Hey,
I've just a quick question.
Is there any difference between velocity, vivid, raider and holiday? Or is it the same device with only different names.for different areas?
I wanted to be sure, cause i only found roms abd guides for vivids and raider.
I've also searched for sn answer but didn't found anything
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I would also like to know, as I'm using an European Velocity EN-DE.
Any help would be very appreciated
I have an European Velocity with GB because Vodafone hasn't updated to ICS.
Without an ICS RUU, how can I update hboot and flash a custom rom?
Thanks
Basically same phones - Velocity has CPU set faster, others are CPU restricted by default as best as I am aware. However, CPU's are all the same, in fact all the internals are the same. There is plenty of help here as to getting these phones onto ICS, it's not that hard.
liney_2000 said:
Basically same phones - Velocity has CPU set faster, others are CPU restricted by default as best as I am aware. However, CPU's are all the same, in fact all the internals are the same. There is plenty of help here as to getting these phones onto ICS, it's not that hard.
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So basically I can use all guides for the vivid for my velocity =P
Thank you =)
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outcrash said:
So basically I can use all guides for the vivid for my velocity =P
Thank you =)
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the only difference is different radio firmware and the Vivid and Raider have underclocker cpus
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I had the inspire. Now the vivid. Would flashing an inspire rom work?
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It is not the same thing. I would stick with the custom roms in the vivid development thread.
It could work with some tweaks but only if you know what you are doing.
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haggardh said:
I had the inspire. Now the vivid. Would flashing an inspire rom work?
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Nope. Each phone is different. In time we will get to where the inspire is at. People are working on cm9 once that gets to beta there will be working cm7. In a month or 2 we will have a leaked ICS build from Bell or one of the other telecoms and people can start working on android 4.0 with Sense 3.5 or 4 whatever the use.
Drew
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Each phone may run the Android OS, but the way the software interacts with the hardware is based on the hardware itself. It is possible, but unless you are a veteran dev I'd be careful. The phones are very different.
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Yeah, even though they are both HTC, they are two different phones with two different chipsets. So, a rom thats been developed for an inspire will not just install on to a vivid. It would have to be ported over. Kinda the same way that a rom for a Samsung Galaxy S will not work on a Galaxy S II, or a rom for a Galaxy S II will not work on a Galaxy S II Skyrocket.
is there a way to get s-off for the htc vivid?
Nope and atm its not needed
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Search, people, search!!!
I've seen this question at least twice in the past 24 hours, and this isn't a fast moving forum!
Doktor is right; it's not available and is not (yet) needed. Certain people have S-Off just because of either the way their phone happened to come from the factory, or because they just have developer devices.
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Search, people, search!!!
I've seen this question at least twice in the past 24 hours, and this isn't a fast moving forum!
Doktor is right; it's not available and is not (yet) needed. Certain people have S-Off just because of either the way their phone happened to come from the factory, or because they just have developer devices.
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It is unreal... The laziness is ridiculous
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Can we have a sticky with FAQs like this? search functions are rarely perfect for me (even though in one case, the answer is actually on the first page)
:facepalm: There already is one. No one bothers to read so I hardly even work on it.
Also search functions are pretty good, you just have to you know read, and refine your search if it comes up wrong.
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:facepalm: There already is one.
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Oh the irony... LOL :what:
Anyhow, I wish people would stop saying that we don't need it... With s-off, we would not be stuck waiting for carrier signed hboot images; as soon as one carrier released it or someone received a leak, we would all be able to use it. Right now, each user is stuck waiting for their carrier. So, all the Canadian users are stuck on GB for now for example.
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Oh the irony... LOL :what:
Anyhow, I wish people would stop saying that we don't need it... With s-off, we would not be stuck waiting for carrier signed hboot images; as soon as one carrier released it or someone received a leak, we would all be able to use it. Right now, each user is stuck waiting for their carrier. So, all the Canadian users are stuck on GB for now for example.
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As far as I understand it the firmware from onr will not work with the other. Irregardless of s-off, the radio for ics I think was change so you would still need your carriers updated radio.
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I can't comment on whether there was a change of radio from GB to ICS in the releases so far. However, I can tell you that Rogers and Bell in Canada use the same frequencies and protocols as US AT&T. I have an AT&T SIM that I use when travelling in the US and my Raider works fine. So I infer that either the radios are identical (att vs Bell, not GB vs ICS) or compatible. With S-Off, I would be up and running.
Also, if I understand correctly, with S-off, we would be free to mix and match, so I could try the ATT ICS Rom, with the Bell GB radio. Anyhow, all wishful thinking for now.
MM
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For those interested in s-off ;-) you may want to take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1573491
OP there indicates he is beta testing an s-off tool on pur device. You may want to express your thatnks and support there...
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Looks like they're close to releasing it too. Been actively following that thread cuz I'm dying to install some wicked custom ics roms on my raider and my wife's. . Super stoked for this.
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once s-off is done then yes will be able to flash roms from other htc devices to the vivid.as s-off lets you flash different radios instead having to use the radios the roms come with
Will s-off allow us to install kernels from recovery (so we don't need to fastboot from the computer each time)? Or do we just need a recovery capable of this?
Yes it let's you flash kernels in recovery
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The beta is out!
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Mad Medik said:
For those interested in s-off ;-) you may want to take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1573491
OP there indicates he is beta testing an s-off tool on pur device. You may want to express your thatnks and support there...
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The thread magically disappeared.
Installed last night man what a difference.
I came from desire HD, where the dev is huge, to the velocity. Running black ice cm7 based.
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Oops wrong button.
I am not a fan of HTC sense and the stock look and lack of options of the shipped rom.
I guess where I am going is the battery seems to last longer with Ics and the speed of the phone is better. Running adw the draw is still laggy.
Why do phone companies make phones with heavy bloated roms and call it the fastest phone. Just give us the option to turn it all off.
Does anyone have any gossip on cm9. Considering how far is was taken on the dhd can't wait.
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Are all the users getting ICS upgrades or is it like Skyrocket, where limited users got the upgrade
Not to sure. My missus and I have only been on for 6 or so days and we both got it. Seems like everyone. I woonder about the unbranded phones.
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78cortina said:
Not to sure. My missus and I have only been on for 6 or so days and we both got it. Seems like everyone. I woonder about the unbranded phones.
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I got mine yesterday too, seems pretty much country wide all at once
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Incredible S vs Incredible 2: Whats the difference?
nstream said:
Incredible S vs Incredible 2: Whats the difference?
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Incredible S is the european version and Incredible 2 (or Droid Incredible 2) is for Verizon Wireless. One is GSM and the other is CDMA respectively.
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zukri90 said:
Incredible S is the european version and Incredible 2 (or Droid Incredible 2) is for Verizon Wireless. One is GSM and the other is CDMA respectively.
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excellent then, looks like ill go with the incredible s cos of the faster 3g speed, i dont suppose the incredible 2 can be hacked to gsm?
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excellent then, looks like ill go with the incredible s cos of the faster 3g speed, i dont suppose the incredible 2 can be hacked to gsm?
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I don't think so. Besides, both of them have relatively the same specs. So I guess you should just go with the Incredible S
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nstream said:
Incredible S vs Incredible 2: Whats the difference?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3788&idPhone2=3938
zukri90 said:
Incredible S is the european version and Incredible 2 (or Droid Incredible 2) is for Verizon Wireless. One is GSM and the other is CDMA respectively.
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The inc 2 is a global device, capable of gsm and cdma networks, as long as you stick with gb roms.
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thanks for the quick responses guys, appreciate it.
Macrodroid said:
The inc 2 is a global device, capable of gsm and cdma networks, as long as you stick with gb roms.
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Woah that's cool. I think it can be changed via *#*#4636#*#*
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I just came here as an Incredible 2 user to clarify stuff.
The Inc S is the european version of the Inc 2.
Inc S is gsm only with 3g bands for most carriers.
The Inc 2 is the US version of the Inc S.
Inc 2 is a cdma AND a gsm phone with 3G gsm bands for everywhere else but the US. It also has wireless charging.
The 3g WILL work with the JB roms for the Inc 2 just like the IncS.
Its that we got out ics kernel sources late that our development has been slow but we got it so any of you nice folk wanna stop by and develop Please do :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Hope that clarified
MoonMaster345 said:
I just came here as an Incredible 2 user to clarify stuff.
The Inc S is the european version of the Inc 2.
Inc S is gsm only with 3g bands for most carriers.
The Inc 2 is the US version of the Inc S.
Inc 2 is a cdma AND a gsm phone with 3G gsm bands for everywhere else but the US. It also has wireless charging.
The 3g WILL work with the JB roms for the Inc 2 just like the IncS.
Its that we got out ics kernel sources late that our development has been slow but we got it so any of you nice folk wanna stop by and develop Please do :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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ok so if i was to compare the S with the 2, which would have faster internet? (not taking wifi into account, and assuming coverage is not an issue)
nstream said:
ok so if i was to compare the S with the 2, which would have faster internet? (not taking wifi into account, and assuming coverage is not an issue)
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Depends on which carrier you are using
If you're on the same carrier for both, assuming the frequencies the phone uses match the carrier they will be the same speed
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Depends on the carrier mate, gsm vs cdma two very diff things
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I know it's CDMA and everything, but does that make a difference? And If it makes a huge difference and I'm just being stupid, please explain why? I want to flash ARHD to my One, but I can't since it doesn't work on Sprint!
It's not hard to make a rom for it but because of the hardware differences, it's impossible to make a cross flashable Rom for cdma and gsm.
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Even for the One, which is the same across all carriers?
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Bseagull said:
Even for the One, which is the same across all carriers?
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The One is the across all carriers, EXCEPT SPRINT. CDMA and GSM are completely different pieces of hardware, so one ROM cannot address both chips.
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Bseagull said:
I know it's CDMA and everything, but does that make a difference? And If it makes a huge difference and I'm just being stupid, please explain why? I want to flash ARHD to my One, but I can't since it doesn't work on Sprint!
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I was actually happy to leave CDMA carrier like Sprint and start using GSM phone which are more widely used and have far more development due to the fact they have the same hardware as their international counterparts
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On of top that Sprint has such inconsistent and spotty service in many parts of the country. Some parts of the country Sprint compatible networks are all but absent.
There's a reason why Sprint subscribers can get such great price and package deals for their phones & data plans... Becausr they cannot hold onto customers who get lured in by the great deals, then as soon as they leave their comfortable metropolitan areas, they have zero signal in some random small town, where the average AT&T and Verizon customers have at least some phone service.
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spitfire2425 said:
It's not hard to make a rom for it but because of the hardware differences, it's impossible to make a cross flashable Rom for cdma and gsm.
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Using Aroma it is quite easy to do this. There were many ROMs in the EVO 3D forums that had one flash-able zip for GSM and CDMA phones. You just selected in Aroma. I believe Trick Droid for the One in the International forum is also like this.
And it is not harder to make ROMs for the Sprint version. It is just a matter of DEVs. There are more developers for the GSM version and some are more actively developing and therefore there are more ROMs available. Also they have a 4.2.2 kernel as is for their phone and there has not been one released for the Sprint version. Once there is a 4.2.2 Kernel available for the Sprint variant you'll see lots of movement.
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Using Aroma it is quite easy to do this. There were many ROMs in the EVO 3D forums that had one flash-able zip for GSM and CDMA phones. You just selected in Aroma. I believe Trick Droid for the One in the International forum is also like this.
And it is not harder to make ROMs for the Sprint version. It is just a matter of DEVs. There are more developers for the GSM version and some are more actively developing and therefore there are more ROMs available. Also they have a 4.2.2 kernel as is for their phone and there has not been one released for the Sprint version. Once there is a 4.2.2 Kernel available for the Sprint variant you'll see lots of movement.
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Ahh, gotcha! Thanks!
Now I just get to sit here and wait for ARHD to work on Sprint. Maybe when 4.2.2 is released officially on Sprint, right? So then they can get the kernel?
Bseagull said:
Ahh, gotcha! Thanks!
Now I just get to sit here and wait for ARHD to work on Sprint. Maybe when 4.2.2 is released officially on Sprint, right? So then they can get the kernel?
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I think once we get a SPrint 4.2.2 kernel/firmware there will be more crossover, mostly the difference in the the variants is at the kernel level.
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Once there is a 4.2.2 Kernel available for the Sprint variant you'll see lots of movement.
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I agree; I think people are waiting too. It's hard to invest a lot of time into developing a ROM when we'll get a 4.2 release "soon". Sometimes one can just diff to see what's different and incorporate the new features into an already made custom ROM (or vice versa), but it's easier and more stable to start over.
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Now question. Since we have gsm capabilities. If we unlocked our devices in 90 days would we not be able to flash gsm roms?
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HTC_M7 said:
Now question. Since we have gsm capabilities. If we unlocked our devices in 90 days would we not be able to flash gsm roms?
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Short answer is no.
I believe the Sprint phones are Hardware rev 0004 which means they would need a kernel for our specific hardware. It's mostly a kernel thing.