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T-Mobile GS2 or Nexus Galaxy or something else?

I recently got an offer from T-Mobile and I got a free gs2 should I Keep it or should I sell it to buy a Galaxy Nexus? Im also thinking of switching to a Nokia WP7 been a long time Nokia Fan hardware but I'm confused as hell what would you guys do?
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Try it out, see if you like it. I tried it out at the store, but it felt too big. The Galaxy Nexus might be the same size, but I hated the resolution on the GS2. 480x800 spread out on a 4.5in screen is so ugly. It feels like I should be able to put so much more stuff on it, especially since I was coming from my loaner Sensation, which has a 4.3in qHD screen. I honestly see no reason to buy the GS2 over the G-Nex, unless price is a factor.
Former Nexus One owner.

Galaxy nexus definitely. Nothing beats being the first (sometimes only for many months) to get OS updates. The HD resolution is a significant plus as well.
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dnlsmy said:
Try it out, see if you like it. I tried it out at the store, but it felt too big. The Galaxy Nexus might be the same size, but I hated the resolution on the GS2. 480x800 spread out on a 4.5in screen is so ugly. It feels like I should be able to put so much more stuff on it, especially since I was coming from my loaner Sensation, which has a 4.3in qHD screen. I honestly see no reason to buy the GS2 over the G-Nex, unless price is a factor.
Former Nexus One owner.
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I actually used for a bit like 3 hrs I found it to be a great phone compared to my N1 but I felt like it was missing something I couldn't pointed out it felt so simple I think the hardware felt played out but I been spoiled by nice materials. as far as the price I think if its over 600 bucks is a no go for me is too much for a phone that might be old specs in the middle of 2012.
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Galaxy nexus definitely. Nothing beats being the first (sometimes only for many months) to get OS updates. The HD resolution is a significant plus as well. I think I lean more on the Nexus been able to tether for free and been unbranded and unlock. but lately T-mobile service has been giving me crap about updating my data I hope this doesnt happen with the New Nexus
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As far a price is concerned I'm expecting the GSM version to be 529 off-contract like the previous Nexus phones.
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SGS2 wins on hardware. Galaxy Nexus wins on software. What do you like better?

I'm looking at the Amaze 4G and the Galaxy Nexus. I'm leaning more towards Galaxy Nexus.

bleach168 said:
SGS2 wins on hardware. Galaxy Nexus wins on software. What do you like better?
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lolwat.

ksocoolwitit said:
I'm looking at the Amaze 4G and the Galaxy Nexus. I'm leaning more towards Galaxy Nexus.
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The amaze 4g looks amazing too bad I can't see my self dealing with Sense.
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SGS2 wins on hardware. Galaxy Nexus wins on software. What do you like better?
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I think the galaxy has this premium look with the HD display and the curved glass as far as the TI Omap processor vs the Exinos I have no idea what would perform better but I know the GS2 from TMo carries the same processor as the amaze.

Just go for the galaxy nexus. I'm sure you won't regret it. The software was optimized for the hardware plus the timely updates won't give you headaches. Wait for the reviews though.

Do you guys think it will be released soon before January or you guys think that verizon will get the exclusive for a few months? I don't think I can wait LOL

They haven't announced anything for US GSM carriers so I would think this will be at last a 2 month exclusivity. By then the source will be released so I doubt I would be able to buy a T-Mo version before trying ICS on my N1.

If you're not bothered about which carrier you're on then I would seriously consider a droid RAZR instead of either of those two. I know technically its worse than both but there's something really high quality in the feel of Moto's new UI that I just can't quite put my finger on and it wouldn't be a huge wait until ICS either (I think it'll probably get it before GSII). Anyway thats just my own humble opinion, consider or ignore it as you wish.
Also it's probably worth me pointing out that I do live in the UK so things like carrier decisions and multiple GSII variants simply are not a concern here. We have one GSII and its on every carrier. Nearly all phones here are on every carrier. Just thought I'd add that in there.

You Think Google Will Choose Asus Again?

I don't think so, this whole defect thing definitely left a stain on the Nexus brand.
When you think Nexus, you think perfect.
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I can almost guarantee there were more devices that were perfect versus those that had issues. Plus Googles time frame for start to finish was a little ridiculous.
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No chance in hell they use crappy Asus again. I'd put money on it.
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Maybe they'll change up the way they release a new product through the Google Play store. The whole bit with people being able to get them through retail channels faster than the preorders was a disaster. I hope they stay with Asus, if they can learn from their mistakes. I'm sure it's a pretty steep learning curve for the manufacturing and QC guys for any new product line.

Yes. I think most of ASUS problems are with it's initial batch of tablets. After about a month things seem to smooth out. So I'll probably do my best to hold out a month next time. But that's so hard for me because I'm impatient too.

GeneralCrocket said:
I don't think so, this whole defect thing definitely left a stain on the Nexus brand.
When you think Nexus, you think perfect.
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There's threads like yours in the galaxy nexus forums saying the exact same thing but about Samsung and how google should choose another company. All these companies will have their own problems. The nexus like is not perfect and not meant to be, its where google test its new android builds.

I'm really surprised to hear about all the quality issues with the Nexus, it's pretty disappointing . I have the OG Transformer and I LOVE it, it's been amazing.

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I can almost guarantee there were more devices that were perfect versus those that had issues. Plus Googles time frame for start to finish was a little ridiculous.
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I agree with the time frame being ridiculous, but I don't know about most devices being perfect considering how many people are going through multiple replacements with defects. It'd be different if the first replacements everyone got were perfect, but I see a lot of people settling on units with relatively minor defects because they fear that their 4th replacement will be worse than their 3rd. I love my Nexus 7, but even I'm settling on the minor defects that it has (minor screen separation and multitouch issue) because I'm afraid that a replacement would be much worse.

No matter which OEM Google uses in the future, there will always be unhappy people. My device is rock solid and defect free.
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Classic mistake... Listening to a vocal few instead of noting the happy silence of the overwhelming majority of satisfied customers.
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You know, I really can't say. We know of EVERY little problem the N7 has because we come to this forum. But I think Google has had and expects stuff like this, with any company.
I've had 2 Asus Android tablets, and both have problems. The N7 has very slight screen lift ( no big deal to me) and that's it. My Transformer Prime had shot GPS, crappy WiFi, and buggy software....BUT, I love what they do. The Transformer line is one of a kind beast, and the N7 is even better. First 10" Tegra 3 tablet with keyboard dock style, First 7" Tegra 3 tablet with JB...for $199 to top it off So I think I am willing to take chances to stay on the newest/ hottest gear...and Asus has that gear. So I'd say Google should give Asus another shot if they can fill their needs.

To be fair, screen Flickr is because of the tegra 3 (it is an issue with teg3 HTC ONE X's; screen color problems = defects from the screen manufacturers (LG, SHARP, SONY,not Asus)... Same issues in OneX/XL/S's with varying hue and color temp.
Screen edge coming up or slightly moving.... Because it's not glued in, making it easier to service... Pop off the backing and tighten the damn screws.
Some people have the slightest issues and return items blowing the issue excessively out of proportion... Some of these people are also the most vocal on forums.
Ultimately the returns/exchanges are less than 1% of total units sold and happens to every device. Let's remember when the Xoom first came out... Anyone? Lol

GeneralCrocket said:
I don't think so, this whole defect thing
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Errm, what "defect thing"...
Or are you one of these unfortunate people that have no concept of perspective and context?

Bonekeep said:
Classic mistake... Listening to a vocal few instead of noting the happy silence of the overwhelming majority of satisfied customers.
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Ding ding ding.
And even for those with defects, they aren't exploding, they aren't catching on fire. They just didn't use enough glue on one single side. Not a big deal.

As a rather funny note, all the ASUS preorder hate seems irrelevant in Germany where the device isn't even available yet at all.
Sometimes, Google is way too USA.

neotekz said:
There's threads like yours in the galaxy nexus forums saying the exact same thing but about Samsung and how google should choose another company. All these companies will have their own problems. The nexus like is not perfect and not meant to be, its where google test its new android builds.
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i agree.
my vote is for yes. if google releases a nexus10, i bet asus will build it

When the Galaxy Nexus was released when it connected to 2G networks the volume would automatically decrease, do you think Google have scratched Samsung off their list too?

Why not? Asus are a wonderful manufacturer.
My Nexus 7 is perfect and my Samsung Galaxy Nexus is, too. I was worried about my products after reading these forums and I was constantly having to check for defects just to make myself feel better and then I realised how silly that is. Headaches over nothing, because a small minority are incredibly vocal!
I am always behind Asus after using their motherboards/monitors and enjoying my previous TF101 tablet.
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4 months to production is unheard of in this market. They gave us something cheap, fast, and good, so I am hoping Asus becomes the 'go to' manufacture for nexus tablet's.
Looking forward to November's nexus devices, and hope Asus is putting together a bigger tablet with a keyboard (2560x1600)
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I hope this spurs Google to start using their Motorola facilities to produce devices with nothing but 'nexus' etched into the back.
These OEMs with their disgraceful reskins, false promises of support, and either shoddy or overpriced hardware. They deserve nothing more.
It would also settle the patent war.
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When the Galaxy Nexus was released when it connected to 2G networks the volume would automatically decrease, do you think Google have scratched Samsung off their list too?
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Sounds like a software thing.

Received Nexus.......Selling this week. Nexus VS TAB 2 7 3G

I have been going around and around with these devices. I got the TAB 2 7 P3100 3G from the wife for Christmas after researching both. I could not make up my mind and Christmas was coming quickly so I asked her for the more expensive P3100 (LOL) and I already have a samsung device in the Note 2.
But was still very interested in the Nexus since I have been reading nothing but great things about it. Now this may not be a fair comparison because the TAB is a 3G device that is invisible to my carrier ATT. However I will put that aside and share my impressions after playing with the Nexus solely for the last day and a half.
When I initially put the TAB 2 next to my Note, my jaw dropped at the "washed out" colors on the TAB compared to the Note 2. This lit the Nexus fire and I had to get one now especially since I read and heard nothing but great things about the Nexus screen, When I saw a One day only sale at the Adorama Store on Ebay on New Years day for $229 shipped I jumped at it and ordered an accessories package on Ebay (which has yet to arrive). I immediately put the TAB on Ebay for a high "Buy It Now only price (in the "unlikely" event i would not like the Nexus 7) I am glad now no one bought it after playing with the Nexus over the past couple days.
Initially I loved the all black look of the Nexus with the screen off vs the framed TAB. (small meaningless detail) I also appreciated the slightly narrower form factor and feel of the back cover. The glass was perfect. No build issues here. Looked great although I am not the type who "wears" my phones and devices. I use them.
I immediately unlocked it, flashed a custom recovery and flashed ParanoidAndroid on it. Very nice. I played with it for a day or so. This afternoon I finally I put the TAB side by side with the Nexus and found the Nexus was faster but not all that much. Not enough to say "wow" Certainly not as much as I thought it would be.
What stopped me in my tracks and gave me major pause was when I put the same picture up on the Nexus I initially compared with my Note 2 and had all three side by side. The Note was still much better. No suprise there. But this time the TAB and Nexus were very much the same. The Nexus was not as I had expected. The colors were not nearly as saturated as the Note and in fact almost identical to the TAB on all screen brightness settings In fact I could not tell them apart from a color saturation standpoint. I could however appreciate the denser pixel count on the Nexus when zooming in especially. But Needless to say i expected a much much better screen color quality and much much closer to the Note 2 in color quality. The Note 2 screen is amazing I guess.
USB OTG worked great on both but I don't need it on the TAB with 70GB of usable storage. vs <30GB. I initially had issue with the 64GB card in the TAB which pushed me into the nexus as well early on. But that has been solved. That along with the 3G and phone abilities of the TAB leading me to decide the TAB was the better of the two to keep for my needs.
Initially I thought the choices of ROMs the Nexus development community offered would be a plus but I usually find one ROM and stick with it. I can always get the CM 10 and AKOP ROMS for the TAB along with the TW ROMs.
The front camera on the Nexus is not as good as the rear camera on the TAB although the difference was about as much as the front cameras between the TAB and Nexus. All of them are nothing special. (although I am old enough to remember when 3MB camera was a great addition to a phone!!)
The thing I did like about the Nexus is the USB port but I have loaded up with Samsung "proprietary" USB Cables
and OTG accessories.
All that said the TAN IS A 3g devices and a phone. IF The TAB were the US non 3G model the decision would be much harder. But I would likely lean in its direction because I am used to Samsungs recovery and download modes (although Fastboot took all of 30 seconds to figure out) I expected a whole lot more from the color density and the screen on the Nexus, At the end of the day the additional storage along with the camera possibilities won me over. I am not a gamer so the quad core would likely not be a factor although I did run Need for Speed on the TAb to test it initially and it ran fine.
This is not a knock on the Nexus. It is a great device and for the money the best on paper. but for me anyway the difference were not enough to give up the advantages of the extra storage and free phone and 3G capability, which I could have done anyway using the Note as a hot spot with the Nexus,

Of course the colors will be washed out in comparison... Nothing beats super amoled
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korockinout13 said:
Of course the colors will be washed out in comparison... Nothing beats super amoled
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Quoted cause its the truth.

korockinout13 said:
Of course the colors will be washed out in comparison... Nothing beats super amoled
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Yeah I really didn't pay much attention to the screen specs. I assumed the Nexus would be much better than the TAB likely because of the Pixel density if nothing else. I think if Google/Asus would have put ExtSD capability, headset microphone, and maybe even a better front camera, I would keep the Nexus for the form factor alone.
Once all the 360 case and the rest of the Nexus candy gets here I will throw it all up on Ebay. Thankfully there are AKOP ROMS available for the Samsung.

tbong777 said:
Yeah I really didn't pay much attention to the screen specs. I assumed the Nexus would be much better than the TAB likely because of the Pixel density if nothing else. I think if Google/Asus would have put ExtSD capability, headset microphone, and maybe even a better front camera, I would keep the Nexus for the form factor alone.
Once all the 360 case and the rest of the Nexus candy gets here I will throw it all up on Ebay. Thankfully there are AKOP ROMS available for the Samsung.
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Just be lucky you weren't like me.
Bought the Acer iconia a110, was cheap and had similar specs to n7 with hdmi out and sdcard slot.
Played with it for a bit....turned out it wasn't for me. Screen looked terrible, it weighed quite abit more than my 7, brought it back (was an 8gb model) to find the nexus 7 calling my name. I bought the 32gb model with no regrets, great device for the price in my opinion.
Edit : I always see people are complaining about the n7 not having a back camera, seriously a tablet is no device meant for mad photography. Get a nikkon or some **** lol. Front camera is 'OK' Good enough for my Skype calls with my lady :thumbup:
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I wouldn't have minded a back camera on the N7 for Skype. My wife travels a lot and when we Skype I use my phone so I can flip back and forth on the cameras so she can see our baby playing and generally being cute. I could also imagine in the business world it would be useful to show clients whatever in a video conference call. Even if it was a cheap 2.0 megapixel camera, that would have been fine.
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I think the N7 is a great tablet, one of the best and considered the best by some users. You can run almost any app/game without any lag and if you overclock the cpu, it will be even more powerful. First, I wanted to buy a more expensive device, but I looked over N7's performance and price and this was my final choice. I don't regret it!

Lol I hope you are okay with waiting forever for a new update and having your device stop being updated after about a year. Sorry but its just the cold hard truth. We will keep getting updates as son as they are released for quite a while but Samsung has quite a reputation for slacking on updates and dropping devices soon after release.
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Nice review, but you left out one of the most important aspects of any comparison: price. You make it sound like the Tab and the N7 are on equal footing in almost all aspects, but when one costs almost twice what the other costs and you leave that fact out, you are doing a disservice to the readers. On that basis, this is not a fair comparison. I bought the N7 over the Tab 2 because I didn't want or need 3G and I didn't want or need to spend close to $500 for what I wanted a tablet for. When I compared all the specs and credible reviews, the N7 was perfect for my needs and budget. It has not disappointed.

The p3100 runs on your att, which is great. Swap Sims and you're good to go. Since this is the GSM you have a lot more Dev support than the CDMA variant. AOKP is there as well as CM. They have it oc to 1.4 as well. If this suits your needs then run with it, more power to you. I like to stay on the newest builds, that's why I chose what I did. After having many phones by HTC and Samsung and constantly having to choose what I can live without (newest build, working camera, reboots, etc.) I bought a galaxy nexus so I don't constantly wait on manufacturer and carrier hold ups (like my note skyrocket evo, evo 3D) and I am happy. Which is why I went with the nexus 7. When I first saw the HTC jetstream and Samsung note 10.1 I had the itch to buy them. Luckily I didn't, the jetstream is and will forever be on honeycomb and there hasn't been any major Dev work for a year. If you don't need to have the latest and greatest as soon as you can get your paws on it then go with the tab, I would have huge regrets if I chose the one that may not get the next release.
Anyways that's my 2¢ either way you can't go wrong if that is what suits your needs in a 7".
On a side note, you can always eBay your note and tab and get the 3g note 10.1 just food for thought
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QUOTE=AFAinHD;36401781]Lol I hope you are okay with waiting forever for a new update and having your device stop being updated after about a year. Sorry but its just the cold hard truth. We will keep getting updates as son as they are released for quite a while but Samsung has quite a reputation for slacking on updates and dropping devices soon after release.
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You can't be serious. There are nightlies available for the Galaxy Tab as well from CyanogenMod and Milestone. I have never had a device where I'd depended on the manufacturer for updates. Always went with developers. And sometimes the updates are not all that good I would never downloaded the OTA 4.2 update on my Nexus 7 after running it on the tab in having all kinds of Bluetooth issues. The first thing it wanted to do when I fired it up was download that update. I did not selective it. I'll let the new user decide.
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Nice review, but you left out one of the most important aspects of any comparison: price. You make it sound like the Tab and the N7 are on equal footing in almost all aspects, but when one costs almost twice what the other costs and you leave that fact out, you are doing a disservice to the readers. On that basis, this is not a fair comparison. I bought the N7 over the Tab 2 because I didn't want or need 3G and I didn't want or need to spend close to $500 for what I wanted a tablet for. When I compared all the specs and credible reviews, the N7 was perfect for my needs and budget. It has not disappointed.
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I completely agree and I mentioned that but on the face of it the Galaxy Tab 7 without 3g would still be a better choice for me for the reasons I indicated. But I only spent $350 dollars for the Tab 3G. Nowhere near $500. I read a lot of reviews and read this area of X DA, for a long time and decided I needed to have them both in front of me to make a decision. Which took about 2 days.
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The p3100 runs on your att, which is great. Swap Sims and you're good to go. Since this is the GSM you have a lot more Dev support than the CDMA variant. AOKP is there as well as CM. They have it oc to 1.4 as well. If this suits your needs then run with it, more power to you. I like to stay on the newest builds, that's why I chose what I did. After having many phones by HTC and Samsung and constantly having to choose what I can live without (newest build, working camera, reboots, etc.) I bought a galaxy nexus so I don't constantly wait on manufacturer and carrier hold ups (like my note skyrocket evo, evo 3D) and I am happy. Which is why I went with the nexus 7. When I first saw the HTC jetstream and Samsung note 10.1 I had the itch to buy them. Luckily I didn't, the jetstream is and will forever be on honeycomb and there hasn't been any major Dev work for a year. If you don't need to have the latest and greatest as soon as you can get your paws on it then go with the tab, I would have huge regrets if I chose the one that may not get the next release.
Anyways that's my 2¢ either way you can't go wrong if that is what suits your needs in a 7".
On a side note, you can always eBay your note and tab and get the 3g note 10.1 just food for thought
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Oh I thought about that Note, 3G 10.1 but I don't want to carry around a tablet that big I bought one of those for my wife for Christmas as a musician she can use it for the playback tracks or sheet music and replace little Acer she's currently using or at least have a good Backup. I would love to see the Note come in a 6 inch phone version. I wouldn't need both the tablet and phone. In the meantime there's no way I would get rid of the Note 2.
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You can't be serious. There are nightlies available for the Galaxy Tab as well from CyanogenMod and Milestone. I have never had a device where I'd depended on the manufacturer for updates. Always went with developers. And sometimes the updates are not all that good I would never downloaded the OTA 4.2 update on my Nexus 7 after running it on the tab in having all kinds of Bluetooth issues. The first thing it wanted to do when I fired it up was download that update. I did not selective it. I'll let the new user decide.
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that's not what i'm saying. We own a flagship device. Not only do we get the updates instantly, google releases the updates on their website with source so developers can make roms with ease. Its a lot easier to make a ROM for the latest update when google has given you the newest update source code already optimized for your device on a silver platter.
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It sounds like you've already thought of all the different angles, and your mind's made up. Like I said fortunately it's not the CDMA version, my friend bought one and there really isn't any Dev love for that thing. Enjoy your tab 2!
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I used to have the galaxy tab 2 7.0. Had a kernel for it and everything. Unfortunately it was by far the slowest device i had ever used. Slower than my S2 single core HTC incredible and the graphics performance was pretty bad too. CM helped by fixing the graphics drivers and eliminating TW bloat, but it didnt help enough to make me happy with it.
But if you enjoy the Tab2 then go ahead and keep it and enjoy it. Don't let these N7 fanboys phase you
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I used to have the galaxy tab 2 7.0. Had a kernel for it and everything. Unfortunately it was by far the slowest device i had ever used. Slower than my S2 single core HTC incredible and the graphics performance was pretty bad too. CM helped by fixing the graphics drivers and eliminating TW bloat, but it didnt help enough to make me happy with it.
But if you enjoy the Tab2 then go ahead and keep it and enjoy it. Don't let these N7 fanboys phase you
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I'm a google fanboy, being a fanboy of the nexus is just a side effect. Get it right.
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I'm a google fanboy, being a fanboy of the nexus is just a side effect. Get it right.
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A true Google fanboy is a nexus fanboy.
And a true nexus fanboy is a nexus 7 fanboy
And vice-versa.
So one implies the other assuming "true" fanboyism.
Checkmate.

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A true Google fanboy is a nexus fanboy.
And a true nexus fanboy is a nexus 7 fanboy
And vice-versa.
So one implies the other assuming "true" fanboyism.
Checkmate.
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Just because your a nexus 7 fanboy doesn't mean you are a google fanboy. U can like the tablet and not google.
I win
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Just because your a nexus 7 fanboy doesn't mean you are a google fanboy. U can like the tablet and not google.
I win
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Wouldn't that make you an Asus fanboy
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Nexus 4 Backlash

I'm really not understanding why so many people dislike the Nexus 4. Is it due to the terrible launch? And why keep comparing it to the Galaxy S3? Vanilla Android and Touchwiz both have their ups and downs. Lack of LTE really shouldnt be an issue unless you are on Verizon. For $350 (including tax of course ) you get a phone with a quadcore processor,Adreno 320 GPU, fully unlocked, and timely updates. Not to mention the amount of money you wiuld save getting a prepaid service no contract.
Sorry if I made a few mistakes. This is my first post in this forum and just received my Nexus 4. Any advice would be helpful for future threads.

jlbanks said:
I'm really not understanding why so many people dislike the Nexus 4. Is it due to the terrible launch? And why keep comparing it to the Galaxy S3? Vanilla Android and Touchwiz both have their ups and downs. Lack of LTE really shouldnt be an issue unless you are on Verizon. For $350 (including tax of course ) you get a phone with a quadcore processor,Adreno 320 GPU, fully unlocked, and timely updates. Not to mention the amount of money you wiuld save getting a prepaid service no contract.
Sorry if I made a few mistakes. This is my first post in this forum and just received my Nexus 4. Any advice would be helpful for future threads.
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I don't think you're gonna find anyone who dislikes the Nexus 4 here bro

jlbanks said:
I'm really not understanding why so many people dislike the Nexus 4. Is it due to the terrible launch? And why keep comparing it to the Galaxy S3? Vanilla Android and Touchwiz both have their ups and downs. Lack of LTE really shouldnt be an issue unless you are on Verizon. For $350 (including tax of course ) you get a phone with a quadcore processor,Adreno 320 GPU, fully unlocked, and timely updates. Not to mention the amount of money you wiuld save getting a prepaid service no contract.
Sorry if I made a few mistakes. This is my first post in this forum and just received my Nexus 4. Any advice would be helpful for future threads.
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I have a note 2, gs3, gs2, galaxy nexus, droid RAZR, iPhone 5, and a nexus 4. Guess which one is my favorite? The nexus 4!!
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No not here. I see it in numerous forums and threads. People bash the nexus 4 before they bash the S3. Its being compared to the S4 and that phone hasn't even came out yet!
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I don't know, people like to nitpick. My problem with the Nexus 4 is the same as the Galaxy Nexus I previously owned, its never 100% perfect, even after an RMA, there is still a bit of black light bleeding, a little bit of this, and a little bit of that, my wireless charging orb stopped working, had to RMA that, and so on, the Nexus line to me has always had some flaws in terms of hardware reliability.
That being said, the Nexus 4 is among the most beautiful phones, up there with the high end Xperia phones, and with amazing hardware, so asides from the hardware imperfections that one might encounter if unlucky, its a great phone.
I cannot think of a single phone other than the new Xperia (if aosp) that is coming out that I would trade my Nexus 4 for.

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No not here. I see it in numerous forums and threads. People bash the nexus 4 before they bash the S3. Its being compared to the S4 and that phone hasn't even came out yet!
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People bash it because they don't have it
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People bash it because they don't have it
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you just might be right sir. This is actually my first nexus device. I honestly was really close in getting the S3 until I saw this technological beauty being demoed at a local T-Mobile store. I swear I heard the phone calling my name lol. I immediately forgot all about the S3 and purchased the N4 full price.

Where is this so called backlash at?
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Well maybe not a backlash, but numerous threads and forums bash the nexus 4 as if Google completely messed up the device. Lack of LTE, lack of storage, glass back (guess they forgot about the "rave" reviews about iPhone 4 hardware), phone isn't thin enough, etc. CNET gave the phone a 3.5 out of 5 while S3 got a 4 out of 5. They gave the Galaxy Nexus a 5 out of 5 and the N4 is a complete upgrade! So a removable battery on Galaxy Nexus makes it perfect?
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Well maybe not a backlash, but numerous threads and forums bash the nexus 4 as if Google completely messed up the device. Lack of LTE, lack of storage, glass back (guess they forgot about the "rave" reviews about iPhone 4 hardware), phone isn't thin enough, etc. CNET gave the phone a 3.5 out of 5 while S3 got a 4 out of 5. They gave the Galaxy Nexus a 5 out of 5 and the N4 is a complete upgrade! So a removable battery on Galaxy Nexus makes it perfect?
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Don't pay attention to ***** ratings.. Nothing but a popularity contest.. Read the conclusions and see if the `cons' are anything you deem a problem. They focused on lack of LTE which is a legit gripe no matter how you spin it and how well HSPA+ works.. It is a technology that is sort expected now a days. But.. Unless it personally affects you.. Then it doesn't matter..
They also focused on calling it "uninspiring" "not expanding the Nexus brand".. That's when I stop taking them seriously.. When reviewers start getting all Martha Stewart on you.. It's time to stop reading.

It is just not flawless: back glass, which can crack in any day, noise from earpiece, non-vibrant screen - these spoil impression from the phone. It is my first nexus devise (I had xperia Ion before it) and I expected much more from it. I still haven't decided which one to sell - Nexus or Ion. Ion is flawless except that hardware quite old.

And that's what makes the difference between the nexus 4 and everything else. It will constantly get updates before any other phone. I can totally understand the glass back being fragile.
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I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy with this being my first nexus device. But honestly where else are you going to find an unlocked top tier phone with high end specs for $300. Put in perspective, a galaxy note 2 costs $299 with a two year contract. That's not even the full price of actual phone which is over $600. Over $600 for a phone that may or may not get Key Lime Pie. The nexus is guaranteed to get it and faster than anybody else.
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Have the thermal throttling issues been resolved since launch?

jlbanks said:
I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy with this being my first nexus device. But honestly where else are you going to find an unlocked top tier phone with high end specs for $300. Put in perspective, a galaxy note 2 costs $299 with a two year contract. That's not even the full price of actual phone which is over $600. Over $600 for a phone that may or may not get Key Lime Pie. The nexus is guaranteed to get it and faster than anybody else.
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For me it doesn't matter how much it costs - I could buy iphone 5, but I don't like iOS. Price is just a good bonus. Having top hardware specs is good, but will not you feel disappointed if your back glass is cracked? And this state of waiting and checking if it is cracked or not... I hate being in situation like this. Maybe in some time I will stop thinking of this. Will not you be disappointed if you had another device with worse specs, but with so much better display?

That's a good question...
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I'm not saying cost should be a factor, but rather value. Look at what u get for such a low cost. I can understand the glass back being an issue. But I'd rather have the back shatter then the display itself. Luckily I have a case. Either way I would be disappointed. But which would really tick u off, shattering a phone $700 or shattering a phone $300?
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Have the thermal throttling issues been resolved since launch?
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I'm not sure as of yet. From what I've read it hasnt been that much of an issue unless you're doing extreme multitasking. So far Ive played Need for Speed Most Wanted while listening to music and it hasnt shut down yet. It does heat up though but not bad enough to shut the entire phone down.

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But which would really tick u off, shattering a phone $700 or shattering a phone $300?
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I spent 475$ for 16 GB version - that is its price in the UK. And i spent about 100$ for different accessories for it (skins, cases, etc). Maybe if lived in US and bought it for 300 I would have a different opinion

On the fence

So I am on the fence. I currently have the s3 and I am trying to hold out with the mindset that Sammy will release some updates in the near future that will smooth this puppy out a little more ( less dropped frames) and bring some of the software enhancements found in the s4. I have been wanting the s4 since before its release today I found what I think to be a killer deal. A girl in my area on craiglist has a new in the box s4 and she is asking 400 for it. By far the cheapest I have seen on craiglist to date. My big too is that my contract is up and I really don't want to renew it cause I am also thinking of switching providers as sprints 3g data speeds and coverage is real shotty in Vegas. What are your guys thoughts is it really worth the upgrade?
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I upgraded from the s3 and while I dont think its a huge update, I totally love the screen. Its so crisp and bright. I used my mom's upgrade since she wanted my s3 but if I didnt have the option, i would of just waited til next year to upgrade

I traded my S3 into Best Buy and got $262.50 the had them price match Amazon on the S4 for $599. So I paid $385 off contract after tax. The phone is great and I still have my upgrade on July 1st still.
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I traded my S3 into Best Buy and got $262.50 the had them price match Amazon on the S4 for $599. So I paid $385 off contract after tax. The phone is great and I still have my upgrade on July 1st still.
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That's a really good idea. The other route I was thinking of going is getting the 400 dollar one of craiglist then trying to sell mine for 300 that way I am only put of pocket 100 and stiff have no contract.
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cas8180 said:
That's a really good idea. The other route I was thinking of going is getting the 400 dollar one of craiglist then trying to sell mine for 300 that way I am only put of pocket 100 and stiff have no contract.
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If you do get that phone I would tell the person to meet you at a Sprint corporate store and activate the device while they are there. As a safety precaution of not getting a phone with a bad esn or something stolen that can't be activated.
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I wouldn't. Your only improvement is the 1080p screen. You will be able to do anything with the S3 that you can do on the 4. At least until the S5 or Note 3 come out. But buy the S4 and sell it for a profit. Never waist a good deal
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I wouldn't. Your only improvement is the 1080p screen. You will be able to do anything with the S3 that you can do on the 4. At least until the S5 or Note 3 come out. But buy the S4 and sell it for a profit. Never waist a good deal
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Agreed with this. I personally prefer to to upgrade every 2 generations. I skipped the S3 and will skip the S5 as well.
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I just bought a s4 on craigslist for $450 un-opened and sold my s3 for $300.. so I've spent $150. And I love the upgrade! If you can get the s4 for $100 (after selling your s3) I would jump on it, you won't regret it. And yes meet at the sprint dealer, or call sprint and check the esn right there before you give them money. That's what I did.
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joefrog1996 said:
I wouldn't. Your only improvement is the 1080p screen. You will be able to do anything with the S3 that you can do on the 4. At least until the S5 or Note 3 come out. But buy the S4 and sell it for a profit. Never waist a good deal
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Nuh-uh! I have ir blaster and can tell you the temperature and stuff!
But in all seriousness, I have yet to find what my n2, works s3, and hell, even my e4gt lacked over this for personal/business use.
One thing is for certain; this phone has better hardware for signal and net speed over the rest in the po-dunk town I live in.
Still excited for the n3 but I don't, overall, regret getting this.
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I'd buy that S4, sell the S3 and remain off contract for the S5. You're pretty much paying contract price for the S4, and it will probably command more $$ than the S3 when the S5 is out. Seems like a no brainer to me.
And I gave my S3 to another rep to keep her contract open, have the Note 2 on my line and have it on ebay now with 17 people watching and good bidding going on. Picked up the S4 on a spare line that gets used as a dummy company phone where the Hero works just fine. So selling the Note 2 will net me close to $200, and I have the one contract open to pick up the S5 or god forbid a premium slider for the next go around. That should be "The Next Big Thing" that will most likely not happen.
The screen is a touch nicer. I like the extra screen real estate for typing, especially coming off the Note 2. The res bump is noticeable but not that dramatic. The extra horses, IR blaster and sensors are a nice bonus too.
And not that it matters, but you'll have more bragging rights around the iphone 5S crowd. I work with a bunch of iphone owners who are starting to turn on their iphones (especially the 5), but still like to raz.
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joefrog1996 said:
I wouldn't. Your only improvement is the 1080p screen. You will be able to do anything with the S3 that you can do on the 4. At least until the S5 or Note 3 come out. But buy the S4 and sell it for a profit. Never waist a good deal
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The S4 is a great update compared one thing dual core version quad better display ir blaster 4.2.2 them right there only make it a major update from the S3. The thing is the list goes on and on. Anyone that thinks they are the same device just one has a better display is dead wrong and probably have never even seen a S4 in real life lol. Not saying you have not just saying in general.
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I also wouldn't do it...I'm pretty sure the S3 will get updated soon and there really isn't a HUGE difference between the two phones. If it was a Galaxy S2 that would be a different story

Had E4GT.
Upgraded to S3 - Huge improvement. Can't even try to compare.
Upgraded to S4 - Huge improvement.
S3 and S4 may be look alike but there is almost nothing alike inside them.
There are huge improvments and updates on both hardware and software levels.
The list is too long to type it up.
As for service here in Las Vegas.
I'm starting to get more and more 4G signals. Speed is still not to impressive 4.5-7.5 Mb/s but this is a good start.
Apperantly sprint is building his 4G LTE network here and doing it rather fast.
To get a better idea I would suggest to try the phone in store or may be one of your friends has it.
I think ones you get a feel of it you won't think twice to switch.

agat63 said:
Had E4GT.
Upgraded to S3 - Huge improvement. Can't even try to compare.
Upgraded to S4 - Huge improvement.
S3 and S4 may be look alike but there is almost nothing alike inside them.
There are huge improvments and updates on both hardware and software levels.
The list is too long to type it up.
As for service here in Las Vegas.
I'm starting to get more and more 4G signals. Speed is still not to impressive 4.5-7.5 Mb/s but this is a good start.
Apperantly sprint is building his 4G LTE network here and doing it rather fast.
To get a better idea I would suggest to try the phone in store or may be one of your friends has it.
I think ones you get a feel of it you won't think twice to switch.
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I have to agree with everything here. I have had basically every Galaxy, though I started with the OG G1 on Tmobile, and I can say every upgrade is substantial in my eyes.
Like Agat said, the design is similar, but that's because Samsung is trying to establish a brand with the Galaxy series looking similar to another with small design improvements as they move a long. Personally I love how the S4 looks compared to the S3, way less rounded and flatter, more candy bar shaped you could say and it feels a lot better in hand.
But design aside, the core of the device has improved all around, way better camera, way better screen, faster processor, better battery, and plenty plenty more. It is what it is, it's an upgrade, every new phone isn't going to be completely different and etc. I love my S4 and don't regret getting it one bit. As development here on XDA as well as apps that fully utilize the power of this device come out, the upgrade will become more and more visible.
Just a BTW, what I did was sell my S3 on craigslist for 350, (I kept all the original boxing, pamphlets, headphones, etc and the phone was in mint condition as I had thrown on a dope screen protector and case on day 1) so I was able to sell it for a good price, I actually sold it to a developer that works for some mobile development company so it was pretty cool haha. But yeah, then I just used one of my family members upgrades since they could care less about their phone and switched over the device to my line. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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I always save the box, paperwork, and accessories. Never touch any of the accessories. Figure the more something looks like new, the more you'll get for it. And my Note 2 went for almost $450 on ebay. Good pics also help generate interest.

agat63 said:
Had E4GT.
Upgraded to S3 - Huge improvement. Can't even try to compare.
Upgraded to S4 - Huge improvement.
S3 and S4 may be look alike but there is almost nothing alike inside them.
There are huge improvments and updates on both hardware and software levels.
The list is too long to type it up.
As for service here in Las Vegas.
I'm starting to get more and more 4G signals. Speed is still not to impressive 4.5-7.5 Mb/s but this is a good start.
Apperantly sprint is building his 4G LTE network here and doing it rather fast.
To get a better idea I would suggest to try the phone in store or may be one of your friends has it.
I think ones you get a feel of it you won't think twice to switch.
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I was by the palms today and pulled 20mps down I was super impressed on my s3. I see the 4.2.2 update is coming for us relatively soon too so I don't know I may hang onto the s3 I am still on the fence. Had I not see the complaints thread in here I probably would have already gotten the s4
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I just love how creative people get when doing an upgrade and getting it on the cheap!
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cas8180 said:
I was by the palms today and pulled 20mps down I was super impressed on my s3. I see the 4.2.2 update is coming for us relatively soon too so I don't know I may hang onto the s3 I am still on the fence. Had I not see the complaints thread in here I probably would have already gotten the s4
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My next upgrade is in October.
So it wasn't a brainer for me. If S5 is out by then I'll get one too.

agat63 said:
My next upgrade is in October.
So it wasn't a brainer for me. If S5 is out by then I'll get one too.
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I am trying to follow you through devices agat dating all the way back to the s2 but you keep moving too damn fast!!
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cas8180 said:
I am trying to follow you through devices agat dating all the way back to the s2 but you keep moving too damn fast!!
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I have 4 lines family plan with 6 months staggered upgrades available.
I take most updates since my kids and my wife are using some of my stuff.
So they don't mind to follow me half year later....