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Im looking for a new phone (again), and im tired of buying phones for their os, (its costing me money), so ive been looking for that "godly" phone that can do them all. so far ive been looking on youtube and google and seen it run gingerbread, windows XP and heard it will soon run windowsphone7 (i wasnt that curious about apple os), but i know that it wont run them smoothly, and it cost about 300 on eBay. so is it worth the price (and i heard meamo isnt "user friendly"), and is there a phone that can run all os's?
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I have one, it's mad slow compare to my android, because maemo is not updating anymore. I also had it run on android, but the development also seems to stopped. I haven't tried meego tho. I still have the phone, 32gb is pretty fun as a mp3 player with wifi and browser with flash.
how did it run android because with hardware capable of running winxp im thinking itll run it like it was made for it, also its has a resistive touchscreen, so does that mean it isnt capable of multitouch?
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Maxi21066 said:
how did it run android because with hardware capable of running winxp im thinking itll run it like it was made for it, also its has a resistive touchscreen, so does that mean it isnt capable of multitouch?
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Yes it doesn't have multitouch. Also resistive screens need more strong tapping to work compared to capacitive that you have to barely touch them. It's not an everyday use phone and not user friendly at all
I still have and love a N900. I found it easy to use with a great UI and the resistive screen an advantage, not a negative. Most of all it gave me a real Linux distro in my pocket with true multitasking that blows away Android.
I gave up using it for daily use only because of:
1. The lack of future support from Nokia for Maemo/MeeGo due to Nokia being paid by Microsoft to switch to WP7.
2. Not wanting to be locked into 1 manufacturer ala Apple/iPhone. That was my biggest concern when I bought a N900 but it was just irresistable and I pulled the trigger anyway.
3. Certain apps I use a lot have equal or better versions for Android than Maemo/MeeGo.
If MeeGo ever gains real traction and is supported by multiple manufacturers with real MeeGo devices, I'll drop Android like a bad habit.
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Yes good phone
Guys, the N900 it's not for all. If you don't want to mess up with linux go buy an android phone.
for the price, not being capable of multitouch, and meamo being left, i dont think its worth it, but is there a way for it to support multitouch with its resistive touch screen, like how the xperia 10 didnt support multitouch but then there was a hack on xda to make it.
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anapospastos said:
Guys, the N900 it's not for all. If you don't want to mess up with linux go buy an android phone.
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If you don't want to mess with Linux buy an iPhone
Crashdamage said:
...If MeeGo ever gains real traction and is supported by multiple manufacturers with real MeeGo devices, I'll drop Android like a bad habit.
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You're absolutely right! But the "big boys" will never let linux to spread on smartphones like they did on all sorts of other embedded systems. For them is just a cancer. Think of N900 as the first and I really hope not last of how a true "smart" phone should be.
Ps: I still remember the massive debates few years ago maemo/meego vs android
mprou said:
You're absolutely right! But the "big boys" will never let linux to spread on smartphones like they did on all sorts of other embedded systems. For them is just a cancer. Think of N900 as the first and I really hope not last of how a true "smart" phone should be.
Ps: I still remember the massive debates few years ago maemo/meego vs android
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I got one of the 1st G1s. Then I got one of the 1st N900s. Now I'm back to Android for daily use but not happy about it. Android and the apps have come a long way since the original G1 but still leaves me wanting. I'm hoping for a MeeGo miracle, but I'm afraid at this point it'll take a miracle for MeeGo to make a dent in the market.
P.S. The debate wasn't that long ago - I got the N900 in late '09. And it's actually still going on.
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even though meamo's been dropped and the no multiouch problem, reading the comments below and seeing how loyal people are to it, i think im gona do it. if it sucks then ill sell it and stick to my droid
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The N900 is still a lot of fun to play with and still reasonably speedy compared to more recent phones if overclocked. A real Linux distro in your pocket. Nothing else quite like it. Well, there's the new N9 but that's a lot more $$ than a used N900 and no hardware keyboard.
Be sure to check out maemo.org and the talk.maemo.org forums, which are still very active.
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My brother has an N900. It's kind of laggy and has problems connecting to WiFi networks
Originally Posted by Maxi21066
how did it run android because with hardware capable of running winxp im thinking itll run it like it was made for it, also its has a resistive touchscreen, so does that mean it isnt capable of multitouch?
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Yes it doesn't have multitouch. Also resistive screens need more strong tapping to work compared to capacitive that you have to barely touch them. It's not an everyday use phone and not user friendly at all
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lets say someone were to put a capacitive touchscreen in the n900, i think it has the hardware to run multitouch (just not the screen), would it work?
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Maxi21066 said:
lets say someone were to put a capacitive touchscreen in the n900, i think it has the hardware to run multitouch (just not the screen), would it work?
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You would then have to add software support for multitouch.
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You would then have to add software support for multitouch.
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Lol when i thought i had it solved.
All of this is just to complicated, I'm gona go with an iphone4, I wish it could do multi-touch, and I wish I wasn't so fussy about it not, because this is a powerful phone, but since maemos gone I was probably gona put android on it but I couldn't be able to play some apps because of the lack of (you already know)
Thanks everyone for replying and helping me out, really appreciate it.
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From a N900/Maemo to iPhone/iOS. Now that's going from doing whatever to solitary confinement. Total freedom to total lockdown. Can't get more opposing philosophies than that.
Say hey to Emperor Jobs for me 'cause I won't be checking into his fifedom.
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N900 is not for the masses. So simple.
Regarding the lack of multitouch and problems with wifi connection I have to thank you for my long laugh here
If you think that android is full of linux staff or it's a well built os then you ve got problem.
Crashdamage said:
From a N900/Maemo to iPhone/iOS. Now that's going from doing whatever to solitary confinement. Total freedom to total lockdown. Can't get more opposing philosophies than that.
Say hey to Emperor Jobs for me 'cause I won't be checking into his fifedom.
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Say what you want but ios is the most staple os out there witth the best apps and iphone has multitouch, usually I don't like to go with the mainstream guys but they're mainstream for a reason because they're actually good.
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So, over the weekend (Sunday night to be exact), I had a conversation with a WP7 user. This was the gist of it:
ME: (Saw the LG symbol, think immediately of idiot, then saw WP7 logo, and nearly laughed out loud on his face) Hey what phone is that?
Fanboy: It's a Windows Phone 7
ME: Cool #sarcasm. You're on Mango yet?
Fanboy: Sure.
ME: Sure sucks to use WP7...
[TL;DR long debate on why Android is better #winning]
Fanboy: Well, do you know Microsoft gets USD5 for every Android? So useless!
Yeah... so I stopped arguing...
I don't get it.?
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I was winning the argument on why Android is better, then he pulled a loser/fanboy move and just said MS is getting paid 5 bucks. And it looks like B&N is fighting back with the Nook.
Ooooo I love my android. " A" for effort
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I have the HTC surround. I also just ordered the Resound as I am switching carriers. I like wp7 for daily use. I have been Modding phones since windows mobile was at version 2003SE. I would like to have both android and wp7 devices to use at my discretion. As long as its not anything with ios on it.
kdj67f said:
I have the HTC surround. I also just ordered the Resound as I am switching carriers. I like wp7 for daily use. I have been Modding phones since windows mobile was at version 2003SE. I would like to have both android and wp7 devices to use at my discretion. As long as its not anything with ios on it.
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I'm fine with peeps harping on about their phones legitly. WP7 is good for something (other than as a brick) and so is iCrapple (gotta respect their game portfolio), but losing and argument so ungracefully?
You should have punched him in the face.
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I'm not schooled in the major differences between Windows Mobile, Android, and Palm, but I can tell you that people are complaining that they can't see something as basic as YouTube on some mobile devices, and that Windows Mobile has a free app for watching YouTube that works great. I can also tell you that certain video applications that enable remote viewing of webcams require Windows Mobile.
The correct retort is:
"Yes, and that's why MS make more money from Android sales than they can ever hope to from WP7. Has your market share fallen any further or has it hit rock bottom?"
so just the other day i've had my first experience with windows phone 7 while changing apn settings for a customer and i have to say, it's a respectable mobile platform. If i was forced to choose a non android phone, my next phone would be windows phone. So im just wondering others opinions
It's not bad, very usable. Too bad it doesn't support dual core yet.
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It would be good in my opinion of it had a more modifying and customization expect. But it seems to be too empty and not very entertaining to me.
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I think windows phone 7' will be a big hit for Microsoft and lifesaver for Nokia..... Let's see.
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Imo it didn't need it. It ran so Smooth that I didn't notice it was single core
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Same here. If they would implement a theme system it would be allot Better
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For now it's a life saver for Nokia. But if any other vendors like Samsung or htc Nokia will be in deep s**t again
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Good god I'm waiting for the fanboys to pile in here......
But, yes, it's a great OS. I have one, got my mom one who didn't want an iphone. It's great. But yes, the lack of customization is a downside, especially if coming from android. I think some themes in the way of background pictures or a lwp would be great, awesome for the people who have alot of tiles and therefore spend some time scrolling through the home screen. It's very intuitive with very little options, which like iOS, is why it's intuitive. Big reason I don't recommend android to people not able to pick up tech and "know" how to use it. It was a much needed change to save microsoft's mobile market. Too bad, I don't see it selling much. Walk into the store and the idiotic sales people will point you straight to an iPhone or Android device and sway you away from looking at the WP7. Then there is the "flashy" aspect. Walk in the store and ignore everyone and your eyes will be drawn to the cool factor of iOS and Android. Just my 2 cents and take it for what it's worth.
smooth and stable. I think, it lacks a few apps but there are alternatives.
What do you think are the best features that your nexus 4 is capable off.
Personally I think the fact you can use it as a gaming console (ps3 controller and hdmi output) is a fantastic feature of the phone.
Also the fact I can use it as a tablet type device by reading pdfs (essential for work) and as a media centre with the music and films.
What are your favourite features of this phone and of android in general?
This could be a useful thread for people to learn about things they weren't aware of . So what aspects do you enjoy the most?
mufc09 said:
What do you think are the best features that your nexus 4 is capable off.
Personally I think the fact you can use it as a gaming console (ps3 controller and hdmi output) is a fantastic feature of the phone.
Also the fact I can use it as a tablet type device by reading pdfs (essential for work) and as a media centre with the music and films.
What are your favourite features of this phone and of android in general?
This could be a useful thread for people to learn about things they weren't aware of . So what aspects do you enjoy the most?
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The ability to make phone calls and text are two of my favorite features. I don't know what I'll do without these two important features.
mufc09 said:
What do you think are the best features that your nexus 4 is capable off.
Personally I think the fact you can use it as a gaming console (ps3 controller and hdmi output) is a fantastic feature of the phone.
Also the fact I can use it as a tablet type device by reading pdfs (essential for work) and as a media centre with the music and films.
What are your favourite features of this phone and of android in general?
This could be a useful thread for people to learn about things they weren't aware of . So what aspects do you enjoy the most?
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dude any android high-end is basically a computer/ game system. i really hate the fact that this phone doesnt have a micro sd but i got over it. if usb on the go gets better oh mann ps1 and gba emulator heaven. i love the freedom with keboards and mice i can do a lot of school work on office suite pro 7. gaming is amazing with my dualshock 3. screen calibration is like the best thing ever since everyone can get the screen the way THEY want. andddd uhh, how thin and sexy the phone is. yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
i want OTG >
btw hows the hdmi out .. the slimport or whatever? is it laggy or smooth
scream4cheese said:
The ability to make phone calls and text are two of my favorite features. I don't know what I'll do without these two important features.
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I'm guessing you use a headset/headphones?
Does anyone else have any tips for what android can really do?
It can be better than an Iphone at half the price.
I'll go with Android in general.
The communities these devices generate.. All the way back from lurking SDX Developers to present day to being a heavy poster on XDA.. I've enjoyed every minute I lurk and post on these boards. You meet some interesting folks, you have some great laughs, some not so great arguments, and more importantly constantly learning... If you're willing to listen.. There is always someone around here willing to help another person out.. All you gotta do is ask.. And if you get bored.. You can pick any thread in the development section, start from page one and just read.. You're bound to learn something new..
The best feature of Android is IMO that it is open source and the best feature of the Nexi is IMO that they run clean Android and have full fastboot support.
having used an Android phone since the OG Galaxy S (Captivate), i've really come to love that the Nexus isn't locked to any particular carrier, and has no bloatware. in the past, i've always felt like i had to root and ROM my phones the moment i got them, just to get rid of AT&T's craptastic pre-loaded apps. i've had my N4 for nearly 3 whole months and haven't found a NEED to mod it at all (i still may in the future because of a desire to, but the need isn't there).
that's why i love the Nexus...
The Dev community.
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Stock Android
No MotoBleh
No CrapWiz
No HTC ****
No LG what-ever-the hell they use
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Off contract, unlocked, open file system.
I've been firmly entrenched in Apple's ecosystem for almost 30 years, and while most apps still exhibit more polish on iOS... Android is catching up.
Nexus 7 was the first Android device that impressed me, and Nexus 4 is more of the same. While I initially missed the ability to communicate via AppleEvents to my server, I managed to solve that problem and there is now very little iOS abilities I miss on Android.
best feature is that i bought one for $220 from a friend of mine
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AlexWekell said:
Stock Android
No MotoBleh
No CrapWiz
No HTC ****
No LG what-ever-the hell they use
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Agreed coming off att sg2 and have been fighting with the bloatware since having it, can't wait to install only the programs that I use and that is it
styckx said:
I'll go with Android in general.
The communities these devices generate.. All the way back from lurking SDX Developers
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Wow, an sdx reference. Didn't see that coming. They were instrumental in making the SPH-M920 aka Samsung transform aka god awful slider phone halfway decent. Vampirefo was the kernel developer I followed. Ahhh memories. Anyway, my favorite feature as far as the nexus is concerned is the updates.... Like all of them. On time and with a quickness.
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Although I've been strictly nexus since the galaxy nexus, these devices do have bloatware (to me)
I hate having Google plus and these other useless Google apps, can't even uninstall them, still love the nexus devices better than any other, but this is my only complaint
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subxero123 said:
Although I've been strictly nexus since the galaxy nexus, these devices do have bloatware (to me)
I hate having Google plus and these other useless Google apps, can't even uninstall them, still love the nexus devices better than any other, but this is my only complaint
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You can by taking advantage of one of the highlights of owning a nexus are..... Rooting it.
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mufc09 said:
What do you think are the best features that your nexus 4 is capable off.
Personally I think the fact you can use it as a gaming console (ps3 controller and hdmi output) is a fantastic feature of the phone.
Also the fact I can use it as a tablet type device by reading pdfs (essential for work) and as a media centre with the music and films.
What are your favourite features of this phone and of android in general?
This could be a useful thread for people to learn about things they weren't aware of . So what aspects do you enjoy the most?
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The ability to watch porn secretly
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quick updates , great developer support and calling and texting hah
AlexWekell said:
Stock Android
No MotoBleh
No CrapWiz
No HTC ****
No LG what-ever-the hell they use
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co-sign. I really dislike every "skinned" theme that carrier phones come with. Although if I HAD to be stuck with one I guess Id choose sense....I guess lol
I love how easy it is to access Google Now. On the Galaxy S3, you have to hold the home button, then two the Google Now icon.
Keyboard is pretty cool too.
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Read this on Google+:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Len...alks-have-been-going-on-since-August_id48116
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I'd have to say if that goes through it would benefit us users on the tech end but will it hurt us with unlocking the bootloaders in the future is my concern, China is not very open with sharing :'(
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olorolo said:
I'd have to say if that goes through it would benefit us users on the tech end but will it hurt us with unlocking the bootloaders in the future is my concern, China is not very open with sharing :'(
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My thoughts exactly
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After hearing the first lost on HTC, it does make me wander what's going forward. It is surprising to see this unfortunate turn around when mobile phone market grows quickly, there's something wrong with HTC's approach somewhere but I kinda don't get it why. I only get the fact that if HTC go under, or hurt too much, my phone will get less support. But if Lenovo takes it, I think it's a good thing because lenovo seems to have some magic on keep things running well, like IBM, although I don't appreciate their computers too much(don't have one ever) but looks to me a lot others do, and they rose sturdily to the biggest PC maker anyways.
Chinese companies acquisitions recently gave me an impression that those companies are not very intrusive on doing things their way, but tried a route of observe at a distance and help when needed. Like IBM, like volve. They seems like not only want to acquire the company but also learn their management, operation, tech, brand name and so on, so that the addition is a different level of products not total blend in.
HTC "Quietly Disappearing"
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