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[Q] About S-Off

It seems like the only way to S-Off Vivid required some wire trick. I never done something like that b4...
What do I miss if I leave it S-ON? I already unlock bootloader, custom recovery and rooted.
Thanks anyone for answering.

Apart from being able to flash radios (to the best of my knowledge there aren't any custom/better ones for the vivid, yet), there are kernals being built that require s-off. And with s-off you can flash roms/images that are unsigned to the phone, regardless of what carrier or region you're in; other words, you can flash whatever Rom you like so its imperative that everything about the Rom you're installing is read and understood to avoid confusion and ultimately, a bricked device... That's pretty much it in a nutshell. I hope that cleared it up for you
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g33mt4z said:
Apart from being able to flash radios (to the best of my knowledge there aren't any custom/better ones for the vivid, yet), there are kernals being built that require s-off. And with s-off you can flash roms/images that are unsigned to the phone, regardless of what carrier or region you're in; other words, you can flash whatever Rom you like so its imperative that everything about the Rom you're installing is read and understood to avoid confusion and ultimately, a bricked device... That's pretty much it in a nutshell. I hope that cleared it up for you
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First part about radios is wrong. You need an ENG HBOOT to do it, which we still don't have. Sure, S-Off lets us flash custom HBOOTs, but we're still not there yet.
Second part about kernels requiring it is also wrong. You can always flash kernels as a fastboot flash boot boot.img, then CWM the modules in. It's always been the case, and is not changing with AOSP or any of that stuff. AOSP doesn't require S-Off, neither does Sense 4, neither does any preexisting nor future kernel.
Third part about unsigned ROMs is partially wrong. You can flash other regions' RUU updates with the superCID. Still doesn't let you do custom ROMs themselves; for that, the unlocked bootloader process is still valid, and you will need some form of recovery (CWM, WCX, TWRP, etc).

Aus_Azn said:
First part about radios is wrong. You need an ENG HBOOT to do it, which we still don't have. Sure, S-Off lets us flash custom HBOOTs, but we're still not there yet.
Second part about kernels requiring it is also wrong. You can always flash kernels as a fastboot flash boot boot.img, then CWM the modules in. It's always been the case, and is not changing with AOSP or any of that stuff. AOSP doesn't require S-Off, neither does Sense 4, neither does any preexisting nor future kernel.
Third part about unsigned ROMs is partially wrong. You can flash other regions' RUU updates with the superCID. Still doesn't let you do custom ROMs themselves; for that, the unlocked bootloader process is still valid, and you will need some form of recovery (CWM, WCX, TWRP, etc).
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Actually my kernel does require s-off now if you want to keep it up to date. If you are fine using a less feature rich and possibly unstable s-on version of it then that's fine
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Thank you everyone for replying.
So this is what I get:
with S-OFF,
1) I can flash hboot (boot.img)
2) Within recovery (CWM or alike), I can flash Custom ROM zip that has build-in kernel
Is that correct?
BTW, is there SuperCID for Vivid yet?
Thanks again,

RayYung said:
Thank you everyone for replying.
So this is what I get:
with S-OFF,
1) I can flash hboot (boot.img)
2) Within recovery (CWM or alike), I can flash Custom ROM zip that has build-in kernel
Is that correct?
BTW, is there SuperCID for Vivid yet?
Thanks again,
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1. HBOOT is not a boot.img, it's an .nb0 file (the bootloader itself). boot.img is a kernel.
2. Yes.
3. Yes, it's 11111111 like most other HTC devices.

Thanks Aus_Azn,
I guess I mixed up hboot and kernel....
I know 11111111 is THE SuperCID for all device but is there a SuperCID hack for Vivid yet?

HTC Incredible S 2.3.5 most easiest root

Hello, Iam noob in rooting and there is sooo much information about that, so my head goes burn, my simple question is only - can you recommend me the most easiest way to root my Incredible S? I want to install new ROM. Version Hboot 2.00, android 2.3.5 and never S-OFF, rooted. I have to downgrade HBOOT? Thank you so much

Oh look it's first sticky on the forum! Just a simple read through the first page of the forum might help just sayin'.
Anyways, this seems to be the easiest way to root...it's definitely easy to understand even if you have few to minimum understanding of rooting and flashing.

Incredible2011 said:
Oh look it's first sticky on the forum! Just a simple read through the first page of the forum might help just sayin'.
Anyways, this seems to be the easiest way to root...it's definitely easy to understand even if you have few to minimum understanding of rooting and flashing.
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I have problem and I hope you can help me my question:My phone is s off,but I have never use custom recovery and custom rom and I have never do root,my version is 2.3.5 hboot:2.0000 I want to root my phone but I dont want to do that with unlocked method.How can I root my phone,I say again My phone is already s off.and I wantto use this method.

hasi56 said:
I have problem and I hope you can help me my question:My phone is s off,but I have never use custom recovery and custom rom and I have never do root,my version is 2.3.5 hboot:2.0000 I want to root my phone but I dont want to do that with unlocked method.How can I root my phone,I say again My phone is already s off.and I wantto use this method.
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Since you are already S-OFF, then you should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery in FASTBOOT USB mode. Once you have CWM installed, you can make a 'nandroid' backup of your current ROM, apps and settings. Then you can flash the latest and greatest version of su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
This will leave your current ROM, apps and settings intact.

tpbklake said:
Since you are already S-OFF, then you should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery in FASTBOOT USB mode. Once you have CWM installed, you can make a 'nandroid' backup of your current ROM, apps and settings. Then you can flash the latest and greatest version of su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
This will leave your current ROM, apps and settings intact.
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Thank you,so I can root my phone with any expression(s off method) even though my phone h boot version is 2.ooooo(but my phone is already s off) am I right? and I dont understand,is there new root old root advantageous root,I havent heard that,I knew rooting is fixed

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hasi56 said:
Thank you,so I can root my phone with any expression(s off method) even though my phone h boot version is 2.ooooo(but my phone is already s off) am I right? and I dont understand,is there new root old root advantageous root,I havent heard that,I knew rooting is fixed
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Since you have permanent S-OFF, you don't have to worry about whether to unlock HBOOT 2.00.0000 or downgrading to run Revolutionary, etc.
You should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery, you could flash HBOOT 1.13, flash a new radio, etc.
You just need to get familiar with using FASTBOOT USB mode and all of the options that fastboot.exe can do.
I am speaking from experience. I have a permanent S-OFF IncS and even after I run the Android 2.3.5/Sense 3.0 RUU and it upgraded my HBOOT to version 2.00.0000, I was able to flash ClockworkMod recovery and install su-3.0.x.zip and root the ROM. I have also since reflashed back to HBOOT 1.13.

tpbklake said:
Since you have permanent S-OFF, you don't have to worry about whether to unlock HBOOT 2.00.0000 or downgrading to run Revolutionary, etc.
You should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery, you could flash HBOOT 1.13, flash a new radio, etc.
You just need to get familiar with using FASTBOOT USB mode and all of the options that fastboot.exe can do.
I am speaking from experience. I have a permanent S-OFF IncS and even after I run the Android 2.3.5/Sense 3.0 RUU and it upgraded my HBOOT to version 2.00.0000, I was able to flash ClockworkMod recovery and install su-3.0.x.zip and root the ROM. I have also since reflashed back to HBOOT 1.13.
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I understanda a lot of thingss Im grateful to you,but you said you could flash hboot 1.13 what is our purpose by doing this processing?

hasi56 said:
I understanda a lot of thingss Im grateful to you,but you said you could flash hboot 1.13 what is our purpose by doing this processing?
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With HBOOT 1.13, ClockworkMod recovery is able to flash a custom ROM in one step. With HBOOT 2.00.0000, after you flash a custom ROM in ClockworkMod, you manually have to extract and flash the boot.img file in the custom ROM's zip file. In other words it is easier to flash custom ROM's with CWM and HBOOT 1.13 than it is with HBOOT 2.00

tpbklake said:
With HBOOT 1.13, ClockworkMod recovery is able to flash a custom ROM in one step. With HBOOT 2.00.0000, after you flash a custom ROM in ClockworkMod, you manually have to extract and flash the boot.img file in the custom ROM's zip file. In other words it is easier to flash custom ROM's with CWM and HBOOT 1.13 than it is with HBOOT 2.00
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Thank you very very much,apolgize me i have one more question i want ti root my cell phone after ics.can i do same thing your root Expression after ics ?

hasi56 said:
Thank you very very much,apolgize me i have one more question i want ti root my cell phone after ics.can i do same thing your root Expression after ics ?
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The only option you have right now for ICS is to run a custom ROM from the Development section and all of those are already rooted.
If you are talking about the official ICS OTA/ROM from HTC, we will have to wait and see if it will be rootable or not.
Once again since you have a permanent S-OFF on your phone, you shouldn't have to worry about. If you install the official ICS ROM and you lose root, you should be able to reflash CWM and then install su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.

tpbklake said:
The only option you have right now for ICS is to run a custom ROM from the Development section and all of those are already rooted.
If you are talking about the official ICS OTA/ROM from HTC, we will have to wait and see if it will be rootable or not.
Once again since you have a permanent S-OFF on your phone, you shouldn't have to worry about. If you install the official ICS ROM and you lose root, you should be able to reflash CWM and then install su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
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Thank you very very very much,you helped me a lot,

My phone is htc inc s,i use original rom,but i did root i bought a new sensation xe's beats audio headphones and i want tk use beats mod in my phone when i use headphone like sensation xe,is this imposibble i hop i can tell my question

hasi56 said:
My phone is s off,but I have never use custom recovery and custom rom and I have never do root,my version is 2.3.5 hboot:2.0000
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Stupid question, how did you achieve s-off with hboot:2.0000? As I understand, Revolutionary doesn't yet support hboot:2.0000?

alexbk66 said:
Stupid question, how did you achieve s-off with hboot:2.0000? As I understand, Revolutionary doesn't yet support hboot:2.0000?
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No a stupid question because the answer isn't very obvious, but the is a sticky post in the General forum that describes a process where you can downgrade the ROM and HBOOT to a version that Revolutionary does support.
Check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
or here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705913

[Q] confused about S-on vs S-off

For what it's worth, I have a new SIM unlocked Bell Mobility Raider upgraded to the latest stock ICS. Bootloader still locked, no root, S-ON
I am thinking of trying different kernels and ROMs but I don't want to do the whole S-OFF thing (I find it insane that we need to do the whole wire trick)
So far, my understanding is that with S-ON, I can unlock the bootloader, then get root access to the phone, then flash a new kernel using fastboot and then flash a new ROM.
With S-off it would make it easier to flash kernel and ROM at same time.
Is this correct?
My confusion: I read in some threads that with S-ON, the radio looks at the firmware and won't load a third party kernel/ROM. Is this so?
Can I change the kernel and ROM while keeping S-on, or not? I was thinking of trying the holics kernel which, if I understand it correctly, has a boot image for flashing using fastboot.
Also: with S-on, is it harder to brick the phone/ easier to recover? What happens if the flashing of new kernel fails, can I recover back to stock?

S-on - You cannot flash unsecured
.img files ( kernels, etc. ) in recovery.
S-off - You can flash everything in recovery.
There really isn't any benefit in having S-off unless 1. Your lazy and don't wanna use fastboot 2. You don't have a PC to use fastboot with.
All the Roms/kernels out can be flashed either way.
Sent from Illuminati Land.

Use the HTC Vivid All in One Toolkit v.1.0 by Hasoon 2000, when it tells you to perform the wire trick, peel the ends off a twist tie you use for trash bags, place on the connectors and count,(one thousand one), take the wire off and you've got the easiest way to S-off. It's worth it vs being S-on. It simplifies everything. I know that doesn't answer your whole question but should help.
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using xda premium

Yea ivwas nervous about the wire trick but just follow the guide its really easy as long as you only touch those 2 points you can't go wrong
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using xda premium

Exactly what he said I used a old Co-Axl Cable to do it if that how you spell it LOL sorry it 5:30 in the morning I'm Tired as HELL xD

Yeah, the wire trick isn't bad, but also, it only takes a few extra minutes each time you flash a ROM to flash the kernel over fastboot. No big whip if you don't mind the extra steps. That said, I still recommend S-OFF in case you want to try a stack of ROMS. Then you can switch them on the go without being tethered to a computer.
I'd also recommend using TWRP recovery over CWM for your recoveries, as CWM for our phone doesn't support large backups. If you flash a ROM, install all your apps, backup, flash a new ROM, and decide to restore, you'll be screwed if your backup is over a certain size in CWM. I learned that the hard way, but loosing all my data! (You can use TWRP whether you stick with S-ON or not).

bswann said:
S-on - You cannot flash unsecured
.img files ( kernels, etc. ) in recovery.
S-off - You can flash everything in recovery.
There really isn't any benefit in having S-off unless 1. Your lazy and don't wanna use fastboot 2. You don't have a PC to use fastboot with.
All the Roms/kernels out can be flashed either way.
Sent from Illuminati Land.
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KozmikKernel 13_beta and any newer kernels released by KozmikKick doesn't support and will not work on S-on devices

elbscorp said:
KozmikKernel 13_beta and any newer kernels released by KozmikKick doesn't support and will not work on S-on devices
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Not true, I was running beta 13 with the Elegancia Rom before I switched to WCX Illuminati and I'm S-on.
There is a guide in one of Synergy's threads over on rootz. It involves booting a recovery from fastboot and flashing the kernel then booting into the recovery on the phone to flash the Rom. I used a few times for kernels and it worked every time.
Sent from Illuminati Land.

bswann said:
S-on - You cannot flash unsecured
.img files ( kernels, etc. ) in recovery.
S-off - You can flash everything in recovery.
There really isn't any benefit in having S-off unless 1. Your lazy and don't wanna use fastboot 2. You don't have a PC to use fastboot with.
All the Roms/kernels out can be flashed either way.
Sent from Illuminati Land.
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bswann said:
Not true, I was running beta 13 with the Elegancia Rom before I switched to WCX Illuminati and I'm S-on.
There is a guide in one of Synergy's threads over on rootz. It involves booting a recovery from fastboot and flashing the kernel then booting into the recovery on the phone to flash the Rom. I used a few times for kernels and it worked every time.
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If I am misinformed I apologize. I am S-off and also used Elegancia Rom(Pegasus) I was going by info posted in the ROM thread and Kozmik's thread.
Faqs for Pegasus & Blitz ICS SENSE 3.6
These have only been tested on Amon RA recovery. If you can't find it then Clockwork should work if not try a different recovery.
This rom can only be flashed if you are already on ics.
Also you must have S-Off. If you do not then it should still flash (unsupported) everything except for the boot.img. You will need to extract the boot.img and flash it in fastboot. If you are S-On and elect to flash this then you MUST select Stockish Kernel when you are installing the rom as KozmiKKernel does not support S-Off.
kozmikkick
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I am no longer supporting phones that are not S-Off. Get S-Off now Then just flash zip in recovery and select your options!

Yea, when I read that in kozmick's thread originally that's when I remembered the link in Synergy's thread showing the workaround for it.
Sent from Illuminati Land.

bswann said:
Yea, when I read that in kozmick's thread originally that's when I remembered the link in Synergy's thread showing the workaround for it.
Sent from Illuminati Land.
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Very cool. Would you send me a link to that thread? sounds interesting

elbscorp said:
If I am misinformed I apologize. I am S-off and also used Elegancia Rom(Pegasus) I was going by info posted in the ROM thread and Kozmik's thread.
Faqs for Pegasus & Blitz ICS SENSE 3.6
These have only been tested on Amon RA recovery. If you can't find it then Clockwork should work if not try a different recovery.
This rom can only be flashed if you are already on ics.
Also you must have S-Off. If you do not then it should still flash (unsupported) everything except for the boot.img. You will need to extract the boot.img and flash it in fastboot. If you are S-On and elect to flash this then you MUST select Stockish Kernel when you are installing the rom as KozmiKKernel does not support S-Off.
kozmikkick
Installation:
I am no longer supporting phones that are not S-Off. Get S-Off now Then just flash zip in recovery and select your options!
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Not to get off topic but does that Rom drop to edge all the time? Or does data stay on hspa/lte. Cuz. I tried a different port and it would always drop to edge and stay there even tho I have faster speeds here
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ZeRo2o9 said:
Not to get off topic but does that Rom drop to edge all the time? Or does data stay on hspa/lte. Cuz. I tried a different port and it would always drop to edge and stay there even tho I have faster speeds here
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I didn't have a problem with that

elbscorp said:
Very cool. Would you send me a link to that thread? sounds interesting
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Here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28397272&postcount=214
Its post #214 by daspazz.
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[Q] Htc One S-off to S-on

Hi Guys, have a nice day.
I want to learn something about s-off to s-on. Is this possible ? A device which s-off and then make it s-on ? If Possible how could we do this ?
Thank for helps now

alibalter said:
Hi Guys, have a nice day.
I want to learn something about s-off to s-on. Is this possible ? A device which s-off and then make it s-on ? If Possible how could we do this ?
Thank for helps now
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Yes you can S-ON after you S-OFF with revone: fastboot oem writesecureflag 3 to S-ON again

Yeah, just make sure you have a stock hboot before doing so. You may want to also lock the bootloader first.

alibalter said:
Hi Guys, have a nice day.
I want to learn something about s-off to s-on. Is this possible ? A device which s-off and then make it s-on ? If Possible how could we do this ?
Thank for helps now
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really don't do this, you will regret it later...

godutch said:
really don't do this, you will regret it later...
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why will i regret after it ?

alibalter said:
why will i regret after it ?
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A better question is why would go from s-off to s-on anyway? You might mess up later and wish you still had s-off so you could fix it.
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium

BenPope said:
Yeah, just make sure you have a stock hboot before doing so. You may want to also lock the bootloader first.
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can i change my hboot ? is this possible ?

alibalter said:
why will i regret after it ?
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Read the last 6 pages or so of the revone thread.

alibalter said:
can i change my hboot ? is this possible ?
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With S-OFF, yes.
If you have an unsigned hboot and then S-On, you'll probably brick your phone.

S-on: you only can flash roms and kernels
S-off: you will also be able to update hboot, and firmware, flash splashscreens and remove red warning text from splashscreen and change radio

You may find this thread useful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618

ineedone said:
S-on: you only can flash roms and kernels
S-off: you will also be able to update hboot, and firmware, flash splashscreens and remove red warning text from splashscreen and change radio
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You can still flash radios with S-on. Agree with the others, you'll regret going S-on unless you need to return the phone under warranty.
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farang4u said:
You can still flash radios with S-on. Agree with the others, you'll regret going S-on unless you need to return the phone under warranty.
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Agreed, my mistake thanks for correcting

Thanks everybody for helps.
Now i need another thing. Last thing. I know i'm a bit noob.
I flashed a custom kernel. I want to go back stock kernel. How can i do this ? How can i find stock boot.img ?

alibalter said:
Thanks everybody for helps.
Now i need another thing. Last thing. I know i'm a bit noob.
I flashed a custom kernel. I want to go back stock kernel. How can i do this ? How can i find stock boot.img ?
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get a stock ROM(insertcoin android revolution, etc.), open up the zip and extract the boot.img from the zip file, put it in your Android SDK folder (probably C:/Android), then boot into bootloader, connect USB and get into fastboot mode, and fastboot flash boot boot.img in a command prompt from your Android SDK folder. Backup with your custom recovery and you MIGHT need to wipe data and reinstall ROM (most probably not). You'll know you need to wipe data if you get a bootloop after flashing the Stock Kernel. Just backup before, that's a great rule of thumb

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get a stock ROM(insertcoin android revolution, etc.), open up the zip and extract the boot.img from the zip file, put it in your Android SDK folder (probably C:/Android), then boot into bootloader, connect USB and get into fastboot mode, and fastboot flash boot boot.img in a command prompt from your Android SDK folder. Backup with your custom recovery and you MIGHT need to wipe data and reinstall ROM (most probably not). You'll know you need to wipe data if you get a bootloop after flashing the Stock Kernel. Just backup before, that's a great rule of thumb
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Thank you my friend I got it

[Q] Uhm I need help!

So I was running stock rooted and decided to run the Google Play Edition rom the latest one. It isnt in a bootloop but when I get to the home screen the screen is black, blinks for a second and goes back to being a black screen. Was wondering if I should just let the phone die and see if I could still boot in recovery and maybe flash a backup. But as of now I dont have a phone and would appreciate someones help.

Are you S-ON? If so, did you fastboot flash the boot.img?
Also if you're S-ON, you should S-OFF immediately to avoid these types of situations in the future .

Captain_Throwback said:
Are you S-ON? If so, did you fastboot flash the boot.img?
Also if you're S-ON, you should S-OFF immediately to avoid these types of situations in the future .
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I guess I should add instructions to my guide on how to fastboot flash kernels, huh?
Quick question, Cap. Is fastboot flashing the kernel only required for GPE when S-on, or is it AOSP in general? Reason I ask is I haven't seen much mention of it elsewhere.
Edit: Guide updated with instructions for S-on kernel flashing. Hit the second link in my sig.

Magnum_Enforcer said:
I guess I should add instructions to my guide on how to fastboot flash kernels, huh?
Quick question, Cap. Is fastboot flashing the kernel only required for GPE when S-on, or is it AOSP in general? Reason I ask is I haven't seen much mention of it elsewhere.
Edit: Guide updated with instructions for S-on kernel flashing. Hit the second link in my sig.
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The only time fastboot flashing the kernel should ever be necessary is if the device is S-ON.

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Captain_Throwback said:
Are you S-ON? If so, did you fastboot flash the boot.img?
Also if you're S-ON, you should S-OFF immediately to avoid these types of situations in the future .
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I did some research I found that I should be s off but cant seem to find a way to do it. I tried the firewater way but that didnt seem to work, I heard people saying that it only works for GSM devices. Could you direct me to the source of where I can S off my device? Thanks

brothernc said:
I did some research I found that I should be s off but cant seem to find a way to do it. I tried the firewater way but that didnt seem to work, I heard people saying that it only works for GSM devices. Could you direct me to the source of where I can S off my device? Thanks
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Firewater works on all M8 variants, but some devices aren't compatible. SunShine S-OFF works on all M8s.

Captain_Throwback said:
Firewater works on all M8 variants, but some devices aren't compatible. SunShine S-OFF works on all M8s.
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Alright well yeah that one didnt work on my device and I tried it like 5 times. Also once Im s off....... I wanted to just go over the process so I dont mess anything up, when you said flashboot flash the boot.img what exactly did you mean? Sorry if I am asking a stupid question.

brothernc said:
Alright well yeah that one didnt work on my device and I tried it like 5 times. Also once Im s off....... I wanted to just go over the process so I dont mess anything up, when you said flashboot flash the boot.img what exactly did you mean? Sorry if I am asking a stupid question.
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While S-on you need to fastboot flash the boot.img. Hit the second link in my sig and read down to the portion on S-on kernel flashing. Once S-off you can just flash like normal and ignore the info above.
Sent from my HTC M8

Magnum_Enforcer said:
While S-on you need to fastboot flash the boot.img. Hit the second link in my sig and read down to the portion on S-on kernel flashing. Once S-off you can just flash like normal and ignore the info above.
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So I if I fastboot flash the boot img while im s off I would have no reason to s off?

brothernc said:
So I if I fastboot flash the boot img while im s off I would have no reason to s off?
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Update: I flashed the kernel through fastboot and it worked sorta I got to the welcome screen where it asks me my language but then keeps boot looping. Any idea.

brothernc said:
So I if I fastboot flash the boot img while im s off I would have no reason to s off?
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There are other reasons to S-off. Perhaps you should read the entire Hboot guide I wrote for the M8, not just the portion regarding flashing kernels while S-on.

Magnum_Enforcer said:
There are other reasons to S-off. Perhaps you should read the entire Hboot guide I wrote for the M8, not just the portion regarding flashing kernels while S-on.
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Alright so i fixed the issue, when I flashed the rom without doing a full wipe, then flashing the SU that seemed to do the trick. Not 100% sure why but it works perfectly fine with no issued. Thanks for all your help.