I know it's CDMA and everything, but does that make a difference? And If it makes a huge difference and I'm just being stupid, please explain why? I want to flash ARHD to my One, but I can't since it doesn't work on Sprint!
It's not hard to make a rom for it but because of the hardware differences, it's impossible to make a cross flashable Rom for cdma and gsm.
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Even for the One, which is the same across all carriers?
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Even for the One, which is the same across all carriers?
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The One is the across all carriers, EXCEPT SPRINT. CDMA and GSM are completely different pieces of hardware, so one ROM cannot address both chips.
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I know it's CDMA and everything, but does that make a difference? And If it makes a huge difference and I'm just being stupid, please explain why? I want to flash ARHD to my One, but I can't since it doesn't work on Sprint!
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I was actually happy to leave CDMA carrier like Sprint and start using GSM phone which are more widely used and have far more development due to the fact they have the same hardware as their international counterparts
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On of top that Sprint has such inconsistent and spotty service in many parts of the country. Some parts of the country Sprint compatible networks are all but absent.
There's a reason why Sprint subscribers can get such great price and package deals for their phones & data plans... Becausr they cannot hold onto customers who get lured in by the great deals, then as soon as they leave their comfortable metropolitan areas, they have zero signal in some random small town, where the average AT&T and Verizon customers have at least some phone service.
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It's not hard to make a rom for it but because of the hardware differences, it's impossible to make a cross flashable Rom for cdma and gsm.
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Using Aroma it is quite easy to do this. There were many ROMs in the EVO 3D forums that had one flash-able zip for GSM and CDMA phones. You just selected in Aroma. I believe Trick Droid for the One in the International forum is also like this.
And it is not harder to make ROMs for the Sprint version. It is just a matter of DEVs. There are more developers for the GSM version and some are more actively developing and therefore there are more ROMs available. Also they have a 4.2.2 kernel as is for their phone and there has not been one released for the Sprint version. Once there is a 4.2.2 Kernel available for the Sprint variant you'll see lots of movement.
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Using Aroma it is quite easy to do this. There were many ROMs in the EVO 3D forums that had one flash-able zip for GSM and CDMA phones. You just selected in Aroma. I believe Trick Droid for the One in the International forum is also like this.
And it is not harder to make ROMs for the Sprint version. It is just a matter of DEVs. There are more developers for the GSM version and some are more actively developing and therefore there are more ROMs available. Also they have a 4.2.2 kernel as is for their phone and there has not been one released for the Sprint version. Once there is a 4.2.2 Kernel available for the Sprint variant you'll see lots of movement.
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Ahh, gotcha! Thanks!
Now I just get to sit here and wait for ARHD to work on Sprint. Maybe when 4.2.2 is released officially on Sprint, right? So then they can get the kernel?
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Ahh, gotcha! Thanks!
Now I just get to sit here and wait for ARHD to work on Sprint. Maybe when 4.2.2 is released officially on Sprint, right? So then they can get the kernel?
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I think once we get a SPrint 4.2.2 kernel/firmware there will be more crossover, mostly the difference in the the variants is at the kernel level.
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Once there is a 4.2.2 Kernel available for the Sprint variant you'll see lots of movement.
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I agree; I think people are waiting too. It's hard to invest a lot of time into developing a ROM when we'll get a 4.2 release "soon". Sometimes one can just diff to see what's different and incorporate the new features into an already made custom ROM (or vice versa), but it's easier and more stable to start over.
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Now question. Since we have gsm capabilities. If we unlocked our devices in 90 days would we not be able to flash gsm roms?
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Now question. Since we have gsm capabilities. If we unlocked our devices in 90 days would we not be able to flash gsm roms?
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Short answer is no.
I believe the Sprint phones are Hardware rev 0004 which means they would need a kernel for our specific hardware. It's mostly a kernel thing.
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Does anyone know if there will be a physical difference in the Tmo, Sprint, and AT&T version? What about hardware? If all 3 phones were same, and there needed only one development thread, I'd be thrilled. Probably pipe dream
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Does anyone know if there will be a physical difference in the Tmo, Sprint, and AT&T version? What about hardware? If all 3 phones were same, and there needed only one development thread, I'd be thrilled. Probably pipe dream
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Yes there is some hardware differences, the most prominent one being CDMA vs GSM. You definitely don't want to flash gsm fw on a cdma phone and vice versa.
http://androidspin.com/2013/06/01/htc-one-gets-updated-to-android-4-2-2-still-uses-sense-5-0/
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International only. We should get it in, oh, 3 months...
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http://androidspin.com/2013/06/01/htc-one-gets-updated-to-android-4-2-2-still-uses-sense-5-0/
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It's not an ota it is a leaked ruu. Ota for international is probably a week out and for us a month or so.
No lock screen widgets...failure
looking forward to this
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No lock screen widgets...failure
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I really think they are use less at least we have the eqs that are aosp like. Samsung has some fugly ones
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I really think they are use less at least we have the eqs that are aosp like. Samsung has some fugly ones
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I was just looking forward to some album art on a lock screen widget for the google Music app really..Ah well,hopefully they fixed the productivity lock screen for us..That damn thing seems to only put new messages up when ever it feels like it.
Knowing Sprint we won't get this update for 6 months after it is officially released internationally. Android handset manufacturers need to take a cue from Apple and tell them that they have no say in updates other than makeing sure they are compatible with the radios on a particular device for their network. If Apple can do it so can they, or does apple hold a patent on that.
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Knowing Sprint we won't get this update for 6 months after it is officially released internationally. Android handset manufacturers need to take a cue from Apple and tell them that they have no say in updates other than makeing sure they are compatible with the radios on a particular device for their network. If Apple can do it so can they, or does apple hold a patent on that.
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Yeah because "knowing" sprint is the thing to say when they have been the fastest US carrier to release updates... Damn you sprint for being semi quick about it.
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Htc evo lte got 4.1.2 way before the at&t one X. I still don't know if it got it. Sprint has been pretty good with the htc updates.
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Yeah because "knowing" sprint is the thing to say when they have been the fastest US carrier to release updates... Damn you sprint for being semi quick about it.
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My point is that the carriers hold up updates period. Doesn't matter which carrier it is. Sprint may be faster than other carriers I won't deny that, but they still delay them for what ever reason. I am not hating on sprint alone, they are all guilty of it. I realize they need to test the software on their particular network but that doesn't always justify the length of delay. But thanks for playing.
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Just a heads up I downloaded the android revolution 4.2.2 that was released in the International ONE forum and it has a sprint folder in it with sprint libs,etc so you guys may want to check it out. It also has t-mobile and at&t folder too so i guess he's for one fully compatible zip. Dev is a beast. Also the zip is about 1 GB...all the separate carrier stuff bumped it up a bit.
Try at your own risk.....
EDIT...I checked out his install script and he got the right partition numbers for flashing on the sprint one.
I wouldn't say the carriers "hold" the updates. Lots of testing is needed to insure a good product on their network.
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Just a heads up I downloaded the android revolution 4.2.2 that was released in the International ONE forum and it has a sprint folder in it with sprint libs,etc so you guys may want to check it out. It also has t-mobile and at&t folder too so i guess he's for one fully compatible zip. Dev is a beast. Also the zip is about 1 GB...all the separate carrier stuff bumped it up a bit.
Try at your own risk.....
EDIT...I checked out his install script and he got the right partition numbers for flashing on the sprint one.
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Have you tried flashing it yet? If so run into any issues?
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Just a heads up I downloaded the android revolution 4.2.2 that was released in the International ONE forum and it has a sprint folder in it with sprint libs,etc so you guys may want to check it out. It also has t-mobile and at&t folder too so i guess he's for one fully compatible zip. Dev is a beast. Also the zip is about 1 GB...all the separate carrier stuff bumped it up a bit.
Try at your own risk.....
EDIT...I checked out his install script and he got the right partition numbers for flashing on the sprint one.
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doesnt work
in the sprint folders are all old files from our current base
Ah Ok. Well guess he tried.
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Robert542 said:
My point is that the carriers hold up updates period. Doesn't matter which carrier it is. Sprint may be faster than other carriers I won't deny that, but they still delay them for what ever reason. I am not hating on sprint alone, they are all guilty of it. I realize they need to test the software on their particular network but that doesn't always justify the length of delay. But thanks for playing.
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Keep in mind several factors:
A. HTC might not even push their updates to American carriers until they're done with international versions, due to customizations carriers require here.
B. Different modems and signal bands require additional development and testing time.
C. The testing of a device is actually quite lengthy, because the last thing a carrier (and HTC) wants is some incompatibility causing interference with towers or something. This is why the FCC checks these devices btw.
My friend on T-Mobile is getting the update OTA right now as I type this... c'mon Sprint!
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Knowing Sprint we won't get this update for 6 months after it is officially released internationally. Android handset manufacturers need to take a cue from Apple and tell them that they have no say in updates other than makeing sure they are compatible with the radios on a particular device for their network. If Apple can do it so can they, or does apple hold a patent on that.
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Would you like to place a wager on that?
http://m.androidcentral.com/google-...rce-released?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
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Maybe this will hold the key to getting things going.
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Well this is a first
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maybe they released it by mistake lol
this is not like HTC at all
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maybe they released it by mistake lol
this is not like HTC at all
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That was my reaction lol
Maybe HTC is finally chang--nah. That can't be it
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Quick, grab it before they realize what they did and pull it!!!
Can anyone with ROM making knowledge tell me if this will be useful for us, considering we use the CDMA version of the phone?
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Can anyone with ROM making knowledge tell me if this will be useful for us, considering we use the CDMA version of the phone?
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Hardware is almost exactly the same
Also. Kernel has almost nothing to do with cellular connections, it specifies how the software should interact with the hardware and nothing else
The GPE port and 4.2.2 sense 5 ports are both using kernels made for the international version
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CNexus said:
Hardware is almost exactly the same
Also. Kernel has almost nothing to do with cellular connections, it specifies how the software should interact with the hardware and nothing else
The GPE port and 4.2.2 sense 5 ports are both using kernels made for the international version
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So we have to wait for HTC to release 4.2 CDMA radios, or CDMA 4.3 radios, for those roms to work? Like we have the google edition port, but data doesn't work. What do we need to get that fixed?
No we don't have to wait for that. We have all we need to get it working now. Just give it a few mire days.
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So we have to wait for HTC to release 4.2 CDMA radios, or CDMA 4.3 radios, for those roms to work? Like we have the google edition port, but data doesn't work. What do we need to get that fixed?
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Framework/smali edits are all that's left
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I would say once Verizon gets the One progress can be made... But at this rate, we will get an official update before they release the device. Lol
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And on that note, 4.3 has been released for the Google Edition phones. http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/2/4584200/galaxy-s4-and-htc-one-google-play-editions-receiving-android-4-3
I am so jelly right now. Well, at least porting it to the CMDA One shouldn't be that difficult if I'm understanding correctly.
Why is there such a huge difference between the Rom ability. I know it's a different network code but isn't the One able to run both anyways? Why are some roms GSM only. When I had my Photon nothing like that mattered.
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As far as I know, almost all ones are the same, except for the sprint model. I believe the partitions are different on the sprint model, and flashing a ROM designed for anything else will not work.
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I was wondering this because I have somebody that wants to trade there ONE for my Nexus 4. Is there a way to make this the Google edition by flashing a rom? Also can't I just flash T-mobile radio's to get it to work on T-mobile if it doesn't?
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I was wondering this because I have somebody that wants to trade there ONE for my Nexus 4. Is there a way to make this the Google edition by flashing a rom? Also can't I just flash T-mobile radio's to get it to work on T-mobile if it doesn't?
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There are plenty of threads that go into in depth discussion about this. Search for them. As of now, the answer seems to be no. You can get LTE and 3g but not HSPA+ I believe? I'm not sure of the details...
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damon7620 said:
I was wondering this because I have somebody that wants to trade there ONE for my Nexus 4. Is there a way to make this the Google edition by flashing a rom? Also can't I just flash T-mobile radio's to get it to work on T-mobile if it doesn't?
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It will work on T-Mobile edge/2G only as of now
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dirtbikerr450 said:
It will work on T-Mobile edge/2G only as of now
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FML I finally find somebody willing to trade straight across and it's not worth it x.x
If it is worth your while to trade I would look into the possibility of flashing compatible radios, which in many cases is quite feasible. On another note the HTC One is an excellent device which only took minutes for me to transform into a Google Play Edition on not only an AT&T GSM variant, but a Sprint CDMA version as well. These ROMS even allow OTA updates, so as I said before if its worth your while there should be a solution. Please come to me with any issues or concerns you may have, I have been working with the HTC One for some time now and have become quite familiar with the device.
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