Maybe require them to take an annual driver-certification test of some kind after a certain age?
See http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...hits-9-children-while-backing-up-his-car.html
Yes, definitely. Here (in norway) people that are 70+ years old must have a "medical certificate" from their doctor, and they have to see their doctor once a year. If their doctor says that they're not fit to drive then that'll be it. Doesn't eliminate the dangers, but it's a start.
Look up driving and accident statistics anywhere in the state of Florida and you'll have a definitive answer. There is something truly frightening about seeing a 90 year old person behind the wheel of a Suburban or Excursion. Especially when they are so hunched over from arthritis that their only line of sight is looking under the steering wheel and over the dash. We called them Q-Tip drivers, since the only thing you could see was a puff of white hair. If you've seen Ferris Bueller you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
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I think drivers should have to retake the entire driving test every time or two they renew their license. That way it doesn't discriminate any group of people, and will eliminate everyone who doesn't know how to drive, not just the older people.
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How about a mandatory retake of drivers ed courses for people who get in more than two accidents in five years?
It sounds good in principle, but I have literally seen DMV employees guiding elderly people through the vision test. I think people here regard driving as a right, not as a privilege and responsibility.
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I think drivers should have to retake the entire driving test every time or two they renew their license. That way it doesn't discriminate any group of people, and will eliminate everyone who doesn't know how to drive, not just the older people.
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Cost a lot of money, and the lines will be astronomical. To take the drivers road test here in Nevada, I had to schedule it 7 weeks in advance.
well any age that can drive while holding a can of beer in the other seems good to me,
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+1. Then, there are the cases of old people driving their cars through buildings (they mistake the accelerator for the brake, in a parking lot, when they start their car). I guess when people get old, everything looks the same.
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Yes I live in Florida as well. I lost my driver side mirror because some old ass guy decided he didn't like the lane he was in. To bad I was right next to him and he just starts moving over. Luckily I quick enough to act and he only took out my mirror. I see waaay to many old fools that should not be driving.
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This is what I thought of when I saw this thread.
I dont think there should be no questions asked cut off age, not everybody ages equally. But for sure tests should be administered after a certain age, if you cant pass the test you shouldn't drive..
I think having to get a doctor's release to drive after a certain age makes the most sense. It's not about age, really, but the mental and physical competency that degrades with age.
Maybe not a max age but they def need to get better at screening with age. I mean, WTF, they are so mean there to everyone at the DMV so why are they being " nice" and letting our old folks get renewed when they shouldn't lol
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Definitely should be or least re-test after a certain age
Every summer, Southern California sees a temporary influx of old retirees from Arizona. They drive at very slow speeds on the fast lane of our freeways. We just love them for that :^)
Some Californians call this phenomenon "The invasion of the Zonies".
i just had to bring this up
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Oh god yes. Please. Senior drives are as dangerous as, if not more so than, junior drivers.
Going 50 and overtaking!!! on the bloody Autobahn, are you f*cking kidding me... Or just randomly slamming on the breaks in the middle of a corner. Or crossing the intersection without even so much as noticing all the oncoming traffic!
67. (pension-age) After that, every 5 years a re-exam. If you fail, get used to taking a cab.
I think so...
Seen this discussion on a lot of car forums.
I'm a bit neutral as far as opinion.
Some drivers are inherently incapable all thru their driving years then some are careful responsible till the end.
Now that I'm closing in on 60 I'm way more intolerant of others.
In the past I was a very angry aggressive driver...I never got anywhere faster than anybody else.
Haven't really slowed down, I just do my best to be safe and sane with constant self checks when driving.
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I hope our Vibrants aren't one of the 3000 that can be scanned by this!
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/34/3458.asp
After briefly searching the manufacturers website it does look like our phone is on the list..... However, looks like the only way they can suck out the data (pictures, SMS, sim contents, browser cache, etc) is via a cable. (not wirelessly like some other phones)
http://www.cellebrite.com/
Their brochure even says they can retrieve deleted information and geo stats of where you have been!
We don't do this in my city or in any of my neighboring cities.
It is a violation of the 4th admendment.
What would be the point of this?
I fail to see how they would benefit. Especially when it may not hold up in court.
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After briefly searching the manufacturers website it does look like our phone is on the list..... However, looks like the only way they can suck out the data (pictures, SMS, sim contents, browser cache, etc) is via a cable. (not wirelessly like some other phones)
http://www.cellebrite.com/
Their brochure even says they can retrieve deleted information and geo stats of where you have been!
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Some of these claims sound a bit like "marketing speak".
Not all the things it claims to do will work on all devices. I reckon that one device might support the dumping of GPS stuff (iPhone perhaps given the recent news headlines? ) (btw I'm joking about the iPhone).
all phones sold after ~2002 must be able to do it in compliance with the freedom of information act introduced in 2001
I wouldnt get my hopes up
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What would be the point of this?
I fail to see how they would benefit. Especially when it may not hold up in court.
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If you willingly give up your phone to be scanned, even if you got nothing to hide, you've waivered your 4th Amendment Rights. Any and all information can and will be used against you as I have yet to meet a cop who didn't treat the average citizen as guilty till proven guilty. Accessing your phone data is like data mining your facebook page and more looking for anything suspicious about your character which could give them "probable cause" for other things. Got pics of you and your friends partying? Now they have a reason to administer the drunk driver test and/or a breathalizer. Got pics of you and your dad hunting? Now they're going to detain you and search you car for guns (they'd do that here in NJ). Your gps data shows you doing 5 or 10mph over the speed limit? Instant speeding ticket. Time stamps on your SMS messages coincide while you where driving (even if you had a passanger using your phone its still your phone) instant moving violation.
That's the whole point to this, to find probable cause in order to convict people of crimes. There is only two ways to thwart this: do not consent to a warrentless search and keep your data encrypted to protect yourself from a forced warrentless search.
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If you willingly give up your phone to be scanned, even if you got nothing to hide, you've waivered your 4th Amendment Rights. Any and all information can and will be used against you as I have yet to meet a cop who didn't treat the average citizen as guilty till proven guilty. Accessing your phone data is like data mining your facebook page and more looking for anything suspicious about your character which could give them "probable cause" for other things. Got pics of you and your friends partying? Now they have a reason to administer the drunk driver test and/or a breathalizer. Got pics of you and your dad hunting? Now they're going to detain you and search you car for guns (they'd do that here in NJ). Your gps data shows you doing 5 or 10mph over the speed limit? Instant speeding ticket. Time stamps on your SMS messages coincide while you where driving (even if you had a passanger using your phone its still your phone) instant moving violation.
That's the whole point to this, to find probable cause in order to convict people of crimes. There is only two ways to thwart this: do not consent to a warrentless search and keep your data encrypted to protect yourself from a forced warrentless search.
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One word for you: Paranoid...
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One word for you: Paranoid...
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Not really. (at least in New Jersey) if you have that point of view there is good reason for it. In some of the quieter counties (Sussex, Warren ect) the cops actually have been known to do this kind of stuff. In Hudson county (where I live) it's less likely but not unheard of.
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one word , oh , two words : ignorant fool
by the way , ur rite theres nothing to be afraid of if you spend all ur life watching sitcoms and drinking beer
I feel sorry for our friends across the pond. The police state of America is becoming less like the land of the free and more like an Orwellian novel with every day that passes.
Ben Franklin wrote, "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
I'm not originally from the US but based on what I'm seeing today, policemen here are way better than my previous home. In my previous country it's all about money, when you have a violation about traffic they'll get money from you and put it directly to their pockets.
If you don't give them money they'll found a way to get you arrested, the worst thing that they can do is secretly put prohibited drugs inside your car without you knowing it then accuse you with that. A very sad thing but it is true, good thing is I now live in the US.
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simple answer
get anything in your phone that can transmit wireless and zap it with a tazer
so thats most likely the CPU and it would be about the same effect as melting your phone. but cooler
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loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
i think it'd do better job placed on the other end of the phone , so they cant plug it in
We have a wee bit of rioting in Belfast this evening. There's a parade on somewhere or other. Got me thinking about rioting in general. We get a lot of it here. LAst summer was particularly bad with a lot of rioting around the city and around NI in general. this is a video from last year at Ardoyne. It doesn't kick of right away but it gets a bit out of hand. This one is quite tame. Afterwards a policewoman was seriously inured when a rioter through some concrete on her.
Belfast and Vancouver may be on different continents but they have the perennial riots in common. It's only 0.1% of each population though, while the rest look on thinking 'what a bunch of asshats'
It'll all change given, oh i don't know....300 years? Shame we won't be around to enjoy the peace!
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OP, your video doesn't work.
On topic, Vancouver, WTF! F****** clowns.
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We have a wee bit of rioting in Belfast this evening. There's a parade on somewhere or other. Got me thinking about rioting in general. We get a lot of it here. LAst summer was particularly bad with a lot of rioting around the city and around NI in general. this is a video from last year at Ardoyne. It doesn't kick of right away but it gets a bit out of hand. This one is quite tame. Afterwards a policewoman was seriously inured when a rioter through some concrete on her.
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good heavens! ur from belfast as well! the riots last summer was madness. thank god most of it was around Derry and North Belfast! just when you think people are matured enough to put the past behind them and move on! no wonder most of NI is a dump...lol
i was however stuck in the middle of the riots last year (if i remember right) along the lower windsor avenue when the polish supporters clashed with the local ones. 'twas a bloody affair i tell you. i actually pity the coppers in NI. poor guys are hated by both sides and have been putting up with sectarian s**t for too many decades now
If citizens were allowed to carry firearms it would pretty much stop the rioting. People are less inclined to do something that may get them killed....
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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If citizens were allowed to carry firearms it would pretty much stop the rioting. People are less inclined to do something that may get them killed....
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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the brits did do that...they took fire arms and put them in the hands of small groups, the UVF, UDA and the likes. believe me it wasnt pretty at all...
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the brits did do that...they took fire arms and put them in the hands of small groups, the UVF, UDA and the likes. believe me it wasnt pretty at all...
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I dont mean in the hands of small groups. I mean private citizens everywhere owning guns. You can break my shop window with your brains on the sidewalk beside you.
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They should arm all the grandparents of the world..
"Now boys, you knock that **** off. Don't make me come out there shootin'!"
I think it was summer of 2010 when there was that G20 riot in Toronto, then a few days ago the riot in Vancouver. It's so stupid, makes the rest of Canada looks bad and making others go what the hell. Seriously, who the hell does that to their own city? And you wonder what government's going to do with the money? Repair every single thing that was effing damaged.
Michigan State likes to riot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_State_University_student_riot
Working for me fine. Try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbnQdK8IskE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
The riots last year were pretty bad last year. They stopped a train too and tried to set it on fire. Its going to be bad here this year I think with the upsurge in dissident activity. I think a little trip will be in order.
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Working for me fine. Try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbnQdK8IskE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
The riots last year were pretty bad last year. They stopped a train too and tried to set it on fire. Its going to be bad here this year I think with the upsurge in dissident activity. I think a little trip will be in order.
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rioting is one thing but the assassination in the antrim base, the cold blooded murder of the police officer in craigavon and the recent ones as well have taken things just a bit too far. what do they hope to achieve. yes i do know they are fighting for a cause, but blood baths isnt the answer.
It has really kicked off the last two nights with up to 500 on Monday night rioting and 700 last night. A photographer was shot in the leg last night, you can read the article here.
Shots have been fired by both sides of the community and there is very little the police can do without being heavy handed. This is putting such a negative slant on Northern Ireland which is a fantastic little country.
Let's face it, humans don't need a reason to be violent. They just need an excuse.
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It has really kicked off the last two nights with up to 500 on Monday night rioting and 700 last night. A photographer was shot in the leg last night, you can read the article here.
Shots have been fired by both sides of the community and there is very little the police can do without being heavy handed. This is putting such a negative slant on Northern Ireland which is a fantastic little country.
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yes yes the loyalists and republicans are at it again...molotov cocktails, petrol bombs, gun shots! i dread to imagine the havoc on 12th july. thank god im living no where near ards, or east belfast
I'm drunk. The suggested 'similar' threads aren't preventing me from posting this, so, just curious;
How many times do you wash your hands a day? Not an exact number, just a 'guess.'
I'm saying at least 30 - 40 times. I wash my hands after every single smoke (at least 20), meal, preparation of a meal - before and after, obviously, bathroom visit etc, regular chores including laundry, being in public places, before a meal and after regardless of preparation etc etc. All places in between. The smoking is the thing. I can't stand the smell, yet I do it, so I wash. I was like a madman. Thing is, I know others don't ... like that guy packing that 'spoon' who you KNOW hasn't done as much in hours ... scary ...
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Weird question? I think not. This is more important than chips or whips. C'mon. Be real.
maybe two or three times ...
kidding. maybe 2o but that seems like a lot
bathroom
after meals
occasional cigarette
random point here or there, i might actually say under 20
i have germs
You post threads about washing hands when you're drunk? Your parties must be really exciting
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You have OCD.
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Maybe about 30 times a day.
Maybe 15
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About 30 i'd say. I always use the damp paper hand towels to wipe my head and face over with too before binning them. I hate feeling dirty
The amount of stuffed shirts i see at work each day exiting the toilets without washing their hands disgusts me.
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You have no idea. I am passenger in a mad wagon. Its 5 AM and I'm lost. Hand and body washing, no doubt. I'm freaking out right now.
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Just washed muh hands. Breakfast. Weird guy in front of me.
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Wow and I thought I wash my hands too much
Basically:
Before meal or preparing meal
After bathroom
After waking up
After returning home
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More than I can count. I have hand sanitizer with me as well wherever I go most of the times when I can't stand some public washroom places.
Washroom breaks.
Before/after meals or before/after handling food
Public places
After/before doing the dishes
Chores
Laundry
The list goes on.
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More than I can count. I have hand sanitizer with me as well wherever I go most of the times when I can't stand some public washroom places.
Washroom breaks.
Before/after meals or before/after handling food
Public places
After/before doing the dishes
Chores
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+1
I also carry hand sanitizer.
I get up and the first thing I do even before saying good morning to Sparky is to wash my face, hands and brush my teeth (I have my coffee before I shower)
After visiting the ladies room
Before preparing meals
After eating
After I smoke
Before handling or feeding my birds
After handling or feeding my birds
After cleaning (actually I shower)
Upon returning home from being out (actually another shower)
So....I wash, my hands 30-40 times a day and shower 3-4 times a day...
Wow. I have OCD.
You did not just read this....
Hah I've had people say I have some germ phobia but I don't think so. And everytime I put some purell or whatever on, Sanitizer, I have to wash my hands because I think it smells weird. Well, I don't HAVE to. I CHOOSE to do as much. I think. :/
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Whoa, shocked to see such a thread returned when I was about to start as much ...
Yes, a lot.
lol
I should think about 25-3something a day!!!1!
Can never have clean enough hands! So long as you have reason to wash the hands enough I don't see why it would be considered 'phobic.' So long as you aren't compulsive and OC about it ....
While at work I wash them around 20 times. Rest of the day around 5-10 times more or less. depends what I do
It's late here, so sorry if this has been asked or talked about before. The phone I had for a length of time before this was a Nexus One. I switched to the G2X and hated it with a passion.
Our phones can darned near do anything I can possibly imagine today... especially when you consider that color screens were "hot" just a few years back.
I'm not a gamer by any means. I played Cut the Rope and Angry Birds, but have beaten em both with perfect scores... so gaming graphics aren't really "my" niche. However, what would you like to see a phone capable of next?
I just remember when I had my G1 and the Android platform has advanced so quickly, that I am at a loss of what I would like to see next. The only thing I could say would be a game-changer, would be some type of "real-time" translator. How amazing would that be?
So, my contribution is a translator that could do so in real-time (or at least close). What's yours?
Another random idea....
My 97 year old grandfather was blown away that I could order a book on my phone (through Amazon) and have it arrive the next day. He started talking about how he would love many of the things I do on it, such as checking the weather and news.
While we're all somewhat "techy" on here... it'd be neat to see something idiot proof. That is, something that isn't for the tech savvy like himself, to be able to use it. Voice search has come a long way, but still takes a fair amount of skill.
The trouble with translation of human speech is the literally unlimited variables. Not only the hundreds of languages, but the dialects, the accents, the mis-pronounciations and the combinations of all the above.
The technology will get there, it's just nowhere near just yet. (IBM are flouting their latest super computer is as clever as a cat, but it has 147,000+ CPUs! Not to mention the fact my cat isn't a gleaming example of intelligence).
As for what to expect in handsets, quite frankly, battery tech needs a good boot up the backside into reality, plus the efficiency tech to match.
'toy tech'-wise, I'd like things like an accurate body monitor, that'd be ideal for handicapped or the elderly (or the fitness savvy for that matter) which could automatically alert in case of problems.
Otherwise, there isn't much I can think of that this thing doesn't do (other than make the obligatory cup of coffee). Tech is getting to a place where gadgets can seriously be considered as possible devices to advance the human race rather than just assist it's user.
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The trouble with translation of human speech is the literally unlimited variables. Not only the hundreds of languages, but the dialects, the accents, the mis-pronounciations and the combinations of all the above.
The technology will get there, it's just nowhere near just yet. (IBM are flouting their latest super computer is as clever as a cat, but it has 147,000+ CPUs! Not to mention the fact my cat isn't a gleaming example of intelligence).
As for what to expect in handsets, quite frankly, battery tech needs a good boot up the backside into reality, plus the efficiency tech to match.
'toy tech'-wise, I'd like things like an accurate body monitor, that'd be ideal for handicapped or the elderly (or the fitness savvy for that matter) which could automatically alert in case of problems.
Otherwise, there isn't much I can think of that this thing doesn't do (other than make the obligatory cup of coffee). Tech is getting to a place where gadgets can seriously be considered as possible devices to advance the human race rather than just assist it's user.
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Technically, our phones CAN make a cup of coffee now! Google arduino twitter coffee pot (or something similar). You can use twitter to send a command to a microcontroller that is hooked up to a coffee pot to make coffee when you tell it too from wherever you are.
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hologram calls instead of apps like FaceTime.
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We're getting there, probably when we're 97 and we get blown away when our grandson/daughters shows us we can hologram call in SuperHD mode as if the person is just next to you
What does this have to do with Sensation?
I would like a phone with "LASER" attached to its back
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there are some sensational ideas floating around....
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that makes sense!
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Here we do serve cheese with our whine and the waaambulance is always on standby!
a light misting of spray paint should do the trick
My router died! Now I gotta wait on my ISP to ship a replacement which I might not get until Saturday. FML!
Grump! (Grumpy Bump)......
This thread is long overdue and I'm sure I'll find a fair few things to rant about. (Once I'm back at work)
While I'm here though......
Why is XDA so dead at the weekends?
Meh, I guess the rest of you have lives
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this is what i'll be using instead of my tp2
no wifi, no gps, no touchscreen, no light sensor... fml
Just spilled OJ on some freshly broken up buds.. Sigh. FML!
*ins>rt sig here*
I haz to pay ALL THE BILLS this month by myself AGAIN! FML.
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My sister is stuck in a wheelchair, so I have to cook, clean, and take my nephew to and from school everyday. My nephew who is seven years old is autistic, so he's going for only part of a school day. I have to go get him at odd hours, and since I'm doing housework/cooking later in the day, I can't get a full time job. I have to deal with his moods and outbursts everyday. Taking care of him, his 11 year old sister (she's moody thanks to hormones) and his mother means I have no time for even part time work, so I'm constantly broke as a result. Since she is family and needs my help I can't move out and not have a guilty conscience. My sister's fiancee is a vile and mentally abusive person, and I get stuck dealing with him all the time. He doesn't even help with housework or the kids. We're struggling financially so our home internet and cable was unpaid and cut off, and we're still getting charged for it until the owing amount is paid. The only reason I own a nice phone is cause I saved money for months and signed a contract. My computer was built from free, salvaged parts, otherwise I wouldn't have one of those either. I have serious insomnia and never get proper rest. I also have back pain, anxiety and a whole mess of health problems despite only being 20 years old. I was forced to move into a different city cause of my sister, and now I can no longer see any of my friends. My situation at home prevents me from being able to have a girlfriend as well.
All of this is true, no exaggerations. FML
^^ That sounds about as hard as it gets. You have to believe that it can only get better from there!
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I run a basketball league for kids and wanted to notify all players that practice was cancelled this past Friday because of the weather. Instead of selecting "Basketball" group in Gmail, I selected "All." The email was sent to about 800 people, including my professors, ex-professors, TAs, friends I haven't talked to in years, etc. - -. Most embarrassing moment of my life, so awkward.
kareeem said:
I run a basketball league for kids and wanted to notify all players that practice was cancelled this past Friday because of the weather. Instead of selecting "Basketball" group in Gmail, I selected "All." The email was sent to about 800 people, including my professors, ex-professors, TAs, friends I haven't talked to in years, etc. - -. Most embarrassing moment of my life, so awkward.
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Lmao Unlucky dude, Atleast it was nothing 'personal' being sent
I have to write a long a$$ essay, but I can't do it anymore I can continue tomorrow, but I have to study for an exam, so idk how I will finish it before Tuesday.
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FML lol
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MacaronyMax said:
Lmao Unlucky dude, Atleast it was nothing 'personal' being sent
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^ this. One of my friends accidentally sent some porn to his family members and a few teachers
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captain67 said:
^ this. One of my friends accidentally sent some porn to his family members and a few teachers
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Ok that's embarrassing lol. Poor guy.
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conantroutman said:
Grump! (Grumpy Bump)......
This thread is long overdue and I'm sure I'll find a fair few things to rant about. (Once I'm back at work)
While I'm here though......
Why is XDA so dead at the weekends?
Meh, I guess the rest of you have lives
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Friday night = hangout and/or gaming until early Sat morning.
Sat = Gaming + hangout when those idjiots wake up from the hangover
Sun = Church + hangout with church peeps + chores.
Enough?
sakai4eva
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lol
MacaronyMax said:
sakai4eva
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lol
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Let it stay there for a bit, see if he even notices. And when he does, hit that button
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My boss offered to pay for my car repairs.
I've already paid.
FML.