VOTE AGAIN ROUND TWO!
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?7634-Round-2-Battle-for-the-Bionic-Dev-Giveaway
Vote for RevNumbers
He did a great job on Droid 2 and it would be great to have him with cvpcs working on the bionic
Been using CM7 for awhile on Fascinate and Droid, I am still hmm not quiet sure I want to put CM on Bionic...soo much bugs, so unstable..eheheh
Bump! The race is close, single digits close! Help Rev over the top!
BUMP FOR ROUND two
Why the heck not, I love CM7, BUMP
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For anyone who wants CM7 on their bionic, I highly recommend going the extra mile to register with the site, if you are not already, because if the CM7 team has the bionic, it can finnaly be developed for
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CVPCS already has a bionic, and has been working on it since about launch day. He had it booted in about a day.
This phone will get CM7 no matter who you vote for. If I were you guys, I would vote for a non CM7 person (like Nitro or Liquid) so we can get some variety.
Just my 2 cents...
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mistawolfe said:
CVPCS already has a bionic, and has been working on it since about launch day. He had it booted in about a day.
This phone will get CM7 no matter who you vote for. If I were you guys, I would vote for a non CM7 person (like Nitro or Liquid) so we can get some variety.
Just my 2 cents...
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Those guys are already out of the running. There was a tie between Rev and Framework earlier today and there's now a 1v1 vote up to be the tie breaker.
And then along came Debbie Downer:
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Ok, I see lots of "cm7 ftw" type comments. I thought my post in the other thread would be enough, but maybe it should be said again.
AOSP/MIUI will not come to this phone anytime in the foreseeable future. Let me break it down like this.
Remember on the Evo back before shinzul and toast got wimax working? We are kinda in the same position again. Here we are, faced with devices that contain a totally new form of data. One that isn't available in the aosp repos. One that we have no reference code for. One that the code is different for on each lte device.
Your first question is probably, "Well they did it on the Thunderbolt, why not the Bionic?" Fair question, and seeing as we got aosp and lte on that device witgout the help of cm, I think I'm in a position to answer it. The thunderbolt runs a qualcomm chip, unlike the charge and the bionic. Qulacomm has this nifty little site called Code Aurora Forums. CAF is where all the lte code came from. Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but neither slayher nor xoomdev wrote 99% of the lte code. The difficult part with the bolt was making it all work with our existing rom code.
This code WILL NOT work on non qualcomm devices, I would hope that goes without saying.
So where's that leave us you ask? SOL. Or **** out of luck for those of you who don't know l33t sp3ak.
Remember my comment about wimax and team w1n? Those guys literally wrote the wimax code FROM SCRATCH. And it took FOREVER. The evo just got wimax on aosp months ago, and how long was the device out for?
What's this all actually mean you ask? It means don't expect with one of these guys to bring miui or cm7 or anything non blur based to this device. Not that I think either of these guys arent amazing devs, they both are. No disrespect to either one, but I think even they would agree that they aren't up to the challange of writing lte literally from nothing.
Also, one more thing on the wimax-evo/lte-bionic comparison. Yea, before the evo got wimax, it still had 3g and was a perfectly functional Rom. In this case its going to be a little different.
DISCLAIMER
The follow statements are the only thing in this post I ccannot 100% back up. I'm 99% of their correctness, but could be wrong.
With my experience with lte, its all or nothing. You don't get working 3g and no 4g. You get it all or you get basically an ipodtouch. Nothing but wifi.
Now, someone did mention that the bionic has seperate radios, unlike the bolt. They used this as an argument that 3g can be fixed before 4g is made to work. My argument against that is to look at the current cm7 build for the bionic. No data. No 3g. Data is RARELY an obstacle for aosp on devices. Usually only when something weird is going on, like what Samsung does, or where lte is involved.
Again, I could be wrong. But I doubt it.
Tldr : Quit expecting aosp on this device. And if you ***** out whoever wins for not getting aosp booted, I will personally print out this post, find you and shove it down your throat.
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The only reason it hurts so much is because it's likely 100% true :'(
Why would I want anyone wasting their time on CM7 for Bionic? I know that it's fun to get hold of lots of new ROMs and spend all your free time every evening trying new ones, but it's going to take a while and in the meantime, there's this Ice Cream Sandwich thing (anybody else heard of it) that's coming out.
Love the CM offerings; CM7 was fun on my Eris... but would be as enticing as Eclair with modded Sense on my Bionic! Anybody have a good reason to pursue this further aside from new toys???
The more the merrier?
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And then along came Debbie Downer:
The only reason it hurts so much is because it's likely 100% true :'(
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All he's really saying is don't be a c*nt if one or the other comes out with nothing immediately. Understand what's what going in, etc.
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All he's really saying is don't be a c*nt if one or the other comes out with nothing immediately. Understand what's what going in, etc.
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Its a new technology naturally it will take longer to figure out ^_^
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I would like to know one thing.... What devs are moving on to the evo? I can't, mostly due to the fact that I'm a broke-ass son of a *****, and I'm afraid we won't have any good devs left. So.. If you're a dev, are you moving on to the EVO?
So far ive seen more than 6 devs leaving the hero. I guess i should start learning to make roms and themes pretty soon. Funny thing is as ive stated before, the EVO is not the android savior phone and it will have issues at launch. Hell they don't even know if they can root the the thing yet, look at all the trouble our devs are having even cracking the 2.1 release.
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So far ive seen more than 6 devs leaving the hero. I guess i should start learning to make roms and themes pretty soon. Funny thing is as ive stated before, the EVO is not the android savior phone and it will have issues at launch. Hell they don't even know if they can root the the thing yet, look at all the trouble our devs are having even cracking the 2.1 release.
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Good point. By the way, post one more time as a reply to this.... it'll be your 100th post!
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Good point. By the way, post one more time as a reply to this.... it'll be your 100th post!
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I even saw a few EVO's pop up on craigslist for over $700. Talk about trying to rip people off.
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I even saw a few EVO's pop up on craigslist for over $700. Talk about trying to rip people off.
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Wow.. Also, gratz on senior membership
Everyone is caught up on Froyo. I think Regaw, Treve, and me are the only ones collaborating on rooting 2.1
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evo !!!
hero is a great phone but its time to move on
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Everyone is caught up on Froyo. I think Regaw, Treve, and me are the only ones collaborating on rooting 2.1
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Id rather have rooted 2.1 then you guys can concentrate on froyo, not too much can be done anyways without the source code right?
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evo !!!
hero is a great phone but its time to move on
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And how long did you own the hero before you decided that?
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So far ive seen more than 6 devs leaving the hero. I guess i should start learning to make roms and themes pretty soon. Funny thing is as ive stated before, the EVO is not the android savior phone and it will have issues at launch. Hell they don't even know if they can root the the thing yet, look at all the trouble our devs are having even cracking the 2.1 release.
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There's a reason why people are considering it a "savior" type phone... for Sprint especially. Sprint doesn't have any "powerful" or full spec'ed phones like the Nexus one (T-Mobile, GSM carriers), or the Droid (Version). The Moment and Hero are the only two Android phones Sprint has, but they're not fully comparable to the Nexus one or Droid. Adding the Evo to its line up finally gets Sprint in the "Big boy club", now we'll officially have one of the most powerful/full featured/sought after phones in market.
This phone is a savior, not only for Sprint; but for Android all together. Look at all the hype it's getting and for good reason. ****, I don't care what Android phone gets the hype, as long as it takes it away from the ****ting/proprietary Apple products.
P.s. I bet you the Evo is rooted before it's official release; Modaco has rooted a couple of phones already this way. I wouldn't be surprised, especially with a phone like the Evo.
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lol thats crazy, heres to hoping you guys find root.
Good luck
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To be expected?
There's a reason why people are considering it a "savior" type phone... for Sprint/B] especially. Sprint doesn't have any "powerful" or full spec'ed phones like the Nexus one (T-Mobile, GSM carriers), or the Droid (Version). The Moment and Hero are the only two Android phones Sprint has, but there not fully comparable to the Nexus one or Droid. Adding the Evo to its line up finally gets Sprint in the "Big boy club", now we'll officially have one of the most powerful/full featured/sought after phones in market.
This phone is a savior, not only for Sprint; but for Android all together. Look at all the hype it's getting and for good reason. ****, I don't care what Android phone gets the hype, as long as it takes it away from the ****ting/proprietary Apple products.
P.s. I bet you the Evo is rooted before it's official release; Modaco has rooted a couple of phones already this way. I wouldn't be surprised, especially with a phone like the Evo.
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I know it will be rooted in time but it won't be right away and i can just see the endless threads about it.
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And how long did you own the hero before you decided that?
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like EVERY phone i get i know a update is AROUND the corner just like PC parts buy 1 part with in a few weeks/months its dates /shrug .
sad fact the hero -moment will be pushed to the side like most other phones
fact is deal with it and move on or hold on to a dated phone
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like EVERY phone i get i know a update is AROUND the corner just like PC parts buy 1 part with in a few weeks/months its dates /shrug .
sad fact the hero -moment will be pushed to the side like most other phones
fact is deal with it and move on or hold on to a dated phone
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The hero is outdated before it's time IMO but yes i know it's the way things work. It all comes down to who has the extra money to blow.
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Hell they don't even know if they can root the the thing yet, look at all the trouble our devs are having even cracking the 2.1 release.
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The EVO will be rooted, and it will be rooted before June is over. Stop posting it can't be rooted, that's false.
2.1 release isn't being handled like the original Hero release was or how the EVO release will be handled. We already have root status and 2.1 roms, so quite naturally the work on rooting the officially 2.1 is going slow. If somehow we were all magically updated to official 2.1, there would be a lot more progress on the root status of official 2.1 instead of trying to tinker with the 2.2 froyo port.
As for it not being a savior phone? It's the pure specs of the phone that are attracting most of us. 1ghz cpu, 1gb rom, 512mb RAM, not too mention many of it's features... so I fail to see how this is not a better Android/SenseUI capable phone?
Just wanted to point something out... if you click on the numbers in the poll it will tell you who voted and for yes or no.
Same here...there was a guy who listed the evo for $700(he got it from Google l/o)....at Craigslist....big time ripoff.....
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Same here...there was a guy who listed the evo for $700(he got it from Google l/o)....at Craigslist....big time ripoff.....
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Sad part is... Somebody go buy it!! And I'm going to be so jealous because that is an EASY $700 bucks..
I can see him being on a carrier other than Sprint... so he can't use the Evo as a phone.
I was going to pay full price to get the Evo since my upgrade isn't til October but I changed my mind and just going to wait. Good chance another phone will be out around that time that's just as good as the Evo if not better.
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There's a reason why people are considering it a "savior" type phone... for Sprint especially. Sprint doesn't have any "powerful" or full spec'ed phones like the Nexus one (T-Mobile, GSM carriers), or the Droid (Version). The Moment and Hero are the only two Android phones Sprint has, but they're not fully comparable to the Nexus one or Droid. Adding the Evo to its line up finally gets Sprint in the "Big boy club", now we'll officially have one of the most powerful/full featured/sought after phones in market.
This phone is a savior, not only for Sprint; but for Android all together. Look at all the hype it's getting and for good reason. ****, I don't care what Android phone gets the hype, as long as it takes it away from the ****ting/proprietary Apple products.
P.s. I bet you the Evo is rooted before it's official release; Modaco has rooted a couple of phones already this way. I wouldn't be surprised, especially with a phone like the Evo.
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I think if sprint were smart (which appears to not be the case most of the time) then they would have launched the Nexus One AND the EVO. But I guess only having one will force them to give half way decent support to someone instead of crap support to everyone.
Honestly, I'm not sure what all the *****in' for an XT860 forum is all about. Do we really need a lot of space to discuss all the dev that doesn't work on our phones? I'm sure one thread is enough. That way, maybe all the d3 users can get some peace from us constantly asking about compatibility.
Maybe, as a public service, all the d3 devs could stop in here after they've produced the next great ROM, and just let us know (without laughing) that NO, this will NOT work with your phone.
Ah...I feel better now.
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Honestly, I'm not sure what all the *****in' for an XT860 forum is all about. Do we really need a lot of space to discuss all the dev that doesn't work on our phones? I'm sure one thread is enough. That way, maybe all the d3 users can get some peace from us constantly asking about compatibility.
Maybe, as a public service, all the d3 devs could stop in here after they've produced the next great ROM, and just let us know (without laughing) that NO, this will NOT work with your phone.
Ah...I feel better now.
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Venting feels great eh? Haha I'm sorry I cant relate to your problems (XT862 user) But I wish you luck on future ROM's being developed!
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Oh well. The thing is that Bell should just come with an update so devs can start. Wonder if Bell is waiting for ICS to update instead of updating now and then having to update again for ICS???
But yeah where is the freaking update. Maybe some Canadian people know more about it ????
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Venting feels great eh? Haha I'm sorry I cant relate to your problems (XT862 user) But I wish you luck on future ROM's being developed!
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...it just gets frustrating. The D3, if you include the leaked 5.7.894, is now two updates ahead of us...and we're stuck on what...er...windows 3.1?
There's also a level of frustration with myself. After all, with alternate launchers, UOT kitchen, root, debloating, its not like its a bad phone..I guess I just have the patience level of the average 3 year old.
Just to be clear, once we get an update then someone can get an sbf from that? Or am I totally out to lunch...remember, I'm the guy who has a flashing clock on his vcr. VCR....video cassette recorder? Never mind kiddies.
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...it just gets frustrating. The D3, if you include the leaked 5.7.894, is now two updates ahead of us...and we're stuck on what...er...windows 3.1?
There's also a level of frustration with myself. After all, with alternate launchers, UOT kitchen, root, debloating, its not like its a bad phone..I guess I just have the patience level of the average 3 year old.
Just to be clear, once we get an update then someone can get an sbf from that? Or am I totally out to lunch...remember, I'm the guy who has a flashing clock on his vcr. VCR....video cassette recorder? Never mind kiddies.
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It still has some major glitches in my opinion that Motorola should have already fixed for us. I asked bell and was told the updates come from the manufacturer. I'm still waiting to hear back from Motorola, despite the 24 hour for a response auto reply I got. While ROMs would be nice, the cell standby, slow camera and buggy keyboard are all issues that Motorola should have addressed already imho
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It still has some major glitches in my opinion that Motorola should have already fixed for us. I asked bell and was told the updates come from the manufacturer. I'm still waiting to hear back from Motorola, despite the 24 hour for a response auto reply I got. While ROMs would be nice, the cell standby, slow camera and buggy keyboard are all issues that Motorola should have addressed already imho
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Well I once e-mailed motorola canada with questions about the XT860 - haven't heard from them since (it's been weeks). So don't get your hopes up
I completely agree with you Endroid. I am also curious about one other thing... Lets say I wanted my phone in french, how would I be able to convert it over, or vice versa? Maybe we could get an SBF out of it???
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I completely agree with you Endroid. I am also curious about one other thing... Lets say I wanted my phone in french, how would I be able to convert it over, or vice versa? Maybe we could get an SBF out of it???
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Settings>language and keyboard>select locale.
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Weird bug I just noticed... I did that and changed to French, back to English, then to Spanish, then to English and I noticed that my message icon for my Exchange account changed colours...
Yeah my gf has the XT860 and she's not very happy with it. Part of that is because it's more complicated than her 3GS, but part of that is also because there are a number of bugs and it's laggy at times. Tons of bloatware.
At least if we had some way of loading our own ROMs I could fix some of that for her.
I know that my stock AT&T Captivate was a piece of crap. It wasn't until I installed Cyanogen Mod that I had something useful.
I truly apologize for the inconvenience that you are experiencing at this time. What issues are you experiencing with the unit? Unfortunately, there is not an update scheduled to be released at this time and we do not have any information as to when one will become available. You can check our site for future updates. I truly understand your frustration and I apologize again for the inconvenience. If you need further assistance please contact Customer Care at the following number (800) 461-4575. Thank you for your continued patience.
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/CA-EN/Home
Sincerely, Latasha Customer By Web Form (Marc Laferriere) 11/06/2011 07:40 PM I am the owner of a XT860 4G, which i am beginning to regret. The phone has numerous issues and bugs, which i'm sure Motorola is aware of, as pretty much all of these issues were fixed in the recent update to the XT862 (5.6.890). I have previously contacted Morotola about this and was told that there currently is no update and there is no information pertaining to one. Now i see that there is yet another update coming for the XT862(an unofficial leak, however that means that one will be released soon) yet still nothing for the XT860. The lack of support for this device is offensive to me. When i purchase a device i expect that it will be supported for at least a few years. As it stands i would not purchase nor recommend Motorola products. So again i ask, is an update for the XT860 forthcoming, or should i be looking for a device that will actually see some support.
Thanking you in advance Marc
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I just want a fix for the battery life, 12 hours is unacceptable ...
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I just want a fix for the battery life, 12 hours is unacceptable ...
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Hell I don't even get that. Granted I could make some changes to improve my battery life such as turning off background data but then what's the point of having a smartphone. 6-10 depending on my usage
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Great post, Endoroid. As doom and gloom as the lettter appears, its still possible that the letter is simply holding to company policy of not releasing info until its ready to be released. That's what I'm gonna tell myself anyway.
Its been said before somewhere, but I'll re-iterate, never ever buy a country specific phone like this...unless you are happy with the stock experience.
I'm very happy I didn't actually pay for this baby, having won it in one of Mobile Syrups giveaways.
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Endroid,
Can you go to Bell and have them talk to Motorola regarding these issues? Unfortunately I'm not on their service so I don't have as much leverage as someone like you would...
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Hell I don't even get that. Granted I could make some changes to improve my battery life such as turning off background data but then what's the point of having a smartphone. 6-10 depending on my usage
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Wow guys I'm sorry. My droid 3 can get almost 3 days if I use it sparingly.. I wish you guys could use our system updates..
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Endroid,
Can you go to Bell and have them talk to Motorola regarding these issues? Unfortunately I'm not on their service so I don't have as much leverage as someone like you would...
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I'm out of country the next week but when I return I plan on also contacting bell and escalating with Motorola. I have been into a bell store but the sales reps are pretty useless for this.
I mean honestly, given the similarities between the 2 phones I don't understand why we wouldn't receive updates around the same time as d3. It should be easy enough for Motorola to modify the update to apply to our device
Grrrr
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Yeah yeah, Rub it in lol.
Well sad news for the Bell users for sure.
Huh, we don't even recovery to get back to stock if things go wrong.
I heard Motorola issues updates based on phone popularity/user base. If this is true, it will be awhile before we see any updates. XT860 has the same bugs, if not even more like D3 with original release firmware. D3 is now getting second OTA while we have not even heard about first one to address these obvious bugs. If we look back at Milestone 2, to compare to Droid 2 Global which took 8 months to get GB upgrade, M2 has not yet received it.
Things don't look good with XT860 in this aspect for sure.
Lets hope Motorola will prove me wrong!
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I currently have an HTC HD7S but being a tech head, I'm getting bored.
Is it worth getting the Thrill or is its already dead in the custom rom area?
Not dead, but calm. In actuality, though, there's been a jumpstart in posting the last couple days and a few have been promising to me. Additionally, GB is now scheduled to be released the 27th for the optimus 3d which should give the thrill a custom gb rom in days by that point. I'm days away from my trade deadline, but I'm staying pretty devoted to the phone I've decided I love. Now if only we could get a stock browser without this damn toolbar at the bottom...
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Now if only we could get a stock browser without this damn toolbar at the bottom...
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Just go into browser settings the very first thing is weather you want the browser toolbar on the bottom
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I just picked mine up last Friday. I'm coming off an Atrix, and so far I'm not looking back.
The screen is fantastic, the phone is smooth, and it doesn't seem to have some of the issues the Attic suffers from.
It was between this and the Galaxy S II, and I wanted the HDMI. Also, the Thrill felt better.
Besides gimmick or not, the 3D is cool.
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Thanks for the opinions. A family member of my has it and I've had the pleasure of using it. But I'm pretty much set on getting it.
Also, I was reading yesterday the ICS source code is released. Any devs interested in that?
EDIT: Honeycomb is available as well
I was going to say I don't know if I had an upgrade right now if it would be the phone I'd pick. I'd more than likely get a Note. But I've come to really like this phone and wouldn't trade it unless a Thrill with a 4.5 inch screen, 16 gig storage, and ICS came out.
Of course, then it'd still be a Thrill
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Just go into browser settings the very first thing is weather you want the browser toolbar on the bottom
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I don't see that option at all.
i too don't see that option on my thrill, and I also hate that stupid toolbar on the bottom
xScope.
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Hmmmm...I downloaded xScope pro when it was the Amazon free app of the day. But I have yet to use it as my browser. Guess it's time to give it a shot.
IMO, I wouldn't waste my time on the Thrill. I stuck it out for a while thinking that LG actually gave a crap about us, just to be let down. They have committed to a Gingerbread release on the 21st to the International version. No commitment at all to the Thrill other than maybe by the end of December or early January.
With the very slow development going on it, I decided I had enough and jumped to the SGS2 Skyrocket instead. Do I miss the 3D ability?.....Of course. But I gained LTE (when available in my area) and an 8MP camera instead with increased speed over the Thrill and a lot more dev potential (and is going on already).
I would have a hard time now recommending anyone to the Thrill that cares about overall speed and performance, let alone support from the manufacturer. If someone wants 3D and doesn't mind a luke warm device, then the Thrill may suit them fine.
Just my opinion. I had such high hopes for it when I bought it.
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xScope.
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Hmmmm...I downloaded xScope pro when it was the Amazon free app of the day. But I have yet to use it as my browser. Guess it's time to give it a shot.
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I have this program but its very slow. Firefox and Dolphin browser is very fast compared to this Xscope Pro.
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IMO, I wouldn't waste my time on the Thrill. I stuck it out for a while thinking that LG actually gave a crap about us, just to be let down. They have committed to a Gingerbread release on the 21st to the International version. No commitment at all to the Thrill other than maybe by the end of December or early January.
With the very slow development going on it, I decided I had enough and jumped to the SGS2 Skyrocket instead. Do I miss the 3D ability?.....Of course. But I gained LTE (when available in my area) and an 8MP camera instead with increased speed over the Thrill and a lot more dev potential (and is going on already).
I would have a hard time now recommending anyone to the Thrill that cares about overall speed and performance, let alone support from the manufacturer. If someone wants 3D and doesn't mind a luke warm device, then the Thrill may suit them fine.
Just my opinion. I had such high hopes for it when I bought it.
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Seriously, some people forget it's a phone. Without fast development, it's still a damn good one for now, and with development, it'll be amazing in the future. How many MP my camera is, I couldn't care less. It's more about the size of the cmos sensor than the resolution, and the only phone I'll trade for when it's available, nexus of course, will have one nice 5mp cam. Samsung let me down for way too long with my craptivate, so I can wait a bit for GB again. As for the O3D version, that'll be close enough. Oh, by the time LTE reaches my house (and most), I'm sure I'll be eligable for another upgrade. Loving this phone, despite my few hates.
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Ask yourself this question: Do I want ROM selection? The answer to the title of this thread is the opposite of your answer to that question.
If you don't flash ROMs, the Thrill is better than the Atrix or Atrix 2, its definately the best phone in the <$99 price range. But for a little more the GS II (i777 not skyrocket, the skyrocket will be only slightly less of a ghost town than here) is teasing you with so many ROM choices it will burn a hole in your SD card.
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The funny thing is Ive got all the bugs worked out of my Thrill. The thing has ZERO issues for me. I cant think of a single reason not to recommend the Thrill. I could care less about a selection of Roms. Most are just re-themes of the same..exact..thing. All I need is one solid rom and Im golden. That was the thing I LOVED about my Aria. For the longest time there were only 2-3 roms available for it but they were all rock solid and offered everything you could get out of a rom. We had ONE kernel available to us, but it worked flawlessly, so we didnt need anymore kernels. Move along to the Captivate and while I had 200,000 roms to choose from none of them felt finished, half of them were the same rom I had just flashed with a different battery icon, and they all had issues. Even CM7 for the Captivate never felt as solid as it did on my Aria. I never ended up being happy with my Captivate even though it was the "superior "phone to my Aria.
The Thrill is a solid phone. It had a lot of issues upon release and a LOT of people didnt stick around because of that. Gingerbread is here, and from what ive been hearing its already made the Thrill into even more of a beast and its only a pre-release leak (unfortunately I dont have a Windows machine so I cant flash the baseband to even try it ). And with the ICS source released we will have ICS fairly quickly. Gingerbread was a tough port due to ZERO Omap4 devices running it (it wasnt just the Thrill) so we had to try to start from scratch, but the first ICS device has almost the exact CPU (higher clockspeed and better imaging capabilities) and the GPU IS the same. That alone will kickstart development of ICS as we can port ICS rather than try to build it from scratch.
But enough of my ranting Im going to sleep!
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What version of the browser are you using I have 2.3.5 and its there for me but I use opera mobile as my default browser anyway cuz I like all my webpages to be in desktop mode by default, and opera is super fast.
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The funny thing is Ive got all the bugs worked out of my Thrill. The thing has ZERO issues for me. I cant think of a single reason not to recommend the Thrill. I could care less about a selection of Roms. Most are just re-themes of the same..exact..thing. All I need is one solid rom and Im golden. That was the thing I LOVED about my Aria. For the longest time there were only 2-3 roms available for it but they were all rock solid and offered everything you could get out of a rom. We had ONE kernel available to us, but it worked flawlessly, so we didnt need anymore kernels. Move along to the Captivate and while I had 200,000 roms to choose from none of them felt finished, half of them were the same rom I had just flashed with a different battery icon, and they all had issues. Even CM7 for the Captivate never felt as solid as it did on my Aria. I never ended up being happy with my Captivate even though it was the "superior "phone to my Aria.
The Thrill is a solid phone. It had a lot of issues upon release and a LOT of people didnt stick around because of that. Gingerbread is here, and from what ive been hearing its already made the Thrill into even more of a beast and its only a pre-release leak (unfortunately I dont have a Windows machine so I cant flash the baseband to even try it ). And with the ICS source released we will have ICS fairly quickly. Gingerbread was a tough port due to ZERO Omap4 devices running it (it wasnt just the Thrill) so we had to try to start from scratch, but the first ICS device has almost the exact CPU (higher clockspeed and better imaging capabilities) and the GPU IS the same. That alone will kickstart development of ICS as we can port ICS rather than try to build it from scratch.
But enough of my ranting Im going to sleep!
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I hope so. It's such a great device. It sucks some good phones are left out. I used to have a backflip, so I remember the pain of not having a good, stable rom.
Just like you though, I have faith someone with jump into the phone.
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What version of the browser are you using I have 2.3.5 and its there for me but I use opera mobile as my default browser anyway cuz I like all my webpages to be in desktop mode by default, and opera is super fast.
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Please, if you have other concerns, make your own thread, don't use mine.
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Please, if you have other concerns, make your own thread, don't use mine.
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O noooo its about to be a cat fight ( Raaaaawwwwrrrrr ) lmao
I haven't seen any ROM updates or development news in some time. I was planning on getting the Nexus anyways, but I at least wanted the phone to have life after I passed it on.
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I've been waiting and hoping. I like my bionic a lot.
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We have liberty, that's enough for me. Liberty was all I ran (I tried others but always went back) on my Droid X, with my thunderbolt I only ran BAMF roms. I would like to see more customizable options like power control widget in the notification pull down.
Unfoetinitaly I agree. Having had the evo 4G and the thunderbolt, Dev for this phone seems dead.
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I disagree. Liberty was released just a few weeks ago, the the30ry dev has released two new ROMS, one of which was just updated yesterday, and eclipse will have a 5.7.893 update here soon. In addition, there are devs working to get ICS working on the bionic, and a CM7 project (although I don't know if that's in the works any longer as they have announced CM9 for January). I will say that few of these devs seem to be active on XDA any more, they're all on droidforums and rootzwiki. But they're out there.
It sounds more like the OP is abandoning the Bionic, not the devs.
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It sounds more like the OP is abandoning the Bionic, not the devs.
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And I never tried to deny it. However, I'm passing on the phone to my girlfriend, and I didn't want her to be SOL when it came to the best part of owning an Android device.
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I think this is just part of the "downtime" between releases. We have an OTA on the way that may or may not have additional compared to whats leaked so a lot of devs IMO are waiting for that OTA to come out and then will update their Roms accordingly.
In addition a lot of 3rd party Roms use CM as a base so until CM is finished being ported to the Bionic, this front will probably remain dead. Once we see CM7 done and CM9 starting, i think you'll start to see a bunch of new roms pop up.
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I think this is just part of the "downtime" between releases. We have an OTA on the way that may or may not have additional compared to whats leaked so a lot of devs IMO are waiting for that OTA to come out and then will update their Roms accordingly.
In addition a lot of 3rd party Roms use CM as a base so until CM is finished being ported to the Bionic, this front will probably remain dead. Once we see CM7 done and CM9 starting, i think you'll start to see a bunch of new roms pop up.
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You're probably right.
Surely the parade of better more exciting devices isn't helping.
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I agree I feel UN loved
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Hmm.....
We're supposed to get the OTA and ICS....No???
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I feel the same way about the Photon, but we are making progress too.
Have you guys been able to unlock your bootloaders without loosing LTE? If so, you are at an advantage, but how many of you have developers with this phone?
There is a locked bootloader. The excellent devs have done most of what can be done without that being unlocked. They are not lazy, they just did so well that there is nothing to change until the bootloader is unlocked or motor/Verizon push ics.
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I understand, I am going through the same thing with my Photon, on Sprint, the Now Network.
The devs definitely haven't given up, the Th3ory T3am is working on getting CM9 to boot and a couple of devs over at DF are going through the source code to see if they can unlock the bootloader right now.
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There is a locked bootloader. The excellent devs have done most of what can be done without that being unlocked. They are not lazy, they just did so well that there is nothing to change until the bootloader is unlocked or motor/Verizon push ics.
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A locked BL isn't as big of a hindrance as people think ... really all it stops you from doing is running a custom kernel. You can still make custom roms and over/underclock. Sure it's not ideal bc you have to deal with 2nd init to run CM but otherwise there is still a lot of flexibility. Liberty, Th3ory and eclipse are perfect testaments to that.
it isn't as long as Motorola continues to create roms with kernals for the newest version of android and only as long as it is rootable. The min one of those two things stop happaning we will need kernel access to continue on
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it isn't as long as Motorola continues to create roms with kernals for the newest version of android and only as long as it is rootable. The min one of those two things stop happaning we will need kernel access to continue on
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That's a good point. I would hope that at that point they would at least have the decency to unlock our BL... but who.knows. I'm holding out hope for project cheesecake ... yum I can smell the creamy goodness...
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The Razr came out, all hyped up, and now half of what you see on the forums is talking about how it's not that much different than the Bionic, and it clearly becomes a subjective issue, mainly based on form factor and pentile rgbw/lcd (bionic) vs pentile rgbg/samoled (razr).
The Gnex will likely be similar once it comes out and people realize that its not that much better either. It has pure ICS, but I bet we'll be seeing some of that by the time the Gnex is released anyway - at least some roms based on that source anyway.
Droid 4 is literally a Razr with a kb.
Rezound is great as well, but nothing tremendously better than these others.
My point is this... All of these new phones have something positive and something negative about them. I don't see any good reason why developers would stop supporting the bionic, as it is technically in the same league as all of these other phones. I don't think I'm being too much of an idealist ... at least that's my hope
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I haven't seen much on roms lately. All the one's out here aren't stable either. We only have a couple fully working roms and none of them are being update. If I get a new phone any suggestions on what it should be to take advantage of the most fully functional roms?
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I found Liberty ROM to be quite stable, and while I don't want to jinx it, I've been running Maverick 4.0 for a day or so and it seems great!
If the bootloader ever gets unlocked, it will open up more kernel dev options (for the genius' out there!) which could open up more/better ROM possibilities for us (fingers crossed).
I don't think I'll be upgrading to another phone until a new physical keyboard model comes out. And hopefully it's quad-core with at least a gig of RAM. (512mb on my XT860 has been killing me) ;D
Unfortunately I dont think the kernel will ever be unlocked on our phones... that's Motorola for you.
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But now it's Google...we may get lucky
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Ever since they switched to the nightlies and stopped posting new beta's on here It slowed down, IMO.
I'm happy with Mavrom 4.0 I guess, but would've loved to see hashcode etc. focussing on getting video on ICS, rather than adding features etc. Other ROM makers could've tried that. Who cares about advanced settings when you can't even record a video?
Google is going to probably sell Motorola hardware section to Huawei and keep the core just as legal requirements. Also, they said they are not going to interfere with Motorola decisions on their products. Google only bought Motorola for their parents, nothing more, nothing less.
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Exactly ... but I don't want this to be a Motorola bash... even tho its easy to do... lol... so for now I would like to see a list of roms that are fully functional. I'm on liberty and I keep going back to that just because everything works... what other roms are in this category. And I agree that a extra features aren't important till a fully or close to fully completely working roms is in place. What's the point of all the bells and whistles if you can't even use the basic functions of a phone.. don't get me wrong now. I love trying new roms but it becomes a downer when you get one that has cool extras but you end up going back to a working rom for taking video or watching Netflix .... even if your on safestrap to go back to that functional rom. And the other question is if I change phones what would be a good phone to go to just for rom purposes ...
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The problem iswith the hardware codes and drivers. Every phone probably has this problem with ics. They add more features cause this is almost impossible. The attic has a really good developer support. I would definitely go back yo it if I could but I had nothing but problems with mine. Anyone know how to make a rom? I wanna get into it.
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The attic has a really good developer support.
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I assume you mean Atrix instead of attic?
The real issue to all of the problems is the bootloader. When you can customize the kernel to fit your rom you pretty much take care of any problems. Not to say there aren't roms with custom kernels that don't have issues .... there are but thats due to other things. Programming or incompatibly issues. All of our roms are franken roms held together by bungee cords and duct tape. The devs do a great job with what they have at hand so when time comes for them to build a rom on a phone with a unlocked bootloader, I don't blame them.. much more freedom and the ability to create awesome roms the way they want. All the stable roms we have are just built around the original with some cleaning up and a splash of color... I wonder what it feels like to know when you pick a rom no matter what it is and you know its going to work and the only reason you don't stick with it is because you don't like the way it looks or it doesn't have a extra you want... how sweet.
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Yeah... it was good when i had my Desire Z. All kinds of roms for that thing!
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