any roms or rooted a phone then you will be capable of tweaking the Thrill as you like in about 1 day at the most. Do some further research on it first before you dive in so you are fully aware of what your getting in to.
Hope that helps

Its fast as ****. Its nice to the eyes, it sounds good while making calls for me at least.
What else do you need?
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coming from the HTC sensation the 3d agreed is fun to play with but a gimic super fast and honestly if the right tweeks were given then the phone would be right behind the sgs2 easily if not keep up the LG 3d Max launcher is what I'm using but it is slower easy fix by getting a launcher from the market I recommend Adw or go launcher the dev work is amazing but slow and the optimus 3d is the exact same phone and is on the official list to receive ics according to popular results on Google but looking at things it'll be years end before we see official ics custom ROM will show up first and more than likely soon since the drop for LG phones supposedly is second and 3rd quarter once agin popular Google results reviled this for me over all I do not regret the switch and believe this phone Will peak at ics but will stay alive for probably another year to a year 1/2 stability is decent but be sure to update to gingerbread as the phone really seems to shine afterwards
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Also regular battery on moderate use but with data monitor my battery lasts all day easily
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Thanks for the help guys just got one very fast for 2.2 and ima hopefully get it rooted and running properly for my buddy hope it makes em happy. Your input was greatly appreciated
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While I'm here asking I hate to be such a noob guys but I don't know much about this phone wanna be careful not to brick it. From what I can understand I have to flash the gb update from LG before flashing gb roms correct? All I did was root the phone and installed a 2.2 Rom to get it going however I couldn't get data working its on a prepaid plan for 50 dollars a month everything else seems to be functioning ok. I wanna get all my ducks in a row for tomorrow when I get more time to get him updated to gb. Any roms that are recommended and or kernels. Cm7 or official update what's working better thanks for any help guys I'm not usually such a noob I'm just use to htcs with s off and such or Samsung's and Odin. LG is like a whole nother animal
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Lg update tool worked fine no issues I recommend a stock 2.2 ROM before update then work from there you'll love this phone AFTER you update though to avoid future questions on why you have no signal use an optimus 3d ROM to avoid alot of issues good luck and enjoy
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Franzferdinan51 said:
Lg update tool worked fine no issues I recommend a stock 2.2 ROM before update then work from there you'll love this phone AFTER you update though to avoid future questions on why you have no signal use an optimus 3d ROM to avoid alot of issues good luck and enjoy
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I shall do a bit more reading before I update to gingerbread tomorrow, this phone is actually for my buddy I'm running with an amaze but I'm helping him out so he has a great phone glad to hear its a awesome device once updated.
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I actually love this phone. It is really fast and the battery life is decent. The camera takes awesome pics and videos. About a month ago I was almost fed up with the phone and the dev on it but after flashing the Mokee ROM I fell in love with the Thrill all over again. If I had to choose a phone right I would pry choose the Note over this but then again most people would.

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I'm pretty happy with my Thrill, but I was disappointed in how long it took to get GB out for it. I'm not sure if we will ever see ICS. The camera is excellent, battery life is ok (I bought a 3500mAh battery and have to charge up nightly). The 3D is kind of a gimmick, but it does work well.
I found that it's much snappier with a custom ROM. I'm currently using Lestatious AcidHazard from the dev forum here. Both ADW and GoLauncher are much better than the default "LG Home" launcher.
Overall, not bad for my first Android phone. I upgraded from an iPhone 3GS and will never look back at Apple, but for my next one I may consider Samsung or HTC just because there seems to be a much larger developer community for their offerings.
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Pretty much the same situation for me. Also upgraded from a 3GS and I think this phone is awesome and a great first android for me. For the most stability on gingerbread, in my opinion, would be v21e. I flashed the promethius rom and kernel on top of it and my thrill is amazing.
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Is it me or is it slowing down

I haven't seen much on roms lately. All the one's out here aren't stable either. We only have a couple fully working roms and none of them are being update. If I get a new phone any suggestions on what it should be to take advantage of the most fully functional roms?
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I found Liberty ROM to be quite stable, and while I don't want to jinx it, I've been running Maverick 4.0 for a day or so and it seems great!
If the bootloader ever gets unlocked, it will open up more kernel dev options (for the genius' out there!) which could open up more/better ROM possibilities for us (fingers crossed).
I don't think I'll be upgrading to another phone until a new physical keyboard model comes out. And hopefully it's quad-core with at least a gig of RAM. (512mb on my XT860 has been killing me) ;D

Unfortunately I dont think the kernel will ever be unlocked on our phones... that's Motorola for you.
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But now it's Google...we may get lucky
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Ever since they switched to the nightlies and stopped posting new beta's on here It slowed down, IMO.
I'm happy with Mavrom 4.0 I guess, but would've loved to see hashcode etc. focussing on getting video on ICS, rather than adding features etc. Other ROM makers could've tried that. Who cares about advanced settings when you can't even record a video?

Google is going to probably sell Motorola hardware section to Huawei and keep the core just as legal requirements. Also, they said they are not going to interfere with Motorola decisions on their products. Google only bought Motorola for their parents, nothing more, nothing less.
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Exactly ... but I don't want this to be a Motorola bash... even tho its easy to do... lol... so for now I would like to see a list of roms that are fully functional. I'm on liberty and I keep going back to that just because everything works... what other roms are in this category. And I agree that a extra features aren't important till a fully or close to fully completely working roms is in place. What's the point of all the bells and whistles if you can't even use the basic functions of a phone.. don't get me wrong now. I love trying new roms but it becomes a downer when you get one that has cool extras but you end up going back to a working rom for taking video or watching Netflix .... even if your on safestrap to go back to that functional rom. And the other question is if I change phones what would be a good phone to go to just for rom purposes ...
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The problem iswith the hardware codes and drivers. Every phone probably has this problem with ics. They add more features cause this is almost impossible. The attic has a really good developer support. I would definitely go back yo it if I could but I had nothing but problems with mine. Anyone know how to make a rom? I wanna get into it.
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Atrixn00b said:
The attic has a really good developer support.
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I assume you mean Atrix instead of attic?

The real issue to all of the problems is the bootloader. When you can customize the kernel to fit your rom you pretty much take care of any problems. Not to say there aren't roms with custom kernels that don't have issues .... there are but thats due to other things. Programming or incompatibly issues. All of our roms are franken roms held together by bungee cords and duct tape. The devs do a great job with what they have at hand so when time comes for them to build a rom on a phone with a unlocked bootloader, I don't blame them.. much more freedom and the ability to create awesome roms the way they want. All the stable roms we have are just built around the original with some cleaning up and a splash of color... I wonder what it feels like to know when you pick a rom no matter what it is and you know its going to work and the only reason you don't stick with it is because you don't like the way it looks or it doesn't have a extra you want... how sweet.
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Yeah... it was good when i had my Desire Z. All kinds of roms for that thing!
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