Arrogant Microsoft knows better and removes synchronization over Wi-Fi possibility in ActiveSync 4.0 and Windows Mobile 5.0 - more information available
May 23, 2005 [Wireless (Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, ...)]
Competition is adding features in new versions of mobile platforms. Microsoft is removing some features.
We have mentioned it already previously, that no longer ActiveSync over Wi-Fi will be possible in Windows Mobile 5.0, and now there is some addtional background information available about this serious mistake of Microsoft with regard to Wi-Fi synchronization:
the wifi/ethernet sync capabilities had to be removed in ActiveSync 4.0 for security reasons. When decision was made, there was plenty of disappointment internally and a number meetings where smart folks tried to find ways to keep the feature in without risking security and without slipping the schedule commitments we had made. Unfortunately, that ended up not being possible for AS 4.0.
To read more on this topic (rather lame justifications from Microsoft employees) click here.
Conclusion: again Microsoft behaves in a totally arrogant and disrespecting (for end customers) way: removes the feature that was heavily used by many people. While other corporations are innovating strongly (example: next version of iTunes will include native support for Podcasting, while next Windows Media Player and ActiveSync will not support it), Microsoft is removing features and not innovating at all - just imitating features that others had 2-3 years ago (as it is with camera API in Windows Mobile 5.0). Clearly Microsoft needs some urgent changes because something is wrong there.
This is the only reason i'm not upgrading to WM5...
WM5 needs AS4 and AS4 does not support sync over wifi, this is the feature i love most in my ppc, getting my mails, documents... everything while sitting in a meeting room.
hell... i need some alternate to activesync b4 i upgrade to wm5
My guess is that it won't be long before some third party is out with a solution that fixes that problem (fake serial driver accessible via WLAN or something).
I really cannot believe this!! I had a Himalaya and was happy with it. I bought a Wizard now for good money, just to have WLAN/WIFI and - I swear to god - in order to use it for Activesync!! I had a WLAN SD Card in my old Himalaya and it worked FINE!! Damn!
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Hi all,
I've just ordered the HTC TYTN II with Orange in the UK. The phone is going to arrive on Tuesday and I thought I'd take a moment to work out what I'll need to do when the phone arrives.
I've had a little play with the phone in an Orange shop and I've concluded that the Orange firmware isn't very good. As a result, I think the first thing I'll need to do is flash the firmware with a generic one? I've never flashed one of these phones before and this'll be my first Windows Mobile device, if anybody could point me in the right direction it'd be great.
After that, what software should I be aware of for the device? It'll be handy if you know what I want to do with the phone and why I've chosen it.
I use my laptop a fair amount, but it's not always feasible to have it with me. As a result, I'd like the TYTN II to do some of my work on the go. I'll need it for:
Accessing work e-mail from an Outlook Exchange server and personal mail via POP3
Some sort of calendar, preferably one that I could sync to Outlook or Remember The Milk. I don't currently have a good calendar solution and what a means to have a calendar on my desktop, laptop and mobile. All of which need to be synched! Something that'll eleviate the need for a paper diary.
Web access, I need to access sites quite often, is the default browser any good? I don't have a mobile internet plan unfortunately (Orange don't seem to offer anything good, no mobile broadband, so I'll be using wi-fi access where I can).
Those essentially are my main requirements. If anything, I want the TYTN II to be my personal planner. Want it to have all my notes, calendar items, tasks, e-mails etc in one place and want those items to also sync to my desktop and my laptop.
Thanks in advance for any advice, I'm excited about getting the phone, just another 2 days to wait!
Sorry to sound like an a**, did you ot notice the rules, and the 5 stickies in the Kaiser forum? Just use the search functions, XDA is flooded with topics such as yours.
"where should I start?"
Ummm, here's a good place. Start reading, don't flash any roms for a while just play with the tons of Cabs and tweaks for starters, and there are a TON.
Have fun.
Hey everyone, I have an ATT Tilt with windows 6.1. I have unlimited txt. I would like to use aim on my tilt,the only thing is that it dosent show all my buddys. Ive been googling for a program to install that still uses SMS and not data. So i came here to see if anyone knows one that is like the Oz one that comes preinstalled.
Thanks Steve
you can download the new aim mobile http://mobile.aol.com/aolproducts/aim-for-windows-mobile or get octrotalk (no visuals, use aim, yahoo, msn). you need a gmail account though to use octrotalk...you can even use gchat on it too. works well and doesnt use to much memory
does it use text messages or data?
tilt1414 said:
does it use text messages or data?
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Looking at the web site, it shows:
"*U.S. only. AOL Mobile services may require a wireless data plan and charges from your wireless carrier may apply. Not all AOL Mobile services are available on all wireless carriers or on all wireless devices. Check with your wireless carrier to confirm that product use is consistent with your carrier's Terms of Service."
why would you have a phone like this and NOT have data?
he could be like me and used to only have a razr but his lovely gf bought him a kaiser =]
as for the official aim program ,it uses data/wifi. i am also in search for an aim program that uses text instead of data ( data disocnnects too much where i work).
?? blackberry?
texters are for blackberrys! hehe i had a blackberry for 5 years! now i got the Tilt and never going back specialy with 6.1 a big improvment better than my last try for a windows mobile phone witch was a 8525 with 6.0 rom
data is 40 dollars. also the best messanger is www.beejive.com
its in alpha stage but, it works 100% and they wont bring it out of alpha stage. I dont not know why... cuz its a great program
OK, now that Apple has announced what's going to be in the next iPhone firmware (copy-paste, universal search, push notifications, etc), what more does the iPhone need until it's a viable platform for the most die-hard here to abandon WinMo? Software issues only of course, no "keyboard" response.
It still can't multitask which I think is wack.. they say it drains the battery too hard (that kind of hardware issue is acceptable for discussion).
I'm already hooked and can't wait to get rid of my Hermes. I will miss internet sharing for "free" though
If i had to change WM to OSX, it would need to have :
- Mass storage driver
- Using the phone without ever installing itunes (yes i'm on linux)
- Installing apps without appstore (same as above)
- Multitasking because i like to listen to a webradio while using my GPS
- IGo 2008
- Flash support
- Skyfire-like browser
- Outlook support (not exchange)
- MS Voice command (not cyberon or other 'must record everything before use' program)
- WMWifirouter 1.25 (because i use it as a wifi card for my laptop)
- Custom rom enabled (because i like to change often)
- external mouse / keyboard support
- rotation in every screen including home, because when my mobile car holder is in landscape, i want every app to be in landscape as well
- msn messenger (not another multi client app)
- galarm (because it is the best alarm clock program i have ever used)
- video recording
- tcpmp-like player (note that i don't know every iphone app available)
- better today screen like touchflo
That's pretty much what i use everyday and my kaiser does that perfectly.
TrYde said:
If i had to change WM to OSX, it would need to have :
- Outlook support (not exchange)
- external mouse / keyboard support
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I need FULL Outlook intergration also, like Business Contact Manager...along with OneNote. Also not having a user removeable battery and memory card is a deal breaker for me. I found the iPhoney drains the battery just as fast as WinMo phone.
The abillity to run the phone from my desktop wth something like My Moblier is really handy.
GWelker62 said:
I need FULL Outlook intergration also, like Business Contact Manager...along with OneNote. Also not having a user removeable battery and memory card is a deal breaker for me. I found the iPhoney drains the battery just as fast as WinMo phone.
The abillity to run the phone from my desktop wth something like My Moblier is really handy.
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I didn't go into hardware stuff, otherwise i could add a lot more, like lack of buttons, lack of physical keyboard, resistive screen instead of capacitive, a real camera with flash....
The thing i love with this kind och apple presentations is the audience. When they in example presented the MMS function, there was big applauds.. like it was the first time we saw MMS function in a phone. And then copy-paste function and big applauds breaks out, again, "its fantastic,wow" (i think apple was first to implement this function in a phone... or not!?).
Yes, iphone is nice,smooth,fast. And i still think its not the phone that makes the iphone. Its the developers 3rd party that make its nice. I need my phone in my work, and need functionality that works smooth with win xp/outlook.
I wish microsoft takes a look at the custom rom's that is on the market, MS could maybe get some great ideas from them. And one other thing, let us use the apps in landscape mode, i think the 3rd party rotation app works 50%. Give us something new, something with speed.
/Mike,Stockholm
HTC Touch HD
I haven't completely abandoned WinMo because I love gadgets and variety, but I have abandoned it as my primary phone. I switched to the iPhone as my primary over a year ago. Everything iPhone can do, it does it faster and easier than WinMo phones do. Anything it can't do, I don't really use. Using a WinMo phone feels so much more clunky than the iPhone. For instance, I was using my Touch Diamond the other night. Opera works much better than PIE, but it was still slow, annoying, dragging, and at times with greatly delayed reaction to my touch. The iPhone Safari is much faster, and seems much more refined. I use my Touch Diamond much less often, yet it crashes or locks up requiring a RESET much more often. Of course, I have my share of complaints about the iPhone OS X, and the main one is dependence on iTunes. I don't like having to sync folders, I greatly prefer WinMo's way - copying the music and videos I want into a folder on the device.
It's not true that the iPhone OS X can't multitask. It's a variant of UNIX so it certainly can multitask, it's just not officially supported by the SDK. It makes sense, after all, Apple intends for the apps in the AppStore to be interactive apps, the type that shouldn't need multitasking ability. The various apps available via Cydia on a jailbroken phone don't necessarily follow Apple conventions and can multitask. For example, you can install Open SSH and SSH into the phone via Wifi while it's running any other app. All the unofficial UNIX-style apps can and do multitask.
Big applause for functions like MMS most likely aren't because people are amazed at the new feature, but people are happy because they're thinking, "FINALLY!" I know that was my thought, even the very first color LCD phone I ever had could do MMS (Samsung SGH-E715 in 2003).
What else does OS X mobile need to rival WM? Nothing. They can do whatever they like, but after my experience with an iPod Touch I will never buy another Apple product for as long as I live. As for the iPhone itself - I'm tired of hearing about it. Even on an HTC fanboy Web site, there's no escape.
GnatGoSplat said:
I haven't completely abandoned WinMo because I love gadgets and variety, but I have abandoned it as my primary phone. I switched to the iPhone as my primary over a year ago. Everything iPhone can do, it does it faster and easier than WinMo phones do. Anything it can't do, I don't really use. Using a WinMo phone feels so much more clunky than the iPhone. For instance, I was using my Touch Diamond the other night. Opera works much better than PIE, but it was still slow, annoying, dragging, and at times with greatly delayed reaction to my touch. The iPhone Safari is much faster, and seems much more refined. I use my Touch Diamond much less often, yet it crashes or locks up requiring a RESET much more often. Of course, I have my share of complaints about the iPhone OS X, and the main one is dependence on iTunes. I don't like having to sync folders, I greatly prefer WinMo's way - copying the music and videos I want into a folder on the device.
It's not true that the iPhone OS X can't multitask. It's a variant of UNIX so it certainly can multitask, it's just not officially supported by the SDK. It makes sense, after all, Apple intends for the apps in the AppStore to be interactive apps, the type that shouldn't need multitasking ability. The various apps available via Cydia on a jailbroken phone don't necessarily follow Apple conventions and can multitask. For example, you can install Open SSH and SSH into the phone via Wifi while it's running any other app. All the unofficial UNIX-style apps can and do multitask.
Big applause for functions like MMS most likely aren't because people are amazed at the new feature, but people are happy because they're thinking, "FINALLY!" I know that was my thought, even the very first color LCD phone I ever had could do MMS (Samsung SGH-E715 in 2003).
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Agreed 100% After many many years of being a HTC fan boy I out of here, after only a week with my iphone .... i love it and yep I did have to jailbreak it to make it really the phone I wanted but then again didnt have to flash my htc's to do the same?
Look, everyone to there own but you for me I was sick of paying £500+ for something that looks and feels the same year in year out and only now realise how poor the wm os runs.
goodbye fairwell my OLD friend WM
xxx
this iphone term 'jailbreak' means what? supercid? and can these be unlocked for any GSM carrier?
galaxys said:
this iphone term 'jailbreak' means what? supercid? and can these be unlocked for any GSM carrier?
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It Means 'Rooting'
Hi experts here,
I bitterly miss my good old active sync from WM6.5.
With it I could USB-sync locally pretty everything from my own Outlook without any external provider eating my horribly expensive roaming airtime.
I bitterly miss the ablity to use my phone as a USB-stick without any driver on the host.
I bitterly miss the abilty to use my phone as a UMTS modem:
Has anyone developed a 3rd party app (or several ones) to reclaim these essential features?
I hate M$ for having dropped active sync from WP7 (to please the operators?)
RIN67630