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Whose camera cannot Touch->FOCUS ?

Dear fellas,
Although this topic has been briefly discussed in various locations, it hasn't gotten "big" enough.
I know a number of ya guys are having this problem. The touch-sensitive action button used to focus does not focus the camera (and yes, I have set it to "touch & press").
Mine works intermittently, in fact, doesn't work most of the time. I know it's 100% not a hardware problem, as the button lights up and brightens up my screen according to normal behavior. Now I'm wondering, for those guys who don't have this problem, do U have a different version of the camera app?
K.. mine's the stock HK 1.93.831 ROM and my cam app is version 6.00 (build 31516).
I'm not sure what causes this problem. Although I'm not a camera freak, but this prob makes my baby "imperfect".
Pls post yr ROM and camera version (I wonder if there's a difference) and state if youre experiencing this problem. Thanks!

Hi MasK,
I'm having the same problem as you, the "touch & press" feature didn't work most of the time.
I'm using HTC SG ROM 1.37.871.3, camera version 6.0 (Build 31364).

I used to think the camera didn't focus properly until I took some time to play with it. It's pretty slow, but mine seems to work. When I touch the button, it will take anywhere from 1-5 seconds to focus, and then the cross-hair turns green and beeps to indicate focus lock. At first I didn't realize I needed to wait for the beep, so my shots were out of focus. Seems to work fine now that I know that.
I'm currently on stock 1.37.401.3 with camera 6.0 Build 31364 ... same as previous post, just a different ROM region, which I doubt makes a difference.

i have a similar problem where i run the camera app, then the 1st time i place my thumb over the button nothing happens, but if i take my thumb away and try again it will work fine.
It will continue working fine untill i restart the camera app, just never registers the 1st attempt.

This does show that there is some serious prob with this functionality. For me, it's the first time that has a higher chance of working.. not subsequently.
How abt the rest? We needa find out what's causing this!

upz...
Anymore ppl having this prob?

Same here. Most of the time, including 1st time also fails.

+1, most of the time I have to click on the button to do the focus + photo. When I just touch, the camera tries to focus but the square doesn't become green. Sometimes there's no white square at all.

Hi,
mine recognizes the first touch so it focuses correctly but after i take the picture, it doesn't focus anymore when i touch it. actually i just found out about this focus thing and tested. until now i always just pressed the button when trying to make pictures and it always makes a focus and then capture the image. is this OK or it makes them better if i first let him focus and then press the button all the way?
p.s. i do have "touch and press" selected.
p.s.2: is there any way i can change exposure time or something like that so my pictures won't get blurry when my hand shakes or something? many of my pictures are fuzzy because i don't really have a steady hand :-s
Best regards,
Florin

GeckoDev said:
I used to think the camera didn't focus properly until I took some time to play with it. It's pretty slow, but mine seems to work. When I touch the button, it will take anywhere from 1-5 seconds to focus, and then the cross-hair turns green and beeps to indicate focus lock. At first I didn't realize I needed to wait for the beep, so my shots were out of focus. Seems to work fine now that I know that.
I'm currently on stock 1.37.401.3 with camera 6.0 Build 31364 ... same as previous post, just a different ROM region, which I doubt makes a difference.
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Yep that's how it works and I don't seem to be having problems, just tried doind a few shots and it works perfectly.
Everytime I touch the center button the white square appears and the camera does the autofocus until it turns green. Then I change the orientation and do the same again. I just did it 6 times in a row and the autofocus worked perfectly all the times.

I had this problem with all my previous ROMs.. I am now on Bepe's 0.96 which has the latest camera app and the problem is no longer there - I can touch and press to activate the autofocus as many times as I want after shooting as many photos as I want. No problems now.

Huey85 said:
I had this problem with all my previous ROMs.. I am now on Bepe's 0.96 which has the latest camera app and the problem is no longer there - I can touch and press to activate the autofocus as many times as I want after shooting as many photos as I want. No problems now.
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Cool.. so it goes to show it's a pure firmware issue. I'm wondering perhaps it's due to registry tweakings that creates this problem.
Any more feedbacks?

Is there a difference in quality if it makes the focus on touch and picture on press versus focus and picture on press?

cannabis23 said:
Is there a difference in quality if it makes the focus on touch and picture on press versus focus and picture on press?
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No difference in quality, however with the "touch-then-press" focus you see a focused picture on the display before taking the shot.

Mask,
Can you tell me what is the camera app version in Bepe's 0.96 Rom?

I just changed the camera capture setting to "press" rather then "touch and press".
Now all I have to do is point at what i want. Then just press the button down and it does all the auto focussing itself and then takes the pic.
Couldn't be easier.

Roy_Drage said:
I just changed the camera capture setting to "press" rather then "touch and press".
Now all I have to do is point at what i want. Then just press the button down and it does all the auto focussing itself and then takes the pic.
Couldn't be easier.
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I actually prefer the 'touch and press' option, because I might end up needing to re-adjust my position before taking the shot.. and having the 'touch' to autofocus, before 'press' to shoot allows me to do so.
@MasK: I don't think it's a firmware issue or related to registry tweaks, but more a issue related to the camera app - bepe noted that it was a newer version (thus you won't see the Resolution icon in the Settings anymore - you can still change the resolution via Advanced settings). You could ask bepe more about the camera app and whether he did any tweaking in regards to the camera.

Huey85 said:
I actually prefer the 'touch and press' option, because I might end up needing to re-adjust my position before taking the shot.. and having the 'touch' to autofocus, before 'press' to shoot allows me to do so.
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Yeah I know what your saying, I tend to just point n click, let it auto-focus once clicked and take the pic. As long as I'm pointing at what I want and I'm as far zoomed in as I choose then it's fine. I'll take a load at a time and then just delete the unwanted ones later.
But none the less I think the general point is that everything should work!

Roy_Drage said:
..But none the less I think the general point is that everything should work!
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Quite right. I do not see why HTC overlooked this problem. Seems to me that HTC rushed the release of the Diamond without going through more intense test phases.

Huey85 said:
Quite right. I do not see why HTC overlooked this problem. Seems to me that HTC rushed the release of the Diamond without going through more intense test phases.
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Completely agree, it's plain to see now that the phone was rushed. I know for a fact that if I hadn't found this site and wasn't able to flash the thing with new ROMS and applications etc then I probably wouldn't of bought it.
In effect this site is doing the work that HTC should of done in the 1st place. We shouldn't be finding ways around their problems by simply saying "oh doing it this way doesn't bother me". It would of been nice to have the thing working smoothly from release.
But then again this is half the fun right? Mucking around with new ROMs and apps to set it up how each individiual likes.
I know that I would feel sorry for anyone with a brand new HTC Touch Diamond that is still at factory settings!
The one I am running now pisses on the phone it was 2 weeks ago

Camera problems and one little hint

As we all know, our Droid 3 camera seems to have a problem with blue tinted shots, also taking photos can sometimes take veeeery long. We are all waiting for an update.
I found out, that you can take photos with the "ok" button on the keyboard, especially long-pressing this button forces the camera to focus correctly, this makes it much more easy to take macro-photos.
What do you think?

The first time I tried it I got a FC, but it seems to be a little bit more stable using the OK button. Thanks for the tip!

Good to hear, you're welcome.

Thanks - trick works on XT860 4G (the Canadian variant). I can't get it to focus with long press (still takes a pic), but I guess this is due to continuous autofocus it does (I believe I enabled such thing somewhere in settings).
I wish they had the camera button left on the phone though.. Or maybe since camera takes crappy pics, they decided it is not worth placing button for it

Rotkaeqpchen said:
As we all know, our Droid 3 camera seems to have a problem with blue tinted shots, also taking photos can sometimes take veeeery long. We are all waiting for an update.
I found out, that you can take photos with the "ok" button on the keyboard, especially long-pressing this button forces the camera to focus correctly, this makes it much more easy to take macro-photos.
What do you think?
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works for me. interesting find. none of the other key combinations do anything, so it must have something to do with button focus in the app. the arrow keys didn't seem to change the focus, so that's a plus.
now if only there were a way to get the app to open faster. i wonder if you can force it into cached memory somehow.

Anyone else having a problem where they take a photo, and then it goes to the upper left to indicate that it was saved, but then when you go to retrieve the photo later its no longer there?

@ jediman
Haven't experienced this, did you change your storage location for the camera to sd card? If you have been doing some adb or plugging into computer the phone might need a restart to get proper access to the card again.
-smc

The camera has a poor quality, i am not happy with it. I wish i wouldn't have rooted so quikly, waiting for unroot to return phone. I was happy with my Dinc and might just get the Dinc 2.

You bought the phone for its camera??

I just use camera 360. The blue tint issue doesn't happen with flash like it does with stock camera app. Only thing about camera 360 is no ffc support yet.
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Darksurf said:
I just use camera 360. The blue tint issue doesn't happen with flash like it does with stock camera app. Only thing about camera 360 is no ffc support yet.
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as much as i like some of c360's features, there's alot that drives me not to use it. the "widescreen" mode stretches the image, you can't review that last pic taken (that i can tell), there's no video option and it appears at the top of the list in battery usage (92%!).

I've been using Camera ZOOM FX... it seems to take fairly decent photos, and is much faster than the normal camera app that comes with the phone.

Camera Responsiveness?

so It's my understanding the camera takes about a second to wake up..
How great is it at taking pictures of things in motion? I'm not asking for anything incredibly unrealistic but, I know that my captivate tends to have problems if something is moving or it's not a still shot which can be a little annoying..

So far I've had my T for a week and the camera is one of my biggest grievences.
It takes about a second for the screen to boot into the camera mode but then takes ages (sometimes 5-6 seconds) to focus properly before it takes the shot!!
It may just be that I need to tweak the settings but a feature that is boasted like this one you would think would work out of the box.
I'll post back after I've had another play.

Focussing takes longer if the light is low. The camera should focus pretty quick in the day time. Once my S3 comes back from surgery I'll compare if the speed of this camera bothers me. It hasn't yet, though.
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I have the S3.. The camera on it is much better than the xperia T on pretty much everything responsiveness \ motion capture \ night - low light conditions. Maybe its the xperia app that lacks something dont know..
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I find the camera focus to be a bit of a nuisance too but I find if I type on the screen where to focus the image it will sort itself out in maybe 2 seconds tops ready to snap the picture. It could be down to light conditions but my experiences with the cameras been okay.

From what I was expecting from Sony's advertising the camera is a let down. The app is nice to use and I love having the dedicated button. However focusing seems to be a bit hit or miss. Certainly compared to my old OneX. Hoping that it'll be improved with some software updates as the hardware should be quite decent?
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I've been using the Xperia GX for 2 months now since it launched in the summer but it should be similiar to the T/TX (well, exactly the same as the TX)
Waking up / Firing up the camera quickly
If the camera process is not running it will take 5-6 seconds to start up.
If it is running, then it is much faster. When it is running in the background it does not consume a lot of resources (in particular it doesn't really impact battery life since that is the single worst part of the GX/TX)
Be sure to check your camera settings as well for the "Quick Launch" settings.
This has been seen on several Xperia devices but here's briefly how it works.
When the phone is asleep, you hold down the camera button. It takes about a half second for recognize the long press then will fire up and take the shot in less than another half second. You can change your setting to choose whether it does nothing, fires up the camera, or fires up the camera plus takes the shot.
If you use a screen unlock pattern, you will still take the photo and subsequent photos but you cannot go to view/share/etc the photo until completing the unlock. This is to both give you security while not stopping you from quickly taking photos.
Pictures of things in motion
I was surprised that it takes pictures very quickly with little shutter lag. The day after I got the phone, I went to climb Mount Fuji and was surprised I could take clear photos of the foliage whizzing by outside the bus window.
That being said, that only really works in well lit conditions.
In well lit conditions, it can focus quickly 150-400ms but like others have said, this is not the case in low light (or when the device starts to overheat or when bogged down with apps running and demanding wakelock).
If you use the quick capture feature, it will guess the focus and take the shot.

Macflurry said:
So far I've had my T for a week and the camera is one of my biggest grievences.
It takes about a second for the screen to boot into the camera mode but then takes ages (sometimes 5-6 seconds) to focus properly before it takes the shot!!
It may just be that I need to tweak the settings but a feature that is boasted like this one you would think would work out of the box.
I'll post back after I've had another play.
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By default, its set to face recognition and thats what delays it. Change the settings on the camera app and you would see the full glory of it

really? in the shops i was hands on-ing with the xperia t , and whenever i tapped the big capture button it would instantly capture even if i clicked many times , like a burst shot.. so does my old phone ray but it laggs a bit

shahulvm said:
By default, its set to face recognition and thats what delays it. Change the settings on the camera app and you would see the full glory of it
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Change focus to infinite?

[Q] The best camera software alternatives?

I have been suffering the camera on the Xperia T for too long now, with its slow shutter time, constant blurry pictures and the over the top compression just destroying the photos I take.
I am in the hunt for a fix. It looks like Sony wont be fixing it so I was wondering how people have got on with alternatives. I just randomly picked Camera MX out of the bunch available and with whacking all the settings up I was very happy with all the results. I even managed to get a decent photo out of the quick capture mode it come with I have never once managed that with the Sony camera software. This shows me that the XperiaT is hampered on software level not a hardware level.
What are other peoples experiences with alternatives?

IMHO sony stock camera is the best there is.
I have never had a problem with it.

Try vignette, Love this app
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Yeah I'm the same never had a problem, with mine, are you sure that maybe you don't have a faulty unit mate.
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That's weird. This phone has one of the most sensitive cameras ive used. But if you are into 3rd party apps, try Camera360 or CameraFx

hi dude...try snap camera...

@gregbradley
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Guys do you use the hardware button or the touchscreen? Starting to wonder if the process of my pressing the hardware button is what is causing most of my issues. Might try for the weekend just using the onscreen capture button/touch capture settings. I just notice there is some delay in taking the photo once pressing the hardware button.
I have managed to capture some killer photos with my T just getting fed up of having to take about 5 consecutive pictures to get one decent blurry one.

I find that I sometimes get motion blur when using the camera hardware button in low light due to a slight moving of the camera when pressing the button. This can happen to me even when being very careful. I have found that using the onscreen button results in considerably less accidental movement since the shutter snaps when removing the finger from the screen button. BTW, this allows you to focus, re-compose, and snap just like the physical button does.
IMO, I think the best use of the physical button is launching the camera from sleep, not taking pictures.

Note 9 camera buzzing vibrating on 2x zoom

I just noticed recently my Note9 buzzes and vibrates when I use the 2x zoom. It does focus fine though. Anyone else has experienced this?
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Yes
Mines doing it too. Did you figure out why ? The picture gets wavy too when zooming.

so its continuously buzzing when zoomed in or only when zooming for the small amount a time when switching to 2x

Didnt figure out why it does this. I even tried a complete factory reset. I will send it in for repair. It gets wavy and fuzzy if i try to focus and there is a bright lihht source in the frame. It buzzs and vibrates when it is trying to focus. It stops when it manages to focus properly.
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otacon888 said:
Didnt figure out why it does this. I even tried a complete factory reset. I will send it in for repair. It gets wavy and fuzzy if i try to focus and there is a bright lihht source in the frame. It buzzs and vibrates when it is trying to focus. It stops when it manages to focus properly.
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Yeah that doesn't sound right. I've got the N960F too and zoom works fine in all modes that support it.

My guess is the aperture is freaking out. When changing aperture manually, you can just barely hear and feel a tiny click. It something was wrong with it, it might be rapidly changing apertures causing the buzzing maybe?

I just tried and listened in a silent room and I hear nothing.

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I just tried and listened in a silent room and I hear nothing.
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Put it right up to your ear and you might be able to hear it when switching. It's really quiet.

otacon888 said:
Didnt figure out why it does this. I even tried a complete factory reset. I will send it in for repair. It gets wavy and fuzzy if i try to focus and there is a bright lihht source in the frame. It buzzs and vibrates when it is trying to focus. It stops when it manages to focus properly.
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Yep that happened on my Galaxy S2 after 2 years of use. Trying to focus but buzzes until it locks in...sounds like a hardware issue. My note 8 is fine.

I just tested this and there's no sound when using 2x zoom in auto mode.

Mine is doing this too. I find if i shake the phone it will stop vibrating. It sounds like something getting jammed. I have this phone with T-Mobile and i have the jump plan. Should i send this to them to fix or replace? Or should I contact Samsung? I don't want to have to pay for anything if its a hardware defect on a phone I've never dropped. So its not damaged from me.

I have this problem from the beginning- 1 week. Now i have the new update but the problem is still there.
When the 2x zoom lens try to focus, it makes vibrations and weird noises, and it can't focus... on sammobile someone has the same problem, i think it's a bigger problem.
Should i call the "samsung guard n9" and get a new one?

I've just had the new firmware update which was mostly camera related features, and now on 2X I'm getting this buzzing. What the heck is going on? A quick search on Google reveals a lot of people seem to be experiencing the same...

jonboyuk said:
I've just had the new firmware update which was mostly camera related features, and now on 2X I'm getting this buzzing. What the heck is going on? A quick search on Google reveals a lot of people seem to be experiencing the same...
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Your camera is switching and focusing to x2 normal as it should, right? The only thing you notice is the sound that comes from the module when switching? If so, your camera is fine. Even my s7e have sound from the OIS like clicking... working 2.5 years later like a champ and a lot of users reported it. Guess it's something similar here. If the camera module is broken, it will not focus and/or lead to other noticeable problems. If the sounds is too intrusive for you, you can send the phone for a repair/inspection.

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Your camera is switching and focusing to x2 normal as it should, right? The only thing you notice is the sound that comes from the module when switching? If so, your camera is fine. Even my s7e have sound from the OIS like clicking... working 2.5 years later like a champ and a lot of users reported it. Guess it's something similar here. If the camera module is broken, it will not focus and/or lead to other noticeable problems. If the sounds is too intrusive for you, you can send the phone for a repair/inspection.
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No no, it's worse than that. When I switch to x2, when it's working normally it focuses and then it's fine. However, now it's failing to focus, the image is blurry and wavy and the device is physically buzzing (very gently but clearly attempting to do something mechanical and failing). Switching back to x1, it stops buzzing and focuses again.

jonboyuk said:
No no, it's worse than that. When I switch to x2, when it's working normally it focuses and then it's fine. However, now it's failing to focus, the image is blurry and wavy and the device is physically buzzing (very gently but clearly attempting to do something mechanical and failing). Switching back to x1, it stops buzzing and focuses again.
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The camera module is failing (you just described what was common camera module failing on HTC M8 back in the days, had a friend with it also), this can't be fixed via software, sadly it's for a service repair.

jonboyuk said:
No no, it's worse than that. When I switch to x2, when it's working normally it focuses and then it's fine. However, now it's failing to focus, the image is blurry and wavy and the device is physically buzzing (very gently but clearly attempting to do something mechanical and failing). Switching back to x1, it stops buzzing and focuses again.
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If you pinch to zoom while in camera mode does the zooming in appear wavey and stuttering? Someone else showed a video of this and it was a faulty camera apparently.
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Give mi 5 minutes i will post a YT link with my "buzzing".
https://youtu.be/YOmI_WbZQyM
Here you have it. I know- ****y quality, but you can see what the problem looks like.
Samsung call service said, that they hear about this problem first time. I can give it to the service but the door-to-door 1 day service dosn't work, becouse they think noting is broken...

boku95 said:
Give mi 5 minutes i will post a YT link with my "buzzing".
https://youtu.be/YOmI_WbZQyM
Here you have it. I know- ****y quality, but you can see what the problem looks like.
Samsung call service said, that they hear about this problem first time. I can give it to the service but the door-to-door 1 day service dosn't work, becouse they think noting is broken...
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They are mistaken...it's an old issue that even affected my Galaxy S2...something gets loose and it has trouble focusing right (hence the noise). At first it works anyways, but over time it can degrade further. Hardware issue...would get it fixed if under warranty.

otacon888 said:
I just noticed recently my Note9 buzzes and vibrates when I use the 2x zoom. It does focus fine though. Anyone else has experienced this?
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Mine has this issue as well. by any chance do mount ur note9 onto a bike or a motorcycle?