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Support Legend Developers?

Hi all,
This is my first post, although I have been following the group for a long time. My post is motivated by the observation that a massive imbalance exists, particularily in the Legend development community.
There is a huge mass of non-contributing users badgering a small group of hard-working developers, whilst free-loading off the many hours they spend trying to improve the Legend for all of us. (BTW - I'm not pointing any fingers that don't equally apply to myself!) The value of the hours they are putting in is huge, and the return amounts only to the occational humble click of a thanks button.
I have written to the XDA owners and proposed that they implement a system whereby users can donate to a specific thread, and that each month the proceeds of thoses donations are distributed to posters according to the distribution of new "thanks" clicks to them. Unfortunately I have not heard anything in reply, so in the meantime I propose that we start here in the Legend development forum in a less systematic way.
For example; all of us eagerly following ogo2's thread on his Alpha rom should support how we can. We have all heard BlaYO's hesitance to get too involved in that he needs another Legend to do development work on, as he can't render his own out of service for days on end. Absolutely fair point. I would suggest that all active developers in here create a donation account somewhere so that the rest of us ungrateful, free-loading scavengers (again, myself included, and meant in the most positive way! ) can contribute.
Let's get BlaYO a second development Legend, or ogo2 some resources on Linux compilation etc. It's the least we can do, even if we are just selfishly offering to help them, help us
It would not take much, and I am quite certain that anyone who can afford a Legend can also afford to donate $10-20 now and then. What a small price to pay for all the hours that our devs spend working to bring all of us the latest and greatest. Let's give something back!

There were a bunch of users that actually donated to my PayPal account (a few months ago I didn't believe this could happen by the way).
I'd personally object to such a system for various reasons, the main one being complication of something which is a pretty simple in fact: You like the work of someone, you donate (or buy).
Moreover, there are a few CM developers whose work on their device (which happens to use an msm7227 chipset) directly influences the Legend too and therefore my work as well. They are not active in the Legend forum though.
So what I basically want to say: There's a lot of work going on – not hours but weeks – which you might never see because these almost unmoderated boards here are full of you-name-it and every CM developer I know pretty much dislikes XDA for that very reason.
You don't see us (40+ developers) working, but that doesn't mean we aren't.
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Ah, and by the way, I've been busy too, so tiwlan on 2.6.35 is almost finished.

ali ba said:
Ah, and by the way, I've been busy too, so tiwlan on 2.6.35 is almost finished.
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Is this meaning that the new CM7s will have the new kernel?
By the way, what was modified in the kernel source so the tiwlan didn't compile normaly?

I don't need a new Legend, I just need some peace...

There you go
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I don't need a new Legend, I just need some peace...
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Peace be with you

Hmmm... OK, I get that my proposal could have some shortcomings, however the intent is good. It's great to hear that users donated to your Paypal, Ali Ba, perhaps other devs should just publish Paypal details too, and users can direct donations to where they feel they are most deserved?
It is not meant to be fair compensation for the numerous hours spent, as the basic principles of community development should still be the driving force. It could, however, be a token of appreciation from those unable to contribute in any other way.
I can't help but feel that there would be more devs involved with more and faster progress as a consequence, if only there was a little reward in there too. Surely that would be in everybodies interest.
In any event, I offer my thanks to all the devs here, and I would be happy to back that up with a contribution, should you decide to go that way

ali ba said:
Ah, and by the way, I've been busy too, so tiwlan on 2.6.35 is almost finished.
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I was working on getting wl12xx driver working with 2.6.32 kernel but I didn't succeed yet. Is there a reason not to switch to wl12xx driver instead? It also provides soft AP support int the same driver.
Regarding donations, it would be nice if I could donate you via Google checkout.
Thanks.

Yea leave Blay0 alone man, He's getting enough hassle on the Alpha thread as it is! people say they'd like to help then just request more things like a2sd,overclocked kernel etc.If you know anything about linux try helping by trying to build drivers for the last 2 bits (i.e Bluetooth,wifi)

I must say also that there were individuals who offered me donations which I respectfully refused and instead apoint those guys to their nearest charity. I'm not doing this for money (I make money doing other things) I'm just doing it coz I like to know how things work and I always like to learn new things. So if I become bored those donations definitely won't convince me to keep on doing it.
Don't you guys ever think that I'm doing all this for you! Noooope! I'm doing it for me and my own satisfaction. Yes, that's right I'm actualy a selfish, egoistic basterd but in a process of achieving my own goals (which are also inspired by some of your suggestions) I'm really happy if someone else learn something from me. They are few but it doesn't matter... they will definitelly pass on their knowledge and that's important coz I believe knowledge is universal and must be available to anyone willing to accept it and you cannot charge for that.
Don't kidd yourselves, this Legend thingie will be among us at most for another year and then it will get its successors and its community will become even smaller and eventually it will be disbanded and some of us will find new projects, learnig new thing and again passing on all the gained knowledge.

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Don't kidd yourselves, this Legend thingie will be among us at most for another year.
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A whole year is an optimistic approach
The main problem in the development of the HTC Legend is the device itself. It's a rare phone, and pretty much a very small group of people is using it. That also makes the group of talented developers thinner. Look at the Hero or SGS forums topic/post count. Sure - most of them are retarded, and previously answered questions, but still folks in the dev section are coding some crazy and amazing stuff. That's because those devices where popular and successful. The HTC Legend was ment to be the successor of the HTC Hero, but this ain't gonna happen. Nobody will remember this phone in a year or two. That's of course HTCs fault, not ours.
Also mentioning all the request, demands and stupid questions in the dev forum - this forum is not that bad
Go check the Nexus S section. For example the NexusSense topic (my girlfriend got a Nexus so I'm somewhat interested). Now that's pure fukcin massacre out there
Greets!
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA Premium App

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A whole year is an optimistic approach
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Agreed, I thought Legend was a kickass sucessor, but very few people actually bought it...I've deserted to Desire S, but I think that's a very similar case so far anyways...
But back on topic: The thing is, everyone has an interest in what he's doing and unless he has a gain from that work he wouldn't be doing it But the idea of donating is noble ofcourse
Let's support our developers by not asking stupid and obvious questions, using search button, hitting that freakin' "thanks" button as often as we can, and most importantly by using our own brains to gain even more from their work

Dr.Romca said:
Let's support our developers by not asking stupid and obvious questions, using search button, hitting that freakin' "thanks" button as often as we can, and most importantly by using our own brains to gain even more from their work
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Amen! (10char )

Agree with the great Dr!
PLUS This is a General thread so should be in the general section.....Threads should go into the right forums for a start! Hate to think how many threads there are in the wrong place :/

[Q] Buy knzo a OB

Hey guys, I just wanna do a quick survey, how many ppl would help, to get knzo a new/used P970, so he can join back to our section. Since this seems to be the only Problem, that keeps him from joining back...
So I wanna get a quick resonance, of how many people here would join me.
I WANNA HAVE HIM BACK BADLY!
You know he already did great things for us, so lets reward this to him and help financing this phone.
Let's see how many ppl we can get together here, and then we can talk about, how much everyone is willing to pay.
I only want you to reply, if your sure about willing to pay.
I am thinking about a max amount of 5€/person, since I think this is an amout, that everyone can effort.
And you all want a great ROM, I am quite sure
And we got a lot of members around here and most only take the files and use them, like me as well. But somewhen comes the time for payback
So gimme a quick feedback, if you are willing to join me.
Hope we get enough ppl together.

He is already exist p970?

N00BY0815 said:
I am thinking about a max amount of 5€/person, since I think this is an amout, that everyone can effort.
And you all want a great ROM, I am quite sure
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I am willing, but need knzo's update if he's willing to support us, and for how long (let's say untill we have stable ICS... ).
I've donated once Samsung Galaxy i5700 developer, he got the phone, but never finished the job he was meant to do (done lot of other great stuff, but no 3d driver).

+1. knzo would be the biggest addition back to the P970.
i am willing to contribute, but am a student without any account or card.
all i can have is cash from mah parents
but i can afford 10 euro if it is possible to get bank transfer going. i'll do it frm mah dads a/c.
i think we should get a bounty going???....& this topic should be stickied to the Q&A sub forum.

I already wrote, I wouldnt want anyone to pay more than 5 euros. But I was writing with him a bit and he doesnt know, if he really wants/is able to come back, for some personal reasons.
I guess everyone would understand this as well, since we all/or most at least should have a private life as well. So lets see, how it turns out and if he wants to come back, I'll revive this thread and we'll let the money flow to him

knzo would be the biggest addition back to the P970.
Please come back
Greetings

Anyone donated something? And what's with knzzo do he know this?
Sent from my LG-P970 using XDA App

I think he doesnt know until now, but better wait with donations, since he isnt sure, if he really wants to come back

Maclaw [MINI USER RIGHTS!]

hey Maclaw where the is ROM/kernel for mini? u said u buy a galaxy mini today? 25 July 2012
We know we have TheWhisp & Rohan007 working for our device, but now, as what u promised, we must get what u promised.(official)
i got some thought that you just using TheWhisp & Rohan007? or is it you just crazy to get the title for the best Samsung Galaxy low-end devices developer?
How about MINI USER that DONATE to you until now or long time ago, and STILL waiting for the ROM, and the device for u to fix??
@Maclaw
THIS IS FOR OUR RIGHTS!
WE FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS!
@Maclaw, respect others rights, don't simply giving hopes to people and u just leave them,
lesson : don't promise or make it "official", if you know u can't make it real

onnira said:
hey Maclaw where the is ROM/kernel for mini? u said u buy a galaxy mini today? 25 July 2012
We know we have TheWhisp & Rohan007 working for our device, but now, as what u promised, we must get what u promised.(official)
i got some thought that you just using TheWhisp & Rohan007? or is it you just crazy to get the title for the best Samsung Galaxy low-end devices developer?
How about MINI USER that DONATE to you until now or long time ago, and STILL waiting for the ROM, and the device for u to fix??
@Maclaw
THIS IS FOR OUR RIGHTS!
WE FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS!
@Maclaw, respect others rights, don't simply giving hopes to people and u just leave them,
lesson : don't promise or make it "official", if you know u can't make it real
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MAD_psycho_Zz said:
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TheWhisp is developing for Mini/Fit. We're supporting him. I don't think it's making sense to develop other ROM is he's there.
And which right? We planned to use every $ from donations for Mini, but in last 2 months I received 25$ only. I planned to use my own money, but for WHAT if TheWhisp is there. As I said, I'm supporting him, yesterday I fix'd browser on CM10 for Mini.
And I didn't received any donation for Mini from a looooooong, loooooong time...
And if you want to explain something, write to me first. If you think that's thanks to this topic I'll buy Mini, you're wrong. Why should I do this now?
Ok, I can buy Mini, but I won't develop something. It doesn't make sense to create two similar ROMs at the same time. TheWhisp is great dev and he have my full support, in words and in practic - I respect him.
And: MINI USERS WANTS RIGHTS... but Mini users can't help developer, when he says he want to help them...

Macław said:
TheWhisp is developing for Mini/Fit. We're supporting him. I don't think it's making sense to develop other ROM is he's there.
And which right? We planned to use every $ from donations for Mini, but in last 2 months I received 25$ only. I planned to use my own money, but for WHAT if TheWhisp is there. As I said, I'm supporting him, yesterday I fix'd browser on CM10 for Mini.
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"How about MINI USER that DONATE to you until now or long time ago, and STILL waiting for the ROM, and the device for u to fix??"
so this means, u waiting for donation? you do have community right now after what u did, and u have the responsibilities towards them
it is same method for artist, if you willing to get fan, and u willing to be responsible towards them?innit?
and i know about TheWhisp, but if like that, there is no other ROM for each devices? one ROM for one device?

onnira said:
"How about MINI USER that DONATE to you until now or long time ago, and STILL waiting for the ROM, and the device for u to fix??"
so this means, u waiting for donation? you do have community right now after what u did, and u have the responsibilities towards them
it is same method for artist, if you willing to get fan, and u willing to be responsible towards them?innit?
and i know about TheWhisp, but if like that, there is no other ROM for each devices? one ROM for one device?
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I won't create copy of his ROM in 1:1 scale. Where's the sense?

Macław said:
TheWhisp is developing for Mini/Fit. We're supporting him. I don't think it's making sense to develop other ROM is he's there.
And which right? We planned to use every $ from donations for Mini, but in last 2 months I received 25$ only. I planned to use my own money, but for WHAT if TheWhisp is there. As I said, I'm supporting him, yesterday I fix'd browser on CM10 for Mini.
And I didn't received any donation for Mini from a looooooong, loooooong time...
And if you want to explain something, write to me first. If you think that's thanks to this topic I'll buy Mini, you're wrong. Why should I do this now?
Ok, I can buy Mini, but I won't develop something. It doesn't make sense to create two similar ROMs at the same time. TheWhisp is great dev and he have my full support, in words and in practic - I respect him.
And: MINI USERS WANTS RIGHTS... but Mini users can't help developer, when he says he want to help them...
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i didnt ask you to buy, but asking for you responsibilities, thats all

I don't want to be against of you or anyone but why did you stop doing CM9 ,Where we have an incomplete cm9 rom and I heard you have the camera working then why don't you implement them and update the CM9.

Guys, this time Maclaw is right. If you want the kernel, I can try to continue Squadzone's work.

Vasishta Reddy said:
I don't want to be against of you or anyone but why did you stop doing CM9 ,Where we have an incomplete cm9 rom and I heard you have the camera working then why don't you implement them and update the CM9.
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TheWhisp said:
Guys, this time Maclaw is right. If you want the kernel, I can try to continue Squadzone's work.
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+1. its not logical to build another copy of the rom if one's already building it. and besides, maclaw is supporting Whisp now. give respect man. maclaw is not a robot to order around just because you liked to.

onnira said:
"How about MINI USER that DONATE to you until now or long time ago, and STILL waiting for the ROM, and the device for u to fix??"
so this means, u waiting for donation? you do have community right now after what u did, and u have the responsibilities towards them
it is same method for artist, if you willing to get fan, and u willing to be responsible towards them?innit?
and i know about TheWhisp, but if like that, there is no other ROM for each devices? one ROM for one device?
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Hey, you talk about donation so much.
I think someone will donate to developer because that developer have already done something great. I think someone who give their money to the developer, should be give their money with whole-hearted, honest, sincere.
They should know that with donating, doesn't mean they 'buy' something, because the developers isn't selling anything.
It's true that Maclaw promise something that isn't good for himself, I think. I don't know what really happened. But creating a thread to him like this is too offensive, I think.

Maclaw removed his CM9 ROMs due to uncompliance with GPL license, which is good (not for us and the devs, but for Maclaw's understanding that he shouldn't play with those kind of things).
Current CM10 is using his kernel, and i will believe him about helping TheWhisp this time. A little bit of respect is needed now.
@Maclaw - just don't so the same thing all over again, leaving users with expectations and then dumping them away like nothing is just not right!

i 'm not the one,everyone else did felt the same
just don't be a pathetic because u wanna feel neutral
i just wanna know, whats the responsibilities towards mini user?that all.
and actually he should post something, maybe let the mini user know he didnt make it ( the rom or anything ) not just easily post,
something like, the rom will transfer to the other hand,that easy?
and maybe he can continue the cm9 for mini..
i dont want to argue or get fight, but just for the rights
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769488 ( i don't mean to drag anyone else, but here's the proof )

domcale said:
Maclaw removed his CM9 ROMs due to uncompliance with GPL license, which is good (not for us and the devs, but for Maclaw's understanding that he shouldn't play with those kind of things).
Current CM10 is using his kernel, and i will believe him about helping TheWhisp this time. A little bit of respect is needed now.
@Maclaw - just don't so the same thing all over again, leaving users with expectations and then dumping them away like nothing is just not right!
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that's what i mean, thank you

musashihatred said:
+1. its not logical to build another copy of the rom if one's already building it. and besides, maclaw is supporting Whisp now. give respect man. maclaw is not a robot to order around just because you liked to.
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+1 guys really it makes no sense in making the same rom again and again whats the use man you will have cm9 and also you will have aokp both are based on the same thing and as far as camera goes i agree with the others maclaw if you have working camera then please update but still even if maclaw promised mini it isnt compulsory for him to buy it he felt whisp is working on the same thing maybe he has a mini so whats the sense in wasting money and time on something that is just going to be the same thing under a different label

What a load of Spam! Get this straight - Users of any mobile have only "rights" from their seller, manufacturer and service provider. You have No rights from developers on xda at all (even if you donate thousands of Euros, Dollars or Pounds). I'm shocked that a moderator has not stepped in yet to explain that as a member of xda you have absolutely no "rights" whatsoever.

themountig said:
What a load of Spam! Get this straight - Users of any mobile have only "rights" from their seller, manufacturer and service provider. You have No rights from developers on xda at all (even if you donate thousands of Euros, Dollars or Pounds). I'm shocked that a moderator has not stepped in yet to explain that as a member of xda you have absolutely no "rights" whatsoever.
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There is a misunderstanding here.
Donating upfront is not allowed. Maybe some did that, if so they are at loss.
Nothing can be done now.

musashihatred said:
+1. its not logical to build another copy of the rom if one's already building it. and besides, maclaw is supporting Whisp now. give respect man. maclaw is not a robot to order around just because you liked to.
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TheWhisp and Maclaw working together?? Galaxy Mini will become the luckiest device in the world! I support both of you but ya, if Maclaw made a promise he should at least try to do something about it.. :fingers-crossed: But i dont care until and unless Maclaw is doing something for our Mini!
Thanx to both Maclaw And TheWhisp :good: Wish u good luck!

Do you know what donation means? No? Let me explain that
Wikipedia said:
A donation is a gift given by physical or legal persons, typically for charitable purposes and/or to benefit a cause. A donation may take various forms, including cash offering, services, new or used goods including clothing, toys, food, and vehicles. It also may consist of emergency, relief or humanitarian aid items, development aid support, and can also relate to medical care needs as i.e. blood or organs for transplant. Charitable gifts of goods or services are also called gifts in kind. The largest form of gifts in kind is created in many nations by the donation of aging automobiles with the item donated being picked up, sold and the proceeds given to the charity or non-profit (type or named) which was the target of the donor's generosity. One standard way of obtaining donations is the use of raffles for the accumulation of funds.
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So. In short - you can't demand something because you paid for that. In short this means, that you are freely give Macław and his team some money to use it for their own purpose.
Android wasn't involved for making money - it's Linux adapted to run on mobile devices. Linux is a GPL OS, so you are not paying a damn cent to receive anything. Android is the same. Don't exepect the developers to spend all their time to improve the OS. They have to earn some money too. Nothing is for free, especially food or flat.
Politics of companies is brutal - release the device, give one or max. two updates and pretend that this device is dead. That's normal - it's all about the money. Even biggest companies doesn't give a damn about their old devices/products.
You should appreciate that you have something more than plain GB. It took a lot of work to adapt all of the libs to run CM9/10.
You don't owe anything to Macław and he doesn't owe you anything as well.
I don't appreciate TeamICS politics, but I'm not the one to judge them. Developers are always welcome, especially here on XDA.
So please hide your grudge under the pillow and move on.

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TheWhisp and Maclaw working together?? Galaxy Mini will become the luckiest device in the world! I support both of you but ya, if Maclaw made a promise he should at least try to do something about it.. :fingers-crossed: But i dont care until and unless Maclaw is doing something for our Mini!
Thanx to both Maclaw And TheWhisp :good: Wish u good luck!
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No. He just fixed the Browser issue. That's all, the rest of the work is done by me and Rohan007. He helps us, we help him.

New Phone leaving group.

Well gentlemen I hate to say this but, I just canceled the rest of my contract with my carrier Cincinnati Bell. I have bought a Samsung Galaxy Touch 4G from Sprint. If anybody would like my two still functional Huawei Ascend X phones I will give them to you, If you are willing to pay for and arrange shipping somehow. My Patches that i have posted for the for softkeys, I give to the community to continue if needed, hopefully I left good enough instructions for anybody to follow. Good luck in the future.
Serge

Wow thanks for all your contributions you made :good:
We are running a donation for XDA American Dev Randomblame, he has kindly said he would help out where he can if he had a X6. It would be awesome if XDA member nayneshdev who is running the collection give you the funds already collected and you forward the X6 onto randomblame? just a suggestion :cyclops:
Your X6 would be more suitable than the proposed new Cherry Mobile X6 for randomblame as its 850Mhz and he could utilize the 3G.
anyways enjoy the new samsung.. cheers again for all your help

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Wow thanks for all your contributions you made :good:
We are running a donation for XDA American Dev Randomblame, he has kindly said he would help out where he can if he had a X6. It would be awesome if XDA member nayneshdev who is running the collection give you the funds already collected and you forward the X6 onto randomblame? just a suggestion :cyclops:
Your X6 would be more suitable than the proposed new Cherry Mobile X6 for randomblame as its 850Mhz and he could utilize the 3G.
anyways enjoy the new samsung.. cheers again for all your help
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Absolutely correct, I am very happy to give the donations, but the problem is that the community looks very dried cause so far i have only been able to collect approx $41. It has been around 10 days since then. Sergekarol may please advise the amount so that we can revise the sum and see if we can reach it.

Thank you so very much for your contribution on this forum, mate and good luck with your new device. Good choise, wish I had one too!
# My dog is my avatar.

@sergekarol, Welcome to the family of Samsung, I myself currently running on SGS2 i777 from AT&T

@Sarge ... what is your expectation in term of price inclusive shipping charges
@all member : if want to keep spirit on.... for this mobile then we can donate .... so that we can send a mobile to randomblame who promise to contribute in his way ... so start donating to naynesh so he will arrange to do transfer money.

Epic 4G Touch? Seems familiar
@all. FB0 variant was very good phone for exploring android system. You can increase your skill with this device freely. Keep spirit guys. All of you can be developers of this amazing device :thumbup:
Sent from my SPH-D710

ardX said:
Epic 4G Touch? Seems familiar
@all. FB0 variant was very good phone for exploring android system. You can increase your skill with this device freely. Keep spirit guys. All of you can be developers of this amazing device :thumbup:
Sent from my SPH-D710
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Thanks for lifting our spirits. Since you say that all of us can be developers then i think you will not mind sharing your method of developing from source. It is indeed true that our device is almost brick proof. So a detailed step by step guide will be very appreciated. And thankx for everything and the first working Jb.

I wish that we can negotiate Serge's fone with the bucks that we have.
Come on Serge, let's keep the party rollin.
Thanks.
^▁^

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Thanks for lifting our spirits. Since you say that all of us can be developers then i think you will not mind sharing your method of developing from source. It is indeed true that our device is almost brick proof. So a detailed step by step guide will be very appreciated. And thankx for everything and the first working Jb.
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Guide for building from source? There're many of it in the web. Especially XDA. In my thread mentioning one of it. I think you not yet to try it? Right? Cause its very easy. Just simple command everywhere. You'll surprised how easy it is. But, the hard part was fixing bugs
My style of fixing feature was googling. Yeah, you're not wrong. Google has it all. Just how to make best query to get best answer. All android forum and github is best place to get it. Almost code in android was similar, same SOC give most similarity. So, it's just about your skill of googling, your logic of android and small skill of coding. Thats it
Just do it
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Holding one plus to account

I am starting this thread to keep discussion alive regarding one plus promises to us the Android enthusiast community - these are recent posts from the 6t twrp dev thread in response to @FuNkwizzard claim that one plus really cares about the development community - I have reached out to @FuNkwizzard to speak in pm although haven't heard anything back as yet.
Funk Wizard said:
For all those who have doubts buying this device, i can assure you for OnePlus devices, development is second to none so its just a matter of time.
Funk
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I'm assuming by now that you actually work for op ?
Maybe you could pass on the message to the customer support team who informed me only a couple of days ago 'we do not recommend unlocking bootloader or rooting and as such cannot give you the stock IMG to restore your device to factory settings' - of course I managed to find the fastboot file that I needed courtesy of @mauronofrio but this attitude from the online so called 'customer support team' this runs very contrary to what you are informing us of here which I have no doubt at all that what you are telling us is true. But - if op really wants to win over the Android enthusiast community then someone really needs to make sure that customer services know this!
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Yamvmax1 said:
OP is becoming to big for themselves. Time to find a new little guy.
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Well here's an idea, if op really is so committed (grateful - remember humble beginnings with so much support from the Android enthusiast community) - then give recognised developers their devices at the same time that they go into the hands of all the reviewers - they can surely ask them to sign non disclosure agreements in the same way that reviewers are asked to. Let's think about it, why are reviewers devices given to them before release - well it's simple, op is relying on the hype train to grow their brand - the Android enthusiast community is a tiny portion of their sales revenue, thus not that important really no matter what they say - come on Peter Lao and Carl Pei - show us with action that you really care about the Android enthusiast community with action including ensuring that your support team is ready to help us modders just as much as helping the average Joe - how about actually releasing the source code for the BLOB's to give us working HAL's so that we can actually use the hardware we have paid for the way that we want to. I attended the one plus 'open ears' event in London last year and spent the day on a working group with Carl, he seems like a genuinely nice guy, and super committed to his company and it seemed to us the users - my challenge to you Carl and Peter - show us that you are really 'listening' and stay true to where you began with the support you relied on in the early days from the Android enthusiast community by really supporting us rather than just passing lip service.
Now let's see how 'open' op is really and see if this post gets censured (I've kept a copy just in case it does get scrubbed and of course will start a brand new thread with it if need be!)
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Funk Wizard said:
I regret the inconvenience and feel sad that you did not have an enjoyable experience on contacting support as that is not what one would expect. Do you happen to have a ticket no or the transcript of the chat and/or the remote session ?
I can get someone to look into it, Thanks.
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I gave them my email address, full name, both IMEI numbers - so with all that info one would hope that there is some records somewhere.
Wait, yes, they sent me an email as well and booked in a remote session so that am engineer could flash my device - which was pretty infuriating really as clearly I am more than capable of doing that myself, if they just gave me the IMG file that they were surely going to flash my device with lol.
Shall we take this chat to telegram in private?
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mauronofrio said:
I think this is not the right thread where to speak about oneplus support
I hope this time i will included in OnePlus dev program, for the OnePlus 6 the community bought me the device and i made fastboot roms, tool and i pushed the actual OnePlus 6 official TWRP. @FuNk Wizard what do you think? will this be possible?
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Of course, you are absolutely right - I had no desire to hijack your development thread, I was simply responding to the claim made by @funkwizard that op really cares about the Android enthusiast community - I will create a new thread in the 6t discussion forum so that this discussion can continue because I believe it is absolutely right to hold op to account. I do hope that op does provide you with a development device as clearly you are a committed dev working to support op community. I for one am very grateful for your work @mauronofrio