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So, after thinking about jumping off the iPhone bandwagon i've decided to jump on to the HD7 bandwagon.
Just bought it today from eBay and will be recieving it in the next couple of days.
I've never used cases before on my phones, mainly because i think they make the phone look ugly plus they make the phones bigger and the iPhone 4 was no different - and i've dropped it multiple times and there is not a single mark on it...
But i'm not sure about the HD7 - it does look a little fragile. Screen protectors i hate with a passion (mainly because i can never put them on properly )
So, is it worth getting a case for this phone or is it OK to leave it naked?
Ta muchly,
Casdawer.
I've had mine for several months now. No screen or case protecting it.
Nary a scratch or scuff on mine. If you were able to keep your iPhone scratch-free, you shouldn't have an issue. It's not at all fragile, imo. I've even dropped it a few times from a few feet and suffered no damage.
jimbonics said:
I've had mine for several months now. No screen or case protecting it.
Nary a scratch or scuff on mine. If you were able to keep your iPhone scratch-free, you shouldn't have an issue. It's not at all fragile, imo. I've even dropped it a few times from a few feet and suffered no damage.
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I beg to differ on this. I NOW use a case (Otterbox Commuter) on my HD7 as I dropped mine on the asphalt in my parking lot and only from about a foot or so up (I was bent over) and it damaged 2 of the corners on my device (not the screen THANK GOD). I recommend that you use some type of case be it a soft gel or a hard shell just to be safe.
As for screen protectors... Spend the couple extra bucks and get someone who knows how to put it on do it for you and get a QUALITY one like Ghost Armor, etc and not just the cheap kind. You will be glad you did.
I was thinking this case...
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/case-mate-barely-there-case-htc-hd7-black-p26609.htm
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I was thinking this case...
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/case-mate-barely-there-case-htc-hd7-black-p26609.htm
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+1. Best case. Had one for my iPhone 4 as well.
Just to put my 2p in. I've had the Official HD7 Leather Case since the day i bought it and it's certainly done the trick.
The stitching on the edges and corners of the case absorb the impact if you drop it from too far (i've dropped mine 2 or 3 times from waist height with luckily no damage or scratches to the phone)
i got my HD7 a couple days ago, and I had to get a case right away. The power/standby button on the top on my phone is really bad (been hearing from others theirs is pretty flush with the phone as well) so i got a case from t-mobile with a button on the top. case covers everything except ports and screen.
also went into the mall and had a ZAGG invisibleshield installed by one of their sales reps, which was great they put it on perfectly which i probably wouldnt have done.
trust me when you have your phone protected its a big weight off your mind since the phone did cost quite a pretty penny
I don't use a case on my HD7. But I don't drop phones, nor do I put them in my pocket along with my keys. If I put it in a bag along with anything that's not soft, then I will pop it into the official case, but that's very rare.
Common sense really. Neither the phone's body nor its glass screen have any scratches. And it's 6 months old.
Dropping a phone isn't really a lack of common sense is it
**** happens, people drop phones. It's good to have a case on when that day happens.
If you've never dropped any device then i solute you.
the only problem i have is the paint or what ever it is is starting to chip on the kickstand on mine, not a problem the undercoat of meal looks the same
HD7 is a master piece of technology that really need good cares and attention...however it reminds me my old unbreakable nokia 6600.
By accident (i precise it...if mental stability matters , it has survived from many stunts like climbing a wall from the top to the ground and diving few seconds in the cat's drinking fountain (a screwdriver and 2 hours of hair dryer)...
From that day i bought a soft silicone case which covers everything that don't need to be seen or plugged or take pictures (not like the one Blue1k linked...buttons are visible, and by the way it's not an hd7 device), with that smooth black case my hd7 isn't really bigger, those crappy noisy moving buttons are covered and 100% efficient (even the camera one which need to be half-pressed for the automatic focus)...i recommend it.
The screen protection should be present from day one when you open your so expected new phone, scratches are ugly, aren't they?
i like my HD 7 to be without case but it slips.... so i bought a clip on case and a silicon case...
matt screen protactor is a must for me as the screen gets so much finget prints all over and my son leaves food prints...
i dont like the silicon case as it makes it look fat so i am using the clip on case all this while...
dropping your phone has notthing to do with common sense... unless u are a control freeeeek then it maybe common sense....
i dont carry bags, my note book is in a case and get dumped in my car when i have to go, same for my phone, in my pocket all the time, some times in my back pocket of the jeans... to me phone is a tool and all the time its abused...
my phone do not last more then a year...
Just ordered this one -
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/silicone-case-for-htc-hd7-black-p26570.htm
Thought i'd start basic and see how it goes.
i just bought myself a otterbox case from bell, which i got for $35. Doesn't add too much bulk to the phone. I noticed that on mine, the metal coating has started to peel off around the edges. So i decided i can lose a little aesthetics for over all benefit of the device.
I got a screen protector too, but got lint underneath it and it iriitated me, so ripped it off, but the glass is gorilla glass anyway if i am not mistaken, so it should be ok unless you put it with keys and such.
saketh321 said:
the glass is gorilla glass anyway if i am not mistaken
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HD7 has gorilla glass?
tai4de2 said:
HD7 has gorilla glass?
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You wish. No way dude, it does not have Gorilla glass. The guy you quoted was WRONG.
VizagDude said:
You wish. No way dude, it does not have Gorilla glass. The guy you quoted was WRONG.
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From Gorillaglass website
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Corning® Gorilla® Glass is used by more than 30 major brands and has been designed into more than 350 product models. Today there are more than 200 million devices with Gorilla Glass being used by consumers around the world. Due to customer agreements, we cannot identify all devices that feature Gorilla Glass. Your favorite device may include Gorilla Glass, even if you don't see it listed. Ask your manufacturer or retailer to learn more.
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VizagDude said:
You wish. No way dude, it does not have Gorilla glass. The guy you quoted was WRONG.
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i recommend you double check your facts about your phone before calling someone wrong
tai4de2 said:
HD7 has gorilla glass?
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yep, why do you think even when you obsessively wipe down your screen every 5 minutes it doesnt even leave a little surface scratch? Ok maybe that is just me lol
saketh321 said:
yep, why do you think even when you obsessively wipe down your screen every 5 minutes it doesnt even leave a little surface scratch? Ok maybe that is just me lol
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thanks dude... i will try my phone without a screen protactor when my current screen protactor wearoff..
Hello. I bought a galaxy note on 28th november. After only 2 weeks of absolutely normal and careful use, my screen is scratched and broken. Ok, it is a small crack, but it is not good.
It never fell and it never hit anything. After only 2 days, i noticed some scratchs and some other came in the days after. Then, the part of the screen between the upper edge and the speaker broke in two, with a crack (small, 5mm but still a crack) going from the edge to the speaker. I can't post a photo as i sent it back to samsung for repairs (it had also display issues). Do you know a reason for it? It should be gorilla glass, and i only kept it in my pockets without anything inside apart the smartphone. Do you think samsung will repair it since it happened during normal use after ONLY 2 weeks? I'm really annoyed and disappointed.
Anyone experiencing glass resistance issues?
Thanks
Call samsung and send it in they will fix it..
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Yes, i did it and i'm waiting, and i also adressed the lines issue and the green/banded screen, but i am in italy and i'm not sure if it is covered by warranty, it should: they can say i broke it.
The Corning Gorilla Glass was one reason I went with the SGS2.
The other reason was fear of provoking the wrath of God for having such a sensationally beautiful device (the Note). It's an awesome device, really.
But God smote those who worshiped a golden calf, too.
lol Sorry, I'm not really a religious fanatic. But yeah, sucks about your screen. Hope Sammy fixes that one up for you.
Welcome Nickelsilver and please don't take this personally and in NO way I'm defending Samsung or the Note but I have to say the neither scratches or dents/cracks come by their own.
They just don't happen/appear magically by themselves on the phone's screen/body. Maybe someone is messing with you Note without you knowing it?
E.g: I have 1mm small and barely noticeable scratch on the top left corner which I suspect it came from the ONLY 1 time my Note slipped from the passenger's seat and fell in the gap between the passenger's door/seat.
I went through 3 screens on my dell streak. Now that I have the note which is even bigger I was so cautious I treated it like a delicate fragile little flower. Needless to say after 2 weeks I noticed what appeared to be a scratch going up from the bottom middle halfway up. Turns out this is not a magical scratch that sprang out of nowhere but an actual crack on the outer glass screen. I have never dropped it but perhaps it was somehow flexed.
No warranty of course. I have ordered the glass itself from overseas and when it gets here in a month I suppose I will try replacing that piece individually as its only the outer glass that seems cracked. Hopefully they do not glue the screens together like they did in the streak ><
Another boring witch hunt thread (yawn)
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Another boring witch hunt thread (yawn)
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To OP: im sorry to hear that....hope samsung can fix it for you quick.
Ps. Dont listen and worry about this guy...he thinks only his opinions are important and others experiences are just JUNKS and BORING! Not sure why he would even bother to reply, if they really bores him that much. Maybe he really thinks that he BOOFY the witch hunter or something
Plus.. He forgot that he has also once posted a question regarding to his screen problem too here on the forum.
Gorilla glass is bull****. I had dell 5 streak, and I changed the screen more than 5 times. Little drop will result in screen loss. Do not depend on gorilla glass.
My Samsung Galaxy Note are broke
Yesterday I was knocked out of the hands under my 40 days old Samsung Galaxy Note, the cover glass is cracked along its entire length as a spider's web, while the LCD screen is not damaged, that still works, receiving the touch command. The solution I found in the orders of the new protective glass over eBay. Maybe that was too much angry because it happened to me, but NOTE is too amazing, and I somehow survive.. I'll let it be when we come new safety glass
I do not think this is a witch hunt. More of an informative thread on one weakness to an otherwise amazing device. It may be that until an indestructive clear glass is created that we will continually face this on any large phone. Anything this large will flex easily and likely crack. One thing Samsung definately did right was not glue the glass to the LCD behind it. I put a clear screen cover over mine and you cant even see the crack anymore. Were this a dell streak you would have half of your screen blacked out.
This is definitely the best mobile device out there in my opinion, people should just be extremely cautious with where they carry it. Mine most likely cracked in my pocket from slight flexing.
The glass on the note shouldn't break even when flexed unless it's not Gorilla glass.
Gorilla glass is not only scratch resistant,it is also shatter resistant.
If the glass is breaking frequently on the notes,then I wonder if they really have Gorilla glass.
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The glass on the note shouldn't break even when flexed unless it's not Gorilla glass.
Gorilla glass is not only scratch resistant,it is also shatter resistant.
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Not proof.
Croak said:
Not proof.
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I know this is not 100% proof but look at this demonstration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYaQnvVwStc&feature=player_embedded#!
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I know this is not 100% proof but look at this demonstration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYaQnvVwStc&feature=player_embedded#!
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That demonstration glass at the beginning of the video is about 3 times thicker than what Samsung uses on the Note/Galaxy S2/Galaxy S SAMOLED panels. And it's quite a bit smaller, height/width wise (it's about iPhone 4 sized).
Thickness makes a significant difference in flexibility and shatter resistance. Which is off on a tangent, because the main reason Samsung and others uses GG and similar techniques is not for shatter resistance.
It's almost entirely for the combination of higher scratch resistance vs metals (all bets are off with sand particles) and a better tactile feel (it's smoother) than non-treated glass.
Sure it may not be as thick on the note but you are never going to flex the phone anywhere as much as that demonstration.
My point is that if it is gorilla glass,it shouldn't be that easy to crack the screen given the abuse that it is supposed to be able to take.
All these? Gorilla Glass
And all these? Gorilla Glass
How about all these? Gorilla Glass
Or maybe all these? Gorilla Glass
It's been 10 days since i bought "the Note". I dropped the device just once from 1 meter height. It was a free fall with not much impact power. The screen has a crack on the upper right corner. I know every product is meant to last but so easy , so fast ! ??? Thankfully it still works with no functional issues. It's just the protective glass on top of the actual LCD that is broken. But u can still feel it while wiping your finger and it is appearent...
Hardware wise The Note is simply outragous but when it comes to software and durability it can't even come closer to what i used to find on HTC devices
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It's been 10 days since i bought "the Note". I dropped the device just once from 1 meter height. It was a free fall with not much impact power. The screen has a crack on the upper right corner. I know every product is meant to last but so easy , so fast ! ??? Thankfully it still works with no functional issues. It's just the protective glass on top of the actual LCD that is broken. But u can still feel it while wiping your finger and it is appearent...
Hardware wise The Note is simply outragous but when it comes to software and durability it can't even come closer to what i used to find on HTC devices
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The weight of the note will count against it during falls compared to say a very light phone like the SG2.Impact is going to be much harder if they both fell from the same height especially given te size of the notes screen.
Until they can make the note lighter,users will just have to be more careful not to drop it.Gorilla glass is not unbreakable.
I get my note tomorrow. Now I'm all paranoid
I've had a One for a few months but a couple of weeks ago I woke up to find it dead, after what I'd consider very minor liquid exposure (phone left in damp jeans overnight following drink spillage)
So, I have a new one arriving through my insurance claim but I'm now nervous that it seems pretty fragile after this experience - and critically, I can't make any more insurance claims this year if it breaks again as I claimed for a dead s3 this year also...
Am I right in thinking this isn't the hardiest phone out there? Should I sell up and go for the tougher Xperia? I just stick with my s3? It's not like the One does a huge amount the s3 couldn't.
Seriously undecided - thoughts?
I'm considering getting rid of my One for other reasons and one of the phones I'm considering is the Xperia Z. Just waiting for it to come out on T-Mob, AT&T, or Google Edition.
How is the Xperia "sturdier" It's full glass. The only way it's "sturdier" is that it can survive water..
I think it depends on what you're looking in your phone.
If you found that the One is perfect for you and the only thing that bothers you is its water resistant, so just take care of it a little bit more.
Else, if you know you can't keep it far from danger, you may take Xperia Z.
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I've had a One for a few months but a couple of weeks ago I woke up to find it dead, after what I'd consider very minor liquid exposure (phone left in damp jeans overnight following drink spillage)
So, I have a new one arriving through my insurance claim but I'm now nervous that it seems pretty fragile after this experience - and critically, I can't make any more insurance claims this year if it breaks again as I claimed for a dead s3 this year also...
Am I right in thinking this isn't the hardiest phone out there? Should I sell up and go for the tougher Xperia? I just stick with my s3? It's not like the One does a huge amount the s3 couldn't.
Seriously undecided - thoughts?
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If it was left wrapped in damp material there is a very good chance this is what would happen to a lot of phones.
Not having a dig in any way, but you've claimed twice in a year which suggests you need to look after them a bit more.
cjm1979 said:
If it was left wrapped in damp material there is a very good chance this is what would happen to a lot of phones.
Not having a dig in any way, but you've claimed twice in a year which suggests you need to look after them a bit more.
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Agreed, unless you had a waterproof phone then most phones would have become damaged its your own stupid fault, look after phones more. Good luck on claiming about the xperias back if you drop it and smash it.
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How is the Xperia "sturdier" It's full glass. The only way it's "sturdier" is that it can survive water..
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Isn't the glass stronger on the Xperia?
deezle said:
Isn't the glass stronger on the Xperia?
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You're saying that a full glass phone will take a beating better than an aluminum one? Sure, the One might have dinks if it's being bumped around, but chances are the Xperia will be totally shattered so.. I still don't see how you think glass is "stronger" in that sense than metal.
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You're saying that a full glass phone will take a beating better than an aluminum one? Sure, the One might have dinks if it's being bumped around, but chances are the Xperia will be totally shattered so.. I still don't see how you think glass is "stronger" in that sense than metal.
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I'm referring to the screen.
Why would only worry about the screen? Both use glass. The Xperia is full glass all around and has a much worse screen. If you're as careless as you seem to be, ain't nothing gonna save you from destroying any phone unfortunately.
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Why would only worry about the screen? Both use glass. The Xperia is full glass all around and has a much worse screen. If you're as careless as you seem to be, ain't nothing gonna save you from destroying any phone unfortunately.
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This
The One is very sturdy indeed, mine's survived a good few drops now, but the Z was tougher. The glass on the Z is bendy, Dragontail I believe, and the frame is a toughened material that's far stronger than the One.
For every other reason other than waterproof ability, I would choose the One.
The S3 is incredibly fragile. Two people I know have shattered their screens, one of them trice, purely from dropping them from around 1 foot high.
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The S3 is incredibly fragile. Two people I know have shattered their screens, one of them trice, purely from dropping them from around 1 foot high.
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This is certainly true, so annoying. It's not a particularly grippy phone either - I dropped it twice in a year, both pretty minor but the screen cracked both times. I only claimed on insurance so I could sell it...
And thanks for the helpful response, much more useful than everyone who seems to know everything about how I care for my possessions.
Seems their is no specific comments around the One being particularly bad with minor liquid contact so I'll take that as a good sign, swayiing towards sticking with the one at the moment.
The xperia isn't sturdier at all, saying that all phones when naked are pretty weak, none of them will take a 6 foot fall in the right place, so with that in mind the only reason to move to the xperia is because you fear dropping it in water and or you plan to use it under water or around it.
For me the One is the best phone of the year for many reasons, you have to weigh up what suits you best.
Leaving your phone in wet anything is pretty stupid though, would you leave 500 quid in damp jeans? Your laptop in a wet environment? No, so don't do it with your phone.
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Forgot to mention, liquid damage of any kind is a guessing game unless you plan to test each component, most of which the end user can't test anyway, I always assume the worst when it comes to liquid damage, that way i'm covered, plus thats what insurance is for.
If it's just a bit of water on the screen and nothing has seaped into the handset itself then you may be ok, but if it has gone into the handset then theres no telling what damage has been done.
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I guess the subject says it all but just to be clear. I put my brand new Z3 Compact in my back pocket, too it out 2 minutes later and had a nice crack over the screen. The durability of the Z3 Compact screen is just a joke when it breaks this fast.
I carried my old HTC One S in my back pocket for the last 2.5 year and it just has some scratches (it also survived some nasty falls).
I've contacted Sony for support and I'm curious how they will respond...
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I guess the subject says it all but just to be clear. I put my brand new Z3 Compact in my back pocket, too it out 2 minutes later and had a nice crack over the screen. The durability of the Z3 Compact screen is just a joke when it breaks this fast.
I carried my old HTC One S in my back pocket for the last 2.5 year and it just has some scratches (it also survived some nasty falls).
I've contacted Sony for support and I'm curious how they will respond...
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You must have buttocks made of steel.
I'm pretty sure it didn't just sponaneously crack in your back pocket, you must have sat down or something while it was in there.
By the way, keeping your phone in your back pocket is like asking for it to be stolen by pickpockets.
The biggest joke here must the be that you're angry and surprised that a phone breaks when carrying it in you're back pocket.
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You must have buttocks made of steel.
I'm pretty sure it didn't just sponaneously crack in your back pocket, you must have sat down or something while it was in there.
By the way, keeping your phone in your back pocket is like asking for it to be stolen by pickpockets.
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^This...
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The biggest joke here must the be that you're angry and surprised that a phone breaks when carrying it in you're back pocket.
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...and this^^^
I get the impression that the black version seems to be more sensitive.... Fingers crossed 'cause I got the white one
I suppose you didn't use a case or protection of any kind?
I hope Sony say 'Tough titties don't sit on your phone moron!'
Seriously what do people expect...
Looks like some scratches on the right side as well as a chip. Your leaving a lot out it wasn't just a "stuck it in my back pocket and it broke".
Even tho phones never used to break in back pockets, suddenly iPhone 6 and now z3c owners are saying, what do you expect.
I'd expect a phone to not be weaker than the old ones actually.
Hope you get it sorted op.
i'm sure they broke too. but no one took the time to post about it until now because they knew that it was their fault for breaking it. now all of a sudden, they are like, hey i should tell everyone about this because it makes me cool.
I carry my Z3C naked, not a single scratch yet.
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Even tho phones never used to break in back pockets, suddenly iPhone 6 and now z3c owners are saying, what do you expect.
I'd expect a phone to not be weaker than the old ones actually.
Hope you get it sorted op.
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Phones are steadily getting larger & thinner, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out that sitting on your phone isn't going to do it a world of good.
In other news: camera in phones aren't as good as dedicated cameras.. (thought I'd better mention that too, as that's something else many people have difficulty grasping)
you're right, planes have got larger, thinner (skinned) and lighter too .
Best not fly anymore then as by your rationale we should expect breakage and not expect improvements as technology advances.
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you're right, planes have got larger, thinner (skinned) and lighter too .
Best not fly anymore then as by your rationale we should expect breakage and not expect improvements as technology advances.
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People too seem to have got larger and more thin skinned...
I'm not sure how to spell this out.
The laws of physics dictate, larger thinner objects are more likely to break/bend when pressure/weight is applied than smaller fatter ones.
Nothing to do with technology, people need to stop being sheep and apply a little common sense, before doing stupid things then 'blaming the technology' - take some responsibility for yourself ffs.
My Z3C was in front pocket (not very tight pants) and front screen was cracked with no reason.
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I guess the subject says it all but just to be clear. I put my brand new Z3 Compact in my back pocket, too it out 2 minutes later and had a nice crack over the screen. The durability of the Z3 Compact screen is just a joke when it breaks this fast.
I carried my old HTC One S in my back pocket for the last 2.5 year and it just has some scratches (it also survived some nasty falls).
I've contacted Sony for support and I'm curious how they will respond...
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that is basically identical the crack that i had except mine was on the back. Mine is back with Sony at the moment! mine was in my front pocket though.
Just because manufactures make the phone thinner and lighter does not mean the way people use them are any different. people still put them in pockets etc. I have kept my nexus 5 in my back pocket for ages, sat down on it etc and its not cracked. (im 6ft4 and about 17st) i get my sony and breaks in 5 days...when its in the front pocket. There are making things lighter and thinner sure but not to the point where i have to make sure i carry a phone in bubble wrap because they cant make it strong enough for everyday use. Something is wrong with the phones not with the way are they being carried!
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Quoted for truth
You really should get a phone with more durable material if you plan to pocket it. It's just common sense it is fragile..... Belt clip for me!
Glass on Back Of Xperia Z3 C may be inferior.
Inferior meaning not the Asahi Dragontrail or Gorilla Glass 3
Equivalent we HOPE is on the front.
Does Sony specify exactly what is on the front of these phones ?
And I think the specs on the back glass are more vague.
Seems like design flaw / substitution glass or maybe illogical
design flaw.
One of main reasons I want a phone this
size is to put in front pocket and carry ..
Use to play Internet Radio while I work and
browse play on when not working.
In a good case is this phone rugged enough for physically active
People ? Or too fragile .
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Inferior meaning not the Asahi Dragontrail or Gorilla Glass 3
Equivalent we HOPE is on the front.
Does Sony specify exactly what is on the front of these phones ?
Seems like design flaw / substitution glass or maybe illogical
design flaw.
One of main reasons I want a phone this
size is to put in front pocket and carry ..
Use to play Internet Radio while I work and
browse play on when not working.
In a good case is this phone rugged enough for physically active
People ? Or too fragile .
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The front glass seems good, no micro scratches so far. I'm just going to get me a Spigen Ultra Hybrid clear bumper case as soon as it comes out for the Z3C, then it'll be fine.
Right now I have this as a temporary case: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/flexishield-sony-xperia-z3-compact-gel-case-frost-white-p49135.htm
Some people seem to think scratch resistant = shatterproof. Actually the most scratch resistant materials like diamond etc are not hard to shatter/break at all. It has nothing to do with one another.
I was going to buy the Z3c and apply a shatter resistant film on the front and back, but that only protects from knocks to the panel from resonating and breaking the glass, not from pressure from lifting your leg with the phone in your front pocket.
If anyone has a go-to brand of protective film they use to prevent breaking (not so much scratching, as I can replace the film every now and again), I want to know!
Hi all,
For those of you cares about scratches on your screen; you'd better put on a screen protector.
Upon noticing a tiny little one centimetre scratch on my phone I am outraged to find that it is no where to be found in the listed Official $am$ung Specifications for this phone, the Corning Gorilla Glass 4 announced on 20/Nov/2014, as a feature.
As a matter of fact that such protection mechanism is of right now industry wide standard practice. And as to why I find a tiny little scratch on my phone is evidence that $am$ung did not employ a proper screen protection on this massively expensive cellphone MADE CHEAPLY.
As a result those of you who might not be aware should check to see if your cellphone's screen contains little to many scratches. At least with my cellphone I find that the screen protection was inadequate due to this scratch. To bring all of you reading this to the attention of my phone being "Made in Vietnam"; could it be a reason why $am$ung did not include and mention Corning Gorilla Glass 4 in its specifications website. Such a product is a shame for $am$ung to announce the release to its consumers. The fact is now clear that $am$ung's Note4 is a overpriced product with incompetent design and after sales services, ie, firmware update delay and rumours in the media. Evidently, as seen on this forum there were clones and fakes of this cellphone which degrades the name and value of it to the lowest in comparison to other major companies and brands of smartphones and tablets.
Further more to this outrage upon less then three months (since 17/Oct/2014) of the release of Note 4, it has already made news the new Note 5 is coming soon.
This is almost like that $am$ung has admitted that this Note 4 is an utter failure and would kindly likely to stop production and support of any of its variants in favour of a New Market segment to the new Note 5. This is all nothing but to drain the global economy on a massive scale of smartphone markets and buyers. As a propaganda of the product from this company, it could have ruined its long built reputations.
Who would want a expensive smartphone without sufficient screen protection ? And now with such discovery, this leads to the conclusion that Note4 is nothing more than a piece of expensive rip-off cheaply built low quality product with a screen that is easily scratched.
Gorilla glass 4 is not a sapphire or diamond and it is scratched by sand for example. You can't blame Samsung for content of your pockets. If I could afford to have a few loose diamonds in my pockets, I wouldn't worry about little scratch.
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........What the heck did I just read?
Let's break things down, shall we?
- NO phone screen is scratch-proof! NONE! Any form of Gorilla Glass is scratch-resistant, but it's just that - resistant! That means scratches can still happen. I also can pretty much guarantee that any other phone you may have had without a screen protector would have small, micro-scratches. Deny it all you want, but as I stated originally, no phone display is scratch-proof.
- Regarding lack of firmware updates, obviously you've never owned a Samsung device (or most other non-Nexus device). Has HTC released Lollipop everywhere for the HTC One (M8)? No. LG G3? Only rolling out in select markets. Heck, even Moto hasn't updated all their Moto X (2014) devices yet, and those are about as close to stock Android as you can get! Part of the blame is on the manufacturer, part on the carriers. So if you think Samsung is alone here, think again!
- Regarding a "cheaply-made" device, it's built better than previous Samsung devices! Sure, an iPhone may seem better built, but it has its own share of problems ("bendgate" anyone?)
- With regards to talk of a Note 5, guess what? A new Note appears every year around October! Just like a new Nexus, a new iPhone, a new HTC One, etc. Any rumor now is incredibly early, and thus is almost pointless to speculate on.
In short, sounds like someone just wanting to rant and be a troll because they didn't bother protecting their expensive phone like they should have. You won't get much sympathy here, as there's really nobody else to blame but yourself. Not Samsung, you.
Corning have said themselves it uses Gorilla Glass 4.Its listed on their website .
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/en/products-with-gorilla/samsung/samsung-galaxy-note-4
As another poster said, Gorilla Glass isn't 100% scratch resistant, it gives protection but you can still get scratches on the screen.
Anyway, there's no way Corning would list the product as having GG4 if it didn't, that would be commercial suicide.
Also, why would it being made in Vietnam mean it would be of lesser quality?!
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All credibility was lost when you decided to type '$am$ung'.
If you're going to complain, at least be adult about it.
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I've have my Note 4 since launch with no screen protection and Not a since scratch.
darekz said:
Gorilla glass 4 is not a sapphire or diamond and it is scratched by sand for example. You can't blame Samsung for content of your pockets. If I could afford to have a few loose diamonds in my pockets, I wouldn't worry about little scratch.
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lol
The fact is that you don't even know what kind of glass is implemented on this device.
Devhux said:
........What the heck did I just read?
Let's break things down, shall we?
- NO phone screen is scratch-proof! NONE! Any form of Gorilla Glass is scratch-resistant, but it's just that - resistant! That means scratches can still happen. I also can pretty much guarantee that any other phone you may have had without a screen protector would have small, micro-scratches. Deny it all you want, but as I stated originally, no phone display is scratch-proof.
- Regarding lack of firmware updates, obviously you've never owned a Samsung device (or most other non-Nexus device). Has HTC released Lollipop everywhere for the HTC One (M8)? No. LG G3? Only rolling out in select markets. Heck, even Moto hasn't updated all their Moto X (2014) devices yet, and those are about as close to stock Android as you can get! Part of the blame is on the manufacturer, part on the carriers. So if you think Samsung is alone here, think again!
- Regarding a "cheaply-made" device, it's built better than previous Samsung devices! Sure, an iPhone may seem better built, but it has its own share of problems ("bendgate" anyone?)
- With regards to talk of a Note 5, guess what? A new Note appears every year around October! Just like a new Nexus, a new iPhone, a new HTC One, etc. Any rumor now is incredibly early, and thus is almost pointless to speculate on.
In short, sounds like someone just wanting to rant and be a troll because they didn't bother protecting their expensive phone like they should have. You won't get much sympathy here, as there's really nobody else to blame but yourself. Not Samsung, you.
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The fact is that the device should be scratch proof as with many other devices I own previously. Like Asus TF700T, Samsung Galaxy S3, S4, and S5, iPad 3, 4, Air and Air 2. I don't have any problems with screen protection on these devices.
Despite any slow updates, I do not object that such important updates require multiple processes, however, when it comes to priority on servicing its customers none of its models updates should be in a serial manner but as a parallel. That's to say this process should be consistent not intermittent.
smdh
Batfink33 said:
Corning have said themselves it uses Gorilla Glass 4.Its listed on their website .
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/en/products-with-gorilla/samsung/samsung-galaxy-note-4
As another poster said, Gorilla Glass isn't 100% scratch resistant, it gives protection but you can still get scratches on the screen.
Anyway, there's no way Corning would list the product as having GG4 if it didn't, that would be commercial suicide.
Also, why would it being made in Vietnam mean it would be of lesser quality?!
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I am not satisfied with the screen protection compared with older products which I own previously and had no screen protections problems.
The fact is that generally if it is made with quality then I should not have seen a scratch on the screen.
And if it is made in Vietnam I am only speculating as to why they have chosen this route and produces a screen which is capable of being scratched easily.
kinghu said:
All credibility was lost when you decided to type '$am$ung'.
If you're going to complain, at least be adult about it.
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Tell me what's __wrong__ and immature (as you suggested) with $am$ung ?
This is the fact that a unhappy user does not like to type its name in the proper form.
ciscostud said:
I've have my Note 4 since launch with no screen protection and Not a since scratch.
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And how does this justify that Samsung did not list the type of screen protection on its specifications web page??
tauzins said:
smdh
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Tell me, do you put a screen protector on your phone or not?
Redefined301 said:
Tell me, do you put a screen protector on your phone or not?
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Oh yeah and don't tell me that you can not complain because Samsung did not officially list the type of screen protection on their specifications web page.
And if you do scratch your phone unconsciously, should you mind that Samsung did not want to provide a proper screen protection nor do they want to tell you exactly what is the form of screen protection they have implemented on Note 4. But, instead leave you to wonder what screen protection is on the phone and let's wander into third party websites which lists the device as with Corning Gorilla Glass 4.
The fact is that Samsung did not formally acknowledge that this device has Corning Gorilla Glass 4.
Mind you, if you do get a scratch on your screen, how would you feel about your new device being scratched and becoming ugly and do not look like new.
We're not your enemies here - take a breath. Clearly you're upset and feel wronged or deceived in some way.
Vote with your wallet and buy an alternate brand next time.
For what it's worth, I'm pleasantly surprised at how well-built my Note 4 is. It doesn't have a single scratch or scuff on the screen of any kind. I keep it in my pockets and leave it on surfaces without a thought. It's also survived three heavy hits onto solid tiled floors from about one metre without so much as a ding on the band or anywhere else. I don't have any case or screen protector either.
By contrast, my old 5s hit the same tiled floor from a lesser height and had two significant dents in the alu band and looked like the screen was about to submit at any moment.
This is not meant as a boast but rather to say my experience is different to yours.
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How is it Samsungs fault that you, by not fitting a screen protector, have scratched your phone?
I don't use screen protectors. If the screen gets scratched, it's my fault. Take some responsibility and stop blaming others.
andythilo said:
How is it Samsungs fault that you, by not fitting a screen protector, have scratched your phone?
I don't use screen protectors. If the screen gets scratched, it's my fault. Take some responsibility and stop blaming others.
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As everybody said, nothing is scratch resistant...just use a screen protector and that's it.
BTW i had mine for 2 months and no scratch or whatsoever
... And the important takeaway here is that no company has a scratch-proof screen. Just because you never noticed a scratch on a previous device does not mean it was scratch-proof. No company has ever made such a claim either, because they know they'd be sued pretty darn quick for false advertising.
andythilo said:
How is it Samsungs fault that you, by not fitting a screen protector, have scratched your phone?
I don't use screen protectors. If the screen gets scratched, it's my fault. Take some responsibility and stop blaming others.
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lol
I am not saying that, but they did not list it in the specs, how do you know what do you get?
Ashatar said:
As everybody said, nothing is scratch resistant...just use a screen protector and that's it.
BTW i had mine for 2 months and no scratch or whatsoever
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Totally defeats the purpose of Corning Gorilla Glass by using a screen protector.