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i went to 3...THREE best buys to get a freaken screen protector.
first two were sold out on everything. So the third one in nyc i got it. (zagg...after a day of having it on..its GREAT, first day it looks like AIDS but you have to leave it absolutely alone and let it dry...so crisp)
anyways, first 2 places the guy/girl both said without me asking, dont worry, more is coming, including the desk dock.
EXCITEMENT. so the third one I brought it up and the guy agreed as well, showed me his nexus and said, 'yup..and im coming from a nexus one with all that jazz, hold on tight, its coming as well'
i just wish i brought up the car dock.
anyways, happy new years
Woot!!!
I can't wait until more accessories are available for the Nexus S. This platinum case from Best Buy is just not cutting it!!
Thanks for the info I really want the dock.
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any ideas about what the dock will look like?
is there a comparison by any chance?
I would to have some sort of night dock for my nexus s.
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any ideas about what the dock will look like?
is there a comparison by any chance?
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I'm also wondering how this will look like.
Dock should be functional, correct? Which means the micro-USB will somehow be utilized (charging, etc.).
My friend's Moto Droid dock works excellent because his micro-USB is on the side (horizontal), perfect for use as a desk clock or alarm clock.
The Nexus S's USB port is on the bottom, which means it might stand vertical? Not as attractive, but we will see.
I call bull**** until I see an official statement from Samsung... after all, you're hearing this from a Best Buy EMPLOYEE?!?!?!? LOL.
I'm kicking myself over this ...
I visited the Nexus S display at the Samsung booth (an underwhelming word for their gargantuan presence) at CES last week. I'd been on the road for almost a month and hadn't had a chance to handle the device yet. I was impressed enough to think about getting one for myself.
What's relevant to this thread is that Samsung had a brochure available with details of a complete line of Nexus S accessories including a multimedia desktop dock. From memory it's essentially the same as the one already available from Samsung for the Galaxy S: the Nexus S rests horizontally in the dock that has both a USB and audio port on the back. I assume the only real difference is that the USB connector used to connect to the phone is moved higher in the dock to account for the centrally located USB port on the bottom of the Nexus S.
I'm kicking myself because at the time I didn't think to keep a copy of the brochure or ask when the accessories would go on sale. I guess I assumed incorrectly that the accessories would be available at the same time the phone went on sale...
why didn't they just release this (along with other accessories) back when they originally launched the NS?? Makes no sense
Best Buy employees saying and "confirming" that a dock will be available? This is bad comedy.
Went to a local T-Mobile store last night and saw a Desk Dock on the shelf. Same one as the 3rd picture in this link. Didn't get it because I don't really need a desk dock. But figured I would pass it along here.
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Apparently I'm not allowed to post links yet. But if you go to the slashgear site and then add this part to the end, it'll take you to the article. "galaxy-s-official-accessories-revealed-desk-car-docks-dlna-hd-streamer-1197250"
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Went to a local T-Mobile store last night and saw a Desk Dock on the shelf. Same one as the 3rd picture in this link. Didn't get it because I don't really need a desk dock. But figured I would pass it along here.
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Apparently I'm not allowed to post links yet. But if you go to the slashgear site and then add this part to the end, it'll take you to the article. "galaxy-s-official-accessories-revealed-desk-car-docks-dlna-hd-streamer-1197250"
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That's for T-Mobile's Vibrant. There is still no real official desk dock for the Nexus S.
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That's for T-Mobile's Vibrant. There is still no real official desk dock for the Nexus S.
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That's what I was wondering. The clerk said it would work for the NS because it is a Samsung, but I didn't really believe him. Figured I would check here since people here actually know what they are talking about.
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That's what I was wondering. The clerk said it would work for the NS because it is a Samsung, but I didn't really believe him. Figured I would check here since people here actually know what they are talking about.
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Yeah the guy is an idiot. I won't work.
I see a thread in China Forum that report Nexus 7 burn out when charge overnight.
I suggest the author of this thread to report local ASUS and claim for free exchange if it is factory defect.
Original thread here (http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1903068351) and you can just check the photos of dead Nexus 7.
Before everyone gets cared, in most cases this has to do with a malfunctioning adapter giving too much power to the tablet.
So I guess he was unlucky with a malfunctioning charger or using a chinese 3th party charger which also explains quite a bit.
In the prictures you see in the link, the problem started at the accu entry which also shows that it had to do with overpowering.
So I suggest to prevent using custom 3th party power adapters or your tablet migth end up like that, still a rare case since the power it had to get should normally already burned away the power cable itself before it even charges the tablet :/
But the problem also might be in the accu itself which means you just can suddely get a burned out tablet yourself
Anyway we'll hear more about it when teher are more cases if there aren't any more cases of burned nexus 7's I guess the problem wasn't that big and just a single fabrication malfunction in the tablet, power adapter or 3th party power adapter.
WOW! What a horrific sight. I really hope this is an isolated case related to a bad home electrical grid.
But since it's the only case, I guess it is.
I'd say the fault is in the battery. I'cant see the charge control IC failing and allowing over voltage/current through to the battery. The SMB 347 claims to have:
Status/fault indicator
Battery/IC thermal protection
Short circuit/UV/OV protection
Charge termination safety timers
I would cry if I woke to my nexus looking like that
Author claim that he use original ASUS Adapter.
Anyway, I advise him to report to local ASUS and investigate the reason. If it is factory fault then he can get the replacement. BUT, I hope it is just isolated case too.
I will follow this thread since I am Taiwanese and can read that thread.
QUOTE=seahorsepip;32456727]Before everyone gets cared, in most cases this has to do with a malfunctioning adapter giving too much power to the tablet.
So I guess he was unlucky with a malfunctioning charger or using a chinese 3th party charger which also explains quite a bit.
In the prictures you see in the link, the problem started at the accu entry which also shows that it had to do with overpowering.
So I suggest to prevent using custom 3th party power adapters or your tablet migth end up like that, still a rare case since the power it had to get should normally already burned away the power cable itself before it even charges the tablet :/
But the problem also might be in the accu itself which means you just can suddely get a burned out tablet yourself
Anyway we'll hear more about it when teher are more cases if there aren't any more cases of burned nexus 7's I guess the problem wasn't that big and just a single fabrication malfunction in the tablet, power adapter or 3th party power adapter.[/QUOTE]
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I attach photo here.
Anyone willing to test if the nexus 7 ends up the same if you put it into the microwave?
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Anyone willing to test if the nexus 7 ends up the same if you put it into the microwave?
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I will soon as I get done putting it through the dousing it with kerosene, setting it on fire and having it wrestle a bear test.
Was the tablet rooted and severely overclocked? That could cause overheating too.
Too much OC!!!
Scary images no doubt
this could be related to those who have had there nexus 7 make a hissing sound then stop Functioning.. So i wonder if this is just the first unlucky person..I so hope its isolated case. Nobody Needs a fire in there home.. I never charge my devices over night never leave any type of electronics that use a transformer cable plugged in...
I hope that asus steps up and replaces this and checks to insure this is not going to happen to someone else...
Buy a Nexus 7, get a smoke-detector free? Lol!
I shouldn't be kidding around. I just bought a Nexus 7 last week.
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Was the tablet rooted and severely overclocked? That could cause overheating too.
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Probably just rooted. This happens to most people who root. That's why I jailbroke mine instead.
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Probably just rooted. This happens to most people who root.
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Yeah whatever
My 3rd nexus 7 had something similar happen to it!
Except, mine got really hot, and died but it didn't melt!
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Probably just rooted. This happens to most people who root. That's why I jailbroke mine instead.
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Ah, makes sense. Good thing I didn't root mine, I simply unlocked with iTunes on Linux
In all seriousness though, I too hope this is isolated. Would rather not want my Nexus 7 to inevitably do this at some point...
I thiks it's the same like the story with S3 - burned in the microwave to make a scandal.
Followup: Asus China promise to replace the unit
The author said that China Asus has promised to replace one new N7 within 2 weeks. ASUS mau investigate this damaged unit to find out the fact.
Oh dear, I don't know what Id do if I woke up to that, that is horrific.
I hope this is isolated and doesn't start happening to others.
Also I would like to know the setup of his tab, Overclock, Root, What apps he was using, how he was using his tab, how he was charging it, was his wall port dirty (not actual dirt the term "Dirt") etc
Been searching and reading dozens of articles about N7 recall, all repeat same story, none explains what the actual problem is. Only one mentioned something about thermal mismanagement causing thermal runaway during charge. Why would that info be important? Because if lets say some batteries don't detect battery temp properly during charge, allowing it to overheat and causing reactions to create more heat until fire (runaway effect), then temporary fix would be trivial, until replacements arrive don't use fast charge, keep the phone in cool place during charge (for example laptop cooling pad), maybe dont let it get too hot while playing games. If there is physical fault, like weak separator causing internal short etc, then avoiding fast charge may not be enough to protect the phone from fire. Also, did we have at least one problem reported in US, or is it certain markets only, like Korea? Also it seems Korean batteries are mostly the culprit, not the Chinese, which would be contrary to popular belief that Chines or Vietnam made phones are inferior. Don't seem like replacement phones will come for at least another 2 weeks and some detailed info would be helpful to asses actual risks and separate it from hysteria.
I would say this, Samsung issued a global no sell and a global recall meaning all phones regardless of components used in them. Not hysteria, fact. If they had even a known temporary solution that could possibly prevent further issues they would announce it themselves and the reason you are reading the same story repeatedly is because that's the story. T-Mobile is offering you a different phone so you don't have to wait, I understand you wanting to possibly find a safer way to use the phone should yours have whatever the issue is but either that's not an option or that info hasn't been released. The way I see it is they would not issue a recall unless it was deemed a necessity.
According to info already published, Samsung sold about 2.5 million phones, 24 in a million have issue, so estimate about 60 faulty phones total and 37 incidents already reported. it doesn't take a genius to see that either that 24 per million number is hundreds fold higher, or the problem shows up pretty much right away, so either your phone was faulty and already burned, or it is not and as safe to use as any other.
There is probably more to the story. Recall right before iphone 7 premiere! Samsung is going to take huge loss.
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Thats why this whole world recall seems to me more like a PR thing than necessity, I may not even bother replacing it, depending on what the whole story is. BTW, now that Samsung sells refurbished phones, we may see a lot of refurbished N7 soon flooding the market.
It's due to people using 3rd party chargers instead of the OEM chargers that came with the phone. That's what a T-Mobile rep said when I talked to him on the phone.
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It's due to people using 3rd party chargers instead of the OEM chargers that came with the phone. That's what a T-Mobile rep said when I talked to him on the phone.
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Reps will never know the details of these things. Often it's regurgitated things from the skuttlebutt.
Samsung UK said in a statement it was an Anode/Cathode issue.
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it may be combination of third party cables/chargers and some fault with battery not detecting/acting on fault condition. The first and only video I saw of N7 burn, it was said guy used 3rd party cable. There was at least one cable sold, that, due to it's faulty logic, could send 20 volts to phone designed for maximum 9v, which would cause definite damage and possible fire.
The part that bugs me is the lack of details for sure! Samsung is causing a lot of the confusion and hype themselves by not coming out with exactly what the problem is and exactly which units are affected. If it was simply a "Bad Battery" supplied to one manufacturing plant for example, then it would be easy to isolate the effected units. A simple webpage could be set up to check your Serial number and see if it is an effected unit or not. This would save a TON of unnecessary returns and would have reduced the impact of the recall greatly.
The fact that they didn't do this and just did a global recall could lead one to believe the problem is actually bigger than they are letting on. If say only 100K units were effected by a bad supply of batteries, why would a company do a global recall and possibly take back 2.4 million units if not needed? If this wasn't a design flaw and they are just going to send out new units manufactured in China for example, then I already have one of those with no issues so why should I get another one that could have some issue I don't have now? I used China as an example since some reports say that the China units were not effected.
Now if there is going to be a design change to incorporate a protection system so 3rd party charges could not damage the device or something like that, then I would mostly likely want to get a new unit. Come on Samsung, release the actual issue and what exactly you are doing to correct it!
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It's due to people using 3rd party chargers instead of the OEM chargers that came with the phone. That's what a T-Mobile rep said when I talked to him on the phone.
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Wrong I saw a YouTube video of a guy who used the oem charger and it blew up
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Wrong I saw a YouTube video of a guy who used the oem charger and it blew up
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Really? Can you link the video please? I'd like to see that
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Really? Can you link the video please? I'd like to see that
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQQOiilJwJ0
Here is another one that shows a burnt phone plugged into the Factory charger. The report also says that software was released to check the batteries integrity? I haven't heard any mention of that one yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq4tZNzpLBQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQQOiilJwJ0
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Thank you
Personally I don't believe new units could be redesigned, produced and shipped for replacement in 2 weeks and of course there is upcoming China launch, uninterrupted. Which makes me to believe only one factory made some faulty units and it seems to be Korean one. I also lean to believe World recall was more of PR gesture " we messed up, but we fixed it, so return it for full refund, or get replacement, whatever makes you happy", than necessity. I'm actually surprised Samsung went extra mile, at huge cost, to fix this, they didn't strike me before as so consumer oriented company. I like my N7 as much as I did before, it works great and until I get all data to make informed decision, I'll just be careful when charging, so in case something goes wrong (probably very unlikely), I won't burn house down, but I'm using phone all the time so would notice something wrong. 3c tools has recording option, ill run battery temp during fast charge, just to see how hot it gets, it gets warm to touch, but thats normal.
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The part that bugs me is the lack of details for sure! Samsung is causing a lot of the confusion and hype themselves by not coming out with exactly what the problem is and exactly which units are affected. If it was simply a "Bad Battery" supplied to one manufacturing plant for example, then it would be easy to isolate the effected units. A simple webpage could be set up to check your Serial number and see if it is an effected unit or not. This would save a TON of unnecessary returns and would have reduced the impact of the recall greatly.
The fact that they didn't do this and just did a global recall could lead one to believe the problem is actually bigger than they are letting on. If say only 100K units were effected by a bad supply of batteries, why would a company do a global recall and possibly take back 2.4 million units if not needed? If this wasn't a design flaw and they are just going to send out new units manufactured in China for example, then I already have one of those with no issues so why should I get another one that could have some issue I don't have now? I used China as an example since some reports say that the China units were not effected.
Now if there is going to be a design change to incorporate a protection system so 3rd party charges could not damage the device or something like that, then I would mostly likely want to get a new unit. Come on Samsung, release the actual issue and what exactly you are doing to correct it!
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In this day and age it is more prudent to do a total recall. It would cost them far more in lawsuits if harm came to even just a few persons worldwide. What if one of these phones caught fire on an international flight and it could be proven that this phone was the cause? Right there everyone on that plane would have cause to sue, plus the affected airline. Also the brand could be ruined forever as people wouldn't trust the product anymore. It's too risky for them. I'm getting a $25.00 gift card or credit in addition to the free stuff I've already received. Plus, I don't have to give up use of my phone, I just turn it in when the new one arrives! Hell, I might even get Samsung/T-Mobile to pay for the new fire extinguisher I bought and keep next to my pillow to ease me into slumber at night, IDK, LOL!
Android central's article said it was bad batteries, the ones from China are okay. All others are questionable.
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It's due to people using 3rd party chargers instead of the OEM chargers that came with the phone. That's what a T-Mobile rep said when I talked to him on the phone.
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I'm with you on this, I've been digging through the nets to find out the possible cause of the few burnt phones and I've wondered if it was the USB-C issue, coupled with crappy aftermarket chargers and crappy aftermarket cables that are really causing the issue. My phone has barely been warm in the last 2 weeks or so even while playing some games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cd2WIxKRDk a good explanation
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Personally I don't believe new units could be redesigned, produced and shipped for replacement in 2 weeks and of course there is upcoming China launch, uninterrupted. Which makes me to believe only one factory made some faulty units and it seems to be Korean one. I also lean to believe World recall was more of PR gesture " we messed up, but we fixed it, so return it for full refund, or get replacement, whatever makes you happy", than necessity. I'm actually surprised Samsung went extra mile, at huge cost, to fix this, they didn't strike me before as so consumer oriented company. I like my N7 as much as I did before, it works great and until I get all data to make informed decision, I'll just be careful when charging, so in case something goes wrong (probably very unlikely), I won't burn house down, but I'm using phone all the time so would notice something wrong. 3c tools has recording option, ill run battery temp during fast charge, just to see how hot it gets, it gets warm to touch, but thats normal.
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It is very likely that Samsung felt pressure from US providers and had to issue replacement program. Some European countries are not so lucky, for now at least. They halted sales but no clear what next: replacement, repair, software update?
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The note 7. What a failure for Samsung. Economically and their reputation. But who's really to blame. Battery manufactures are spotty at best for any electronics manufacture. Its just how that gamble works in the battery game. There are no real reliable sources. That's why there are most likely 6 18650 battery cells in your older laptop, made by Sony, Samsung, or LG. Each cell is 4.2 volts when fully charged. Wired in series, this equals 25.2 volts. Each cell has a minimum of 3 volts, or 18 volts in series. Which means your battery pack can operate from roughly 18-25volts. Your charger is a 19 volt charger. Meaning when they designed your laptop, they did so keeping in mind on average of 1 out of 6 of your cells has had a manufacturing catastrophic failure. But the battery pack will still work. Why do you think they die so fast and their capacities diminish? Now Samsung releases millions of cell phones with non-removable battery covers, forcing users to purchase new phones instead of batteries, it's like they where asking for a 19 billion dollar loss, because they can't point fingers at anyone but themselves, knowing the battery market is as it is today. I don't feel sorry for them for going cheap and trying to copy apple. We are fortunate we didn't see this happen sooner, although we all take today's technologies for granted and expect miracles from countries that cannot keep up to our capitalist demand, like legitimate batteries.
Thing is Samsung isn't the first to do sealed in batteries and this isnt their first phone with a sealed in battery (see S6, S6edge, S6edge+, Note5, S7. S7edge). Making the statement that they were asking for it by sealing in batteries is an over simplification when you consider all the phones that have sealed batteries and all the tablets that have always had sealed batteries.
Also what does it have to do with "keeping up with our capitalist demands". South Korea where Samsung is based is in fact a capitalist country, maybe you are mistaking it for socialist state like North Korea.
If anything it is a failure of QA on their end (opting to test everything in house, which is likely to cut cost).
I don't see a reliable way of waterproofing with a removable battery. The construction of the Sim tray with a water leak sticker right below it is a dead give away.
Half the people couldn't even click all the back fasteners on a phone anyways.
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Thing is Samsung isn't the first to do sealed in batteries and this isnt their first phone with a sealed in battery (see S6, S6edge, S6edge+, Note5, S7. S7edge). Making the statement that they were asking for it by sealing in batteries is an over simplification when you consider all the phones that have sealed batteries and all the tablets that have always had sealed batteries.
Also what does it have to do with "keeping up with our capitalist demands". South Korea where Samsung is based is in fact a capitalist country, maybe you are mistaking it for socialist state like North Korea.
If anything it is a failure of QA on their end (opting to test everything in house, which is likely to cut cost).
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Hey guy. Whats the intelligence behind sealed back covers. Profit. So when your battery goes out, you have to replace the phone not the battery. Defend samsung some more, South korea is currently suing samsung. Samsung Made this stupid decision. They could have pointed the finger at the battery manufacture and avoided the whole thing. But they had to seal it, resulting in a 19 billion dollar loss.
I don't care if it's the first, or last phone with a sealed battery cover, NONE of them should have it. Period.
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I don't see a reliable way of waterproofing with a removable battery. The construction of the Sim tray with a water leak sticker right below it is a dead give away.
Half the people couldn't even click all the back fasteners on a phone anyways.
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The S5 was water resistant and has a removable battery.
Its 3 generation's old now so I would think the technology has gotten better since then as well
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Hey guy. Whats the intelligence behind sealed back covers. Profit. So when your battery goes out, you have to replace the phone not the battery. Defend samsung some more, South korea is currently suing samsung. Samsung Made this stupid decision. They could have pointed the finger at the battery manufacture and avoided the whole thing. But they had to seal it, resulting in a 19 billion dollar loss.
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Thanks for not addressing every other phone with a sealed battery. Your point is already flawed.
And if you think every decision made about a device isn't based around return on investment then you are lost.
You guys come in armchair quarterbacking this and cant think outside of a pretty small box to even have a logical discussion.
Also love profound statement of Company X did this to save money/profit, what a company did something in an attempt to make money?!
Lol defend samsung? Did you not see my last statement about how they screwed up by using internal QA or is your confirmation bais not allowing you to acknowledge that?
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The S5 was water resistant and has a removable battery.
Its 3 generation's old now so I would think the technology has gotten better since then as well
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If you read his post fully it says he doesnt see a reliable way of water proofing. Thing is the s5 had its fair share of unhappy users that utilized the water resistance only to realize they didn't secure one of the covers completely or the back wasnt fully closed. Then since water resistance doesnt negate water damage as a no no for insurance claims you had a lot of unhappy customers.
That being said you can't really think the resistance to ingress of moisture is better on the s5 than it is on s7.
The technology did improve, do you remember the design sacrifices for water proofing an s5? Physical buttons, port covers, what good is that in the event of an accident unless you always have them plugged.
Im not saying samsung is perfect but lets at least be objective when we discuss this.
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If you read his post fully it says he doesnt see a reliable way of water proofing. Thing is the s5 had its fair share of unhappy users that utilized the water resistance only to realize they didn't secure one of the covers completely or the back wasnt fully closed. Then since water resistance doesnt negate water damage as a no no for insurance claims you had a lot of unhappy customers.
That being said you can't really think the resistance to ingress of moisture is better on the s5 than it is on s7.
The technology did improve, do you remember the design sacrifices for water proofing an s5? Physical buttons, port covers, what good is that in the event of an accident unless you always have them plugged.
Im not saying samsung is perfect but lets at least be objective when we discuss this.
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Unreliable due to user error does not count, unreliable due to poor design and engineering is a different matter entirely.
Yes the ports all being covered was not exactly user friendly thats for sure.
And no of course I certainly would not expect the S5 to be better in regards to water resistance or anything else for tbat matter lol
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As an engineer we are taught to design for everything, including user error. An easy and repeated user error is called an engineering design flaw.
I am reminded of a tooth paste tube story where they changed the cap to be the pop off type instead of the screw off type. this is of course a better design as the pop top stays on the tube and is quicker than having to screw and unscrew the top each time. But consumers complained about a broken cap because they couldn't unscrew it. The designers did not say "stupid consumers" they said "bad design"
Not saying this is best for society, it limits progression, but its just the reality.
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As an engineer we are taught to design for everything, including user error. An easy and repeated user error is called an engineering design flaw.
I am reminded of a tooth paste tube story where they changed the cap to be the pop off type instead of the screw off type. this is of course a better design as the pop top stays on the tube and is quicker than having to screw and unscrew the top each time. But consumers complained about a broken cap because they couldn't unscrew it. The designers did not say "stupid consumers" they said "bad design"
Not saying this is best for society, it limits progression, but its just the reality.
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I beleive the layman's term is idiot proofing. Which from my experience is impossible as there is always one idiot who can find way to screw up even the best design or instructions lol
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I beleive the layman's term is idiot proofing. Which from my experience is impossible as there is always one idiot who can find way to screw up even the best design or instructions lol
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Agreed, no matter how much time i spend designing something, and thinking its idiot proof, Somebody somehow always finds a way......
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Thanks for not addressing every other phone with a sealed battery. Your point is already flawed.
And if you think every decision made about a device isn't based around return on investment then you are lost.
You guys come in armchair quarterbacking this and cant think outside of a pretty small box to even have a logical discussion.
Also love profound statement of Company X did this to save money/profit, what a company did something in an attempt to make money?!
Lol defend samsung? Did you not see my last statement about how they screwed up by using internal QA or is your confirmation bais not allowing you to acknowledge that?
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Now it looks like Samsung will have to defend itself. There being sued for this by the South Korean people. Look at the end of the day, I don't work for any of them so I don't really give a damn. I'm just talking out of my a$$ to rant sorry. You can delete this thread if you want.
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Now it looks like Samsung will have to defend itself. There being sued for this by the South Korean people. Look at the end of the day, I don't work for any of them so I don't really give a damn. I'm just talking out of my a$$ to rant sorry. You can delete this thread if you want.
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I think they should be sued. I will bet you money you will see a full influx of leaks for the s8 and all the hype and promotions will have everyone forget this mess even happened.
I have never been tied to one brand but Samsung solely because of the Note line has seen the most action for me. This go around I am ditching sammy for the Pixel. I can't act like coming from a Note 7 it doesnt feel like a downgrade but most phones on the market do at this point.
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I think they should be sued. I will bet you money you will see a full influx of leaks for the s8 and all the hype and promotions will have everyone forget this mess even happened.
I have never been tied to one brand but Samsung solely because of the Note line has seen the most action for me. This go around I am ditching sammy for the Pixel. I can't act like coming from a Note 7 it doesnt feel like a downgrade but most phones on the market do at this point.
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You know what's really bad? Besides the fact we are no longer seeing note 7 fires and from the ones that were officially found to be fraudulent or media bull****...i guarantee the note 8 will have people claiming their note 8 catches on fire when that comes out. I promise you there will be and I wouldn't be surprised if that's immediately cancelled without even bothering to realize people fake **** and possibly, though I doubt it, people and companies sabotage other companies.
Point is there defenantly was a design defect and Samsung screwed up but it is strange we aren't hearing about it anymore and I am genuinely concerned about the note 8 and bogus claims.
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force70 said:
I beleive the layman's term is idiot proofing. Which from my experience is impossible as there is always one idiot who can find way to screw up even the best design or instructions lol
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Samsung is a very autocratic company with the top-level brass often over ruling the engineers.
SharpD0g said:
Samsung is a very autocratic company with the top-level brass often over ruling the engineers.
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Which is not unlike many companies lol.
If i had a dollar for everytime Ive had to say "I told you so" to some dumb ass executive who overuled the correct course of action which then caused issues and the company alot of money Id be a rich man.
Anybody got the old .apk of Package Disabler Pro? It updated to prevent us from blocking system updates, and starting tomorrow, Samsung is rolling out updates to limit charging to 60%!
RaymondPJR said:
Anybody got the old .apk of Package Disabler Pro? It updated to prevent us from blocking system updates, and starting tomorrow, Samsung is rolling out updates to limit charging to 60%!
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Guys uninstall the old package pro and download version 6.3 from this website. They disable the urgentfwupdate from version 6.6 which will allow samsung to send updates to our phones.
http://m.apkhere.com/app/com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
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RaymondPJR said:
Anybody got the old .apk of Package Disabler Pro? It updated to prevent us from blocking system updates, and starting tomorrow, Samsung is rolling out updates to limit charging to 60%!
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It arrived yesterday from Amazon and I really like it but as i guess you all know today came an E-mail discontinuing support and Warranty. I have already started a return request but as the day goes on and the watch presents it's uses I am increasingly annoye at what has happened. Why? Because this was the Smart Watch I wanted. Long battery life, easy use and just works. I am concerned , however should the watch go wrong or will I see these watches going for far less in a week or two as the news sinks in. What do people think, should I return it. Looking around the Sony 3 looks the closest but nowhere near on Battery life. Any other options?
Same question ...
I'm in the same boat with Pebble 2 HR ... I really like it so far ... bought it yesterday from Best Buy have one month to return it ... don't know what to do. Will it WORK a year from now, don't care to much about warranty but will it actually have the app available !?
So my answer "I don't know!" I think I'll wait until Jan. and see if anything changes, maybe some more info, let the water clear a little.
I will never buy a FitBit that is 100% .
Other option:
Vector Watch Luna - arriving for me on Monday wife agreed to let me buy it ...
No reason the app would go away or stop working. I guess if Android "O" comes out or the new iOS and is somehow incompatible with the existing app it would break, but other than that... I still love my Pebble Rond and can't find anything out there that comes close to it as far as aesthetics and functionality.
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No reason the app would go away or stop working. I guess if Android "O" comes out or the new iOS and is somehow incompatible with the existing app it would break, but other than that... I still love my Pebble Rond and can't find anything out there that comes close to it as far as aesthetics and functionality.
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Server switch off will quite easily cause a large amount of features to "stop working" so yes return it and get your money back while you can.
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Server switch off will quite easily cause a large amount of features to "stop working" so yes return it and get your money back while you can.
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Aside from downloading new watchfaces, I couldn't name a single feature of the Pebble that would require a centralized server.
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Aside from downloading new watchfaces, I couldn't name a single feature of the Pebble that would require a centralized server.
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^^^^^ Yes. Unlike the Apple watch, the Pebble watch is self-contained. Most apps are local, while many make use of already established APIs (weather, PayPal, etc) that are not controlled by OEM servers.
I'm in the same shoes. I bought my time steel on cyber Monday last week. It works fine since but what if it breaks? I purchased it from amazon so I have a time window to return it but after that I will be alone. I own a pebble classic as well which broke after about 10 months of use and had a warranty replacement. The new one I had is actually working better then the old one which broke. I can easily get 7 days of battery life out of my pebble classic. My only issue is what if my new time steal breaks after 10 months? Or they just shut the servers as other people suggested. The problem is I do love my pebbles but as the future is uncertain maybe time to change to a more reliable future proof brand.
I tried to find a good alternative like Garmin Forerunner 230 which has similar features but more expensive.
I still haven't decided whether I should send it back or not. I probably get a garmin as well and will compare them.
Timeline, weather and voice recognition are but a few which will die after server switch off was confirmed on pocket now podcast
...Continuing on the other option, Vector Luna arrived on Friday and I'm ditching Pebble.
Although my Pebble 2/HR has a better screen it's way smaller, looks more geeky (for me a plus) it has a HR sensor (was accurate enough despite some bad reviews) and the best of all it has voice reply ( probably defunct soon enough) - on Vector no HR and MIC not as refined apps as Pebble but it has the potential to be the best replacement out there for battery life and functionality. I really hate to charge anything, even my phone , every day ... If FitBit kept Pebble alive I've kept the Pebble over Vector, but given the circumstances I'll return it today. Just my 2 cents based on my experience with both.
got my pts on saturday. I love it! before this I've had 2 microsoft bands and a garmin fenix hr.
I've found the pebble more informative and easier to wear to the extent it's far better as a daily driver... sports functions remain better served by a sports band and I'll put that on when I put my sports gear on.
wife has 2 pebbles and a moto 36- 2nd gen and is very attached to the pebbles too.
wish I'd tried one earlier tbh.
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Timeline, weather and voice recognition are but a few which will die after server switch off was confirmed on pocket now podcast
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Link? None of that makes sense, I think yo'ure confusing things. Weather uses a different server, and timeline doesn't use a server at all.
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Link? None of that makes sense, I think yo'ure confusing things. Weather uses a different server, and timeline doesn't use a server at all.
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https://forums.pebble.com/t/what-functions-are-server-dependant/26703
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https://forums.pebble.com/t/what-functions-are-server-dependant/26703
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Hmph. That's disappointing.
Timeline will continue to work for calendar reminders as those are pulled from your phone and those events are not stored on Pebble's servers. However the weather/sunrise pins will probably stop working. Any other app that Pebble created that might push pins to your timeline will probably also stop working.
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I got a Luna as well as a replacement of the time steel but it does not vibrate with notifications only with incoming calls. All the notifications enabled and the vibration is on. Anyone who went for the luna route have this issue?
I recently replaced my Pebble classic, and at the same time bought my wife one for Christmas. I then Found the news that pebble had sold out to fitsh*t and all warranty and support would cease. Immediately I returned the two new pebbles and bought two different devices. I got the Alcatel GoWatch (actually surprisingly VERY good) and I bought the Mrs a Sony SW3.
I'm gonna miss Pebble, but screw them - they used to be all about their Customers and it seems to me they should up up the creek without a paddle. My advice to everyone is FIND ANOTHER SMART WATCH! There's a lot out there that will beat Pebble hands down, just the battery life that is a pain on other devices.
Fitbit is unbelievable, they just bought Vector too. I just managed to buy a Vector luna over the xmas season from John Lewis for a £100 cheaper and now they been bought by fitbit as well as pebble. At least they don't stop the warranty and support immediately. I cannot believe how unlucky I am.
Server switch off, or just its removal of user-base results in not being able to 'reboot' your pebble. Your to be downloaded apps, watchfaces etc are neuther on watch itself, your ios phone... only on server, ubder you user account
May be hope...
Ok, Pebble-eers...I being a Pebble fanboy, started snooping around, the day I got the message that Pebble died. If your interested, look up Rebble, sorry, new guy...cant post links yet , its worth a look, the Pebble community is very much alive and well...or, another alternative is Gadgetbridge, although there are some drawbacks.
Wow!
I'm loving my PTS since the first day my kickstarter package arrived and before my Pebble classic was the best gadget I ever had. I'm still lucky with my PTS right now and wearing it every day along with gadgetbridge :good:
It was quite fun to write Watchfaces for Pebble since it's some of Code you've trust everyday