Hi,
I have now rooted stock rom 4.0.3 with stock kernel and would like to flash 4.0.4 via Mobile Odin with keeping root and not changing kernel to custom.
I've heard that wiping in stock recovery with stock kernel is dangerous but does it also include wiping via Mobile Odin (all wipes, i.e. wipe data, wipe cache and delvic cache)?
Regards,
Michael.
maypex said:
Hi,
I have now rooted stock rom 4.0.3 with stock kernel and would like to flash 4.0.4 via Mobile Odin with keeping root and not changing kernel to custom.
I've heard that wiping in stock recovery with stock kernel is dangerous but does it also include wiping via Mobile Odin (all wipes, i.e. wipe data, wipe cache and delvic cache)?
Regards,
Michael.
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DO NOT WIPE ON ICS STOCK KERNEL
Just flash it. it will reboot. Now open Mobile Odin again and select kernel (.tar) version of Speedmod or Notecore ICS kernels and flash it. After that you can make wipes as it is safe wiping on these kernels
Cheers
How is it possible that a stock kernel (directly from Samsung) is more dangerous than the custom ones ?
Mobile ODIN's wipe is safe regardless of kernel.
Chainfire said:
Mobile ODIN's wipe is safe regardless of kernel.
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Thanks very much, thats what i wanted to hear :victory::victory::victory:
MO flashes its own kernel for the work that it does i believe
so beautiful
maypex said:
How is it possible that a stock kernel (directly from Samsung) is more dangerous than the custom ones ?
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Because you need to read the stickies once. it has emmc bug enabled.
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hey I have been away from note some time now...
so I've tried to read about the BRICK problem..
I just can't figure out if there is any safe ICS ??
dk_iceman said:
hey I have been away from note some time now...
so I've tried to read about the BRICK problem..
I just can't figure out if there is any safe ICS ??
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As far as I know the LPY was an issue and as long as you don't wipe data/factory reset in that one, than it shuouldn't be a problem either...I'm on LQ2 and have been on LP9 I think and I even accidently wiped data in LP9 and nothing happend. So you should be safe as long as you're not on LPY and like get the LQ2 or LQ3 version.
ICS is safe with a safe kernel i.e. CM9,franco kernel etc which are clear of any wipe bug present in the stock ICS kernels.Hence, the CM9 nightlies,ParanoidAndroid and other ROMs which utilize to CM9 kernels are safe.
Alteratively, you can also flash to GB and then flash a ROM with an unsafe kernel and then flash a safe kernel via PC Odin.It's recommended to go through flashing GB as it reduces risk.However,do this at your own risk
gartner83 said:
As far as I know the LPY was an issue and as long as you don't wipe data/factory reset in that one, than it shuouldn't be a problem either...I'm on LQ2 and have been on LP9 I think and I even accidently wiped data in LP9 and nothing happend. So you should be safe as long as you're not on LPY and like get the LQ2 or LQ3 version.
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According to my understanding/knowledge none of available ICS official firmware/ROM is safe. Use safe kernels and ROMs mentioned by warfareonly.
warfareonly said:
ICS is safe with a safe kernel i.e. CM9,franco kernel etc which are clear of any wipe bug present in the stock ICS kernels.Hence, the CM9 nightlies,ParanoidAndroid and other ROMs which utilize to CM9 kernels are safe.
Alteratively, you can also flash to GB and then flash a ROM with an unsafe kernel and then flash a safe kernel via PC Odin.It's recommended to go through flashing GB as it reduces risk.However,do this at your own risk
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Mostly right. Any AOSP kernel is safe - eg CM9. But then you don't get touchwiz, if you want that.
There are a few Samsung based kernels which have the brick bugs removed. They are probably safe - there have been no bricks with them that I know of.
NEVER wipe or format using stock ics kernel (whether from cwm or within android) if you are rooted.
To be completely safe, either use Odin or from a gb kernel. If you are rooted you don't have to flash a full gb rom - just flash abyss 4.2 and then reboot to recovery (do not reboot the device). Then wipe and flash a cwm flashable from from abyss recovery. There is no danger of the brick bug provided the wipes are done through the gb recovery.
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fslateef said:
According to my understanding/knowledge none of available ICS official firmware/ROM is safe. Use safe kernels and ROMs mentioned by warfareonly.
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Yes,you are right. The kernel must not be official,has to be custom(and not based on lpy) to be safe.
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I am on stock DDLP8 with stock kernel. I am planning to flash paranoid android. Can anyone confirm if following steps would work properly:
1. I flash franco kernel via PC odin.
2. Flash Paranoid Android using CWM.
Or shall I resort to the longer & safer route of going back to GB first & then flashing paranoid android.
Read the instructions given on the Paranoid Android ROM thread.They clearly state to go back and flash from a GB rom...Here, I've posted the info for you
--->DON'T flash FROM ANY SAMSUNG ICS OR ROMS BASED ON SAMSUNG KERNELS
--->Flash any stock GB rom with odin / or any GB kernel ,root deviceand reboot into recovery once again before flashing this
--->Install Rom: http://d-h.st/agf 119.46 MB
--->Install HYBRID Gapps: http://tjohansson.is-a-geek.com/file...0511-fixed.zip
--->Wipe caches, factory reset is a must if you're coming from another rom than CM9
Next time, read.Safety always
Hi,
I need to ask it, before testing, in order to be sure I make no mistake.
I have sucessfully updated my Note from
GB 2.3.6 official samsung, to ICS paranoid v0.4 ICS, rooted (I used Odin PC to root, then Odin mobile to get the kernel + CWM)
actual kernel :
I would like to test some kernel (Abyss, Franco, ...). then, after that, some ROM (???)
I bought Mobile Odin.
is it safe to use it to flash kernel ?
is it better to use the recovery mode ?
same question about ROM ?
thank you
Olivier
orobin said:
Hi,
I need to ask it, before testing, in order to be sure I make no mistake.
I have sucessfully updated my Note from
GB 2.3.6 official samsung, to ICS paranoid v0.4 ICS, rooted (I used Odin PC to root, then Odin mobile to get the kernel + CWM)
actual kernel :
I would like to test some kernel (Abyss, Franco, ...). then, after that, some ROM (???)
I bought Mobile Odin.
is it safe to use it to flash kernel ?
is it better to use the recovery mode ?
same question about ROM ?
thank you
Olivier
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Yes it is safe and easy. Recovery or mobileodin, either of them. Just remember not to recovery reset or data wipe in stock ics. Even if your on safe kernel like speedmod k3-6, do the wiping at on your own risk but i never read once that they brick there phone doing the wiping on speedmod k3-3. Dont blame me okay.
Hi,
thanks for the feedback.
it gives me another question :
I read that I shouldn't do any wipe, under ICS.
but, for some ROM, or Kernel, it is adviced to do a wipe.
does it mean that I should then going back to GB.
do a wipe.
and flash again the rom and kernel starting from "scratch" ?
or should I flash with mobile odin, no wipe, and let's go, it should work well ?
thanks
Olivier
orobin said:
Hi,
thanks for the feedback.
it gives me another question :
I read that I shouldn't do any wipe, under ICS.
but, for some ROM, or Kernel, it is adviced to do a wipe.
does it mean that I should then going back to GB.
do a wipe.
and flash again the rom and kernel starting from "scratch" ?
or should I flash with mobile odin, no wipe, and let's go, it should work well ?
thanks
Olivier
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I always do wiping while on speedmod, that's me, i dont know about you if you trust the speedmod, im not 100% sure that is really safe, you do it at your own risk. Well you can go back to gb and do the wiping there and flash ics if want to be really safe.
I successfully flashed my NOTE but i factory reset first , my friend wants to flash also his rooted note ICS a lot of apps already installed, is it safe to flash it with apps installed and if yes are the apps are still there after i flash?
mpeduche said:
I successfully flashed my NOTE but i factory reset first , my friend wants to flash also his rooted note ICS a lot of apps already installed, is it safe to flash it with apps installed and if yes are the apps are still there after i flash?
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Warning dont factory reset or recovery wipe or do nandroid on ics. Be on safe kernel first like speedmod or goku or notecore before doing anything.
If you flash a no wipe rom all apps will remain and all official ics rom is no wipe.
jonpaslim said:
Warning dont factory reset or recovery wipe or do nandroid on ics. Be on safe kernel first like speedmod or goku or notecore before doing anything.
If you flash a no wipe rom all apps will remain and all official ics rom is no wipe.
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so i can directly flash my friends note with the notecore? is he gonna loose all his apps installed?
Yes, you can flash directly.
Flashing kernel won't erase data.
Just remember to reset counter with triangle away after flashing custom kernel with PC Odin.
Flashing kernel with Mobile Odin doesn't increase flash counter.
Pre100n said:
Flashing kernel with Mobile Odin doesn't increase flash counter.
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nor has the triangle mark on boot........
This is may be from other flash, flashing kernel or anything possile with mobile odin won't raise counter.
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1-I am on ICS 4 0 4 stock rom with speedmode 15, I want to eflashing the same stock rom, what should i do to keep the root which came with the speed mode kernel?
2-and if i want to reflash the stock kernel only with keeping the root, what should i do ?
3-if i reflash the same rom, does it wipes all data?
subrban said:
1-I am on ICS 4 0 4 stock rom with speedmode 15, I want to eflashing the same stock rom, what should i do to keep the root which came with the speed mode kernel?
2-and if i want to reflash the stock kernel only with keeping the root, what should i do ?
3-if i reflash the same rom, does it wipes all data?
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Dont understand exactly what you want, but will try answer...
1. If you want to flash pure stock rom, you can do this with PC-odin, but it will wipe your apps and settings. If you do it this way you must remember that you will be on stock kernel which is not safe, and also you will not be rooted.
2. You can flash a PhilZ kernel which is stock, and have implemented new cwm and you will be rooted, you will have all your apps and settings like before
3. Yes if you flashed it trough pc odin, you will lose all apps and settings, but it will not delete your data on internal sd card. like pictures, movies etc, but like in no.1 you will be on stock (unsafe) kernel without root
djoni_gitara said:
Dont understand exactly what you want, but will try answer...
1. If you want to flash pure stock rom, you can do this with PC-odin, but it will wipe your apps and settings. If you do it this way you must remember that you will be on stock kernel which is not safe, and also you will not be rooted.
2. You can flash a PhilZ kernel which is stock, and have implemented new cwm and you will be rooted, you will have all your apps and settings like before
3. Yes if you flashed it trough pc odin, you will lose all apps and settings, but it will not delete your data on internal sd card. like pictures, movies etc, but like in no.1 you will be on stock (unsafe) kernel without root
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thanks 4 ur help, in defrent way:
1- my rom is ics 4.0.4, and i flashed speeddmode 15 to get the root and better performance, now how do i flash the same stock rom ( ics 4.0.4) without loosing the rot?
2-if i want to flash only stock ( ics 4.0.4 kernel ), what should i do without loosing the rot?
3- do i loos the apps and settinge and data if i did one of the above steps?
subrban said:
thanks 4 ur help, in defrent way:
1- my rom is ics 4.0.4, and i flashed speeddmode 15 to get the root and better performance, now how do i flash the same stock rom ( ics 4.0.4) without loosing the rot?
2-if i want to flash only stock ( ics 4.0.4 kernel ), what should i do without loosing the rot?
3- do i loos the apps and settinge and data if i did one of the above steps?
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1: use the stock rom in mobile odin and select enable everoot, inject superuser and inject mobile odin. This way root will be retained. But keep in mind that this will revert to stock kernel which is unsafe for wipes.
2: use mobile odin again to flash the kernel. Either extract the zimage or put the full rom in kernel section of mobile odin.
3: ics is non wipe so it will not delete the apps and data. It will put back the stock apps you might have deleted. In mobile odin make sure the wipe data is not ticked to preserve data. Just flashing a kernel will not reset data or apps
nokiamodeln91 said:
1: use the stock rom in mobile odin and select enable everoot, inject superuser and inject mobile odin. This way root will be retained. But keep in mind that this will revert to stock kernel which is unsafe for wipes.
2: use mobile odin again to flash the kernel. Either extract the zimage or put the full rom in kernel section of mobile odin.
3: ics is non wipe so it will not delete the apps and data. It will put back the stock apps you might have deleted. In mobile odin make sure the wipe data is not ticked to preserve data. Just flashing a kernel will not reset data or apps
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since the wipe is dangerous on stock kernel, when i can make full wipe to get better performance ?
Before flashing the stock kernel. Now it's Ok as you are on speedmod.
nokiamodeln91 said:
Before flashing the stock kernel. Now it's Ok as you are on speedmod.
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many thanks:good:
currently on alliancerom, just wonder if it possible to directly flash ICS back via ODIN or i MUST go back to GB first?
you can flash directly to ICS, you may get some FCs after the flash because of old custom ROM files, So the best thing to do would be to:
Reboot into TWRP recovery (included with Alliance ROM)
wipe cache / dalvik cache / factory reset
reboot download mode
flash ICS via ODIN or Mobile ODIN.
azzledazzle said:
you can flash directly to ICS, you may get some FCs after the flash because of old custom ROM files, So the best thing to do would be to:
Reboot into TWRP recovery (included with Alliance ROM)
wipe cache / dalvik cache / factory reset
reboot download mode
flash ICS via ODIN or Mobile ODIN.
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i wonder is it safe to flash philz kernel and reboot recovery into cwm and flash other rom? because as far as i know flashing cwm type of zip will cause big issue in twrp
sure you can, just download it and install like you would a ROM, It might not work with Alliance ROM, so be sure to reboot recovery and change ROM from there. :good:
whitepandaaa said:
i wonder is it safe to flash philz kernel and reboot recovery into cwm and flash other rom? because as far as i know flashing cwm type of zip will cause big issue in twrp
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You can flash Stock ICS and philz kernel at the same time with Mobile Odin. Then, reboot in recovery and do the wipes....that is how I did it and worked fine for me.