Bell hardware vs rogers hardware? - HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity

My wife and I both own raiders, originally from rogers..I s-offed both phones and we've been running the dark raider rom since about version 1.2 with no problems..still using wcx recovery as I haven't had any issues with it.
Our friend liked our phones enough to jump ship from blackberry and went and got a used bell raider running official ics. I unlocked his bootloader successfully, s-off worked like a charm, but here it gets weird.
It boot loops after trying to install ANY custom rom..! I tried 3 different recoveries, all of which failed on kernel install.. tried the old way and fastboot flashed the boot.img and still got boot loops or crash to recovery..I'm not new to these procedures..even had hyuh from juopunutbear irc remote in and try his hand at it with the same results.
I restored from bell ics ruu - phone boots normally. What gives? Did bell modify the hardware??
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My buddy has the Rogers Raider (and I have the Bell) and I've done the root/s-off etc. on both of them and there was no difference in workflow needed.
BUT - I think you may have to flash an "insecure" kernel just once to allow your recovery to successfully flash kernels during the ROM install.
Below is the thread where you can download kozmikkick's insecure (aka "stockish") kernel. It's mentioned in the first post of the thread below. Give that kernel a flash (It looks like it is in a ZIP format that you can install via your ClockWorkMod recovery?) then try to flash your desired kernel. If you want to flash the stockish kernel manually, look inside the zip. There is a "holiday.img" file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572015
Also - Not sure if this matters, but I have been using ClockWorkMod v5.5.0.4 recovery and I have been able to flash many roms (and their respective kernels during the rom install)
Good luck!

So, since he's already s-off now and whatnot I can flash the "stockish" kernel you mentioned on his stock rom? Or will I have to try flashing a custom rom along with it? And if so, coming from Bell do you have any rom recommendations? I'm a fan of the dark raider rom personally.
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Getting a 404 not found on your link..
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Nvm searched the forum and found it..still wondering if I can flash it on stock bell ics tho.
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bproulx said:
Nvm searched the forum and found it..still wondering if I can flash it on stock bell ics tho.
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Sorry bout the link.
I'm not sure if it will work with stock... my assumption would be yes because its called "stockish"... but I dont know. I say wait until you're ready to flash a custom rom before you try it. So - flash the stockish kernel (i prefer via fastboot), then reboot right into recovery, then flash rom... and see if it all went ok?
You have the stock Bell RUU, so if anything goes wrong, you can fall back on that.
Right now I'm on the Pure Velocity rom... loving it.

Omg..ok tried the method u posted with kozmik "stockish"..but got looped at boot... But the rom I was installing had an option to install an unsecured at&t stock boot image and that, of all things, did the trick. What u said made me think to try it.
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bproulx said:
Omg..ok tried the method u posted with kozmik "stockish"..but got looped at boot... But the rom I was installing had an option to install an unsecured at&t stock boot image and that, of all things, did the trick. What u said made me think to try it.
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So... after you got that going, were you then able to flash a rom with a custom kernel (all in one shot?)

Yes. After flashing the kozmik "stockish" kernel, then the custom rom, booting and getting as far as "android is upgrading" before boot looping I figured why not flash the entire thing again this time with the proper kernel and it went perfectly. I was using cwm5.5.0.4 for the record..which I'm told is still the best. My friend was happy, and I was just glad it worked this time..I was so confused why the Bell version wouldn't take the software..!
As always, I found the answer right here on XDA. Thanks again!
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bproulx said:
Yes. After flashing the kozmik "stockish" kernel, then the custom rom, booting and getting as far as "android is upgrading" before boot looping I figured why not flash the entire thing again this time with the proper kernel and it went perfectly. I was using cwm5.5.0.4 for the record..which I'm told is still the best. My friend was happy, and I was just glad it worked this time..I was so confused why the Bell version wouldn't take the software..!
As always, I found the answer right here on XDA. Thanks again!
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Mint
I like when things work !!!
Happy romming

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Htc vivid at&t bricked :/ (help)

Hi i need a setup for restore my htc vivid for AT&T i used the tool kit HTC Vivid All-In-One Toolkit V2.1 for unlock the boot loader. I unlock the boot loader but i try install the flash kernel my cellphone vivid is bricked i need help for install another stock rom or finware ( cellphone bricked in the htc logo help me please )
More information is needed. Did you trying installing a custom rom? Chances are if your stuck at that screen then you need to flash the correct kernel
Take a look at this video I made to help people with this process
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VAG_3PJVzMs
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i think!! i need finish the setup
i see the video and i think needed install the rom - i unlock the boot loader install the recovery + kernel and i needed install the rom i downloaded for check the cellphone work!!! thanks for the reply
This is for ics ?
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Yes I am running ics on the att vivid but all the steps I show in the video can be used for gingerbread such as installing recovery, the kernel and the rom. I just didn't go over how to unlock the bootloader thru HTC dev because it's pretty comprehensive. And updating the hboot is only if your coming from gingerbread and going to ics
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ccb101 said:
More information is needed. Did you trying installing a custom rom? Chances are if your stuck at that screen then you need to flash the correct kernel
Take a look at this video I made to help people with this process
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VAG_3PJVzMs
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I was just about To direct him that way
the last setup install rom!!!
Excelent i fixed the problem

Set CPU to higher MHz

Kinda new to the android os, coming from windows 7 and windows mobile before. First, i have a HTC Vivid.....I am currently still running the vivd stock rom...I have rooted it with S-off, and have flashed a few different Kernels. Doesnt matter witch kernel i use, if i try to set the CPU to a higher MHz it seams to only show 1188 as the max. A couple of the kernels are suppose to run little bit higher than that, like for one, the KangBang kernel is rated at 2.0 with S-off, but i still only get 1188 option as the max. Now, with these apps like SetCPU really able to change and or adjust the CPU frequency?
Thanks!!
lucasryan said:
Kinda new to the android os, coming from windows 7 and windows mobile before. First, i have a HTC Vivid.....I am currently still running the vivd stock rom...I have rooted it with S-off, and have flashed a few different Kernels. Doesnt matter witch kernel i use, if i try to set the CPU to a higher MHz it seams to only show 1188 as the max. A couple of the kernels are suppose to run little bit higher than that, like for one, the KangBang kernel is rated at 2.0 with S-off, but i still only get 1188 option as the max. Now, with these apps like SetCPU really able to change and or adjust the CPU frequency?
Thanks!!
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Before flashing a custom kernel you have to first flash an insecure boot.IMG. if you want oc. Go to my kernel thread and down load the stockish kernel. Extract the holiday.IMG from the zip and flash it in fastboot.
It may be flashable in recovery selecting the holiday option when the installer asks. After doing this you should be able to flash any oc kernel of your choosing. You only have yo flash the insecure boot.IMG once. Afterwards you shouldn't ever need to do it again.
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Thank you! Didn't see anywhere about having to do that, will try that when I get home today. I'm guessing that after I flash that .IMG I need to reflash the kernel too? The kernels work really good without oc but just wanted to tinker...boy I tell ya, I'm really liking android over windows that's for sure
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lucasryan said:
Thank you! Didn't see anywhere about having to do that, will try that when I get home today. I'm guessing that after I flash that .IMG I need to reflash the kernel too? The kernels work really good without oc but just wanted to tinker...boy I tell ya, I'm really liking android over windows that's for sure
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Well i tried it and it said it flashed, but it is now stuck at the white HTC logo on boot? Do you have a suggestion to fix? Should i just go ahead and flash another rom? If rom, what rom would you suggest me to flash? Thanks
lucasryan said:
Well i tried it and it said it flashed, but it is now stuck at the white HTC logo on boot? Do you have a suggestion to fix? Should i just go ahead and flash another rom? If rom, what rom would you suggest me to flash? Thanks
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You used fastboot flash boot holiday.img ?and then flashed your oc kernel in recovery?
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kozmikkick said:
You used fastboot flash boot holiday.img ?and then flashed your oc kernel in recovery?
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Yes sir that is correct....i went ahead and wiped my data after i couldnt get it boot. So i guess i got to start over now.. I downloaded your pegasus rom, but not to sure how to install rom yet but am working on figuring that out. Do you have instructions to install your rom?
All the other stuff , unlocking bootloader, perm root, and s-off was pretty simple...
lucasryan said:
Yes sir that is correct....i went ahead and wiped my data after i couldnt get it boot. So i guess i got to start over now.. I downloaded your pegasus rom, but not to sure how to install rom yet but am working on figuring that out. Do you have instructions to install your rom?
All the other stuff , unlocking bootloader, perm root, and s-off was pretty simple...
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You just flash my ROM in recovery. I'd advise selecting stockish kernel when asked as the installer can be picky about what recovery you use for kozmikkernel.
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You just flash my ROM in recovery. I'd advise selecting stockish kernel when asked as the installer can be picky about what recovery you use for kozmikkernel.
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Thanks for your help buddy, everything went really smooth.....im loving your rom very much so!!!

S-off achieved.. what now?

Hey.
Managed to s-off my HTC incredible s with revolutionary, All works well and no issues. But what are the bennifits of this? Can I flash any rom made for my incS with out fastbooting the boot.img? I'm confused because some roms still don't boot.
Thanks :thumbup:
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firescotti255 said:
Hey.
Managed to s-off my HTC incredible s with revolutionary, All works well and no issues. But what are the bennifits of this? Can I flash any rom made for my incS with out fastbooting the boot.img? I'm confused because some roms still don't boot.
Thanks :thumbup:
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Yes with Revolutionary S-OFF you will be able to flash custom ROMs while in recovery without needing to manually flash the boot.img in FASTBOOT mode.
There are several reasons why some ROMs may not boot. If you allowed Revolutionary to install Revolutionary CWM recovery, then that is an older version. You may want to install 4EXT touch recovery instead. In other cases, the ROMs have specific wipe instructions that you must follow before you flash the ROM. If you do not follow them, it could cause issues with the ROM.
If you have problems with specific ROMs, then I would search the ROM's thread to see if others have run into the issue or if more detailed process may have been posted based on users' experiences.
Okay thanks, I don't use clockwork mod I had flashed 4EXTRecovery flashed with recovery.img. I will give a look into into it and play with some roms then get back to you. Thanks
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[Q] Stock Rooted Rom?

I've been searching for and unable to find a stock rooted HTC Vivid rom that is flashable. Anyone able to point me in the right direction. I don't want to relock and do the RUU. If there isn't one, what is the most stable custom rom for the Vivid? Currently rooted, S-off, with cyanogen nightly, lost my stock backup somehow. Thanks in advance.
Holics is pretty much similar to stock. Popped it on my girls phone n she likes.
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Nah don't do Holics. Try to find wcx stock rooted rom. I was a beta tester and I can tell you it's one of the best. Everything works and no bugs. The latest update fixed the volume and is now louder than stock. Sad to say wcx shut down for awhile cus he's very sick. But he updated almost every week since vivid was released. So I hope I was of help. U can ask anyone about wcx aka wildchild he's one of the best.
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htc vivid

My question is my HTC vivid is carrier unlocked and I want flash custom Rom. Now if I do this will it relock back to att thanks in adavnc
No. It won't.
thanks and i just flashed the blitz rom and it is bootloopin, so i am downloading a ph39img file hopefully that will get it back to at least working
Is your phone S-ON, the kernel may need to be flashed separately from the rom. This may be the cause of your bootloop?
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