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A brother who can Acting on the website, I can try a few agents ...

Prepare the site agent who gave me a, how I can download. Thank you!

sorry but i cant understand u....

Really sad thing here ... I can not see ... to thank you for your reply

i think people on this forum no one understand u
chinglish

yeah, I'm reading it repeatedly but I can't understand any single thought...

the last part seem to sugest that he want a link to download something
maybe a rom
not sure what device though

My 2 cents: Myson speaks no English and used Babelfish...

in that case hope our replys make more sense comming out his end of baublefish

I doubt it, his "really sad thing" is probably a correct translation, while babelfish obviously can not translate "cant" "u" or "sugest".

he wants the himalaya aku7.0b 'rom, but in China mainland the link is invaild.

ohh...well he could have said it in a simple way..

i think
ather90 said:
ohh...well he could have said it in a simple way..
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i think he want download any rom but as his internet speed (slow) he is not able to download it and he wana any other site owner upload there and where he can download by resume option

if so he can use this
http://getright.com/
well if he can download it that is

thanks all international friends
it looks that the peple from different countries can also understand each other

wyao840316 said:
thanks all international friends
it looks that the people from different countries can also understand each other
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We all do what we can, but in real life we can use hands and feet, tone of voice as well as facial expressions to get our messages across. Here all we have is text and some smileys.
Anyhow it would help a lot in cases like this if uploaders would use less Rapidshare and more mirror download sites.

actually i saw his post right after creating this thread...
he also post the same message from other thread....
i thought some spammers...
i realized that he is using a translator from chinese to english...

then delete this topic
xda2jojo said:
actually i saw his post right after creating this thread...
he also post the same message from other thread....
i thought some spammers...
i realized that he is using a translator from chinese to english...
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then delete this topic because its doing waste our time haha

If you find it a waste of time, uncheck it in your followed threads list.

wyao840316 said:
he wants the himalaya aku7.0b 'rom, but in China mainland the link is invaild.
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I get it ~

Online petition

Hello everyone,
I just made an online petition to obtain ICS for our device. I know someone can say we only want last release of an operating system and such. In my opinion, that's false. We want something we paid for. I gave LG my trust and they disappointed me. Please, sign the petition, if you share my thoughts, or at least give it a read.
Petition link​
Thanks to all who'll help out
Tiwiz

Why dont you just file a complaint directly to the your country's consumer protection agency?

hisham027 said:
Why dont you just file a complaint directly to the your country's consumer protection agency?
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Mainly for two reasons, mate:
- I have many friends with LG2x and they can't flash, for a million of reasons, they are afraid of bricks, afraid of not finiding confortable with custom roms, bugs, etc... and I, as CM user, think that we should all get updates, for the money we spent in the phone and the disappointing feeling. We use CM, but it's bad LG just discontinued her flagship phone.
- It's not only Italy's problem: if it were just Italy, I would have worked on other releases and made it available as custom rom, as every other person on this forum would do, but it's a common problem, and I thought we need a common solution.
Thanks for your reply, if I sounded rude, please forgive me, it's only difficult to explain such things in a foreign language.
Tiwiz

no, its fine. I did sign the petition before replying to the thread. The consumer protection agency one was just a suggestion. I am in Maldives and we dont have an LG office/branch here, therefor we cannot do anything against them.

lets first see we can get gingerbread
they promise it on the (netherlands-belgium) website
they say "always updated to the latest version of android with one click on the button"
check link for prove and for petition
http://www.petitions24.com/lgo2xtogb
already +400 signatures
gtz
davjan

hisham027 said:
no, its fine. I did sign the petition before replying to the thread. The consumer protection agency one was just a suggestion. I am in Maldives and we dont have an LG office/branch here, therefor we cannot do anything against them.
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For what I could understand, smaller offices, like italians just works as test units, so it would be a waste of time to keep in touch with them...
@davjan you are right, but after the Android Handset Alliance, this is just a pain to ear... ICS can run on Nexus S, it MUST run on our...
Tiwiz

signed!! now we have to spit it to media! to any news website or tv! make it public!

Already spammed everywhere, Facebook pages included
Tiwiz

davjan said:
lets first see we can get gingerbread
they promise it on the (netherlands-belgium) website
they say "always updated to the latest version of android with one click on the button"
check link for prove and for petition
http://www.petitions24.com/lgo2xtogb
already +400 signatures
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davjan
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Already signed, check the #2 on the signature list.

tiwiz said:
Hello everyone,
I just made an online petition to obtain ICS for our device. I know someone can say we only want last release of an operating system and such. In my opinion, that's false. We want something we paid for. I gave LG my trust and they disappointed me. Please, sign the petition, if you share my thoughts, or at least give it a read.
Petition link​
Thanks to all who'll help out
Tiwiz
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nice try, but no one will give a f*-ck about it !
as for other android phones : you get the version installed & 1 update ...
so ... froyo + GB , that´s it. then our phone is outdated.
companies want to make money & sell new phones, so that´s their policy ...
i can sign your petition if you like, but it will change nothing ...
sorry, but that´s the truth
but at least we have official CM support, so when ICS SDK is available, we will get it from this source

Even the gb leaks are based on froyo kernels. Face it we are never going to get gingerbread let alone ICS because LG simply can't do it. (I blame nvidia aswell btw but thats a whole different story)
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Signed and also investigating local Dutch laws to protect customers.
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DarthD said:
Signed and also investigating local Dutch laws to protect customers.
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is this you http://twitter.com/#!/mennowoerts ?
otherwise you maybe can contact him , he is also looking for possibilities what we can do against LG

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is this you http://twitter.com/#!/mennowoerts ?
otherwise you maybe can contact him , he is also looking for possibilities what we can do against LG
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No its not my tweet but I will try to contact him. let's try to force lg into making a good ROM
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can developer steal a rom from another developer?

just a subj... is it possible the some developer just take a rom which weas made by someone else and announce as his one achivement? (sulerly, some minor ganages could be done in the rom)
how to identify the thief?

alex_awful said:
just a subj... is it possible the some developer just take a rom which weas made by someone else and announce as his one achivement? (sulerly, some minor ganages could be done in the rom)
how to identify the thief?
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It's not really stealing i guess as long as you put out credits of the people who created it, or by asking permission from the developers.

centrax said:
It's not really stealing i guess as long as you put out credits of the people who created it, or by asking permission from the developers.
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if the "owner" has not been aware about any usage of his rom, is it faire to thread the rom? "credits" are given when a team were worked out the rom, or when you take the result of someone's job and just say "hey, i take it" ?

in my opinion, it is situational and depends on the context.
A =/= B =/= C
But they could share similarities that most people would agree something was done morally wrong. I guess you could share with us the situation then we can give a better opinion?

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I guess you could share with us the situation then we can give a better opinion?
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i just wondering is there a sort of "widly known gentelmen agreement" about such situations. and the second matter is to get an idea how both parties (both developers) can get "a profitable solution" for both (= peace)

In my opinion, the developers community should be honest for it members. And other users have to proud for the achievments of this community. All team's results would be better, than results of each developer. That's why they should be together ^.^
PS sorry for bad english, I hope you understand my meaning

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That's why they should be together ^.^
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all should be together with all ... sounds impossible
the problem is HOW can others results be used for making app / rom etc?
what is allowed to do and what is forbidden (ethically)?

alex_awful said:
all should be together with all ... sounds impossible
the problem is HOW can others results be used for making app / rom etc?
what is allowed to do and what is forbidden (ethically)?
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To work together - allowed, to use with proper credits - allowed. To edit build.prop and post as own rom - not. I think so.

NikkyNine said:
To work together - allowed, to use with proper credits - allowed. To edit build.prop and post as own rom - not. I think so.
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that is what i intended to clarify

alex_awful said:
just a subj... is it possible the some developer just take a rom which weas made by someone else and announce as his one achivement? (sulerly, some minor ganages could be done in the rom)
how to identify the thief?
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If you suspect something, you can always go and compare files.
Technically you can do whatever you want since android is open source.
Ethically it isbetter to consult with rom owners about using parts of a rom and credit them offcourse
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Psyloid said:
Ethically it isbetter to consult with rom owners about using parts of a rom and credit them offcourse
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if someone did not done it (consult) before he take a part of rom, what will happen? does it mean that othe other community will declare a boycott against him? or just say "you'd better stop doing it"?

Of course you're all talking about the Rom owners, Google... Right? Or perhaps HTC? I would be very surprised if any Rom posted in our dev thread have asked Linus Torvalds personally if they could post a derivation of his operating system here.
You don't see too many credits to those 3 either...
It's public domain, nobody here has built a Rom entirely from scratch all have borrowed from the community and the source, and if they offer even one piece of code that's new, I say good on them, they are contributing to the community, and the community will take from and build on that too.
But let's cut to the chase, why are you asking the question? You're planning to contribute? Or are you here to point the finger at someone for stealing your creation?

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if someone did not done it (consult) before he take a part of rom, what will happen? does it mean that othe other community will declare a boycott against him? or just say "you'd better stop doing it"?
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They come to your house and stab you in the back.
Lol !!!
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if someone did not done it (consult) before he take a part of rom, what will happen? does it mean that othe other community will declare a boycott against him? or just say "you'd better stop doing it"?
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Like everyone has stated, being a open source code and that no one in here is making profit from the roms, (on this site at least i can not speak for the world) it is really a null point of theft everything is free you can not steal something that is owned by the public. As well if you plan on taking something from a rom I would strongly suggest that you ask, and give proper credit were it is due. personally if i worked on a project and someone was using my development with no permission or credit i would publicly humiliate them in anyway possible so that the ass who "stole"
my work would never be able to call it his own again. As well the XDA community is great group of people who if you steal anything from another rom with no permission will find out and ostracize you for your pathetic attempt to pass of someone else's blood sweat and tears as your own.
Nuff said lol

When could we except Kernel Sources?

Hi all.
My question is about kernel sources. I know devs can do magic if the sources are out there.
So, does Xiaomi typically give kernel sources? When would they do that? And especially why?
I am trying to understand how Xiaomi stands in that regard.
Cheers!

They are some of the worst. Even when they do release it, it is broken or incomplete. No one that has any choice buys their devices.

zelendel said:
They are some of the worst. Even when they do release it, it is broken or incomplete. No one that has any choice buys their devices.
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I have now filed a complaint with the XDA admins, asking them if they think it's ok with moderators that keep posting falsified information and non constructive nonsense. You are certainly lowering the quality of the threads. I don't know why, and I don't care why - but please help making XDA a better place instead of posting things no one wants to read.

Ch0rus said:
I have now filed a complaint with the XDA admins, asking them if they think it's ok with moderators that keep posting falsified information and non constructive nonsense. You are certainly lowering the quality of the threads. I don't know why, and I don't care why - but please help making XDA a better place instead of posting things no one wants to read.
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Did you not understand zelendel answer Removed or because of your room temperature IQ

Ch0rus said:
I have now filed a complaint with the XDA admins, asking them if they think it's ok with moderators that keep posting falsified information and non constructive nonsense. You are certainly lowering the quality of the threads. I don't know why, and I don't care why - but please help making XDA a better place instead of posting things no one wants to read.
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You can think what ever you want but my comments are very much true. If a developer is looking for a device to develop on Xiaomi is is avoided due to their lack of following the GPL. Think I am wrong why not have a read HERE where we talk about it in length.

Ch0rus said:
I have now filed a complaint with the XDA admins, asking them if they think it's ok with moderators that keep posting falsified information and non constructive nonsense. You are certainly lowering the quality of the threads. I don't know why, and I don't care why - but please help making XDA a better place instead of posting things no one wants to read.
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Oh, another wannabe keyboard warrior... Take a note from your own Removed words and stop posting Removed no one wants to read.

Let's not resort to swearing or insulting someones possible English please.
Cheers

nevermind

Slagathor said:
So, does Xiaomi typically give kernel sources?
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Yes, for some.
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When would they do that?
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Typically 6 months after device release.
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And especially why?
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No idea. Their selection criteria which device source to release also remains unrevealed.

maybe 1year after the release of Mi5. Thats what they did with Mi3 right?

The kernel sources are published. Are they complete and are they useful for the dev(s)?

here are the kernel sources
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/gemini-m-oss

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They are some of the worst. Even when they do release it, it is broken or incomplete. No one that has any choice buys their devices.
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@thunderrr0 I know they are published but I have not found anybody who can tell whether the sources can be used or are broken.

Slagathor said:
@thunderrr0 I know they are published but I have not found anybody who can tell whether the sources can be used or are broken.
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Only developers will know for sure unless you download the source and try to build it as is. Most of the time there takes lots of fixes and hacks to get it working. Main reason most developers won't buy their devices.

Need answers from moderators/admins

Hi there, i have sent emails and some PM some admins/moderators but havent got any answer, so i try this:
My question is this: Can i make thread that i ask testers for some bluetooth headset? users get those products for free but they need write reviews of it..

Vihru said:
Hi there, i have sent emails and some PM some admins/moderators but havent got any answer, so i try this:
My question is this: Can i make thread that i ask testers for some bluetooth headset? users get those products for free but they need write reviews of it..
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Hi !
Would you please expand a bit more / What kind of test ? software test ? device test ?

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Hi !
Would you please expand a bit more / What kind of test ? software test ? device test ?
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Thanks for answer. Device tests. User get bluetooth device handset free and then he write review. how we can make it right way?

Vihru said:
Thanks for answer. Device tests. User get bluetooth device handset free and then he write review. how we can make it right way?
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Unfortunately no, you can`t open a thread here and ask for people to contact you or any other company in order to receive a device to promote reviews .
We allow device reviews obviously but we don`t intermediate the reviewers and the device owners on open threads.
This might turn into a business and this is against the forum rules
13. Advertising and Income Generation
Commercial advertising ...
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7. Do not sell or trade on the forums.
If you wish to advertise a product, simply contact us. We can provide ads but you are not permitted to just post it in the forums. If you do, it will be removed and you're likely to receive a ban.
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I know you may say you`re doing for free but we do not encourage this kind of trades, your best choice is to contact the admin.
https://www.xda-developers.com/contact/

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Unfortunately no, you can`t open a thread here and ask for people to contact you or any other company in order to receive a device to promote reviews .
We allow device reviews obviously but we don`t intermediate the reviewers and the device owners on open threads.
This might turn into a business and this is against the forum rules
I know you may say you`re doing for free but we do not encourage this kind of trades, your best choice is to contact the admin.
https://www.xda-developers.com/contact/
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I have contacted about many weeks ago, but have not got any answer..
so can you give more details?

Vihru said:
I have contacted about many weeks ago, but have not got any answer..
so can you give more details?
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unfortunately you would need to wait for them to respond as they would be busy as well.
Alternatively try pinging @MikeChannon maybe he could help you as well.

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I have contacted about many weeks ago, but have not got any answer..
so can you give more details?
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Who did you email?
I see no record on the webmaster email account.
But as said already we have rules that prevent commercial activity. Although this would not be a "selling" thread it woud presumably be to gain reviews to help sales of a conmmercial product.
Mike

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Who did you email?
I see no record on the webmaster email account.
But as said already we have rules that prevent commercial activity. Although this would not be a "selling" thread it woud presumably be to gain reviews to help sales of a conmmercial product.
Mike
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So XDA can not be used to search users to get free product?
thanks for the answer. i dont have company, just asking for another user. i dont want my account to be banned, thats why im asking.

Vihru said:
So XDA can not be used to search users to get free product?
thanks for the answer. i dont have company, just asking for another user. i dont want my account to be banned, thats why im asking.
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Maybe we are misunderstanding what you are wanting to do.
If you have no interest in the company that produces the bluetooth headset then why do you want the person to write a review(s)?
Mike

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Maybe we are misunderstanding what you are wanting to do.
If you have no interest in the company that produces the bluetooth headset then why do you want the person to write a review(s)?
Mike
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i would be one of testers.. i am not working that company, just helping.

Vihru said:
i would be one of testers.. i am not working that company, just helping.
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Well ok but nvertheless a commercial company would be benefiting from getting reviews. That's where the problem lies for us.
Mike

MikeChannon said:
Well ok but nvertheless a commercial company would be benefiting from getting reviews. That's where the problem lies for us.
Mike
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Thanks for answers, i forward this!
One thing, is that wrong if users write reviews about phone cases or those? or is that also somekind of selling.. i mean if is thats illegal if asking users do they want that product and test it? and write review?

Vihru said:
Thanks for answers, i forward this!
One thing, is that wrong if users write reviews about phone cases or those? or is that also somekind of selling.. i mean if is thats illegal if asking users do they want that product and test it? and write review?
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It's ok for a User to write a review here when they have chosen to do it. But it is a problem if they are only writing it in return for a free product. In a sense that means the review has been "bought".
Mike

MikeChannon said:
It's ok for a User to write a review here when they have chosen to do it. But it is a problem if they are only writing it in return for a free product. In a sense that means the review has been "bought".
Mike
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thanks, you can now delete this thread!

Vihru said:
thanks, you can now delete this thread!
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We're going to keep this thread as people with similar questions might easily find an answer.

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We're going to keep this thread as people with similar questions might easily find an answer.
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ok! thanks