Does anyone know if there will be a physical difference in the Tmo, Sprint, and AT&T version? What about hardware? If all 3 phones were same, and there needed only one development thread, I'd be thrilled. Probably pipe dream
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big70tom said:
Does anyone know if there will be a physical difference in the Tmo, Sprint, and AT&T version? What about hardware? If all 3 phones were same, and there needed only one development thread, I'd be thrilled. Probably pipe dream
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Yes there is some hardware differences, the most prominent one being CDMA vs GSM. You definitely don't want to flash gsm fw on a cdma phone and vice versa.
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Hello community,
I couldn't find any info through the Search, so I was hoping someone could let me know if a rooted Nexus One for T-Mobile would work on AT&T. I have the unlocked bootloader, custom recovery image and ROM, the whole 9 yards, but what I don't have is the understanding about GSM networks and how the modifications I made to my phone affect the cross-network compatibility.
Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.
The two models operate on different gsm bands. An unrooted t-mobile n1 will work on att, but only on edge..
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drewzee said:
The two models operate on different gsm bands. An unrooted t-mobile n1 will work on att, but only on edge..
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They are ALL sold unlocked in the states.
True but there's 2 different unlocked versions and what the guy above you said is true.
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They are ALL sold unlocked in the states.
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Rooting should have no affect on it.
And if its the TMO version of the phone you will only have 2g (edge) on ATT. Seeing as both networks use different frequencies. And the cellular antenna will only be tuned to pick up 3g+ signals from TMOs frequencies.
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Branden10 said:
Rooting should have no affect on it.
I think..
But AT&T doesn't allow apps to be installed via apk files. So no 3rd party stuff.
If I'm correct.
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You are so painfully incorrect. At&t has no presence on this phone. Get your facts right before you post here.
a T-Mobile Nexus One wont work on at&t's 3G network. Only on edge. Rooting has no effect.
Now close the thread.
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Hi as i wait for my skyrocket to get fixed a friend loned me a nexus one with the s/n ending in 100 t-mobile in the us or videotron in canada my original network is rogers like att in the us.
My question is this if i flash a 110 version on this 100 version phone would it unlock the radio bands needed for 3g or is it really hardware specific?
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Not being from the US or Canada I can't answer that directly. However something tells me that you can't/shouldn't do it.
Be very careful or you could end up bricking it. Perhaps you'd be better off using it "as is" until you get your own phone back.
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Jahcure said:
My question is this if i flash a 110 version on this 100 version phone would it unlock the radio bands needed for 3g or is it really hardware specific?
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Hardware specific.
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Nexus One FAQ will answer you.
Incredible S vs Incredible 2: Whats the difference?
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Incredible S vs Incredible 2: Whats the difference?
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Incredible S is the european version and Incredible 2 (or Droid Incredible 2) is for Verizon Wireless. One is GSM and the other is CDMA respectively.
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zukri90 said:
Incredible S is the european version and Incredible 2 (or Droid Incredible 2) is for Verizon Wireless. One is GSM and the other is CDMA respectively.
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excellent then, looks like ill go with the incredible s cos of the faster 3g speed, i dont suppose the incredible 2 can be hacked to gsm?
nstream said:
excellent then, looks like ill go with the incredible s cos of the faster 3g speed, i dont suppose the incredible 2 can be hacked to gsm?
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I don't think so. Besides, both of them have relatively the same specs. So I guess you should just go with the Incredible S
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Incredible S vs Incredible 2: Whats the difference?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3788&idPhone2=3938
zukri90 said:
Incredible S is the european version and Incredible 2 (or Droid Incredible 2) is for Verizon Wireless. One is GSM and the other is CDMA respectively.
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The inc 2 is a global device, capable of gsm and cdma networks, as long as you stick with gb roms.
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thanks for the quick responses guys, appreciate it.
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The inc 2 is a global device, capable of gsm and cdma networks, as long as you stick with gb roms.
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Woah that's cool. I think it can be changed via *#*#4636#*#*
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I just came here as an Incredible 2 user to clarify stuff.
The Inc S is the european version of the Inc 2.
Inc S is gsm only with 3g bands for most carriers.
The Inc 2 is the US version of the Inc S.
Inc 2 is a cdma AND a gsm phone with 3G gsm bands for everywhere else but the US. It also has wireless charging.
The 3g WILL work with the JB roms for the Inc 2 just like the IncS.
Its that we got out ics kernel sources late that our development has been slow but we got it so any of you nice folk wanna stop by and develop Please do :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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I just came here as an Incredible 2 user to clarify stuff.
The Inc S is the european version of the Inc 2.
Inc S is gsm only with 3g bands for most carriers.
The Inc 2 is the US version of the Inc S.
Inc 2 is a cdma AND a gsm phone with 3G gsm bands for everywhere else but the US. It also has wireless charging.
The 3g WILL work with the JB roms for the Inc 2 just like the IncS.
Its that we got out ics kernel sources late that our development has been slow but we got it so any of you nice folk wanna stop by and develop Please do :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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ok so if i was to compare the S with the 2, which would have faster internet? (not taking wifi into account, and assuming coverage is not an issue)
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ok so if i was to compare the S with the 2, which would have faster internet? (not taking wifi into account, and assuming coverage is not an issue)
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Depends on which carrier you are using
If you're on the same carrier for both, assuming the frequencies the phone uses match the carrier they will be the same speed
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Depends on the carrier mate, gsm vs cdma two very diff things
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I know it's CDMA and everything, but does that make a difference? And If it makes a huge difference and I'm just being stupid, please explain why? I want to flash ARHD to my One, but I can't since it doesn't work on Sprint!
It's not hard to make a rom for it but because of the hardware differences, it's impossible to make a cross flashable Rom for cdma and gsm.
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Even for the One, which is the same across all carriers?
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Bseagull said:
Even for the One, which is the same across all carriers?
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The One is the across all carriers, EXCEPT SPRINT. CDMA and GSM are completely different pieces of hardware, so one ROM cannot address both chips.
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Bseagull said:
I know it's CDMA and everything, but does that make a difference? And If it makes a huge difference and I'm just being stupid, please explain why? I want to flash ARHD to my One, but I can't since it doesn't work on Sprint!
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I was actually happy to leave CDMA carrier like Sprint and start using GSM phone which are more widely used and have far more development due to the fact they have the same hardware as their international counterparts
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On of top that Sprint has such inconsistent and spotty service in many parts of the country. Some parts of the country Sprint compatible networks are all but absent.
There's a reason why Sprint subscribers can get such great price and package deals for their phones & data plans... Becausr they cannot hold onto customers who get lured in by the great deals, then as soon as they leave their comfortable metropolitan areas, they have zero signal in some random small town, where the average AT&T and Verizon customers have at least some phone service.
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It's not hard to make a rom for it but because of the hardware differences, it's impossible to make a cross flashable Rom for cdma and gsm.
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Using Aroma it is quite easy to do this. There were many ROMs in the EVO 3D forums that had one flash-able zip for GSM and CDMA phones. You just selected in Aroma. I believe Trick Droid for the One in the International forum is also like this.
And it is not harder to make ROMs for the Sprint version. It is just a matter of DEVs. There are more developers for the GSM version and some are more actively developing and therefore there are more ROMs available. Also they have a 4.2.2 kernel as is for their phone and there has not been one released for the Sprint version. Once there is a 4.2.2 Kernel available for the Sprint variant you'll see lots of movement.
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Using Aroma it is quite easy to do this. There were many ROMs in the EVO 3D forums that had one flash-able zip for GSM and CDMA phones. You just selected in Aroma. I believe Trick Droid for the One in the International forum is also like this.
And it is not harder to make ROMs for the Sprint version. It is just a matter of DEVs. There are more developers for the GSM version and some are more actively developing and therefore there are more ROMs available. Also they have a 4.2.2 kernel as is for their phone and there has not been one released for the Sprint version. Once there is a 4.2.2 Kernel available for the Sprint variant you'll see lots of movement.
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Ahh, gotcha! Thanks!
Now I just get to sit here and wait for ARHD to work on Sprint. Maybe when 4.2.2 is released officially on Sprint, right? So then they can get the kernel?
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Ahh, gotcha! Thanks!
Now I just get to sit here and wait for ARHD to work on Sprint. Maybe when 4.2.2 is released officially on Sprint, right? So then they can get the kernel?
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I think once we get a SPrint 4.2.2 kernel/firmware there will be more crossover, mostly the difference in the the variants is at the kernel level.
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Once there is a 4.2.2 Kernel available for the Sprint variant you'll see lots of movement.
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I agree; I think people are waiting too. It's hard to invest a lot of time into developing a ROM when we'll get a 4.2 release "soon". Sometimes one can just diff to see what's different and incorporate the new features into an already made custom ROM (or vice versa), but it's easier and more stable to start over.
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Now question. Since we have gsm capabilities. If we unlocked our devices in 90 days would we not be able to flash gsm roms?
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Now question. Since we have gsm capabilities. If we unlocked our devices in 90 days would we not be able to flash gsm roms?
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Short answer is no.
I believe the Sprint phones are Hardware rev 0004 which means they would need a kernel for our specific hardware. It's mostly a kernel thing.
Why is there such a huge difference between the Rom ability. I know it's a different network code but isn't the One able to run both anyways? Why are some roms GSM only. When I had my Photon nothing like that mattered.
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Bump because seriously curious
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As far as I know, almost all ones are the same, except for the sprint model. I believe the partitions are different on the sprint model, and flashing a ROM designed for anything else will not work.
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