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It's Called Tonixx And Is An Online Service That Allows Mobile Phones And Other Devices To Interact, Network And Play Games With Each Other No Matter Where Those Apps And Games Originated From. This Means Android Phones Will Be Able To Play Apps And Games For iPhone, Blackberry, Symbian And Others.
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Its An Online Service Which Allows People With Different Phones And Mobile Devices To Connect, Interact Socially And Play Online Games With Each Other Without The Boundaries That Their Mobile Devices Pose. That Means, If You Have An iphone 4 You Will Be Able To Play An Android Exclusive Online Game If You Sign Up To This Service And Vise Versa

Aren't there already apps that go cross platform?

To My Knowledge Theres No Mobile Game Dedicated Platform O)ut There That Goes Across Multiple Mobile Platforms

it sounds good but a little difficult...

chaosm said:
it sounds good but a little difficult...
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What do you mean by that?

Lizman said:
What do you mean by that?
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He means its a good idea however it is probably going to be hard to set-up/make work.

Some more explaining
The idea is an online service that connects a number of devices through their different applications to a service that allows them to communicate and interact with each other through the service that works around the limitations the devices and device apps present. The end product will be cloud based. That means that it will stream to the designated device while being operated by the companies’ server, allowing for a broader spectrum of devices to gain access to the service devices such as low end mobile phones will have the opportunity to play games that are usually designated for the high end devices. Large server clusters will be set up to allow that kind of service to operate.
Tonixx allows people with mobile smart phones to connect and play games with each other regardless of their operating system. This is made possible by creating a client over a cloud server that is placed on a web browser like infrastructure that can be accessed by every smartphone that passes the minimum requirements for the service. While there will be standalone applications for each of the major operating systems, the web browser interface practically gave us a way to overcome programming issues related to compiling the different Operating system factors into one platform that would work for all.

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What do you mean by that?
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is it a project or you finalised it???

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is it a project or you finalised it???
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What Do You Mean By Project?
If You Mean It Is Ongoing Then You Are Right On Point

Apple and Android already have cross platform real time multi player games.
Android has games cross platform compatible with the 360 and PS3, the problem is Microsoft and Sony not wanting their games cross platform compatible.
There is also the PlayOn service with cloud gaming, where IOS, Android , and PC users can play actual PS3 and 360 games. This service works extremely well
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Apple and Android already have cross platform real time multi player games.
Android has games cross platform compatible with the 360 and PS3, the problem is Microsoft and Sony not wanting their games cross platform compatible.
There is also the PlayOn service with cloud gaming, where IOS, Android , and PC users can play actual PS3 and 360 games. This service works extremely well
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No I Know They Have Cros Platform Multiplayer Games
And I Know That There Are Services That Will Come Out Within A Year That Will Offer Real PS3/XBOX 360 Games To Mobile Users....
Thing Is
There Is NO Single United Mobile Gaming Platform Out There That Allows Gamers From Different OS Platforms To Play ONLY Mobile Games With Each Other (The Mobile Only Restriction Is So Much More Mobile Users Can Use Our Service Due To The Significantly Higher Mimimum Requirements For High End Desktop Games)
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And I Know That There Are Services That Will Come Out Within A Year That Will Offer Real PS3/XBOX 360 Games To Mobile Users....
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The service is already out. Don't know how you missed that.
You want one united service for all game developers?
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vetvito said:
The service is already out. Don't know how you missed that.
You want one united service for all game developers?
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I Wasn't Talking About PlayOn But About OnLive And GAIKAI
The Service I Am Talking About Does Not Exist Just Yet

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This is me playing Saints Row on my phone, with OnLive, its already out.
Multi player works too
Also read why cross platform gaming is at a stand still
http://onlivefans.com/showthread.php?15468-Why-isn-t-Onlive-s-multiplayer-cross-platform
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This is me playing Saints Row on my phone, with OnLive, its already out.
Multi player works too
Also read why cross platform gaming is at a stand still
http://onlivefans.com/showthread.php?15468-Why-isn-t-Onlive-s-multiplayer-cross-platform
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Ah
That I Did Not Know
Still Does Not Change The Fact About My Original Statement And Argument

Wait...
You Played Saints Row On Your Nexus S?

Yes, there are a ton console games available.
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Yes, there are a ton console games available.
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Yeah But My Service Does Not Include Console Games

f u..Gameloft, and your Customer Support: A+ [6-month long email exchange]

Note: This is a very long e-mail diagram with text on my opinions while I point out the problems with Gameloft's games and their Customer Care (Support).
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Now the support was helpful at the start and I did receive free games for my troubles but when they refunded my games that I bought, now that's when I started to flip the table, and my ****. A refund was never asked nor was it implied.
So, does anyone else have bad experiences with Gameloft games and their support?

i have had the same prob i emailed them asking were the eff is the android update for mc3 ios got it what about android? what a bunch of lazy french c****

paintball23456 said:
i have had the same prob i emailed them asking were the eff is the android update for mc3 ios got it what about android? what a bunch of lazy french c****
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This too, another reason why iOS users are so high up on the online leader-boards.

garychencool said:
This too, another reason why iOS users are so high up on the online leader-boards.
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no its not cross platform
ios has a new version with 2 new maps and 2 new perks i cannot play against my friend with a fruit phone they have separated the servers
eff you gameloft you guys dev for both platforms you cant just favor one if you make games for the other

paintball23456 said:
no its not cross platform
ios has a new version with 2 new maps and 2 new perks i cannot play against my friend with a fruit phone they have separated the servers
eff you gameloft you guys dev for both platforms you cant just favor one if you make games for the other
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You sure? I'm pretty sure it's cross-platform.

Gameloft games on Android are missing lots of features and the initial ports are buggy and lacks lots of features like Native gamepad support, less special effects than iOS versions, bad customer support, etc... . Gloft games on iPhone 4 are better than my galaxy S which has a better GPU and lower res screen Wake up Gameloft!

Cheers Gameloft! You guys have an amazing consumer support lol!

6 months? yikes

Mib game has a 99$ in game purchase I let my nephew use my gtab and he ended up buying it . I caught it n cancelled but 99$ for a crappy add on in a crappy game is crazy
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I don't get what's going on? I've noticed that on different phones, my Gameloft data would either save on the phone itself or the phone's SD card. It changed depending on the phone. Right now, the data saves on my SD card. So that's why when I flash my phone, my Gameloft data is still there. My G2 saved the data on the phone, so I had to re-download every time.
That's probably what they were talking about when referring to Android/data/Gameloft
Also, I had some games save in /Gameloft/Name-of-Game and sometimes Gameloft/gameloft-data.
It was different for every Gameloft game I had.
Is that the problem I'm reading? Did I comprehend it correctly? Or am I just way off. =.P

At least they have tried unlike EA. No reply since Feb 29

Bro, your story, it was cool.
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Cool story dude,cool story.

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At least they have tried unlike EA. No reply since Feb 29
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They do try. Customer support hasn't been terrible for me through Gameloft, although some things were not 100% resolved, but very close. People are complaining about iOS being more favorable than android, but with android they have to come up with so many different versions to become compatible, and iOS they don't and it is just much easier for them to code it all.

mrhaddan said:
They do try. Customer support hasn't been terrible for me through Gameloft, although some things were not 100% resolved, but very close. People are complaining about iOS being more favorable than android, but with android they have to come up with so many different versions to become compatible, and iOS they don't and it is just much easier for them to code it all.
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The initial ports for Android are rushed and not optimized. Gangstar Rio is the prime example - iPad files for my Galaxy S? WTF?!

I'm pretty sure Gameloft makes games in C++ and uses the Android NDK to port it over to Android like this.

Google Fiber (TV service)

http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/26/3188845/google-fiber-tv
Looks like Google is getting into the television service providing game. $120/mo is waaay too high for TV IMO. Thoughts?

The free Nexus 7 is nice (but not $120 a month nice since it's $250 for the 16gb), being able to stream from Android devices is nice, but with a service like tv the only way they can oust the monopolies is to beat them on price point. I can't justify spending $120 a month on just tv when I get internet and tv for less than $100 from my local monopoly.

Take out the commercials without the use of the dvr then I might justify paying that much. Also if you are going to play reruns dont just rerun 12 different episodes
LOL Cool idea but too expensive.

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davidrules7778 said:
Take out the commercials without the use of the dvr then I might justify paying that much. Also if you are going to play reruns dont just rerun 12 different episodes
LOL Cool idea but too expensive.
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I've never understood the idea of commercials on anything other than the free over the air channels. I already pay for the tv service, why am I being advertised to like I didn't?!

Google fiber is also a broadband networking service in Kansas city
Read theorion.uk.mn

That's cool but definitely not worth 120 a month.

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I've never understood the idea of commercials on anything other than the free over the air channels. I already pay for the tv service, why am I being advertised to like I didn't?!
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You're paying to be able to receive the channels, you're not paying for the channel itself (that's why starz, hbo, and cinemax are extra, they don't have commercials).

Depends though.. What exact features are coming with the package? I mean it is a bit pricey, but if it offers something another service won't besides a free Nexus 7 "Win!" Than it would be worth looking into.
From my understanding it would be wise to drop DirectTV and Dish at this point because I've heard they dropped plenty of channels an average consumer watches, AMC/Comedy Central etc.
I'd be using Verizon right now if my apartment supported them :/
Have to rely on crappy charter unfortunately.
Got to admit though.. the internet sounds mind blowing, imagine playing your console online lol.. everyone would be pissed
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Depends though.. What exact features are coming with the package? I mean it is a bit pricey, but if it offers something another service won't besides a free Nexus 7 "Win!" Than it would be worth looking into.
From my understanding it would be wise to drop DirectTV and Dish at this point because I've heard they dropped plenty of channels an average consumer watches, AMC/Comedy Central etc.
I'd be using Verizon right now if my apartment supported them :/
Have to rely on crappy charter unfortunately.
Got to admit though.. the internet sounds mind blowing, imagine playing your console online lol.. everyone would be pissed
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Yeah boooo DirecTV, I would have dropped them the second they took my Comedy Central.

Did you guys happen to see the download speed? At 5gbs for download and 1gbs for upload. Yeah I'm pretty sure the packages are worth it. Oh yeah and the 1024gbs of Google drive free as well?
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http://www.androidcentral.com/googl...ation-tossing-free-nexus-7-top-tier-customers
That explains it better than Verge did.
I guess $120 could be plausible, just depends.

WiredPirate said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/googl...ation-tossing-free-nexus-7-top-tier-customers
That explains it better than Verge did.
I guess $120 could be plausible, just depends.
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It is free internet, can't really complain? Household average, seems about correct. Charter gives me about 10-20mbps "Not really" they are ripping me off completely even after I've complained and argued.
I was suppose to be getting 30mbps, charter is not trust worthy at all.
But.. you get the Google package, wade out the two years :/ you have a nexus 7, free internet and now you can drop them for the low package (which I didn't see them mention in the article) for ever how much it is. Then get the bad ass internet.
I'm sure its more complicated than that but from a gist that's what I gathered someone would probably do.
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Nobody can troll Google like Google can.

Google and Valve are the only tech companies that really "get" humor.

withbloodskies said:
It is free internet, can't really complain? Household average, seems about correct. Charter gives me about 10-20mbps "Not really" they are ripping me off completely even after I've complained and argued.
I was suppose to be getting 30mbps, charter is not trust worthy at all.
But.. you get the Google package, wade out the two years :/ you have a nexus 7, free internet and now you can drop them for the low package (which I didn't see them mention in the article) for ever how much it is. Then get the bad ass internet.
I'm sure its more complicated than that but from a gist that's what I gathered someone would probably do.
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Sounds like you don't have a docsis 3 modem, I recommend the Motorola Surfboard Gigabit Docsis 3. I'm on the same as you and I always get 30+. Charters equipment sucks, and you have to lease it for a monthly fee. Just buy your own. Wifi speedtest attached.

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Google and Valve are the only tech companies that really "get" humor.
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I love the Portal "Turret" video! Valve does have a great sense of humor.
Edit: 888 thanks, cool. Nobody press my "thanks" button anymore!
Edit2: Prototype7 you $&@! I still have a screenshot haha.

Oh I have a Motorola but clearly isn't up to standards lol
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Oh I have a Motorola but clearly isn't up to standards lol
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Is it a Docsis 3? That's going to be the biggest factor.

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Anybody else see VHS VS. Betamax parallels to Android VS iPhone?

I don't know where this thought line came from but I just started thinking and I'm seeing a surprising amount of parallels between the "Videotape format war" and the current Android vs. iPhone war.
Here are just a few (that I'm sure people will be able to add to) :
1.VHS was the cheaper format which was a big factor in it's dominance; Android has gotten on to so many devices in so many different price ranges just about anyone can afford a Smartphone. Betamax was the choice of people with disposable income and videophiles; iPhone is sold at a significant markup for people with excess money to buy as a status symbol.
2. VHS and Betamax entered a sort of race to fit as much video recording space on their respective format; Android and iPhone are engaged in a crazy war of features one-up-manship (coining the word now).
3. VHS won because it was the cheaper and more available format; Android is dominating as far as marketshare for being cheaper and far more widespread (just about anyone can have an Android phone, even people with older WinMo phones, looking at HTC HD2).
Anybody else see anything or am I just making connections that aren't there?

I thought we weren't allowed to have android vs apple threads because they would lead to too much flaming
IB4L
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It's not an Apple vs Android thread. It's a comparison between format wars in the 80s to the current Smart Phone war. If the mods don't see any potential for actual discussion here they can and should close it.

Isn't point 1 and point 3 the same point?.

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Isn't point 1 and point 3 the same point?.
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Good point. I see them as different because 1 is just a comparison of what the formats have become from a consumer standpoint and 3 is a comparison of the winner of the Format war and what appears to be becoming the winner of the Smart Phone war.
I would consider it pretty accurate to say that price is going to be the deciding factor. The Nexus 7 has been a massive success for Google and I think it's going to represent a paradigm shift in the tablet market.

VHS vs betamax is completely different to the phone market. Different phones have different price points, hardware and software. VHS vs betamax is similar to HD vs Blueray. And in those situations there can only be one winner for mass production and international exports, so companies will make it so there is only 1 winner. There will never be 1 phone manufacturer there are too many variables, target market groups and consumer preferences.
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VHS vs betamax is completely different to the phone market. Different phones have different price points, hardware and software. VHS vs betamax is similar to HD vs Blueray. And in those situations there can only be one winner for mass production and international exports, so companies will make it so there is only 1 winner. There will never be 1 phone manufacturer there are too many variables, target market groups and consumer preferences.
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Tripe. Your comparison shows a total lack of understanding. I can only assume that you have never watched a betamax video.......
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I see Apple as Laserdisc - beefy, better sound quality, first consumer disc based format, goes out of style real fast.
I see Android as DVD - more streamlined, easier to transport, better use of space for the money.
I loved my laserdiscs for the novelty, but I'll stick with DVD any day of the week.
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OP analogy is pretty bad.

Were there lawsuits out the wazoo in the Betamax wars?

Trolling wasn't invented yet.
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What about HD DVD and bluray?
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That wasn't even a war, that was a skirmish between a first-world power and three kids from down the street with supersoakers. HD DVD never stood a chance with only one studio and a paltry number of manufacturers backing it. Bluray had Sony and Panasonic on board off the rip and pretty much every major studio except for MGM I believe. I didn't pay that much attention except to not that HD DVD was going to go down hard so if nothing else had decided me on a PS3 over XBox 360 that would have.

I can't believe I still have a betamax machine, with tons of vhs video... but no vhs player or betamax tapes.
Does this mean I will end up with an iphone that has no apps, and lots of android software?

Absolutely!
Hey, I googled "iPhones and android like VHS and Beta". and your comment here was second on the Google search page, so I had to join to agree. Iphones are too exclusive and a nightmare doing most things that are not with Apple compatible software (like trying to download gmail). It will be there downfall.

Never heard that argument comparison. It's not a great one tbh. It's incredibly favorable to have a Universal media format (i.e. bluray hd dvd), not so much for phones.

I know this is an old post, but still relevant in 2017
Virgin Mobile U.S.A. just went all Apple, no more android phones. Another pet peeve: the usb ports. We had Mini-B and went to Micro-B. USB ports should have all been standardized in my opinion. I have older chargers with with mini-b usb type that are useless now because most electronics are using the micro-b type.
I sort of understand the Blu-ray vs Dvd and at least most players can use both.

Bestbuy has Moga Power A Bluetooth Controller for $23.99.

I believe this is an in-store price because it is more online. This is supposed to be an excellent controller for use with the GVR. It's normally $59.99. Not all stores carry this so check online before venturing out. Here's the SKU: 1883244.
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is there a link or ad showing its that much in store?

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is there a link or ad showing its that much in store?
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I just bought it for that much in the store about an hour ago. Here's the web link for the online price. If you are hesitant please call ahead for pricing:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/power-a...ices/1883244.p?id=1219066387956&skuId=1883244

From what I've read, B-mode is best for non Moga games.

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From what I've read, B-mode is best for non Moga games.
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Did the inventory checker work for you? Im trying on the website but its not even populating how it usually does with all the locations

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Did the inventory checker work for you? Im trying on the website but its not even populating how it usually does with all the locations
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Yeah it did. They have changed that lately. You may have to re-enter the zip code again manually.

Called my Best Buy and they said it's been discontinued so it can only be bought in store. Bummer
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Sean Z said:
Called my Best Buy and they said it's been discontinued so it can only be bought in store. Bummer
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Probably why it's a good deal. You don't have any in stores near you?

Checked and called within 50 miles near me and they've all said the same thing. I even showed them your post and they said they've discontinued it. :/
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probably not going to show inventory online but might luck out by going and walking through the store, what section do they keep them in? gaming? or cellular

Well they may be mistaken about the discontinue as they have them advertised for sale online and my best buy had 4.

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probably not going to show inventory online but might luck out by going and walking through the store, what section do they keep them in? gaming? or cellular
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They usually have a small hook of them by the phone cases and an end display between console games and computer accessories, depending on store layout. Your best bet would be to go for the Power Pro (same generation, but "premium") on Amazon or somewhere that has it discounted. It is far more comfortable and still fits into the Gear VR bag by propping it in the area meant for the Sammy one.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/power-a...ices/1883244.p?id=1219066387956&skuId=1883244 <- That is what comes up for the SKU. They are $36.99 and it is the Moga Hero, so chances are they will not price match based on a rumor. Usually discontinued items are marked or regular price on the site, not on sale.
The Hero line is known for being problematic. They do some interesting things with the buttons, such as sending out buffer codes. It is not something you may see as an end user, so long as the apps you use it with have accounted for use with the Hero.
If the controller didn't work for you, that may work to your advantage. Before returning it, it is a good idea to contact Moga. Moga doesn't do recalls, they discontinue the controller and then do warranty replacements for a similar item. They have done the same thing with their console controllers and you can buy a $30 PS3 controller and with one phone call a week or so of waiting, come out with a $60 Xbox controller.
My thoughts on the Hero are not based on experience with the Gear VR specifically, they are based on experience with designing the controller interface for an emulator. Moga releases a general plug-in for Unity, so chances are using it with the Gear VR exclusively will never present the issues. The plugin for Android as a whole requires you design a separate interface just for the Hero, which unless you use their SDK, is when you begin to notice the eccentricities.

twistedumbrella said:
They usually have a small hook of them by the phone cases and an end display between console games and computer accessories, depending on store layout.
You're better off waiting for a sale on the Power Pro or praying it's broken out of the box. Moga tends to cut all ties to discontinued hardware, but their warranty repair is to replace it with a current model.
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What?!
Mine works fine and for $24 is a steal. I really can't be worried about "continued support". I mean, it's a controller - how much support does it need? You turn it on, you press the buttons, boom boom. Don't think I'll be calling support for a walk-through. *SMH*
My BestBuy had 3 flavors, the Pro, an iPhone model and this one. They sold them in the mobile section. The Pro version was very expensive and not on sale. The online inventory thing did show they had these in 3 stores in my region.
The problem with "waiting on a Pro version sale" is waiting on a Pro version sale. Are you willing to wait months (if ever) just to save a few bucks on a controller? Kind of ridiculous plan assuming you actually want a controller anytime soon.

mitchellvii said:
What?!
Mine works fine and for $24 is a steal. I really can't be worried about "continued support". I mean, it's a controller - how much support does it need? You turn it on, you press the buttons, boom boom. Don't think I'll be calling support for a walk-through. *SMH*
My BestBuy had 3 flavors, the Pro, an iPhone model and this one. They sold them in the mobile section. The Pro version was very expensive and not on sale. The online inventory thing did show they had these in 3 stores in my region.
The problem with "waiting on a Pro version sale" is waiting on a Pro version sale. Are you willing to wait months (if ever) just to save a few bucks on a controller? Kind of ridiculous plan assuming you actually want a controller anytime soon.
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I prefer not to run out and buy something because I saw one thread about it on xda. That is how you end up with $200 in hardware that you have to post all over xda bashing. It is better to be absolutely sure it is the device you want, not just the one that was on sale. Whether or not you want to be impatient is your discretion. I am only providing the info I found through a lot of research before I bought the Moga Power Pro that has stuck with me through three devices.
Other cheap but extremely well-rated controllers that do not require special software:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/22099651?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227017417372
http://www.gamestop.com/android/acc...6-idroid-con-bluetooth-game-controller/106526
http://buy.thegameklip.com/
And here is the Hero Power with a regular price of $33 on Amazon. Obviously you aren't missing a great sale if you wait a week to see if the other one goes on sale first.
http://www.amazon.com/POWER-MOGA-Pro-Electronic-Games-Game/dp/B00FB5RBJM

Thanks for links. Those are all significantly more expensive than the model discussed in the OP and the last one isn't even a controller at all, it's a clip.