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A system update is available

Hi guys
I have the Sensation and the Flyer so these days I was too busy trying to S-OFF them and to gain perm root. (no luck yet) During this time my Incredible S was turned off this means I have been away from my Incredible S for a month now.
Today I turned my Incredible S on and I saw that there is a new System update :
A SYSTEM UPDATE IS AVAILABLE
SYSTEM UPGRADE 2.30.405.1 (30.17MB)
My Incredible S has been S-OFF`ed since April by XTC CLIP and I have been on the stock Rom due to some errors on the customs roms like ( no harware backlight etc.)
My question is if I apply this update will I loose my S-OFF ?
Secondly If I loose S-OFF will XTC CLIP bring my S-OFF again ?
Thanks
DC

I got that this morning.... but then it vanished when i checked again

i think if you're s-off already you won't lose it. and you have the xtc clip anyways, worse comes to worst you can use it again.
i read that if you upgrade to this versoin on stock and try alpharevx, you won't be able to s-off it

i dont "think", i am 100% sure you will not lose your s-off
why? cuz i have tested every possible way to s-on again my phone..including OTA...

You will lose your S-off only when you overwrite bootloader.
I s-off my phone using AlphaRev but wanted to test a few things in full stock so installed my stock GB RUU to S-on my phone again.
After that I S-off again.
It will not s-on unless you run an RUU and overwrite bootloader. Even if you get it s-on accidentaly there its possible to s-off from any state So you shouldn't have any problem installing this OTA. This OTA doesn't have a bootloader (I assume you already on GB ). Froyo to GB OTA had a new bootloader in it.
Let me know if you face any problem s-offing and I'll assist you.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

ehsan76 said:
You will lose your S-off only when you overwrite bootloader.
I s-off my phone using AlphaRev but wanted to test a few things in full stock so installed my stock GB RUU to S-on my phone again.
After that I S-off again.
It will not s-on unless you run an RUU and overwrite bootloader. Even if you get it s-on accidentaly there its possible to s-off from any state So you shouldn't have any problem installing this OTA. This OTA doesn't have a bootloader (I assume you already on GB ). Froyo to GB OTA had a new bootloader in it.
Let me know if you face any problem s-offing and I'll assist you.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App
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The OP has a XTC Clipped IncS that is S-OFF. This is not dependent on a patched HBOOT like AlphaRevX is; this is Radio S-OFF and will not be affected, even by running a RUU.

Ok I did the update but ,
I am getting an error installing the update 2.30.405.1
My current software is 2.12.405.7
Here is the video of the error .....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc8DPq6XlkA
Any ideas why ?
Maybe I might have installed another region RUU in April, but can't remember now.

doublecheese said:
Ok I did the update but ,
I am getting an error installing the update 2.30.405.1
My current software is 2.12.405.7
Here is the video of the error .....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc8DPq6XlkA
Any ideas why ?
In order to install the OTA, you need to replace ClockworkMod recovery with the recovery.img file from the 2.12.405.7 ROM.zip.
Maybe I might have installed another region RUU in April, but can't remember now.
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I tried this last night and actually got a progress bar and it got about 1/3 of the way and then I got a red triangle with a !. I know that the radio I have installed is newer than the one in the 2.12.405.7 ROM.zip, so that may be my problem. Anyway, I'm going to pass on the OTA and just go ahead and flash the 2.30 ROM.zip using ClockworkMod instead.

tpbklake said:
The OP has a XTC Clipped IncS that is S-OFF. This is not dependent on a patched HBOOT like AlphaRevX is; this is Radio S-OFF and will not be affected, even by running a RUU.
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^^
This
RADIO S-OFF via XTC Clip is permanent as of right now.
AlphaRevX S-OFF method is reversible with a RUU.

tpbklake said:
The OP has a XTC Clipped IncS that is S-OFF. This is not dependent on a patched HBOOT like AlphaRevX is; this is Radio S-OFF and will not be affected, even by running a RUU.
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doublecheese said:
Ok I did the update but ,
I am getting an error installing the update 2.30.405.1
My current software is 2.12.405.7
Here is the video of the error .....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc8DPq6XlkA
Any ideas why ?
Maybe I might have installed another region RUU in April, but can't remember now.
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@tpbklake: Sorry I don't have any idea how XTC chip works as I bought Incredible S after a software s-off method had been confirmed
@doublecheese: Download the WWE_2.30.405.1 RUU from this link and try running it directly from your PC or use this guide to install it from boot-loader. Don't forget to take a Nandroid backup before upgrade
You wont need GoldCard in your case as you have WWE Incredible S and you are installing a WWE Rom on it
Hope this will help
Ehsan

You can't do ota updates when you have a custom recovery installed..

Guten tag Madmaxx82
If I just flash the WWE 2.30.405.1 RUU instead , would I loose my S-OFF ?
Sorry man it's been quite time I don't follow the IS forums.

yesterday i did updates into new version, nothing special, only my phone performance bit faster. and battery performance is same for me. but i think updates are always worthwhile.

doublecheese said:
Guten tag Madmaxx82
If I just flash the WWE 2.30.405.1 RUU instead , would I loose my S-OFF ?
Sorry man it's been quite time I don't follow the IS forums.
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Since you are S-OFF'd using the XTC Clip, you will be safe to flash the 2.30 RUU and still have S-OFF after the process.

tpbklake said:
Since you are S-OFF'd using the XTC Clip, you will be safe to flash the 2.30 RUU and still have S-OFF after the process.
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Thanks man if Ioose S-OFF. I'll XTC CLIP it again anyway .....

Im S-OFF with a XTC-Clip and is running stock 2.12.405.7 ROM.
Can anybody confirm 100% that i don't loos S-OFF if i upgrade to 2.30.405.1?
Im a bit nervous becaus i don't have access to a XTC-Clips any more.

jkolner said:
Im S-OFF with a XTC-Clip and is running stock 2.12.405.7 ROM.
Can anybody confirm 100% that i don't loos S-OFF if i upgrade to 2.30.405.1?
Im a bit nervous becaus i don't have access to a XTC-Clips any more.
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I took the 2.30.405.1 RUU and extracted the ROM.zip and then made a rooted ROM using the HTC Android Kitchen and flashed that on my clipped Inc S, so now I'm running GB 2.30.405.7 and still S-OFF. You can always go that route if you don't want to risk running the stock RUU.

jkolner said:
Im S-OFF with a XTC-Clip and is running stock 2.12.405.7 ROM.
Can anybody confirm 100% that i don't loos S-OFF if i upgrade to 2.30.405.1?
Im a bit nervous becaus i don't have access to a XTC-Clips any more.
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I own my own XTC CLIP and a S-OFF Incredible S , I can confirm that you will NOT loose S-OFF after the OTA . How I know ? Because I did the risk and apply the OTA myself ... But S-OFF remains there solid as rock !!!!
But you will loose your root and then you have to do what EHSAN76 suggested to me....... This is how I get my IS rooted again.
HERE IS THE LINK TO THAT THREAD

Still S-OFF after updrading to 2.30.405.1 OTA

We have a discussions here at work and perhaps you guys can help...
We have 3 IncS that is S-OFF with a XTC-Clip, and we are considering to upgrade the standard ROM to the new 2.30.405.1 OTA.
So the question is if that is going to set the phone back to S-ON or will the still be S-OFF and Rooted?

I think the same question was discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159725

Thanks - realy appericiat yuor answer ;-)

jkolner said:
Thanks - realy appericiat yuor answer ;-)
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Yup the OP of that thread has confirmed that he flashed the OTA on his clipped IncS and retained S-OFF, although he did lose root and had to re-root.

When Some one S-OFF with xtc clip its for permanent no going back

can I use XTC clip over AlpharevX?

Hello again ppl..
been away some time, lost some of the developments here..
So I'm kind of confused.. I have the IS with 2.12.405.7 unlocked with AlpharevX.. and I want to go to 2.30.405.1
and as I told you I have a bunch of questions.. if someone could help would be nice..
- can I get the OTA update over the AlpharevX or will it stuck..?
- if I don't get the OTA can I use the XTC clip over AlpharevX to get a permanent S-OFF and then the OTA or it will burn everything.. ?

nikant said:
Hello again ppl..
been away some time, lost some of the developments here..
So I'm kind of confused.. I have the IS with 2.12.405.7 unlocked with AlpharevX.. and I want to go to 2.30.405.1
and as I told you I have a bunch of questions.. if someone could help would be nice..
- can I get the OTA update over the AlpharevX or will it stuck..?
- if I don't get the OTA can I use the XTC clip over AlpharevX to get a permanent S-OFF and then the OTA or it will burn everything.. ?
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In order to receive the OTA update, you need to have the standard HTC recovery in place instead of ClockworkMod. I believe if you search this forum you may find conflicting reports of whether taking the OTA after AlphaRevX made you lose S-Off or not. You will definitely lose root. If you do lose S-Off, the latest Revolutionary from AlphaRev/Unrevoked will work on 2.30. Your best bet would be to clip your phone if you access to a XTC clip. Then you wouldn't have to worry about it.

Or just install http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168796 if you want to stay with a stock ROM. I did.

thank you guys.. I'll probably try the cooked ruu.. (still curious though what would happen if I used XTC over the AlpharevXed hboot..)

Nothing different would happen. One is software based one is hardware based.

ste1164 said:
Nothing different would happen. One is software based one is hardware based.
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True but the clip says not to use over modified hboot..
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App

Request to Revolutionary - Hboot 1.16.000

Since Hboot 1.16.000 is not supported by Revolutionary yet, I thought that maybe we can make a formal request via this thread.
Hopefully, the number of users with Hboot 1.16.000 is big enough to turn their attention towards the Incredible S Hboot 1.16.000.
So, how many of you want the - Inc S - Hboot 1.16.000 unlocked?
PS: If my idea seems out of line, you can just delete the thread.

katu2006 said:
Since Hboot 1.16.000 is not supported by Revolutionary yet, I thought that maybe we can make a formal request via this thread.
Hopefully, the number of users with Hboot 1.16.000 is big enough to turn their attention towards the Incredible S Hboot 1.16.000.
So, how many of you want the - Inc S - Hboot 1.16.000 unlocked?
PS: If my idea seems out of line, you can just delete the thread.
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I'm guessing phones with hboot 1.16.000 are really new ones since i got mine about a month ago and it had hboot 1.13.000.

Yep, my inc S is 2 weeks old...

katu2006 said:
Yep, my inc S is 2 weeks old...
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I'm sure it will not be long ;-D

katu2006 said:
Since Hboot 1.16.000 is not supported by Revolutionary yet, I thought that maybe we can make a formal request via this thread.
Hopefully, the number of users with Hboot 1.16.000 is big enough to turn their attention towards the Incredible S Hboot 1.16.000.
So, how many of you want the - Inc S - Hboot 1.16.000 unlocked?
PS: If my idea seems out of line, you can just delete the thread.
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Ya,I do hope revolutionary will have support on hboot 1.16 too,wait for it
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk

My HTC IncS was manufactured in June/11.
My boot is H1.16...
I bought an XTC Clip. I receive today in my house.

I have HBOOT 1.16.0000 and S-ON.
no need to do S-OFF to put on custom ROM.
I got someone else to do it for me, he remote controlled my computer and typed in all the commands. I'm happily using cyanogenmod 7.
Sorry I can't tell you how to do it exactly, as I didnt do it myself.
If someone here knows a lot about fastboot etc, here is a few commands I think he tried to do. see if you can fill in the blanks.
First, unlock the bootloader at HTC dev site. you need to log in and follow steps. once that is done it will say s-on so don't panic!!! Then what he did is flash a custom recovery/bootloader so I can flash ROM'S and zips. I copied the ROM onto the root of the SD card and installed it using the interface and it worked.
When I did this it was *supposed* to work but it still did not boot. I couldn't boot any ROM's except a 'MiUi', but it was really buggy. So my friend got me to install cyanogenmod on my phone using the bootloader, he flashed the boot.zip from the MiUi to the phone and it booted up with cyanogenmod! Then he put back the previous boot.zip from cyanogenmod and it worked! dunno why, but something must've gave it a kick.
sorry if it's a bit confusing, but it is a long process and a lot of trial and error. be sure what you're doing. You do not need revolutionary hack to do it. ALso, everyone says you need S-OFF, this is not true, it only matters if you want to flash complex things such as RADIO's which are protected. But to access root files and to install custom ROM's it's fine.
Hopefully someone can fill in the blanks here and come up with steps on how to do it
good luck

Thanks for sharing with us. I've replied to your other thread.
Cheers

And I have replied back

[Q] Root without HTCdev

I have been looking and searching but have not found a way to just root my phone without using HTCdev in any way. Am I right when I say that the only way to root is to unlock bootloader through HTCdev and then flashing a ROM that is already rooted? Cause I can't find anything else on rooting an HTC One...

You can do this if you have 1.44 hboot for use the "revone" tool.
Which hboot do you have?

Guich said:
You can do this if you have 1.44 hboot for use the "revone" tool.
Which hboot do you have?
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1.54 unfortunately New phone. Really don't want HTC to track my phone and I could live with locked bootloader untill 1.54 is cracked but I want root access for several things (backup, LBE Privacy Guard etc.)

So, atm, the only solution for you is HTCDev or wait.

Ok, thanks mate.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45344021#post45344021
try this one , and tell us about result