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Support Legend Developers?

Hi all,
This is my first post, although I have been following the group for a long time. My post is motivated by the observation that a massive imbalance exists, particularily in the Legend development community.
There is a huge mass of non-contributing users badgering a small group of hard-working developers, whilst free-loading off the many hours they spend trying to improve the Legend for all of us. (BTW - I'm not pointing any fingers that don't equally apply to myself!) The value of the hours they are putting in is huge, and the return amounts only to the occational humble click of a thanks button.
I have written to the XDA owners and proposed that they implement a system whereby users can donate to a specific thread, and that each month the proceeds of thoses donations are distributed to posters according to the distribution of new "thanks" clicks to them. Unfortunately I have not heard anything in reply, so in the meantime I propose that we start here in the Legend development forum in a less systematic way.
For example; all of us eagerly following ogo2's thread on his Alpha rom should support how we can. We have all heard BlaYO's hesitance to get too involved in that he needs another Legend to do development work on, as he can't render his own out of service for days on end. Absolutely fair point. I would suggest that all active developers in here create a donation account somewhere so that the rest of us ungrateful, free-loading scavengers (again, myself included, and meant in the most positive way! ) can contribute.
Let's get BlaYO a second development Legend, or ogo2 some resources on Linux compilation etc. It's the least we can do, even if we are just selfishly offering to help them, help us
It would not take much, and I am quite certain that anyone who can afford a Legend can also afford to donate $10-20 now and then. What a small price to pay for all the hours that our devs spend working to bring all of us the latest and greatest. Let's give something back!

There were a bunch of users that actually donated to my PayPal account (a few months ago I didn't believe this could happen by the way).
I'd personally object to such a system for various reasons, the main one being complication of something which is a pretty simple in fact: You like the work of someone, you donate (or buy).
Moreover, there are a few CM developers whose work on their device (which happens to use an msm7227 chipset) directly influences the Legend too and therefore my work as well. They are not active in the Legend forum though.
So what I basically want to say: There's a lot of work going on – not hours but weeks – which you might never see because these almost unmoderated boards here are full of you-name-it and every CM developer I know pretty much dislikes XDA for that very reason.
You don't see us (40+ developers) working, but that doesn't mean we aren't.
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Ah, and by the way, I've been busy too, so tiwlan on 2.6.35 is almost finished.

ali ba said:
Ah, and by the way, I've been busy too, so tiwlan on 2.6.35 is almost finished.
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Is this meaning that the new CM7s will have the new kernel?
By the way, what was modified in the kernel source so the tiwlan didn't compile normaly?

I don't need a new Legend, I just need some peace...

There you go
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I don't need a new Legend, I just need some peace...
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Peace be with you

Hmmm... OK, I get that my proposal could have some shortcomings, however the intent is good. It's great to hear that users donated to your Paypal, Ali Ba, perhaps other devs should just publish Paypal details too, and users can direct donations to where they feel they are most deserved?
It is not meant to be fair compensation for the numerous hours spent, as the basic principles of community development should still be the driving force. It could, however, be a token of appreciation from those unable to contribute in any other way.
I can't help but feel that there would be more devs involved with more and faster progress as a consequence, if only there was a little reward in there too. Surely that would be in everybodies interest.
In any event, I offer my thanks to all the devs here, and I would be happy to back that up with a contribution, should you decide to go that way

ali ba said:
Ah, and by the way, I've been busy too, so tiwlan on 2.6.35 is almost finished.
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I was working on getting wl12xx driver working with 2.6.32 kernel but I didn't succeed yet. Is there a reason not to switch to wl12xx driver instead? It also provides soft AP support int the same driver.
Regarding donations, it would be nice if I could donate you via Google checkout.
Thanks.

Yea leave Blay0 alone man, He's getting enough hassle on the Alpha thread as it is! people say they'd like to help then just request more things like a2sd,overclocked kernel etc.If you know anything about linux try helping by trying to build drivers for the last 2 bits (i.e Bluetooth,wifi)

I must say also that there were individuals who offered me donations which I respectfully refused and instead apoint those guys to their nearest charity. I'm not doing this for money (I make money doing other things) I'm just doing it coz I like to know how things work and I always like to learn new things. So if I become bored those donations definitely won't convince me to keep on doing it.
Don't you guys ever think that I'm doing all this for you! Noooope! I'm doing it for me and my own satisfaction. Yes, that's right I'm actualy a selfish, egoistic basterd but in a process of achieving my own goals (which are also inspired by some of your suggestions) I'm really happy if someone else learn something from me. They are few but it doesn't matter... they will definitelly pass on their knowledge and that's important coz I believe knowledge is universal and must be available to anyone willing to accept it and you cannot charge for that.
Don't kidd yourselves, this Legend thingie will be among us at most for another year and then it will get its successors and its community will become even smaller and eventually it will be disbanded and some of us will find new projects, learnig new thing and again passing on all the gained knowledge.

BlaY0 said:
Don't kidd yourselves, this Legend thingie will be among us at most for another year.
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A whole year is an optimistic approach
The main problem in the development of the HTC Legend is the device itself. It's a rare phone, and pretty much a very small group of people is using it. That also makes the group of talented developers thinner. Look at the Hero or SGS forums topic/post count. Sure - most of them are retarded, and previously answered questions, but still folks in the dev section are coding some crazy and amazing stuff. That's because those devices where popular and successful. The HTC Legend was ment to be the successor of the HTC Hero, but this ain't gonna happen. Nobody will remember this phone in a year or two. That's of course HTCs fault, not ours.
Also mentioning all the request, demands and stupid questions in the dev forum - this forum is not that bad
Go check the Nexus S section. For example the NexusSense topic (my girlfriend got a Nexus so I'm somewhat interested). Now that's pure fukcin massacre out there
Greets!
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA Premium App

cyRq said:
A whole year is an optimistic approach
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Agreed, I thought Legend was a kickass sucessor, but very few people actually bought it...I've deserted to Desire S, but I think that's a very similar case so far anyways...
But back on topic: The thing is, everyone has an interest in what he's doing and unless he has a gain from that work he wouldn't be doing it But the idea of donating is noble ofcourse
Let's support our developers by not asking stupid and obvious questions, using search button, hitting that freakin' "thanks" button as often as we can, and most importantly by using our own brains to gain even more from their work

Dr.Romca said:
Let's support our developers by not asking stupid and obvious questions, using search button, hitting that freakin' "thanks" button as often as we can, and most importantly by using our own brains to gain even more from their work
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Amen! (10char )

Agree with the great Dr!
PLUS This is a General thread so should be in the general section.....Threads should go into the right forums for a start! Hate to think how many threads there are in the wrong place :/

[Q] Buy knzo a OB

Hey guys, I just wanna do a quick survey, how many ppl would help, to get knzo a new/used P970, so he can join back to our section. Since this seems to be the only Problem, that keeps him from joining back...
So I wanna get a quick resonance, of how many people here would join me.
I WANNA HAVE HIM BACK BADLY!
You know he already did great things for us, so lets reward this to him and help financing this phone.
Let's see how many ppl we can get together here, and then we can talk about, how much everyone is willing to pay.
I only want you to reply, if your sure about willing to pay.
I am thinking about a max amount of 5€/person, since I think this is an amout, that everyone can effort.
And you all want a great ROM, I am quite sure
And we got a lot of members around here and most only take the files and use them, like me as well. But somewhen comes the time for payback
So gimme a quick feedback, if you are willing to join me.
Hope we get enough ppl together.

He is already exist p970?

N00BY0815 said:
I am thinking about a max amount of 5€/person, since I think this is an amout, that everyone can effort.
And you all want a great ROM, I am quite sure
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I am willing, but need knzo's update if he's willing to support us, and for how long (let's say untill we have stable ICS... ).
I've donated once Samsung Galaxy i5700 developer, he got the phone, but never finished the job he was meant to do (done lot of other great stuff, but no 3d driver).

+1. knzo would be the biggest addition back to the P970.
i am willing to contribute, but am a student without any account or card.
all i can have is cash from mah parents
but i can afford 10 euro if it is possible to get bank transfer going. i'll do it frm mah dads a/c.
i think we should get a bounty going???....& this topic should be stickied to the Q&A sub forum.

I already wrote, I wouldnt want anyone to pay more than 5 euros. But I was writing with him a bit and he doesnt know, if he really wants/is able to come back, for some personal reasons.
I guess everyone would understand this as well, since we all/or most at least should have a private life as well. So lets see, how it turns out and if he wants to come back, I'll revive this thread and we'll let the money flow to him

knzo would be the biggest addition back to the P970.
Please come back
Greetings

Anyone donated something? And what's with knzzo do he know this?
Sent from my LG-P970 using XDA App

I think he doesnt know until now, but better wait with donations, since he isnt sure, if he really wants to come back

[CLOSED]BOUNTY-Collecting funds to donate Ideos X6-Deadline 30 November 2012

Dear Friends
I have now started refunding the sum, kindly provide your account details
List of donors and refunded
1. aeoi : INR 277/- (USD 05)Refunded Already
2. k1chy : INR 1000/- (USD 18)Refunded Already
3. nayneshdev : INR 1000/- (USD 18)Refunded Already
4. vivekb : INR 1000/- (USD 18) Refunded Already
5. ypkonline : INR 800/- (USD 15)Refunded Already
Total raised: INR 4077/- (USD 74)
Mod edit Just keeping this post link here for all ref : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31070299&postcount=14

Please count me into this . I am ready to donate for this noble deed .

nayneshdev said:
Dear Friends
I have read that both ardx and the pranam want to sell their device. The price at which the pranam wants to sell the device is about INR 8000 which is < $150.
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Currently the Cherry Mobile Magnum HD (Huawei X6 U9000) is P7999 or $181 brand new from the Philippines with stocks available and one year warranty.
Considering pranam's phone is nearing a year old and has no warranty it would more likely be worth < $90. Keep in mind this is also going to a Dev and not aiming to fetch near retail.
We have two members from the Philippines @ XDA, Aeoi and myself. I will only help source a new unit if the person is a proven Dev.

+1 to mttBLK .... I am also ready to help

mattBLK said:
Currently the Cherry Mobile Magnum HD (Huawei X6 U9000) is P7999 or $181 brand new from the Philippines with stocks available and one year warranty.
Considering pranam's phone is nearing a year old and has no warranty it would more likely be worth < $90. Keep in mind this is also going to a Dev and not aiming to fetch near retail.
We have two members from the Philippines @ XDA, Aeoi and myself. I will only help source a new unit if the person is a proven Dev.
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Well i wasnt actually marketing for anyones device. I was worried that one by one we are losing devs and there is no way in near future i am going to sell my devce. That's a really good news that it is so cheap and you are willing to help. Lets see now I need suggestions for potential devs. Guys recommended devs and then we first contact them and ask if they could really help.
Sent from my FIH-FB0 using xda app-developers app

Now things are starting to get cool.
^_^

nayneshdev said:
Well i wasnt actually marketing for anyones device. I was worried that one by one we are losing devs and there is no way in near future i am going to sell my devce. That's a really good news that it is so cheap and you are willing to help. Lets see now I need suggestions for potential devs. Guys recommended devs and then we first contact them and ask if they could really help.
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You have great intentions and i praise you for trying to keep our devices fresh.
Do we have a capable Dev in mind that has not got a X6 and would be able/guarantee to help out?
I think Aeoi said, unless we get source from Foxconn/Motorola/Sharp we are stuck with what we have already achieved and cant move on with JB anyway.
Me personally.. im going to wait a couple of months and and look to upgrade to a 1GB Ram unit probably the Huawei Ascend P1 or similar.
cheers

I had some communication with Dzo[http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492957] and he says that he has lots of code which can be really helpful for our device but the problem is that he doesn't have sufficient time to develop for another device. Now we need a developer who is good at modding the kernel source like tj sir. Guys if you happen to know anyone please contact him and let us know. Meanwhile i am trying to contact some other devs and see if they can help.
Thanks

I had some communication with Dzo[http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492957] and he says that he has lots of code which can be really helpful for our device but the problem is that he doesn't have sufficient time to develop for another device. Now we need a developer who is good at modding the kernel source like tj sir. Guys if you happen to know anyone please contact him and let us know. Meanwhile i am trying to contact some other devs and see if they can help.
Thanks

Randomblame has shown willingness
Dear friends
There is some good news. Randomblame [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778202 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827590] from Desire HD forum has shown willingness for development for our device. From his posts it looks like that he has sufficient experience for developing from source. Friends please advise what you think about the developer and should we go about donating? I will also inform the developer about the fact that we do not have the latest android kernel and that only have sources for 0.32 and 0.35 and ask if he can really port the latest kernel?
Randomblame's reply " Actually I'd love to work on it I've been looking for a new platform that wasn't so crowded with devs "
I had also had some communication with Lord Clockan and he also said that he doesn't have sufficient time for development.

nayneshdev said:
Dear friends
There is some good news. Randomblame [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778202 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827590] from Desire HD forum has shown willingness for development for our device. From his posts it looks like that he has sufficient experience for developing from source. Friends please advise what you think about the developer and should we go about donating? I will also inform the developer about the fact that we do not have the latest android kernel and that only have sources for 0.32 and 0.35 and ask if he can really port the latest kernel?
Randomblame's reply " Actually I'd love to work on it I've been looking for a new platform that wasn't so crowded with devs "
I had also had some communication with Lord Clockan and he also said that he doesn't have sufficient time for development.
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So it's time to decide cost of mobile and start donating... As you initiated this move, are you interested to take lead for collection of donation and final transaction for mobile.... also please list out the interested donator so we can get idea how much we can amass for this move..
Good move naynesh.
Sent from my LEWA empowered machine... by using XDA

vivekb said:
So it's time to decide cost of mobile and start donating... As you initiated this move, are you interested to take lead for collection of donation and final transaction for mobile.... also please list out the interested donator so we can get idea how much we can amass for this move..
Good move naynesh.
Sent from my LEWA empowered machine... by using XDA
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Hi vivek and others
I can certainly collect the money for donations but should only for indians because the sum will be transferred to mattBLK in phillipines and cross border payments will incur some forex charges (3%- 4%). So those who are not staying in india should donate directly to mattBLK. Regarding this i have talked with mattBLK to create a thread wherein the details of his account and other details will be given. If he advises then even i am willing to collect the donations and transfer the sum to his local bank account.
The sum that we will have to raise will be for the cost of device (about $181) and shipping to usa charges(may be $20 to $40 depending on the service desired). So the target should be placed around $210 - $220 (pranam has reduced the price to < $128 and if we are short of donations then we can think of buying his device or may be even ardX if anyone knows the price of his device). I think i had made a list of members @ XDA and found that we have more than 60 members plus some others if they are willing from andro-id and droidsans. Raising this sum will require some dedication from our members as the number of members is not even in hundreds let alone thousands as is the case for any other device. I believe each one of us should contribute at least $2, which shouldn't be a big deal for most of us.
Thanks

hi
ok thread is re opened
@nayneshdev
pls mention all details on the 1st page as i had Pmed to u
u also need to be transparent interms of the donations received and the final execution of the same ie when the phone is purchased and given u need to give full details OK and this is totally personal XDA gives no guarantee on the out come of this bounty OK

Hey guys I've agreed to work on the x6 if one is sent my way. I can't promise that I will meet any specific goals in any specific time frame - but I do promise to work on it.
Anxious to start playing with it

randomblame said:
Hey guys I've agreed to work on the x6 if one is sent my way. I can't promise that I will meet any specific goals in any specific time frame - but I do promise to work on it.
Anxious to start playing with it
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Wow!
Things are getting cooler little by little.
Thank you Sir randomblame for having interest in developing FIH-FB0.

randomblame said:
Hey guys I've agreed to work on the x6 if one is sent my way. I can't promise that I will meet any specific goals in any specific time frame - but I do promise to work on it.
Anxious to start playing with it
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thanks bro for the confirmation .... now we will start the things and hope so we will sort out very soon,

updated first page
Update info about the bounty given on first page.

nayneshdev said:
Update info about the bounty given on first page.
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hi
good ur 1st page is very transparent thats how it should be
goodluck:good::laugh:

nayneshdev said:
Update info about the bounty given on first page.
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Good day nayneshdev.
PayPal says:
We're sorry. We're not able to complete personal payments to account holders in India at this time.
Why is that so?

Oh is that so. Let me check. My account is verified but probably it might the policy of PayPal India. I will look into the matter. Thanks for trying though.
edit : Updated with paypal, please try again.

[DISCUSSION][Q] How we can help improve CM

As you guys now our phones' chance to get a full working CM is growing each day thanks to biel. But the main problem is he doesn't have our phone so he can only work with testers. This takes a lot of time cause he can't check what he did right after what he did.
He said that he is saving the money from the donations to Buy our phone. So I think there's a lot of people who has this phone and don't want to or can't sell it but they want to make it better. What if all of us donates* to him just 1 euro (or az he/she feels)? Or every person who asks "when ics and jb..?" Rememeber this is not a command to send money to biel. This is just and idea of how WE can help!
*His donation page: http://bieltv3.blogspot.com.es/p/donations.html
If you've done it maybe u can write in the comment section below or whatever if people will see this working they will join.
And just to be clear donating means give something NOT expecting to get back!

Really good idea of making this thread.....I will definately try to give my token of appreciation.....
Sent From Devil's Cave

As Biel mentioned few times i think the people has done what they can. And posting a topic like this makes people more demanding. And if Biel cant make CM stable or without bugs. The people will start to shout i give money why dont you do it.
No offence but let people donate what they want when they want. Sorry if i seem like against this but i try to did best i can and dont want any extra pressure on Biel. Thanks.
:: Broke my leg. Not in the mood of talking. ::

ChelebiTech said:
As Biel mentioned few times i think the people has done what they can. And posting a topic like this makes people more demanding. And if Biel cant make CM stable or without bugs. The people will start to shout i give money why dont you do it.
No offence but let people donate what they want when they want. Sorry if i seem like against this but i try to did best i can and dont want any extra pressure on Biel. Thanks.
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Thats why I cleared the concept of donation in the post. I understand your concern about biel i have it too, I tried to create the thread to make people understand that he is doing us a Favour and above the donation all we can do is to be Thankful for him nothing else He already made the job to deserve the donations!

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Thats why I cleared the concept of donation in the post. I understand your concern about biel i have it too, I tried to create the thread to make people understand that he is doing us a Favour and above the donation all we can do is to be Thankful for him nothing else He already made the job to deserve the donations!
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Yes you are right. But no one can control the thougts of people especially newbies and noobs. And my concern is if people starts to write abnormal then Biel or the ones helping CM lost their Will to work. Just saying....
:: Broke my leg. Not in the mood of talking. ::

ChelebiTech said:
Yes you are right. But no one can control the thougts of people especially newbies and noobs. And my concern is if people starts to write abnormal then Biel or the ones helping CM lost their Will to work. Just saying....
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True, but maybe it can be the opposite too i mean for him to see how many people stands behind him. All of the danger you're telling is true I was thiking for weeks to create this thread. If it is going bad within a few days i delete my thread or whatever

Ok guys, first of all thanks for make this thread. You both are right, I mean, donations can be better for developing or worser. That depends on donators, they are donating me his money, because they think I'm doing a good work for free / to get the device.
Here it comes the misunderstandings: People usually think that, if they donate me some money, I work for him, so I must fix all bugs, release things when he want... and if not? They will argue against me.
Donators must now a few things, I think most of devs know, but not noob/newbies that donate to me. Improving CM is really dificult because of lack of sources, that won't change even if I have the device. So we maybe never get a 100% CM, but we can make a daily one, which that can be good challange.
Remember too, I'm from Galaxy Ace community, and I've my projects there too, CM 10.1 is my major one, so I can not abandon those projects just because a guy donate me the money. I think everyone could understand that.
I don't want to force people doanting me, donations are from people that appreciate my work, and they are voluntary! I'm not obligation anyone, and I won't do that ever. And if you donate, don't spect to be recompensed, maybe you won't, and that must be in your head while you are doanting me.
This thread for me is okey (as moderator asked me), but remeber if that causes some problems on me, or on XDA rules, this thread must be closed, but for now is okey.
Thanks, Biel.

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Beta to Final..."a long wait"

its known that development for our phone is difficult due to lack of hardware sources...still developers are trying to port things up for this...
but its been a quite long time since in the development thread almost all roms are in beta stage..they are reaching to usable stage...I would request devs to speed up the process and please dont put everything under beta for long periods...

I guess that everyone works with blood sweat and tears on their roms. Just have some patience...
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To be honest, very few number of people use this phone... Its not as popular as S3 or S2 (thats the main drawback of most mid range phones)
And out of all those users, only a very few number of people have knowledge about Android (aka the developers).... And since we're always busy with our lives, jobs, exams, classes, etc. So no one can give complete attention to all this...
Yes, after the JB update - this phone got a boost in a "Development" point of view... I mean we now have more ROMs, themes, Mods, etc... But i believe that all we need are more experienced developers (and users) to help the existing developers and contribute something to this phone's dev support...
As Shaaan said, we are all good at something... So why not form a team and utilize it for better and faster development process for this phone
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droidinsane said:
its known that development for our phone is difficult due to lack of hardware sources...still developers are trying to port things up for this...
but its been a quite long time since in the development thread almost all roms are in beta stage..they are reaching to usable stage...I would request devs to speed up the process and please dont put everything under beta for long periods...
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I would demand from you to learn to develop, and make all that betas to be final. How that sounds? You would do that in the speed of the light.
And please turn on the brain for little time and see that all those beta ROMs are mods of CM, that is in beta stage. And we do not have sources to fix all the bugs fast.
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^ What he said, if you can't wait for it, do it yourself.

Tired of this kind of people who can't contribute something other than demanding. Maybe if you can ''DONATE'' thats the least you can do rather than learning how to develop instead of posting nonsense. Ok? Just a suggestion bro.
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nobody is expecting to get something done with the speed of light ....i am just saying that if some project is started wait for the final version should not be this long and cm10.1 was started months ago still no final version then whats the point of starting new projects based on that... as far as time availability i concerned nobody is forcing anyone to start a new stuff and hang up in beta they have their own will to do that...and the one who is tired of people like me i would humbly request you to not comment rather you should contribute community needs you....commenting will make you feel tired...
that was an opinion if you are really hurt by that...please learn to look at things differently

This guy is real piece of work....
Do you even know what beta means ?? If devs hold on to the project until its final, how the hell would they get people to test it ???
As for how long a beta takes, you are in no position to demand anything. Dev's work for free to give you a better phone experience, if you want things done fast, grab a pile of you own money, pay a bunch of people to develop something for you. Whenever someone is doing free work for you, the right thing to do is keep you head down and be grateful that they even share their work with you for free.

Piachnp said:
This guy is real piece of work....
Do you even know what beta means ?? If devs hold on to the project until its final, how the hell would they get people to test it ???
As for how long a beta takes, you are in no position to demand anything. Dev's work for free to give you a better phone experience, if you want things done fast, grab a pile of you own money, pay a bunch of people to develop something for you. Whenever someone is doing free work for you, the right thing to do is keep you head down and be grateful that they even share their work with you for free.
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so now you will tell me what beta means go mate you have more important work to do...
let this forum be what it should be...dont make it a ground for useless arguements...i had an opinion now dont be a teacher here,,

droidinsane said:
nobody is expecting to get something done with the speed of light ....i am just saying that if some project is started wait for the final version should not be this long and cm10.1 was started months ago still no final version then whats the point of starting new projects based on that... as far as time availability i concerned nobody is forcing anyone to start a new stuff and hang up in beta they have their own will to do that...and the one who is tired of people like me i would humbly request you to not comment rather you should contribute community needs you....commenting will make you feel tired...
that was an opinion if you are really hurt by that...please learn to look at things differently
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How can you even expect CM10.1 to work. It's 4.2 based... damn...
And no one says you can't give your opinion, it's just the way you said it. With your post you insulted everyone trying to work on CM etc because according to YOU the development doesn't go as fast as you want.
And don't say: don't play teacher on me I just have an opinion. Because I AM a damn teacher and you need to be taught some patience...
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LOL to those who can't wait. Buy a new phone, more popular ones. Then enjoy it to your heart content. End of story.
There will be more beta's then there will be rc's before final version. If you can't wait, might as well consider buying other device. Your choice. No argument here

droidinsane said:
its known that development for our phone is difficult due to lack of hardware sources...still developers are trying to port things up for this...
but its been a quite long time since in the development thread almost all roms are in beta stage..they are reaching to usable stage...I would request devs to speed up the process and please dont put everything under beta for long periods...
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Please delete this thread. The pointless character of it is beyond any measure.
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Too much fail in this thread
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