C80 Pics/Differences - Nexus 7 General

I stopped in my local Gamestop yesterday to pickup Madden 13 and ended up leaving with a Nexus 7 too lol. Ill be giving this one to my gf but I just wanted to post a few pics of some things that may be slightly different about the C80 production runs. I didnt do a complete teardown of the unit so I cant say if any changes have been made to combat the over exaggerated screen lift stuff but I have noticed a few small changes. I honestly dont think anything has really changed in terms of manufacturing but these units had just came in yesterday morning so im assuming it was a fresh batch.
First up is the box. Im not sure when they made this change but my C70 didnt have the notches on the box for easy opening. I remember kinda having a hard time separating the box when I first got my C70.
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Second thing I noticed was the C80 units have a few screws missing. Im not sure if this is something they just started doing, but I exchanged three C80 units at Gamestop yesterday because me and the manager thought it was a flaw but all 3 random units had the two missing screws.
Here are a few shots of the back cover and unit. Im not sure if anything is different but maybe someone whos more familiar with the insides may notice something.
I did noticed the serial # on the rear sticker is now printed in white as opposed to black:

They probably realized all those screws put too much pressure & therefore causing lift.

demandarin said:
They probably realized all those screws put too much pressure & therefore causing lift.
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Yeah I figured they did it for a reason. Hopefully we can a confirmation on this so I can know if my units are in fact missing screws.

My C80 should be at my doorstep within a couple hours. Having accidentally cracked the screen on my C60 while trying to fix the screen lift, I hope this is is void of issues.

ThirtyHz said:
My C80 should be at my doorstep within a couple hours. Having accidentally cracked the screen on my C60 while trying to fix the screen lift, I hope this is is void of issues.
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Nice! Please keep us updated on your C80 findings. My C60 cracked randomly the other day (sent an email from it, walked to my car, looked down, cracked) and I sent it in to ASUS. Part of me wonders if the C80's are fixed enough to prevent this from happening to anybody else.

JaSauders said:
Nice! Please keep us updated on your C80 findings. My C60 cracked randomly the other day (sent an email from it, walked to my car, looked down, cracked) and I sent it in to ASUS. Part of me wonders if the C80's are fixed enough to prevent this from happening to anybody else.
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Yeah man, for sure. First thing I do after opening it will be sharing what I find with everyone. And I can 100% sympathize with a cracked screen haha, its an awful feeling that you have to eat the $200-250 and get a new one :/

I removed those 2 screws on my C70 just now If the reason is in fact to reduce the stress on the screen to reduce cracking, then maybe it's recommended C60 and C70 owners to do this too?

Hi!!!
Sorry my english is so bad...
I have just opened my tablet, it is the C80 version too. And there are missing the same screws as in your tablet.

Asus fix is remove screws!
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nineuni said:
Hi!!!
Sorry my english is so bad...
I have just opened my tablet, it is the C80 version too. And there are missing the same screws as in your tablet.
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Sweet! So I guess this was something done on purpose. I'll see if I can get a official word from Asus regarding this. It would be kinda funny if all the people returning earlier built tablets because of missing screws found out it was done like that intentionally lol.

I also have removed those screws on my C6O. The screen is not lifted now, and when i put pressure on the opposite corners of tablet, i don`t hear crackling.
I hope it will be pernament fix of this problem.

Bigjim1488 said:
Asus fix is remove screws!
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****, im unscrewing mine as soon as i get home.
.....well that came out awkward.

Is missing screws only difference?
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Wow this is interesting. Gonna remove those screws from mine too.

Alright, so I just got mine in the mail (my second purchase) and I was VERY disappointed at first. I received a C60...... WTF? So I open it up and the screen is flush, not lower than bezel, flush.... all around. ZERO screen flicker, ZERO light bleed, very responsive, colors are correct, no dead pixels, speakers work, some ghosting on max brightness, but that is to be expected of IPS screens. Now I need to get it super hot and see if the screen stays. If there is anything I missed I will post it. Oh, and it also looks like my box had been re-used because there was a second layer of tape on the black box. Was mine refurbished? Who cares, so far so good.

ThirtyHz said:
Alright, so I just got mine in the mail (my second purchase) and I was VERY disappointed at first. I received a C60...... WTF? So I open it up and the screen is flush, not lower than bezel, flush.... all around. ZERO screen flicker, ZERO light bleed, very responsive, colors are correct, no dead pixels, speakers work, some ghosting on max brightness, but that is to be expected of IPS screens. Now I need to get it super hot and see if the screen stays. One big thing to note is, my back cover doesn't come off. It is almost as if it is glued down. If there is anything I missed I will post it. Oh, and it also looks like my box had been re-used because there was a second layer of tape on the black box. Was mine refurbished? Who cares, so far so good.
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Not sure how easy your back was to get off on your last unit, but with mine, I had to use quite a bit of effort on my C70 (fingernail + credit card + force)

espionage724 said:
Not sure how easy your back was to get off on your last unit, but with mine, I had to use quite a bit of effort on my C70 (fingernail + credit card + force)
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I got it lol, and you know how the new ones have those two screws removed... well i removed those from mine. so i guess i have a c80 now lololol

espionage724 said:
Not sure how easy your back was to get off on your last unit, but with mine, I had to use quite a bit of effort on my C70 (fingernail + credit card + force)
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+1 the new C80 took alot of force to get off. I thought mines was glued too when I first tried lol.

ThirtyHz said:
I got it lol, and you know how the new ones have those two screws removed... well i removed those from mine. so i guess i have a c80 now lololol
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My last replacement was a C70 and had the screws removed.

can someone with a c08 model take a better pic of the back cover off? theres two clips on the left side that goes over where the screen data ribbon is and just wanted to know if they change those at all. this point is where a lot of people get screen lift.

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broke screen, my experiance

So while chasing my 2yr old son around, I bumped a chair with my belt holder and my phone and holder became a projectial. it was like slow motion for a moment while I tried to grab it before it hit the floor, but I was too late. I pick it up and hit the power button only to discover a pretty crack in the screen.
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Luckily, a few months back I discovered MyMobile. A program that allows you to view your phone's screen on a computer through a data cable. I connected my phone and pull up MyMobile and the 1st thing i did was my stuff on my phone. the touched screen worked
pic of mymobile on my pc
print screen image
I was going to buy a friend's Kaiser, but after some research I found a eBay seller with a deal on a screen, digitizer, and tools needed for the job for $34.49 shipped. the user name is yallstore, and their website is yallstore.com. one of the better experiances I've had on eBay.
I got the package in the mail today.
i took the 4 screws out the back of tilt section and used the pry tool to loosened the housing. then, diconnected the ribbon cable and pulled the busted screen out.
I then slid the new screen in ,connected the ribbon cable and tested it before i put everything back together.
sucess
anyone need a digitizer (touchscreen part) ???
i gotta a used one
just wanted to say thanks for posting ur exp, unfortnately my screen on my tilt broke yesterday , saw your thread, and promptly ordered a new screen from yallstore. Currently using my tilt through mymobile lol, but, how long did it take for you to recieve your package? i ordered the priority shipping for 10$ since i needed it by next week.
about 5 days. the seller is in NY and i'm in GA.
Alrite cool, im in FL, shouldnt be too long
easy install?
Cool i am gona order one today.. Your way looks easy, i watched a youtube screen replacement video amd looked like you had to take the whole thing completely apart was like 10 to 15 steps to do lol. Your way looks a lot better. lets hope i dont mess it up . thanks for the link to the seller also.
yeah, it's not that hard. the hardest part is prying the housing apart. i found a good write up that i used as a referance while doing mine. i'll see if i can find it
ahhh, I bookmarked it
here it is http://www.formymobile.co.uk/vodafone1615disassembly.php
hope this helped
thanks
Ok good deal, i'll look it up. I ordered the screen from the same place you did. I had sold my tilt and didnt know how much i would miss a cell with windows so i was at a flea market and a guy had a tilt there with a $45.00 price on it so i asked whats wrong with it and he said its has a red blue white screen and didnt know what was wrong. He got it at an estate sale and didnt want to fix it. I said well i can and ill take it. Flashed it and all good but the screen had a crack in the corner so i figured well worth it to fix it and have a tilt for under $100.
cogcaviz24 said:
ahhh, I bookmarked it
here it is http://www.formymobile.co.uk/vodafone1615disassembly.php
hope this helped
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Hey, thanks! i havent even thought about looking for one of these lol, i guess i was planning on just unscrewing the whole thing till i eventually got the new screen in
The new screen came in yesterday, put the screen in flawlessly, one thing i noticed, the new screen has a light, mattish coating on the screen while my stock screen is glossy.
Anyways, thanks for the link, my tilt is back now!
matte screen
I ordred one too and though it would be glossy like the original. Onces it is powered on does the screen look as sharp as before or notice any diffrence?
Thanks
Its as sharp as before, it just takes a bit to get used to the new coating because when uve been used to the old glossy screen and switch to a matte screen it definitely looks a lil blurry, but it isnt.
ok good
Ok good deal. And by the way i am gona try that Android soon hahaha soon as i get brave enough
azazelx said:
The new screen came in yesterday, put the screen in flawlessly, one thing i noticed, the new screen has a light, mattish coating on the screen while my stock screen is glossy.
Anyways, thanks for the link, my tilt is back now!
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hmmm, mine is realy glossy. so glossy in fact that I like it better with the screen protector I bought on it
glad things worked out for you
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Ok good deal, i'll look it up. I ordered the screen from the same place you did. I had sold my tilt and didnt know how much i would miss a cell with windows so i was at a flea market and a guy had a tilt there with a $45.00 price on it so i asked whats wrong with it and he said its has a red blue white screen and didnt know what was wrong. He got it at an estate sale and didnt want to fix it. I said well i can and ill take it. Flashed it and all good but the screen had a crack in the corner so i figured well worth it to fix it and have a tilt for under $100.
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nice find, i dont have that kind of luck
Ah-Ha! i figured out what was different! I contacted yallstore support when the lcd had a little bubble in the upper right hand corner, and i asked if there was a plastic covering on it, and there was! I pulled off the covering and it looks exactly like the original! Its glossy, and its just awesome now! I didnt think there was a covering on when i first installed it because it was just so perfect! And its not a little blurry anymore!
Ok lol i emailed them to about it this afternoon and have not heard back yet but cool thats good news i feel better now.
Got the screen today and installed 10 minutes and all good.
Thanks for the links and the info for sure
bump for the recent broke screen posts.
yallstore on ebay or yallstore.com

disappointed with HTC...

so i upgraded to get HTC Vivid.. love it. but, after a few days of using it this is what happened
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i took care of this phone.. had it in my pocket the whole time.. and look!
now my concern is whether or not ATT will take it back.. i am so upset.. i paid 200 for this phone. i did not want to put a cover over it because of the look & style of phone. and oh yea its rooted!
That's either a strange defect or you carry sandpaper in your pocket.
Either way bum deal sorry to hear about it
Drew
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BangyaHead said:
so i upgraded to get HTC Vivid.. love it. but, after a few days of using it this is what happened
i took care of this phone.. had it in my pocket the whole time.. and look!
now my concern is whether or not ATT will take it back.. i am so upset.. i paid 200 for this phone. i did not want to put a cover over it because of the look & style of phone. and oh yea its rooted!
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Buy a clear case if you still want to keep the style. If you want to try warranty and claim it a defect, go ahead. Rooting and unlocking the bootloader will not deny you warranty for physical problems like yours.
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so unfair.. i think im just gonna go back to the att store and have them do something about it all because im too lazy to contact HTC and press a bunch of numbers lol. i don't understand how this could have happened.. so strange.
BangyaHead said:
so i upgraded to get HTC Vivid.. love it. but, after a few days of using it this is what happened
i took care of this phone.. had it in my pocket the whole time.. and look!
now my concern is whether or not ATT will take it back.. i am so upset.. i paid 200 for this phone. i did not want to put a cover over it because of the look & style of phone. and oh yea its rooted!
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I really hope you're not just trolling. If not I apologize but I just can't buy that all of that is from a few days use. I've been on my Vivid with no case for almost a couple weeks now and don't show anything remotely close to that. What are setting it down on? Or what else do you have in your pockets?
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trolling? never. i am not setting it down anywhere...i hate doing that..its always in my hand. i go to school in the morning and its in my pocket.. always.. same thing at work. i don't remember dropping it at all.. nothing in my pocket.
BangyaHead said:
trolling? never. i am not setting it down anywhere...i hate doing that..its always in my hand. i go to school in the morning and its in my pocket.. always.. same thing at work. i don't remember dropping it at all.. nothing in my pocket.
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Maybe start using some hand lotion?
Give the guy a break. I've had the phone since release day and have the same issue. In fact, my phone already had one faded spot on the battery cover when I pulled it out of the box brand new.
also another thing i keep noticing and its bothering me for some reason.. when phone is on or lit.. wenever i tilt the phone down or sideways and look at the edges of lcd i can see white line running across i don't know if that's normal part of the lcd or not..
dusty2422 said:
Give the guy a break. I've had the phone since release day and have the same issue. In fact, my phone already had one faded spot on the battery cover when I pulled it out of the box brand new.
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I'm not trying to give him a hard time. Just having a hard time believing that it's only from a few days of use pulling in and out of pocket. My usage is the same and do not even see a hint of it. Maybe a bad batch of Vivids went out? Even so, I'd take it back and exchange it.
BangyaHead said:
also another thing i keep noticing and its bothering me for some reason.. when phone is on or lit.. wenever i tilt the phone down or sideways and look at the edges of lcd i can see white line running across i don't know if that's normal part of the lcd or not..
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I think that's probably back light bleed you're seeing. It's common on most LCD displays.
will it eventually spread? is it common with all Vivids?? can anyone else notice it?
sorry guys but i paid 200 for this device.. i wanna know all these things before i change my mind and get skyrocket..
Mine has a little fading, but thats just because I decided to slide it over to someone (numerous times back n forth) while not in the right of mind... But mines not nearly that bad.
sorry i just realized this picture is ultimate fail.. but you get what im talking about..
I haven't seen this issue, but I got the white vivid.
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sorry i just realized this picture is ultimate fail.. but you get what im talking about..
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That's just the back light lighting up the edge of the glass. No, it won't spread.
On a side note, it seems like you're trying to talk yourself into getting rid of it anyways, no?
I had the same thing happen to me about a week after I got my Vivid. I had no idea what it was, I assumed it occurred from when I dropped the phone once.
Do you have granite lining your pockets? I can't even fathom how this would happen. I have a white Vivid, so the paint could be different, but I have had a lot of phones and never used a case on any of them and I have yet to even scratch one. The closest I ever came to the kind of damage you're showing is when I used to slide a Blackberry curve in and out of a plastic clip holster numerous times/day. I can't fathom how jean pockets can do this to a phone.
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I'm not trying to give him a hard time. Just having a hard time believing that it's only from a few days of use pulling in and out of pocket. My usage is the same and do not even see a hint of it. Maybe a bad batch of Vivids went out? Even so, I'd take it back and exchange it.
I think that's probably back light bleed you're seeing. It's common on most LCD displays.
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I saw this on my phone too yesterday, but it doesn't appear when the screen is off so I think it must be back light bleed. I freaked out a little at first, thinking something was defective inside the screen!
BangyaHead said:
will it eventually spread? is it common with all Vivids?? can anyone else notice it?
sorry guys but i paid 200 for this device.. i wanna know all these things before i change my mind and get skyrocket..
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There's no way that's from a few days of use. Post the date of your reciept. I've had mine without a case since december 6th. It still looks brand new. And you paid $200? So? I paid nearly $600
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broseph23 said:
There's no way that's from a few days of use. Post the date of your reciept. I've had mine without a case since december 6th. It still looks brand new. And you paid $200? So? I paid nearly $600
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Me too, brother, though it was the best $600 I've spent in a long time. Way happier with this phone than my iPhone 4s and most of the other Android phones I have had.

NEW FIX for screen separation issue! (tested & working by most members already)

originally made this in the original screen fix thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29363298&postcount=638
randroid123 said:
... I'll probably just forget about it. I'm glad that this fix is working for everyone though and I definitely think it deserves it's own thread for those that don't feel like digging through 75 pages of potential fixes
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Making this, detailed step-by-step, for those who don't want to dig thru that thread (Hopefully I'm not violating any rules. If so, Mods please replace my original post with this one)
ok I think I've discover the cause of the lift.
Got a replacement due to screen lift and guess what the new one had a slight lift on the lower left.
I figure must be a loose screw, it's not as bad as the old one where the whole left side bulged out.
So I open it and found all the screws to be snug. So I unscrewed the lower left, thinking it's too tight and that's where I discover the cause.
It's not that the screws are too loose, it's that there isn't enough space between the frame & the glass. So the tighter you screw it in, the further you're pushing the screen out, causing the lift.
Here's the simple solution I came up with.
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You'll need the following:
Nexus 7 with back cover removed
Pill Blister Pack (Allergy pills from walmart shown)
Small screwdrivers
Scissors and/or knife
Sewing Needle (not pictured)
needle nose pliers OPTIONAL (for those with thick fingers)
First you need to make a hole in the blister for the screw to go thru.
Here I'm using a sewing machine like a drill press to create my hole.
Next, cut out a rectangle and use your small screwdriver (Bigger than the needle, but smaller than the screw)
This will make the hole bigger for the screw to fit. While blister is still on screwdriver, use your knife and run it around the excess plastic created by the screwdriver.
Remove the blister and trim the corners so that it'll fit in the round frame
Remove the screw from the frame and slide the blister in between the frame
Screw the screw back snug, DON'T OVER TORQUE IT!
Right away the screen lift is gone where the blister is installed. Repeat for each screw where the screen is lifting up.
Cut away the excess so you can put the cover back on
Don't cut it flush to the frame, leave a little so you can grab it and remove it if you need to.
OPTIONAL - use a flathead to push that little bit down to eliminate any chance of obstructing the back cover.
Snap the back cover back on and enjoy your flush screen.
depending on how much lift you have, you might have to use 2 or more to fill the gap. But beware, the more you add the thicker the frame will be and you might run into issues with the back cover not fitting snug.
Looks interesting, might give this a whirl later.
ya!
After receiving my replacement today only to find out it had the same problem I tried this and so far so good! I hope it stays! Thank you for this!
Awesome job :good:
Update: Failed. Spent Hour trying this. Keeps coming back just putting the case back on. Ill try again on Monday. Used same thickness plastic, then tried thinner, then tried IDE Floppy Cable (ASUS brand haha).
I am sending this back anyways. Here is my before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jDIgiWFPgc
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Tried it with 1 on top. 2 on top. 2 on bottom (Pictured below). All 4.
I'll confirm this is still working 24 hours later and feels more solid than it did when I first took It out of the box. Thank you so much! I started the RMA process and received the links to order my replacement when I read they hold another $225 from your account until they receive the original back and determine I caused no damage. You saved me a lot of time/hassle/and money being held from me for at least 1-2 weeks.
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Yes thank you man, I tried it when you first posted it yesterday, I can vouch for the fix in this thread as i did the previous one, so happy that it is working for me and several others, it is well worth the 10-20 minutes to perform the fix.
I wish this would work on mine, but my problem is clearly related to a bad adhesive job. I'm almost tempted to re-glue it myself considering there is nothing else wrong with the thing but I'll give Google one more chance to send me a perfect one.
How about a donation link? I'd like to buy you a beer or 2 for your fix.
Wonderful job with the pictures man, they really helped. I can confirm that this works perfect for me too. I just did not but the tablet immediately feels better. No squishyness at all. With the previous fix (tightening the screws) the screen still felt squishy. Nothing now. It feels just as sturdy as the right hand side.
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_MetalHead_ said:
I wish this would work on mine, but my problem is clearly related to a bad adhesive job. I'm almost tempted to re-glue it myself considering there is nothing else wrong with the thing but I'll give Google one more chance to send me a perfect one.
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I initially thought mine may have been adhesive related.. but turns out after this fix, it really is not.
Edit: id highly suggest giving this a try, it isnt difficult, probably cannot be detected as "user modification" if you remove the makeshift washers. If you dont want to that's your call, but i think the problem is still fixable with this method.
acroanidd said:
I initially thought mine may have been adhesive related.. but turns out after this fix, it really is not.
Edit: id highly suggest giving this a try, it isnt difficult, probably cannot be detected as "user modification" if you remove the makeshift washers. If you dont want to that's your call, but i think the problem is still fixable with this method.
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I dunno man, I can actually see underneath the glass on mine, that's how bad it is. I might give this a shot while I'm waiting for my replacement but I really don't expect it to do any good. I am happy for everybody who is finding success with this, just don't see myself being one of those lucky people.
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_MetalHead_ said:
I dunno man, I can actually see underneath the glass on mine, that's how bad it is. I might give this a shot while I'm waiting for my replacement but I really don't expect it to do any good. I am happy for everybody who is finding success with this, just don't see myself being one of those lucky people.
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I really would give this a shot...I'm convinced the issue is not adhesive related. My tab doesn't actually have a screen lift issue... it has been making a crunching sound that i discovered is actually just the black tape/insulation that the little black foam piece is glued to. If you remove the back cover and just fiddle with that black insulation you should hear the crunching i described. I am 90% sure that the crunching sound people are reporting is really not going to affect your devices integrity at all. Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that one.
So far so good. Let's see whether it stays that way or not. The left side feel solid now
Thanks for the fix and the photos.
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I just opened up my buddy's N7 with him, and check this out. It looks like the N7 already has some type of circular washers in this spot. OP, and those of you who have done this - did your N7s have these circular washers as well, or was that space totally hollow? I couldn't tell from your pictures. I've attached pictures so you can see what I'm talking about. It doesn't look like there's room in here to add the blister pack washers you guys are talking about, unless I really have to struggle to shove them in. Is it possible some N7s were missing these washers?
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I just opened up my buddy's N7 with him, and check this out. It looks like the N7 already has some type of circular washers in this spot. OP, and those of you who have done this - did your N7s have these circular washers as well, or was that space totally hollow? I couldn't tell from your pictures. I've attached pictures so you can see what I'm talking about. It doesn't look like there's room in here to add the blister pack washers you guys are talking about, unless I really have to struggle to shove them in. Is it possible some N7s were missing these washers?
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No, those were there on all of them. Those do not come out as far as i can tell. The blister washer goes in between the black round part and the back plate where the screw enters. Its snug but it should be, this will allow you to snug up the screws and alleviate the pressure on the screen. People seem to forget that only adhesive would not cause glass to bend, it would just sit loose but not protrude upward without a force behind it.
I just did what op did and everything is working fine. Fantastic work!
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You, sir, are brilliant. I just did the fix and it seems to be holding well. I'll see how it is tomorrow but the logic behind it seems solid.
Thank you for sharing!
Performed the fix, and it seems to have fixed the problem on my friend's N7. The OP is smarter than stinking Asus! Bravo.
One minor issue on the N7 I did this on is the back doesn't seem to be completely flush with the bezel now in the area with the washers, but this beats the screen lifting.
Have people allowed enough time after performing this and rechecked their screens? Everyone was saying retorquing the screws was the fix, and it initially looked like it did help, but eventually the screen came back up.
Thanks for the fix, but to be honest all this seems to be ridiculous, there should be no defect in a product you had to pay good money for. I'm hoping a fix comes soon out of the box.

Shame on ifixit!

ifixit undoubtedly has the best teardown guides, but when they said that the nexus 5 front panel is a "fused flustercluck" that really bugged me.
To be honest i think their style has changed from when they first started, now the teardown guides seem to make a few too many jokes and links to irrelevant stuff. I'm not a huge fan of this, but I'm holding that against them as everyone has their own style.
But saying that the N5 front panle is a fused flustercluck just bugged me when they are perfectly happy to try melting the glue on the ipads and ipod touches to get into them, but not try that on the nexus 5. They even specifically sell the "iOpener" (basically an overpriced microwave heatable beanbag thingy) for situations like this. Not trying is what annoyed me.
So I set out to try myself!
I bought a whole front panel assembly with screen.
Now i don't have one of their heated beanbags so i just stuck the whole thing in the oven at a low temperature. 40C pretty much did nothing (as expected) so then i set it at 70C and heated the whole thing until it was toasty (15 mins).
Using a suction cup on the glass did nothing, then i noticed that I could see the back of the screen through the slits which the rear cover clips onto. So i started pushing at it with a plastic spudger, (the ifixit one fits perfectly).
I saw that that glass was coming away from the case, and careful pushing gave me a big enough gap to slip a guitar pick in. pushing at the other slits and running the guitar pick around the screen came off relatively easily.
One thing about the gorilla glass 3, it was pretty flexible, i was seriously concerned that i was going to crack the glass! it seemed to flex more than the sgp glass protectors i used before.
The glue is only around the edge of the screen which made it easier, I was worried that the whole back of the screen would be glued as well, but its just a foam pad.
Popped the back off my nexus 5 and attached the ribbon cable for the now separated screen just to make sure its all working and it is!
So here we are, the front panel is not a "fused flustercluck" as ifixit says, but can be easily separated. Even easier if the screen is damaged so you don't need to worry about keeping the screen in one piece.
ifixit gave the nexus 5 a negative point on this:
The glass and LCD are fused to the display frame. Fixing broken glass will be either expensive or very difficult.
But in all honesty, since the difference for just the glass and screen and the whole front panel (including the screen) is so small, it makes no sense to take the hassle of replacing just the screen, and also since most failures are going to be physical damage resulting from dropping the bezel will likely be damaged too, and just makes more sense to replace the whole thing.
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Dude! Why? Can you please send me some of the cash you've got lying around?
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Damn that looks really cool. Thanks for the information, it's actually very useful.
Pictures are down for me at this time.
But kudos for the effort. Maybe ifixit should see this and revise their teardown.
ldubs said:
Dude! Why? Can you please send me some of the cash you've got lying around?
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LOL
I am actually doing a custom mod on the nexus 5 which requires the screen and front assembly/bezel to be separate.
I managed to find the screen only without the front assembly/bezel but not just the assembly/bezel itself so I went this route of separating it myself.
squeeish said:
Pictures are down for me at this time.
But kudos for the effort. Maybe ifixit should see this and revise their teardown.
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I have updated the links for the photos now, hopefully this site is more reliable!
I wouldn't mind if someone linked this page to ifixit.
The pics with the detached screen still working are priceless.
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LOL
I am actually doing a custom mod on the nexus 5 which requires the screen and front assembly/bezel to be separate.
I managed to find the screen only without the front assembly/bezel but not just the assembly/bezel itself so I went this route of separating it myself.
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When you finish modification share with us the result.
electric0ant said:
LOL
I am actually doing a custom mod on the nexus 5 which requires the screen and front assembly/bezel to be separate.
I managed to find the screen only without the front assembly/bezel but not just the assembly/bezel itself so I went this route of separating it myself.
I have updated the links for the photos now, hopefully this site is more reliable!
I wouldn't mind if someone linked this page to ifixit.
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Wait...what mod?:what:
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Wait...what mod?:what:
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What is this custom mod that you speak of?
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All I can say is that it's quite an ambitious mod (for me anyway).
I will definitely let you guys know once I complete it, but it all depended on me being able to separate the screen from the bezel and that worked, so all lights are green!
I just need to source equipment and parts, but with the holidays coming up It likely won;t be until mid-late jan until I will finish this.

Samsung Galaxy S9 Uneven Oleophobic Coating

The oleophobic coating on the screen of my S9 seems to be incomplete and uneven. I put my palm all over the screen and you can see the distinct boundary where the coating is missing. Is anyone else having this problem?
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It does seem like a manufacturing defect. I would get it changed right away.
I returned mine after a couple of days, the warranty covered it so I'm waiting for a new batch of s9+ to arrive so I can get a new one...
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I returned it to the T-Mo store tonight and they gave me a new one and a shipping label to send back my defective one. The Samsung rep just happened to be in the store at the time and at first he said he'd seen all the weird defects, then when I showed him mine he admitted that was a new one to him, lol.
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I returned mine after a couple of days, the warranty covered it so I'm waiting for a new batch of s9+ to arrive so I can get a new one...
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Did yours have a bad/incomplete coating too?
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Did yours have a bad/incomplete coating too?
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Ooooohhhh it so did... Sadly, I did not make a photo, but it was terrible. Two thick straight lines stretching from the middle of the left bezel all the way down to the middle of the bottom bezel. Not even the front desk of the service point knew what the oleophobic coating was (don't ask), luckily i had some connections so, they acted on it really fast. A funny thing happened after the replacement was approved. No store had it, so I had to wait another week for a new batch of s9+
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Just wanted to give a heads up, I am returning my second S9+ unit, oleophobic issues are even worse on this one!
Check out the video, i posted it on yt. It is in my profile as my personal url, too
https://youtu.be/qtDf53wcgmc
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Just wanted to give a heads up, I am returning my second S9+ unit, oleophobic issues are even worse on this one!
Check out the video, i posted it on yt. It is in my profile as my personal url, too
https://youtu.be/qtDf53wcgmc
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Noticed this too, and just wondering if you ever got one that never got this problem? As you say/imply in your YouTube comment, it's actually not obvious at all in real-world use - the coating seems to only be affected on the sides and not the actual screen. However, I'm wondering whether the coating will continue "peeling" into the actual screen over time?
Those who got the units with this issue, where was your phone made?
The quick way to do is to download this app from play store. All the info will be on first page itself.
App Link : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo&hl=en
I have seen this happen on other phones, couple of moto phones, one xiaomi phone. Never on Samsung. But because it has happened to me in past, I always check it on every new phone as one of the items on checklist. That is unacceptable defect. I wonder if this is coming from one specific factory or totally random issue. Thankfully, my unit is perfect.
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The oleophobic coating on the screen of my S9 seems to be incomplete and uneven. I put my palm all over the screen and you can see the distinct boundary where the coating is missing. Is anyone else having this problem?
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Washed it with soap or had it in water with chlorine? Like a pool, if so... that's getting rid of your coating.
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Those who got the units with this issue, where was your phone made?
The quick way to do is to download this app from play store. All the info will be on first page itself.
App Link : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo&hl=en
I have seen this happen on other phones, couple of moto phones, one xiaomi phone. Never on Samsung. But because it has happened to me in past, I always check it on every new phone as one of the items on checklist. That is unacceptable defect. I wonder if this is coming from one specific factory or totally random issue. Thankfully, my unit is perfect.
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For me, I'm pretty sure it wasn't there when it was brand new, but who knows. It's actually really hard to see in most lighting conditions, and even then, it's only noticeable if you're actively looking for it. And even if it's present, for it to show up more obviously, you really need to rub some oil/water/fingerprint on those specific areas for it to show up more clearly. I'm sure most people have this to some extent, but >90% of people wouldn't notice it.
My phone doesn't have it, tried to return it but they said "Samsung Galaxy S9 isn't supposed to have it". Have I been tricked???
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For me, I'm pretty sure it wasn't there when it was brand new, but who knows. It's actually really hard to see in most lighting conditions, and even then, it's only noticeable if you're actively looking for it. And even if it's present, for it to show up more obviously, you really need to rub some oil/water/fingerprint on those specific areas for it to show up more clearly. I'm sure most people have this to some extent, but >90% of people wouldn't notice it.
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You will only notice it when you get some skin oil or fingerprints on the screen.
I have had this happen on my 2 previous phones. Moto X and Mi 4i. Here is the picture i quickly found in my google photos.
As you can see, the oleophobic coating is missing from the middle part of the screen. This is a defect. It probably happened because some sheet of plastic flew and got stuck on the top glass in factory when the screen underwent the oleophobic coating process or some chemical spilled on the screen in factory and this went unnoticed during QC as it will be hard to detect this without actually touching screen with bare hands. (WIth some skin oil )
At the end of the day, this is unacceptable defect if you have it. The oleophobic coating is sensitive to heat and chlorinated water, but chlorinated water will take long time and multiple exposures to it to cause this damage. It wont happen with single dip in chlorinated water.
My suggestion is to get your phones replaced or at least screen replaced under warranty if you are out of return period.
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You will only notice it when you get some skin oil or fingerprints on the screen.
I have had this happen on my 2 previous phones. Moto X and Mi 4i. Here is the picture i quickly found in my google photos.
As you can see, the oleophobic coating is missing from the middle part of the screen. This is a defect. It probably happened because some sheet of plastic flew and got stuck on the top glass in factory when the screen underwent the oleophobic coating process or some chemical spilled on the screen in factory and this went unnoticed during QC as it will be hard to detect this without actually touching screen with bare hands. (WIth some skin oil )
At the end of the day, this is unacceptable defect if you have it. The oleophobic coating is sensitive to heat and chlorinated water, but chlorinated water will take long time and multiple exposures to it to cause this damage. It wont happen with single dip in chlorinated water.
My suggestion is to get your phones replaced or at least screen replaced under warranty if you are out of return period.
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The original poster (I think) and I only notice this on the sides of the phone (where it curves), and not on the actual part of the screen where pixels light up. I've seen one person replace his S9 several times (and even got the store manager I think to open like 5-6 phones at a store) and all of them had it to some extent. Because it's only at the sides, a lot of cases would actually (mostly) cover this up, so again, it explains why most people wouldn't notice it.
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Noticed this too, and just wondering if you ever got one that never got this problem? As you say/imply in your YouTube comment, it's actually not obvious at all in real-world use - the coating seems to only be affected on the sides and not the actual screen. However, I'm wondering whether the coating will continue "peeling" into the actual screen over time?
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The third one is ok for now. But hey, now I hate Samsung anyway, so this pretty much no longer matters. I am waiting for smudges to keep sticking and will return this one at some point, I'd say... Btw, this one was made in Vietnam.
miodrag.cutura said:
The third one is ok for now. But hey, now I hate Samsung anyway, so this pretty much no longer matters. I am waiting for smudges to keep sticking and will return this one at some point, I'd say... Btw, this one was made in Vietnam.
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Thanks for the feedback. I think we're some of the unlucky ones, otherwise we'd hear more about this oleophobic issue - not many posts on it? I'm not getting mine exchanged, as this is purely cosmetic (and rather minor), and I'd probably run the risk of coming across another "defect", if not the same one. The rest of the phone is functioning very well for me. And that's the keyword - it's actually "functioning" well, which is all that really matters when push comes to shove.
How do you mean you're "waiting for smudges to keep sticking"?
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Thanks for the feedback. I think we're some of the unlucky ones, otherwise we'd hear more about this oleophobic issue - not many posts on it? I'm not getting mine exchanged, as this is purely cosmetic (and rather minor), and I'd probably run the risk of coming across another "defect", if not the same one. The rest of the phone is functioning very well for me. And that's the keyword - it's actually "functioning" well, which is all that really matters when push comes to shove.
How do you mean you're "waiting for smudges to keep sticking"?
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Definitely should've written 'waiting for the smudges to stick' Because that's basically what happens when the oleophobic coating is messed up. They stick really hard to the glass and it is much more difficult to clean it up.
So if your screen shows residue from normal use, it would qualify for a warranty exchange? That seems a bit unrealistic when many other factors come into play. Use of skin lotion, body sweat are couple first thought of. My whole screen shows signs of use, and has since day one. It's never been exposed to chlorine or any other chemical.
Hi guys, try this out for checking. Tried mine and noticed I still have an even coating. My device is made from Vietnam.
I never thought I'd say this, but I'm almost glad my phone was made in China.

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