I got only 11.07 gigabytes on a USB block and around 2 on internal. What is this!?
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2GBs are reserved for applications and 1GB is reserved for Android OS. The remaining two gigabytes are unallocated I think.
In short, everything is fine and every manufacturer does this.
There's a total of 16GB of flash memory.
Around 700M-1GB for /system
512MB for /preload
2GB for /data
??? MB (100-200) for /cache
A few small partitions for bootloaders/kernels
The remaining 11GB or so for /sdcard
Another 'trick' manufacturers use is to quote 1GB as 1000 MB (and 1MB as 1000kB, etc.) instead of the 1024s the OS uses. That way the quoted marketing says 16GB but you end up with less because of the inaccuracies between base values.
I.e. marketing: 16GB = 16 x 1000 x 1000 x 1000 bytes.
OS: 16 x 1024 x 1024 x 1024 bytes.
emuX said:
Another 'trick' manufacturers use is to quote 1GB as 1000 MB (and 1MB as 1000kB, etc.) instead of the 1024s the OS uses. That way the quoted marketing says 16GB but you end up with less because of the inaccuracies between base values.
I.e. marketing: 16GB = 16 x 1000 x 1000 x 1000 bytes.
OS: 16 x 1024 x 1024 x 1024 bytes.
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Actually marketed values are a true representation. The prefix giga means 10^9 so a gigabyte is 1 x 10^9 bytes.
But as already stated it's the combination of these factors that lead to what appears to be reduced space on the device. It's a good thing we've got micro sd slot
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I just got a new XDAIIi, after having a XDAII for three years, thinking I was getting more memory and to be much faster well so hope. So what I want to know where the memory, it telling me I have RAM 128mb and Flash 64mb but on the website it says it has 128mb of both, could someone tell me where it is before I go back to O2 shop.
Thanks
James
It does only have 128MB shared storage and program memory and 64MB Storage.
Why does it say that it has 128 of both???? Is it a lie?
I think, can't remember for sure, but 64MB is taken up by the flash ROM. 64MB is available as storage.
Another twist on numbers from O2.
Yes, 64 mb of flash is taken by windows and some progs.
other 64 are available as storage. (64+64=128)
and 128 mb ram. so 256 total.
This is what it says on the O2 web site and the main reson for getting this XDA2i and not the Xda Exec. Would it be better to get the Xda Exec?
Processor Type: Intel Xscale PXA272 520MHz
128 MB SDRAM, 128 MB ROM
3.5" Transflective 65,536 colour LCD (1.3m pixels)
VGA Camera 1.3 Megapixels
Is this true......
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Is this true......
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Thats true and common in All Note.
If you compare with 4s internal memories, and the samsung galaxy S2 and S1.. It's different, i think the rest of the memories been given to the operating system.. So i thought of the first day i use Note after S1/S2/4s.. The bigger the phone the less the size of the memories LOL.. But that good to have external memories. Ever tried installing 32gigs memories card?
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Yup. It is 16GB, and that appears to be split into:
800 MB 'RAM'
1 GB 'Phone Space'
11 GB 'usb storage'
Using my amazing mathematical powers, I deduce that excluding the silly 'GB rounding errors', we have 3 GB or so left over and that contains the OS itself. I am guessing about that however, it may be laid out in separate chips or something. It seems most likely that a 16 GB ship would be used, however, as 11 GB chips just don't exist.
Nothing new. I have a 4GB memory stick, and surely enough it's not 4GB, but it's 3.7 GB. My laptop has 500GB HDD, but it doesn't have the full 500GB, but it has 470GB. That's 30GB out the window.
I don't understand why they don't make it 530GB, take their stinking 30GB, and give me my 500GB
"The difference between units based on SI and binary prefixes increases as a semi-logarithmic (linear-log) function—for example, the SI kilobyte value is nearly 98% of the kibibyte, a megabyte is under 96% of a mebibyte, and a gigabyte is just over 93% of a gibibyte value. This means that a 300*GB (279*GiB) hard disk is indicated only as 279*GB. As storage sizes increase and larger units are used, this difference becomes even more pronounced."
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"The difference between units based on SI and binary prefixes increases as a semi-logarithmic (linear-log) function—for example, the SI kilobyte value is nearly 98% of the kibibyte, a megabyte is under 96% of a mebibyte, and a gigabyte is just over 93% of a gibibyte value. This means that a 300*GB (279*GiB) hard disk is indicated only as 279*GB. As storage sizes increase and larger units are used, this difference becomes even more pronounced."
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While that is certainly true of hard disks, because of their arbitrary size, you will notice that all flash drives, and indeed all memory chips, come in 'set' sizes. Each is basically double the previous. In such chips the size issue you mention would not cause any difference, I believe.
I am pretty certain that this thing has a 16GB memory chip, but the partition for usb storage is just a partition of that.
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While that is certainly true of hard disks, because of their arbitrary size, you will notice that all flash drives, and indeed all memory chips, come in 'set' sizes. Each is basically double the previous. In such chips the size issue you mention would not cause any difference, I believe.
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Yes, it would. The maths is still the same, no matter the size of the device or its type. Like e.g. my 16GB microSDHC is actually 14.9GiB.
As for the OP: it is common for device manufacturers to report the whole amount of installed storage, even if that storage cannot be used by end-users. It's a simple marketing trick where the only point is to try to make it seem more than it actually is in reality. It's not technically lying, it's just not telling the whole truth.
Also you can quite safely assume that you'll actually be able to use only about 70% of the reported storage space, the rest is for ROM and such. It's the same thing for all of my mobile devices, including my Iconia Tab A500 tablet.
Actually, that is not entirely correct. Flash-based storage devices come with sizes in powers of two as, I believe, this is a consequence of the technology and of the manufacturing process.
Your example of the SDHC card is valid only because the formatted capacity is different and always smaller than the device capacity due to filesystem overhead. There is no units conversion loss here, it is a real one because you simply cannot have a filesystem without any overhead (remember that there is no free lunch).
Magnetic storage devices do suffer, however, from the misleading advertisement of having their capacity expressed in powers of ten, not of two. Moreover, there also is the loss of user-available capacity by the means of using a filesystem, so then you have a two-fold decrease in total user available capacity.
To cut a long story short: the Note has, indeed, a 16 GiB flash-storage chip inside. A part of this is reserved for the OS (about 3 GiB), another part is reserved for application storage (about 2 GiB) and the rest (about 11 GiB) is all for the user to fill up with her stuff.
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Actually, that is not entirely correct. Flash-based storage devices come with sizes in powers of two as, I believe, this is a consequence of the technology and of the manufacturing process.
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That is my understanding too.
Just do as I did and add a 64GB NTFS formatted SDHC. No problems, no more.
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System rom : 880mb
Internal : 2.11 gb
Sd storage : 11.8 gb
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Hi all,
I purchased Sandisk 16GB Microsdhc card, class 4
But in phone properties, it is showing as only 14.83 GB
Any solution to get full space of 16 GB?
Nothing has it full capacity, i have a 16GB Sandisk too, and it shows the same free space as yours, just get used to it ^^
Maybe there is solution friend, we have to trace out
And...why people dare to use different ROMs...i am very afraid to do things like that.., but interested those..
first of all if I have to install CM9...shall I need rooted phone ?
That is simple.
When you buy a SD Card or and hard drive or something like that, for an example, the 16GB it is in 16000000000 bits.
Since 1kb = 1024 bytes, doing the math...
16000000000 bits = 14.9011611938477 gigabits
yup, and is the same for every storage device, I also had a 16Gb but from Kingston and it shows actuall storage as 14.8Gb
1000 vs. 1024
When you see the space on a disk reported by the operating system (Android, Linux, et. al.) it is usually in units based on a kilo = 1024, commonly used by engineers who work with computers and digital logic:
One kilobyte (KB) = 1024 bytes.
One megabyte (MB) = 1024 x 1024 = 1,048,576 bytes.
One gigabyte (GB) = 1024 x 1024 x1024 = 1,073,741,824 bytes.
To make their products seem bigger, manufacturers use definitions of kilo-, mega- and giga- in the way they are commonly used in other disciplines:
kilo = 1000
mega = 1000 x 1000 = 1,000,000
giga = 1000 x 1000 = 1,000,000,000
Read the fine print on the packaging that comes with your flash memory card. Get a microscope and read it.
What, you threw that out one minute after you got home and didn't read the fine print!?!? Well, it's also on their website:
sandisk.com/products/mobile1-memory-products/sandisk-mobile-ultra-microsdhc-and-microsdxc-uhs-i-cards-for-android
Find the footnote marked by **. As you can see, the company is 100% honest. :angel:
So, when SanDisk says 16 GB, they mean 16 billion bytes.
But 16 billion divided by 1073741824 is only 14.9012. You are really getting only 14.9 GB (in 1024 byte kilobytes), and that is that the operating system is reporting. Well, you lost some space on the device that is taken up by formatting with FAT32, so that is why you see 14.83 GB, which is what I also get for my SanDisk "16 GB" SD Class 10 card. Read the footnote again. They never promised you could use *all* of the 16 billion bytes! You are lucky you got any space left for your data at all. Maybe they should say "up to almost 16 GB". :laugh:
I certainly won't defend the policy of SanDisk and other manufacturers. It seems to me that if they want to maintain a good reputation, a better strategy would be to deliver enough space that even after formatting, the device would initially show *more* than they advertise, not less.
Ive always wanted a macbook, i just moved to germany so i have no computer and next year, in march i will go to a graphic design school, so now its the time to buy one, but these macbooks pro are so damn expensive, the 15 inch model costs 2.279,00 € but it only comes with 256 gb that's a joke to me and even a greater joke its that for a upgrade to a 512 gb ssd they charge 500 € ! a 512 sdd disk on amazon is usually 350 € !
Also do you think i will be fine with 8 gb of ram or i should pay extra 200 € and get the 16 gb of ram?
Have any of you actually used one of apples financing deals? i cant afford to spend almost 3000 € at once, since my german is very bad i cannot fully understand their conditions , how do they work? 24 months to pay+ 7.99% of interest+ ?? this is what google translate came up with lol "Example conditions
€ 1,000 Net loan amount monthly. Installment amount € 45.10, 7.99% APR, 24-month term, 5.28% bound borrowing rate plus 25, - € processing fee, total € 1,082.40. Subject to availability. The figures are at once the 2/3 sample in accordance with § 6 para 3 PAngV represents credit Agencies are alone for Credit Plus Bank,"
Also i could gather the money so that i dont have to pay with financing but do they have special discounts for students?
Right now my choices are:
a) 15": 2,3 GHz + 8 gb of ram + 512 gb disk for 2.779,01 €
b) 15": 2,3 GHz + 16 gb of ram + 512 gb disk for 2.979,01 €
c) 15": 2,6 GHz + 8 gb of ram + 512 gb disk for 2.899,00 €
d) 15": 2,6 GHz + 16 gb of ram + 512 gb disk for 3.099,00 €
Thanks for your help and keep in my mind that this would be my computer for at least 2, very likely 3 years!
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My question is as the title says.
I have a hard time finding out how much storage is reserved by the system on the regular Galaxy S23. Not +, not Ultra. Ultra I was able to find online easily, the regular not.
So if anyone has an answer to this. For both the 128GB version and the 256GB version. Thanks!
My S23 system is 38GB
I expect that the system partition size for 128 and 256 Gb is the same. Only the 256 Gb has more free Space.
If you don't need Music and Movies on storage then the 128 GB is sufficient.
I have a 256 and the system is 38GB.