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Hey All
My GF has just brought a galaxy mini so i was planning on rooting it with this method:
Universal Gingerbread Root & Unroot 2.3.3 -> 2.3.7+
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However i have a htc incredible and if you are only rooted you need to flash the boot.img in order to get a rom working. Unless you are S-OFF then you can boot a rom without flashing the boot.img and you can change radios etc.
How does it work over here with the galaxy mini?
Basically i want to;
root the phone
install CWM
Install a rom with decent battery life
If anybody can give me help on the above that would be great
Vizzy

vizzy said:
Hey All
My GF has just brought a galaxy mini so i was planning on rooting it with this method:
Universal Gingerbread Root & Unroot 2.3.3 -> 2.3.7+
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However i have a htc incredible and if you are only rooted you need to flash the boot.img in order to get a rom working. Unless you are S-OFF then you can boot a rom without flashing the boot.img and you can change radios etc.
How does it work over here with the galaxy mini?
Basically i want to;
root the phone
install CWM
Install a rom with decent battery life
If anybody can give me help on the above that would be great
Vizzy
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On mini its much easyer then on htc phones! Just install cwm with odin or install squads cwm touch with stock recovery then install custom rom with cwm recovery! Almost all custom roms are pre rooted so no need to root when you want to install custom rom!!
Good luck buddy happy flashing
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So are you saying I don't need to root the phone. Just cwm and custom roms are the only 2 things I need to do?
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vizzy said:
So are you saying I don't need to root the phone. Just cwm and custom roms are the only 2 things I need to do?
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Yes exactly!!
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That's ridiculous. To root my HTC I had to downgrade my hboot, create a gold card, unlock the bootloader then install cwm and roms. As well as numerous commands on CMD fastboot!
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vizzy said:
That's ridiculous. To root my HTC I had to downgrade my hboot, create a gold card, unlock the bootloader then install cwm and roms. As well as numerous commands on CMD fastboot!
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haha that's really it buddy.. it's so easy on the mini.. fastest way is to flash CWM touch by squadzone via stock recovery, choose a rom and flash it in CWM..

And if you wanted to just root the stock rom, you just install an update.zip (for rooting ofc) file from recovery and thats it. Samsungs are much easier

that why galaxy mini IS THE BEST..ALSO CHEAP PRICE ..

Please work on S-Off hboot 2.02.0002 without using HTCDEV

Hi, guys. I know that some of you are brilliant at making the ways to S-Off the previous Hboot. Currently, the Hboot from official update is 2.02.0002. And I heard that only HTCDEV unlock is the only way to gain root access.
However, I still hope that you guys can kindly work on making other ways beside using HTCdev. Incredible S users will appreciate your kindness.
Thank you.
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The problem is that with HTCDEV unlock the S- remain on ON even the root access is possible (but I have to understand what is the advantage to have S-OFF)

gialandra said:
The problem is that with HTCDEV unlock the S- remain on ON even the root access is possible (but I have to understand what is the advantage to have S-OFF)
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One main thing with s on is that you have to manually fastboot flash boot.img after new roms / kernels
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gialandra said:
The problem is that with HTCDEV unlock the S- remain on ON even the root access is possible (but I have to understand what is the advantage to have S-OFF)
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The advantage of S-OFF???
- you still have warranty ( in order to claim it, u have to re-lock your phone)
- you can flash rom from recovery app
- you can flash rom from recovery without pushing kernerl ( or whole rom dunno) with console.

markj338 said:
One main thing with s on is that you have to manually fastboot flash boot.img after new roms / kernels
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I have install the WE WANT ICS v4 ROM without flashing boot.img and all (seems) works, but maybe is because the previous ROM was the official HTC ICS ROM

gialandra said:
I have install the WE WANT ICS v4 ROM without flashing boot.img and all (seems) works, but maybe is because the previous ROM was the official HTC ICS ROM
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Yeah I think its okay because it had the same kernel
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one request from me too. It would be awesome

+1 for the 2.02 root + s- off utility.
I'd be really happy to see a rooting utility for linux, everything I ve seen so far is in windows.
Keep up the great work guys!
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The new wifi ota update sucks! My phone is not s-off no root only bootloader is unlockt via htcdiv hboot 2.02.002 sense 3.6 help !
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77777777777777 said:
The new wifi ota update sucks! My phone is not s-off no root only bootloader is unlockt via htcdiv hboot 2.02.002 sense 3.6 help !
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With the unlocked bootloader you can flash a custom ROM and then you can flash either SuperSU or su-3.1.3 and give the Sense 3.6 ROM root access.

Thanks !
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S-off for 2.02? Even hboot 1.16 do not have s-off tool.
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zukri90 said:
S-off for 2.02? Even hboot 1.16 do not have s-off tool.
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There is a script that lets you downgrade your 1.16/2.00/2.01 HBOOT to version 1.13 which can then use Revolutionary to gain S-OFF.
The current script uses tacoroot exploit to gain temproot which does not currently work with HBOOT 2.02. That is what this thread discussion is about and in reference to.

Bell hardware vs rogers hardware?

My wife and I both own raiders, originally from rogers..I s-offed both phones and we've been running the dark raider rom since about version 1.2 with no problems..still using wcx recovery as I haven't had any issues with it.
Our friend liked our phones enough to jump ship from blackberry and went and got a used bell raider running official ics. I unlocked his bootloader successfully, s-off worked like a charm, but here it gets weird.
It boot loops after trying to install ANY custom rom..! I tried 3 different recoveries, all of which failed on kernel install.. tried the old way and fastboot flashed the boot.img and still got boot loops or crash to recovery..I'm not new to these procedures..even had hyuh from juopunutbear irc remote in and try his hand at it with the same results.
I restored from bell ics ruu - phone boots normally. What gives? Did bell modify the hardware??
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My buddy has the Rogers Raider (and I have the Bell) and I've done the root/s-off etc. on both of them and there was no difference in workflow needed.
BUT - I think you may have to flash an "insecure" kernel just once to allow your recovery to successfully flash kernels during the ROM install.
Below is the thread where you can download kozmikkick's insecure (aka "stockish") kernel. It's mentioned in the first post of the thread below. Give that kernel a flash (It looks like it is in a ZIP format that you can install via your ClockWorkMod recovery?) then try to flash your desired kernel. If you want to flash the stockish kernel manually, look inside the zip. There is a "holiday.img" file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572015
Also - Not sure if this matters, but I have been using ClockWorkMod v5.5.0.4 recovery and I have been able to flash many roms (and their respective kernels during the rom install)
Good luck!

So, since he's already s-off now and whatnot I can flash the "stockish" kernel you mentioned on his stock rom? Or will I have to try flashing a custom rom along with it? And if so, coming from Bell do you have any rom recommendations? I'm a fan of the dark raider rom personally.
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Getting a 404 not found on your link..
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Nvm searched the forum and found it..still wondering if I can flash it on stock bell ics tho.
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bproulx said:
Nvm searched the forum and found it..still wondering if I can flash it on stock bell ics tho.
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Sorry bout the link.
I'm not sure if it will work with stock... my assumption would be yes because its called "stockish"... but I dont know. I say wait until you're ready to flash a custom rom before you try it. So - flash the stockish kernel (i prefer via fastboot), then reboot right into recovery, then flash rom... and see if it all went ok?
You have the stock Bell RUU, so if anything goes wrong, you can fall back on that.
Right now I'm on the Pure Velocity rom... loving it.

Omg..ok tried the method u posted with kozmik "stockish"..but got looped at boot... But the rom I was installing had an option to install an unsecured at&t stock boot image and that, of all things, did the trick. What u said made me think to try it.
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bproulx said:
Omg..ok tried the method u posted with kozmik "stockish"..but got looped at boot... But the rom I was installing had an option to install an unsecured at&t stock boot image and that, of all things, did the trick. What u said made me think to try it.
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So... after you got that going, were you then able to flash a rom with a custom kernel (all in one shot?)

Yes. After flashing the kozmik "stockish" kernel, then the custom rom, booting and getting as far as "android is upgrading" before boot looping I figured why not flash the entire thing again this time with the proper kernel and it went perfectly. I was using cwm5.5.0.4 for the record..which I'm told is still the best. My friend was happy, and I was just glad it worked this time..I was so confused why the Bell version wouldn't take the software..!
As always, I found the answer right here on XDA. Thanks again!
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bproulx said:
Yes. After flashing the kozmik "stockish" kernel, then the custom rom, booting and getting as far as "android is upgrading" before boot looping I figured why not flash the entire thing again this time with the proper kernel and it went perfectly. I was using cwm5.5.0.4 for the record..which I'm told is still the best. My friend was happy, and I was just glad it worked this time..I was so confused why the Bell version wouldn't take the software..!
As always, I found the answer right here on XDA. Thanks again!
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Mint
I like when things work !!!
Happy romming

What is hboot?

So I've had my phone for over a year now, am s-off and flashed numerous ROMs, but not quite sure what the hboot is? I am s-off via alpha rev and currently running 4ext recovery touch. I have hboot 1.09.1000, but some new ROMs are saying I need blackrose to flash, especially tpblake's new ROMs. Is this the case as not really keen on changing my hboot, considering I don't even know what it is!
Thanks in advance from a rather sheepish member
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VaderXI said:
So I've had my phone for over a year now, am s-off and flashed numerous ROMs, but not quite sure what the hboot is? I am s-off via alpha rev and currently running 4ext recovery touch. I have hboot 1.09.1000, but some new ROMs are saying I need blackrose to flash, especially tpblake's new ROMs. Is this the case as not really keen on changing my hboot, considering I don't even know what it is!
Thanks in advance from a rather sheepish member
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In your case, the AlphaRevX HBOOT 1.09.1000 is what is allowing your phone to be S-OFF. Another term for HBOOT is the bootloader.
In your case, you are running a modified bootloader that has the SECURITY_FLAG turned OFF, thus the acronym S-OFF.

Can I flash with this or should I update to blackrose as you say in your ROM thread
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VaderXI said:
Can I flash with this or should I update to blackrose as you say in your ROM thread
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You can flash most of the custom ROMs with your current HBOOT just fine. You could easily upgrade to BlackRose just fine without losing anything. It is really up to you. What do you want to flash?

Yours!
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tpbklake said:
You can flash most of the custom ROMs with your current HBOOT just fine. You could easily upgrade to BlackRose just fine without losing anything. It is really up to you. What do you want to flash?
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VaderXI said:
Yours!
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Yes then you will need to upgrade your HBOOT to BlackRose in order to flash the stock, rooted ICS ROMs I have posted.
Go read the BlackRose link I posted on the stock, rooted ICS ROM thread.

tpbklake said:
Yes then you will need to upgrade your HBOOT to BlackRose in order to flash the stock, rooted ICS ROMs I have posted.
Go read the BlackRose link I posted on the stock, rooted ICS ROM thread.
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Yep all installing blackrose involves, provided that you have set up for it is for you to click on the .exe and it does it all for you. I for one was amazed by the simplicity when I finally flashed it yesterday. Not much to be scared of (I was a bit scared of playing with partitions and hboots)
#my2cents

[Q] CM10 Nightly no overclock?

this maybe a dumb question, but i'm still learning. I'm running the CM10 nightly roms and i've noticed that the max clock speed is 1188, is there no way to overclock the vivid?
Can you overclock with the Pac-man rom?

Aerpelding said:
this maybe a dumb question, but i'm still learning. I'm running the CM10 nightly roms and i've noticed that the max clock speed is 1188, is there no way to overclock the vivid?
Can you overclock with the Pac-man rom?
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Has to do with the Kernel... if you use the kernel that Homeslice made than you can over clock on CM10, in other words it is not rom specific it is kernel specific.
Should be able to find the Homeslice kernel in the PAC-Man thread.

esloan said:
Has to do with the Kernel... if you use the kernel that Homeslice made than you can over clock on CM10, in other words it is not rom specific it is kernel specific.
Should be able to find the Homeslice kernel in the PAC-Man thread.
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Thank you, another dumb question though. Do you just flash the kernel the same way you flash gapps with the Rom in recovery? And this can be done at any time?

Depends on if your device is s-off or not. S-off = same as gapps. S-on there are about three different ways to do it.

esloan said:
Depends on if your device is s-off or not. S-off = same as gapps. S-on there are about three different ways to do it.
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Unfortunately, I'm s-on...

Can anyone point me in the direction how to flash a kernel with S-on?
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Aerpelding said:
Can anyone point me in the direction how to flash a kernel with S-on?
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Use the all-in-one toolkit in the development section
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Or since your rooted download the flashimage GUI.apk (free in our themes and app section) and use that app
Here's a link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20926830
We should look into seeing if we can somehow make a script and add it in a Rom that would do this while flashing...I'm sure its possible, just gotta add the files then add the commands to the updater script -this would eliminate the difficulty for s-on users
Tomorrow ill look into it since I get out of school early (10 am ) and have no work tomorrow
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That's not like the HTC dumlock thing is it? A script would make things a lot easier for s-on ppl
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ZeRo2o9 said:
That's not like the HTC dumlock thing is it? A script would make things a lot easier for s-on ppl
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I don't think that they'll be able to push a full boot.img through recovery while s-on, however they may be able to push the zImage, which should be all that's necessary for kernel changes anyway. So the script would have to disassemble the boot.img and flash the zImage. I don't know for sure if s-on can flash zImages through recovery or not though. At the least, we could force it to reboot to bootloader after flashing so it's waiting for fastboot flash, or we could pack the boot.img in a ph39img.zip that would flash in bootloader? That wouldn't be too bad (or would that need s-off too????).

Idk..I'm gonna decompile the app and see how it actually works after school
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Has anyone used the HTC vivid S-OFF tool kit from the same guy who made the all in one tool kit?
What's the process for making my device s-off? Do I have to reflash recovery and my rom again after or can I just do the s-off process and reboot?
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