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First case burn out of Nexus 7 in China

I see a thread in China Forum that report Nexus 7 burn out when charge overnight.
I suggest the author of this thread to report local ASUS and claim for free exchange if it is factory defect.
Original thread here (http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1903068351) and you can just check the photos of dead Nexus 7.

Before everyone gets cared, in most cases this has to do with a malfunctioning adapter giving too much power to the tablet.
So I guess he was unlucky with a malfunctioning charger or using a chinese 3th party charger which also explains quite a bit.
In the prictures you see in the link, the problem started at the accu entry which also shows that it had to do with overpowering.
So I suggest to prevent using custom 3th party power adapters or your tablet migth end up like that, still a rare case since the power it had to get should normally already burned away the power cable itself before it even charges the tablet :/
But the problem also might be in the accu itself which means you just can suddely get a burned out tablet yourself
Anyway we'll hear more about it when teher are more cases if there aren't any more cases of burned nexus 7's I guess the problem wasn't that big and just a single fabrication malfunction in the tablet, power adapter or 3th party power adapter.

WOW! What a horrific sight. I really hope this is an isolated case related to a bad home electrical grid.
But since it's the only case, I guess it is.

I'd say the fault is in the battery. I'cant see the charge control IC failing and allowing over voltage/current through to the battery. The SMB 347 claims to have:
Status/fault indicator
Battery/IC thermal protection
Short circuit/UV/OV protection
Charge termination safety timers

I would cry if I woke to my nexus looking like that

Author claim that he use original ASUS Adapter.
Anyway, I advise him to report to local ASUS and investigate the reason. If it is factory fault then he can get the replacement. BUT, I hope it is just isolated case too.
I will follow this thread since I am Taiwanese and can read that thread.
QUOTE=seahorsepip;32456727]Before everyone gets cared, in most cases this has to do with a malfunctioning adapter giving too much power to the tablet.
So I guess he was unlucky with a malfunctioning charger or using a chinese 3th party charger which also explains quite a bit.
In the prictures you see in the link, the problem started at the accu entry which also shows that it had to do with overpowering.
So I suggest to prevent using custom 3th party power adapters or your tablet migth end up like that, still a rare case since the power it had to get should normally already burned away the power cable itself before it even charges the tablet :/
But the problem also might be in the accu itself which means you just can suddely get a burned out tablet yourself
Anyway we'll hear more about it when teher are more cases if there aren't any more cases of burned nexus 7's I guess the problem wasn't that big and just a single fabrication malfunction in the tablet, power adapter or 3th party power adapter.[/QUOTE]

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Anyone willing to test if the nexus 7 ends up the same if you put it into the microwave?

seahorsepip said:
Anyone willing to test if the nexus 7 ends up the same if you put it into the microwave?
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I will soon as I get done putting it through the dousing it with kerosene, setting it on fire and having it wrestle a bear test.

Was the tablet rooted and severely overclocked? That could cause overheating too.

Too much OC!!!

Scary images no doubt
this could be related to those who have had there nexus 7 make a hissing sound then stop Functioning.. So i wonder if this is just the first unlucky person..I so hope its isolated case. Nobody Needs a fire in there home.. I never charge my devices over night never leave any type of electronics that use a transformer cable plugged in...
I hope that asus steps up and replaces this and checks to insure this is not going to happen to someone else...

Buy a Nexus 7, get a smoke-detector free? Lol!
I shouldn't be kidding around. I just bought a Nexus 7 last week.

Nate2 said:
Was the tablet rooted and severely overclocked? That could cause overheating too.
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Probably just rooted. This happens to most people who root. That's why I jailbroke mine instead.

jcsugrue said:
Probably just rooted. This happens to most people who root.
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Yeah whatever

My 3rd nexus 7 had something similar happen to it!
Except, mine got really hot, and died but it didn't melt!

jcsugrue said:
Probably just rooted. This happens to most people who root. That's why I jailbroke mine instead.
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Ah, makes sense. Good thing I didn't root mine, I simply unlocked with iTunes on Linux
In all seriousness though, I too hope this is isolated. Would rather not want my Nexus 7 to inevitably do this at some point...

I thiks it's the same like the story with S3 - burned in the microwave to make a scandal.

Followup: Asus China promise to replace the unit
The author said that China Asus has promised to replace one new N7 within 2 weeks. ASUS mau investigate this damaged unit to find out the fact.

Oh dear, I don't know what Id do if I woke up to that, that is horrific.
I hope this is isolated and doesn't start happening to others.
Also I would like to know the setup of his tab, Overclock, Root, What apps he was using, how he was using his tab, how he was charging it, was his wall port dirty (not actual dirt the term "Dirt") etc

Might not buy a N7. No QC.

Hi, guys. This is my first post here. I want to tell you my not-an-experience with the Nexus7.
I'm from Chile. That means, the only way I can get a Nexus 7 is by importing it. I've been saving up money for months for it, but now that I finally got it all, I started browsing XDA and Android Central forums.
What I can tell, is that if I buy one, there's a very, very high chance I get a faulty device. I've read people saying they're on their third or fourth device, and still faulty! I won't even be able to return it
I'm just thinking out loud, and was hoping to get some input from a community of N7 owners. Maybe some of you are or were on my same situation.

The people posting about issues on the forums are a very small percentage of sales. For example, if 100 people complain of product issues, but 1 million people have flawless devices who didn't report their flawless experience, it would be safe to say you have a slim chance of getting a defective device.
Thing is though, there is no way of telling exactly how many Nexus 7's were sold total or how many people received flawless devices.

Mine was brought from Australia (so no usable warranty) and was from the first batch but I still don't experience any issues with it.

espionage724 said:
The people posting about issues on the forums are a very small percentage of sales. For example, if 100 people complain of product issues, but 1 million people have flawless devices who didn't report their flawless experience, it would be safe to say you have a slim chance of getting a defective device.
Thing is though, there is no way of telling exactly how many Nexus 7's were sold total or how many people received flawless devices.
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Yeah, you're right. There are probably less faulty products going around than what I think, but it's also true that there are more faulty devices going around tnat they should!
Anyway, i'm looking into buying the 32Gb without 3g model. Those are new, so manufacture problems should be addressed by now, right?

Honestly what you're seeing is people with tech OCD who are obsessed with getting an absolutely pristine perfect nexus.
I have to admit, I was one of those people at one point. I obsessed about left-side screen lift and extremely minor backlight bleed. I returned many devices and spent a lot of time without my tablet because of it. What I've come to realize is that the way ASUS designs the tablet is that very minor raising of the left-side of the screen is inevitable and there's no such thing (in my opinion) as a Nexus where this doesn't exist, it's pretty much part of the design of the nexus. I think that early models had a much more significant problem in this regard. Every single C90 Nexus that I've ever seen/touched the left side was slightly raised, if only a little tiny tiny bit, compared to the right.
Does this change how you use the tablet day to day, or anything like that? No. The only time it comes into play is when you focus solely on trying to identify screen lift. It's not something I would really worry about. Seriously, I went through like 5 16GB's and 3 32GB's before I came to this conclusion. I've had a much better experience after I've simply stopped obsessing about screen lift or any small little problem that I find and just use the tablet. The 32gb I ended up keeping has the screen lift.. but as I said I've never SEEN a C90 model that doesn't, I think this is due to lack of screws on the left hand side, to prevent cases of SERIOUS screen lift. It also has very very minor backlight bleeding at the top of the screen on full brightness, and (something that seems common to ALL 32gbs) you get pretty noticeable ripple of the LCD on the left side when slight-medium pressure is applied. Couple weeks ago this would have warranted a return... but to be honest I don't notice ANY of these in regular use. The only time it's an issue is when I'm actively looking for them!

Copitox said:
Hi, guys. This is my first post here. I want to tell you my not-an-experience with the Nexus7.
I'm from Chile. That means, the only way I can get a Nexus 7 is by importing it. I've been saving up money for months for it, but now that I finally got it all, I started browsing XDA and Android Central forums.
What I can tell, is that if I buy one, there's a very, very high chance I get a faulty device. I've read people saying they're on their third or fourth device, and still faulty! I won't even be able to return it
I'm just thinking out loud, and was hoping to get some input from a community of N7 owners. Maybe some of you are or were on my same situation.
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Don't buy to much into the whine tendency that seems to be going around on the net about these. I've bought 2 and they were both good. Both from walmart. I'm not saying the rumors are false I'm just saying that I don't think the "failure" rate is worth worrying about more than anything else you may buy at the store.

Small squishy screen lift that you have to hunt for to find does not make your device faulty. Mine has pretty moderate screen lift and I hardly notice it, does not hamper my enjoyment of the device at all.

From everything we know, the 32GB model is exactly the same electronics except a different (bigger) memory chip.
That is true all the way back to the 8GB models - just different memory, allowing for minor engineering changes like in C70, C80, and C90 models.
The White 8GB models handed out at the show did have some minor differences in things like Bluetooth.

If there's no warranty don't buy the N7.
I'm on my 3rd device and I still have to warranty it again. All had different critical issues, such as a row of dead pixels or the speaker not working.
Save a bit more money and buy a device you can warranty easily in your own country.
From your post it sounds like you should not risk the money you had to save up.

WarbyParker said:
If there's no warranty don't buy the N7.
I'm on my 3rd device and I still have to warranty it again. All had different critical issues, such as a row of dead pixels or the speaker not working.
Save a bit more money and buy a device you can warranty easily in your own country.
From your post it sounds like you should not risk the money you had to save up.
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i would have to agree with this post. I also think the issues are more then 1 in a million as said above . There is no real way to tell what that ratio is. But its known that if you get a faulty device with screen being spongy and do NOT fix or exchange it . The screen will break its just a matter of when. If its a slight screen lift (what most have)You should be fine. The true defect of the screen being spongy is much more rare then the screen lift issue that just makes it a bit raised or bezel warped.
I would say its not worth the risk of getting the issue if you Cant send it back.
I had two defective devices one with bad screen spongy issue . One came where screen cracked on first touch(VERY Rare and not related to any of the so called issues )
My biggest issue is google play and how they handle refunds it took me over a month on the second device and near two on the first. I did buy a 3rd even thou i said I WOULD not do so. It was perfect from walmart. Just yesterday exchanged it for a perfect 32 gb version..
yes this is a long post. NO IM NOT Complaining just telling you your chances of not having a issue is like tossing dice.. Are you a Gambler???

Copitox said:
Hi, guys. This is my first post here. I want to tell you my not-an-experience with the Nexus7.
I'm from Chile. That means, the only way I can get a Nexus 7 is by importing it. I've been saving up money for months for it, but now that I finally got it all, I started browsing XDA and Android Central forums.
What I can tell, is that if I buy one, there's a very, very high chance I get a faulty device. I've read people saying they're on their third or fourth device, and still faulty! I won't even be able to return it
I'm just thinking out loud, and was hoping to get some input from a community of N7 owners. Maybe some of you are or were on my same situation.
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Hey!
I am one of the proud N7 owners, too, and I might share my own experience: I bought my N7 from one of the first production charges directly at Google, and I have to admit that the first device I got had a pixel flickering after unlocking. It made the devices really pretty useless, so I returned it and got the second one, which I still own, because it is just pure perfection What I think and already read is that the production faults are getting less frequent the newer the device is. So the chance to get a "perfect" N7 today is very high compared to the frequency of faults in the first production charges. I can advice you to order it anyway, it is totally worth the effort if you, against all good will, get a damaged device. Also the returning costs + the "normal" price are still much lower than the costs for other tablets.
Have a good day, and good luck with your N7!

I keep hearing in different forums about how the faulty devices might be a very small fraction, but the same people also mention they are on their second or third device like a normal thing. I mean, just in this thread there are already two persons on their third device!
How is this not a scandal yet?

ericdjobs said:
Honestly what you're seeing is people with tech OCD who are obsessed with getting an absolutely pristine perfect nexus.
I have to admit, I was one of those people at one point. I obsessed about left-side screen lift and extremely minor backlight bleed. I returned many devices and spent a lot of time without my tablet because of it. What I've come to realize is that the way ASUS designs the tablet is that very minor raising of the left-side of the screen is inevitable and there's no such thing (in my opinion) as a Nexus where this doesn't exist, it's pretty much part of the design of the nexus. I think that early models had a much more significant problem in this regard. Every single C90 Nexus that I've ever seen/touched the left side was slightly raised, if only a little tiny tiny bit, compared to the right.
Does this change how you use the tablet day to day, or anything like that? No. The only time it comes into play is when you focus solely on trying to identify screen lift. It's not something I would really worry about. Seriously, I went through like 5 16GB's and 3 32GB's before I came to this conclusion. I've had a much better experience after I've simply stopped obsessing about screen lift or any small little problem that I find and just use the tablet. The 32gb I ended up keeping has the screen lift.. but as I said I've never SEEN a C90 model that doesn't, I think this is due to lack of screws on the left hand side, to prevent cases of SERIOUS screen lift. It also has very very minor backlight bleeding at the top of the screen on full brightness, and (something that seems common to ALL 32gbs) you get pretty noticeable ripple of the LCD on the left side when slight-medium pressure is applied. Couple weeks ago this would have warranted a return... but to be honest I don't notice ANY of these in regular use. The only time it's an issue is when I'm actively looking for them!
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It always makes me smile when I see a post like this.
Someone finally gives up and starts justifying the poor QC by insinuating that it is intentionally "part of the design".
That's a bunch of bull ****.
If that is ASUS' design teams goal, then they should be fired (they probably should be fired anyway..)
Honestly, I've bought a ton of Android devices, and the worst of the lot when it comes to QC are the Nexus devices. It's probably due to the short production schedules and low budgets they allot to make them since they're practically sold at cost. Whatever the driving factor, the truth is I've had way more issues with Nexus products than any others. Every single time I buy a Nexus device I have to exchange it (usually multiple times) before I end up with one that minimizes the flaws.
If some people want to run around pretending they're supposed to be like that, great for them - but I'm not putting blinders on to reality to make myself feel better about having a faulty product or blame it on some type of OCD.
I got very lucky that I only had to exchange my Nexus 7 once before getting one that I thought was almost perfect. Sure enough, a week or two later and here comes the lower left-hand side light bleed.. smh
But to act like you should be OK with it because "that's the way it's supposed to be" is just lying to yourself to calm your perceived "OCD" which is really just wanting a product that performs as they claim it does. I don't remember seeing the Nexus 7 specs including "light bleed" or "slightly raised screen and missing screws for greater product life". I do remember reading about it's "amazing" HD screen...

ericdjobs said:
Honestly what you're seeing is people with tech OCD who are obsessed with getting an absolutely pristine perfect nexus.
I have to admit, I was one of those people at one point. I obsessed about left-side screen lift and extremely minor backlight bleed. I returned many devices and spent a lot of time without my tablet because of it. What I've come to realize is that the way ASUS designs the tablet is that very minor raising of the left-side of the screen is inevitable and there's no such thing (in my opinion) as a Nexus where this doesn't exist, it's pretty much part of the design of the nexus. I think that early models had a much more significant problem in this regard. Every single C90 Nexus that I've ever seen/touched the left side was slightly raised, if only a little tiny tiny bit, compared to the right.
Does this change how you use the tablet day to day, or anything like that? No. The only time it comes into play is when you focus solely on trying to identify screen lift. It's not something I would really worry about. Seriously, I went through like 5 16GB's and 3 32GB's before I came to this conclusion. I've had a much better experience after I've simply stopped obsessing about screen lift or any small little problem that I find and just use the tablet. The 32gb I ended up keeping has the screen lift.. but as I said I've never SEEN a C90 model that doesn't, I think this is due to lack of screws on the left hand side, to prevent cases of SERIOUS screen lift. It also has very very minor backlight bleeding at the top of the screen on full brightness, and (something that seems common to ALL 32gbs) you get pretty noticeable ripple of the LCD on the left side when slight-medium pressure is applied. Couple weeks ago this would have warranted a return... but to be honest I don't notice ANY of these in regular use. The only time it's an issue is when I'm actively looking for them!
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I'm one of those who have this tech OCD problem, and was apprehensive when I was considering buying the Nexus 7. I bought it anyway, and it was perfect from day one, as I guess millions of others were.
As has already been said, there will always be a percentage of bad/faulty products, and any received by XDA members will be heard loud and clear on these forums.

ingenious247 said:
It always makes me smile when I see a post like this.
Someone finally gives up and starts justifying the poor QC by insinuating that it is intentionally "part of the design".
That's a bunch of bull ****.
If that is ASUS' design teams goal, then they should be fired (they probably should be fired anyway..)
Honestly, I've bought a ton of Android devices, and the worst of the lot when it comes to QC are the Nexus devices. It's probably due to the short production schedules and low budgets they allot to make them since they're practically sold at cost. Whatever the driving factor, the truth is I've had way more issues with Nexus products than any others. Every single time I buy a Nexus device I have to exchange it (usually multiple times) before I end up with one that minimizes the flaws.
If some people want to run around pretending they're supposed to be like that, great for them - but I'm not putting blinders on to reality to make myself feel better about having a faulty product or blame it on some type of OCD.
I got very lucky that I only had to exchange my Nexus 7 once before getting one that I thought was almost perfect. Sure enough, a week or two later and here comes the lower left-hand side light bleed.. smh
But to act like you should be OK with it because "that's the way it's supposed to be" is just lying to yourself to calm your perceived "OCD" which is really just wanting a product that performs as they claim it does. I don't remember seeing the Nexus 7 specs including "light bleed" or "slightly raised screen and missing screws for greater product life". I do remember reading about it's "amazing" HD screen...
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It might not be in the description of the device, but every company has their faults as these devices and the likes are mass produced. It is unavoidable situation, just some companies are less likely to have faulty units.
I agree that it seems more issues are with Nexus devices, but it is the dice you roll for other things you like, preferably Vanilla Android and faster updates.
I have light bleed in the left hand corner.....I just deal with it. Hardly notice it anymore.
If you want everything perfect, Godspeed....you will have quite an interesting busy life, lol!
Sent from a galaxy far away!

Asus QC friggin' sucks. I own a Transformer Prime and a Nexus 7, and they're both crappy hardware wise. I had to use crazy glue to get "fix" the screen lift on my N7.
With that said, Nexus devices are the best. The software is second to none, is supported directly from Google, and is snappy and responsive. It's worth the tradeoff, IMO.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

nyijedi said:
Asus QC friggin' sucks.
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Lets not blame ASUS as a whole for bad QC. I own a sound card and DVD burner from them, and they are truly flawless (or at least don't show any obvious defects, with months of use).

I got my device a week early from ebuyer.com in the UK. No problems at all. As always, those with problems report them and those with no problems have no need - so are therefore less vocal. Go ahead and buy one, unless you have other financial problems. Techno gadgets are not the most important thing to spend money on.

If I didnt have an option to return a possibly faulty Nexus (or anything) which has a chance of arriving with a fault or developing a fault, then I would not buy it myself...not unless I was prepared to possibly throw the money away.
Far from being OCD, I was happy with my Nexus 7, but after 2 weeks of hardly having used it, I heard a noise as I was pressing the screen. I tracked the noise down to significant screen lift on the left side. I then read up on it and opened the back and found 2 screws missing on the left side and the other 2 loose. I tightened the loose two and tested it again. It was better, but there was visible screen rippling when I pressed the display on the left side. I was not happy and realised it was going to fail again and that perhaps the screen would crack in the end. I was (and am) seriously unimpressed that Asus are obviously aware of this issue and have tried to get around it rather than fix it properly.
I'm waiting for another model where they've fixed this. I dont buy items to put up with stuff. IF I buy a Nexus 7 again, then I will get it from a bricks and mortart store where I can check it first and where I can take it back if need be.

Tell ya what, you can buy my Nexus 7 16GB, which is flawless, for $200+shipping and I'll go out and buy myself a 32GB. Win-win!

Third Party DIY Nexus 10 Internal Battery Replace & Review

Apologies in advance, I could not post proper links for this review due to my low post count.
Background
I ordered a Nexus 10 on November 20th, 2012. Initially, I was pleased by the battery life (~6.5 hours). Probably a bit like the "Boiling Frog" metaphor, the battery life degraded and I didn't notice it. I began to notice the battery degradation recently when my tablet began doing the 0% battery shutdown at ~30%.
First thing I did was get on the phone with Google, to see if I could get them to warranty the battery. Being a couple of months out of warranty, I wasn't expecting it to work, but it couldn't hurt. Denied. So, I called Samsung. After two hours and 8 different technical support phone numbers, they couldn't recognize my tablet serial number. I'm guessing it was unrecognized (which is no excuse, by the way) because I bought it on the Google Play Store. Besides all that, they didn't recognize the product name, kept calling it strange stuff like Nexus 10.1 or Nexus Note. They told me they would research and return my call at a later time.
My Nexus 10 is a daily driver with a minimum of 3 hours of use a day and often over 6. After impatiently waiting a few days, I began to panic. I began to believe that I had paid ~$500 for a device that, after a few more cells died, was going to be an expensive brick. I did some research and could find NO reviews on the NewPower99 battery kit, and since I felt that my options were relatively few, I decided to take the plunge.
Kit Contents and Cost
Ordered from Amazon for $75.41 (shipping and taxes included)
1 Cameron Sino 9000 mAh 33.3Wh Lithium-Polymer Battery Pack
One tiny screw screwdriver
Two tiny plastic prying tools
One plastic video disk (Not sure what it does, they special players can spin it fast and a video will play(!!??))
The Replacement and Pitfalls
Rather than using the included plastic video disk, I searched YouTube until I found the video: NewPower99 by NewLife2OldStuff. It's a great primer for this battery replacement, but there are a few parts where the disassembler's chubby fingers get in the way of disconnecting connectors. I suggest watching a few other Nexus 10 teardown videos prior to the actual teardown.
Prior to this, I had not attempted any mobile device disassembly/assembly. I did break a little insulation on the video card connector on the main board but this is due to me only watching the NewPower99 video and missing a detail (pull the display cable rather than flip the connector). Also due to how delicate the internals are, I did not push the display connector in far enough, which led to the display power being spotty. So, I had to redisassemble the tablet a few days later and reconnect it. Had I done more research and been a bit more patient, I'm sure the replacement would have been flawless.
The aftermath
My tablet has not yet exploded. As a matter of fact, one week in, I'm amazed. I've fell back in love with my tablet. Since the battery replacement, I usually don't need to charge until the end of the day. I run a conservative brightness on the display and, of course, that helps. Also, while I've done no metrics, I believe I've seen an unintended improvement: the charge time has improved. It was not unusual for me to plugin during sleep and still not have a full charge in the morning, which I haven't seen happen since battery replacement.
At a later time, I intend to respond to this post with an unscientific update on the battery's life. If the battery life stays relatively the same, I wouldn't really mind yearly replacement at this battery's warranty limitation and probably expected minimum life. Small price to pay for great battery life and a very underrated tablet.
Also, Samsung did, finally, return my support call a few days ago but I never called back. Don't call me, I'll call you .

Light Statistics (screenshots below)
~11:46 battery time
~6:45 display on time (top battery user)
~1:45 RetroArch (runner up top battery user)
These aren't really shabby for this tablet. Non-scientifically: the display was at ~25% brightness (in-house usage) >95% of the time, and never went below that. ~3-5% of the time the display was 100% (outdoors).
Program usage was an ordinary day of tablet use.

Not going to lie this is quite an informative post since the battery went bad over the course of a year later... I don't use my tablet as much as I first used to, but with all this android tech talk and new phones coming out at this time I use it more than I normally have (and also for the room 2 love that game!). I will definitely subscribe to this post so I have it handy if/when my battery starts doing the same thing as well in due time.

Thanks for this thread. My tablet has been going to 0% when it reaches 15%. So I've been looking to get a replacement battery. Cheers mate.

Avuton Olrich said:
Besides all that, they didn't recognize the product name, kept calling it strange stuff like Nexus 10.1 or Nexus Note.
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Next time, give them the model #. Samsung GT-P8110

thanks for posting this. is it better to buy the cameron battery from amazon or thru this link: http://www.cameronsinobattery.com/tienda/prodList.asp?idcategory=32&curPage=3&sortField=description
and how about newpower99.com is it a reliable/legit seller?

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thanks for posting this. is it better to buy the cameron battery from amazon or thru this link: http://www.cameronsinobattery.com/tienda/prodList.asp?idcategory=32&curPage=3&sortField=description
and how about newpower99.com is it a reliable/legit seller?
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Wow, that's an impressive price and I definitely would have taken it from there. I can't really speak about any company's reliability in general but the newpower99 thing worked well in my case. The only thing I'd have to say about getting it directly from cameroninobattery.com is finding those tiny tools; it shouldn't be that difficult at all (definitely worth the $50 to find them!). Still loving the battery life. :good:

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E-shop with the battery available?
Just for the record, e-shops (below) don't seem to have the battery in stock these days, but there are many sold at e-bay if one searches SP3496A8H (the part number).
* http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Nexus-GT-P8110-Replacement-Installation/dp/B00F3T9SYC (out of stock)
* http://www.newpower99.com/Google_Nexus10_Battery_Replacement_Kit_p/google-nexus-10.htm (says available, but I ordered and got money back with they explanation they don't have those in stock)
* http://www.cameronsinobattery.com/1435-samsung-gt-p8110-gtp8110-ha32arb-google-nexus-1/ (out of stock)

I am extremely disappointed by my options to keep my nexus 10 going strong. I love the tablet... w/ its current screen resolution i really have NO reason to upgrade to a new device... however right now NO ONE carries this part. If google is NOT going to support having replaceable batteries, and there are no 3rd party options, we are all simply buying disposable electronics... its ridiculous.
Right now it is out of stock everywhere and there are 2 shady listings on ebay. Extremely disapointed with this.

mr_fro2000 said:
I am extremely disappointed by my options to keep my nexus 10 going strong. I love the tablet... w/ its current screen resolution i really have NO reason to upgrade to a new device... however right now NO ONE carries this part. If google is NOT going to support having replaceable batteries, and there are no 3rd party options, we are all simply buying disposable electronics... its ridiculous.
Right now it is out of stock everywhere and there are 2 shady listings on eBay. Extremely disappointed with this.
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I am going through this right now! I am not sure if I should buy from the sketchy eBay listings or what. I tried NewPower99 but claim to have none in stock due to a production issue. It is almost as if Samsung went after the 3rd party that made the battery so they could not sell it. My tablet is out of warranty and I have no idea what to do as its worth nothing to trade in and I don't have the $$$ for a new tablet. If anyone has any suggestions or bought a replacement battery and hasn't used or opened it and would be willing to part with it I may be interested in buying.

CombustLemonz said:
I am going through this right now! I am not sure if I should buy from the sketchy eBay listings or what. I tried NewPower99 but claim to have none in stock due to a production issue. It is almost as if Samsung went after the 3rd party that made the battery so they could not sell it. My tablet is out of warranty and I have no idea what to do as its worth nothing to trade in and I don't have the $$$ for a new tablet. If anyone has any suggestions or bought a replacement battery and hasn't used or opened it and would be willing to part with it I may be interested in buying.
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I am having the same problem. Nobody has the battery. So I finally found something on Alibabba and ordered it straight from china for something like $35 (through a friend's account, so I don't have the details at the moment). I expect it will take at least a month to get here. I hope it works and lasts, cheap batteries rarely work out very well in the long term.... but what choice do I have? This is a $500 tablet that is not that old! It now powers down at 70% battery, usually less than an hour playing a game

I went ahead and ordered the nexus 10 battery off of Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/261555419335?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
I'll let you know my results with it.
EDIT: Will I also need to purchase special tools to install it?

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EDIT: Will I also need to purchase special tools to install it?
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Just a (size 0?) phillips (you can pull off the cover to see the screw size). If it fits one, it'll fit all you need to get it pulled off. :good:

Somewhat offtopic, I might end up getting the new Nexus tablet, regardless. The center of my screen has started getting a brown burn-in color, most visible when the screen is white. Which is quite a shame, this tablet is still plenty peppy for me (it's my fastest development device), and have no other problems with the device at all (the battery still shines). The monitor life was probably accelerated by the high sleep time (10 or 30 minutes, don't remember which one) since it's a development machine I keep it on between compiles so it's there when I need it. :crying:

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I went ahead and ordered the nexus 10 battery off of Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/261555419335?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
I'll let you know my results with it.
EDIT: Will I also need to purchase special tools to install it?
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Have you received and installed the battery? I feel there are less and less options to find one these days.... Let us know thanks!

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Have you received and installed the battery? I feel there are less and less options to find one these days.... Let us know thanks!
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Haven't received it yet. Estimated delivery is October 30th.
When I do get it and after install it, I'll write a full report here for you guys.
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Haven't received it yet. Estimated delivery is October 30th.
When I do get it and after install it, I'll write a full report here for you guys.
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That would be awesome, thanks!

looking for nexus 10 battery replacement in india
hi,
i am also facing the same issue. request you to intimate if you can find one in india?

Anyone bought from here/?? I have just ordered it.. cross my fingers..
http://www.amazon.co.uk/BATTERY-ORIGINAL-SP3496A8H-SAMSUNG-GOOGLE/dp/B00IXODOL2

Technical thread

Right I know there's a lot of people out there who understand phone technology and who understand electronics from what I have understood the reason that these phones are exploding is because the voltage regulator in the phones are reversed this lead comes from the inside I have three friends who work at Samsung. As well my MIT friend who will be nameless owns the device and has stated the same tbings.
So anyone who knows electronics knows that voltage regulators can be fixed normally with proper care and attention to detail it can be fixed. You will notice the inside of the v2 has changed... I have opened both of my devices and have closed them back up. It's not hard to open them up...
i'm pretty sure what happened was samsung is that they were in a rush and they thought they had a fix and they pushed it out
Or they knowingly knew this and kept going.
Calling all technical users all the people who know anything about electronics would understand that doing a simple reverse on this would fix this issue however the scale of this issue has cause so much issues for samsung and it's gonna cost them over twenty one billion dollars ....
I own both the v one and the v two and they are both on t mobile and they are working fine they are both rooted and using TEKHd rom @TEKHD.
I'm also possibly thinking that it could be an issue C-type connector if we look in the past we know that c-type connectors have caused a lot of fires and faulty cables have caused a lotta issues.
As a techie I understand the risks that i'm taking keeping these devices however I know what's going on in the phone and I know possibly how to fix it as long as i'm giving the right directions from samsung and they make their announcement on why these phones are doing what they're doing but everything that I have stated in this post is in fact true.
I'm using s voice as I drive home so when I get home I will fix this post.
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This sounds more like a sabotage than anything else. But the problem is, if the issue really is reversed wires, then theoretically problem should show up the first moment you make it live, not randomly, sometimes weeks after. Also semiconductors have properties where electric current flows one way only, so properly designed voltage regulator would not work at all if wires were crossed, but without schematics it's all academic right now. I tend to believe V1 had issue with battery walls being little crushed due to tight fit, during assembly, which later caused internal short circuit and fire. I can't imagine what the problem with V2 is, since batteries were made by different company and we may never know for sure. But it seems the first V2 reported catching fire, the one on airliner, was grabbed by consumer agency, so maybe they will release some type of report, in next 3 years.

Samsung's failure

The note 7. What a failure for Samsung. Economically and their reputation. But who's really to blame. Battery manufactures are spotty at best for any electronics manufacture. Its just how that gamble works in the battery game. There are no real reliable sources. That's why there are most likely 6 18650 battery cells in your older laptop, made by Sony, Samsung, or LG. Each cell is 4.2 volts when fully charged. Wired in series, this equals 25.2 volts. Each cell has a minimum of 3 volts, or 18 volts in series. Which means your battery pack can operate from roughly 18-25volts. Your charger is a 19 volt charger. Meaning when they designed your laptop, they did so keeping in mind on average of 1 out of 6 of your cells has had a manufacturing catastrophic failure. But the battery pack will still work. Why do you think they die so fast and their capacities diminish? Now Samsung releases millions of cell phones with non-removable battery covers, forcing users to purchase new phones instead of batteries, it's like they where asking for a 19 billion dollar loss, because they can't point fingers at anyone but themselves, knowing the battery market is as it is today. I don't feel sorry for them for going cheap and trying to copy apple. We are fortunate we didn't see this happen sooner, although we all take today's technologies for granted and expect miracles from countries that cannot keep up to our capitalist demand, like legitimate batteries.

Thing is Samsung isn't the first to do sealed in batteries and this isnt their first phone with a sealed in battery (see S6, S6edge, S6edge+, Note5, S7. S7edge). Making the statement that they were asking for it by sealing in batteries is an over simplification when you consider all the phones that have sealed batteries and all the tablets that have always had sealed batteries.
Also what does it have to do with "keeping up with our capitalist demands". South Korea where Samsung is based is in fact a capitalist country, maybe you are mistaking it for socialist state like North Korea.
If anything it is a failure of QA on their end (opting to test everything in house, which is likely to cut cost).

I don't see a reliable way of waterproofing with a removable battery. The construction of the Sim tray with a water leak sticker right below it is a dead give away.
Half the people couldn't even click all the back fasteners on a phone anyways.

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Thing is Samsung isn't the first to do sealed in batteries and this isnt their first phone with a sealed in battery (see S6, S6edge, S6edge+, Note5, S7. S7edge). Making the statement that they were asking for it by sealing in batteries is an over simplification when you consider all the phones that have sealed batteries and all the tablets that have always had sealed batteries.
Also what does it have to do with "keeping up with our capitalist demands". South Korea where Samsung is based is in fact a capitalist country, maybe you are mistaking it for socialist state like North Korea.
If anything it is a failure of QA on their end (opting to test everything in house, which is likely to cut cost).
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Hey guy. Whats the intelligence behind sealed back covers. Profit. So when your battery goes out, you have to replace the phone not the battery. Defend samsung some more, South korea is currently suing samsung. Samsung Made this stupid decision. They could have pointed the finger at the battery manufacture and avoided the whole thing. But they had to seal it, resulting in a 19 billion dollar loss.

I don't care if it's the first, or last phone with a sealed battery cover, NONE of them should have it. Period.

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I don't see a reliable way of waterproofing with a removable battery. The construction of the Sim tray with a water leak sticker right below it is a dead give away.
Half the people couldn't even click all the back fasteners on a phone anyways.
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The S5 was water resistant and has a removable battery.
Its 3 generation's old now so I would think the technology has gotten better since then as well
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boobteg2 said:
Hey guy. Whats the intelligence behind sealed back covers. Profit. So when your battery goes out, you have to replace the phone not the battery. Defend samsung some more, South korea is currently suing samsung. Samsung Made this stupid decision. They could have pointed the finger at the battery manufacture and avoided the whole thing. But they had to seal it, resulting in a 19 billion dollar loss.
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Thanks for not addressing every other phone with a sealed battery. Your point is already flawed.
And if you think every decision made about a device isn't based around return on investment then you are lost.
You guys come in armchair quarterbacking this and cant think outside of a pretty small box to even have a logical discussion.
Also love profound statement of Company X did this to save money/profit, what a company did something in an attempt to make money?!
Lol defend samsung? Did you not see my last statement about how they screwed up by using internal QA or is your confirmation bais not allowing you to acknowledge that?

force70 said:
The S5 was water resistant and has a removable battery.
Its 3 generation's old now so I would think the technology has gotten better since then as well
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If you read his post fully it says he doesnt see a reliable way of water proofing. Thing is the s5 had its fair share of unhappy users that utilized the water resistance only to realize they didn't secure one of the covers completely or the back wasnt fully closed. Then since water resistance doesnt negate water damage as a no no for insurance claims you had a lot of unhappy customers.
That being said you can't really think the resistance to ingress of moisture is better on the s5 than it is on s7.
The technology did improve, do you remember the design sacrifices for water proofing an s5? Physical buttons, port covers, what good is that in the event of an accident unless you always have them plugged.
Im not saying samsung is perfect but lets at least be objective when we discuss this.

pcriz said:
If you read his post fully it says he doesnt see a reliable way of water proofing. Thing is the s5 had its fair share of unhappy users that utilized the water resistance only to realize they didn't secure one of the covers completely or the back wasnt fully closed. Then since water resistance doesnt negate water damage as a no no for insurance claims you had a lot of unhappy customers.
That being said you can't really think the resistance to ingress of moisture is better on the s5 than it is on s7.
The technology did improve, do you remember the design sacrifices for water proofing an s5? Physical buttons, port covers, what good is that in the event of an accident unless you always have them plugged.
Im not saying samsung is perfect but lets at least be objective when we discuss this.
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Unreliable due to user error does not count, unreliable due to poor design and engineering is a different matter entirely.
Yes the ports all being covered was not exactly user friendly thats for sure.
And no of course I certainly would not expect the S5 to be better in regards to water resistance or anything else for tbat matter lol
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As an engineer we are taught to design for everything, including user error. An easy and repeated user error is called an engineering design flaw.
I am reminded of a tooth paste tube story where they changed the cap to be the pop off type instead of the screw off type. this is of course a better design as the pop top stays on the tube and is quicker than having to screw and unscrew the top each time. But consumers complained about a broken cap because they couldn't unscrew it. The designers did not say "stupid consumers" they said "bad design"
Not saying this is best for society, it limits progression, but its just the reality.

de31p5 said:
As an engineer we are taught to design for everything, including user error. An easy and repeated user error is called an engineering design flaw.
I am reminded of a tooth paste tube story where they changed the cap to be the pop off type instead of the screw off type. this is of course a better design as the pop top stays on the tube and is quicker than having to screw and unscrew the top each time. But consumers complained about a broken cap because they couldn't unscrew it. The designers did not say "stupid consumers" they said "bad design"
Not saying this is best for society, it limits progression, but its just the reality.
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I beleive the layman's term is idiot proofing. Which from my experience is impossible as there is always one idiot who can find way to screw up even the best design or instructions lol
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I beleive the layman's term is idiot proofing. Which from my experience is impossible as there is always one idiot who can find way to screw up even the best design or instructions lol
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Agreed, no matter how much time i spend designing something, and thinking its idiot proof, Somebody somehow always finds a way......

pcriz said:
Thanks for not addressing every other phone with a sealed battery. Your point is already flawed.
And if you think every decision made about a device isn't based around return on investment then you are lost.
You guys come in armchair quarterbacking this and cant think outside of a pretty small box to even have a logical discussion.
Also love profound statement of Company X did this to save money/profit, what a company did something in an attempt to make money?!
Lol defend samsung? Did you not see my last statement about how they screwed up by using internal QA or is your confirmation bais not allowing you to acknowledge that?
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Now it looks like Samsung will have to defend itself. There being sued for this by the South Korean people. Look at the end of the day, I don't work for any of them so I don't really give a damn. I'm just talking out of my a$$ to rant sorry. You can delete this thread if you want.

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Now it looks like Samsung will have to defend itself. There being sued for this by the South Korean people. Look at the end of the day, I don't work for any of them so I don't really give a damn. I'm just talking out of my a$$ to rant sorry. You can delete this thread if you want.
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I think they should be sued. I will bet you money you will see a full influx of leaks for the s8 and all the hype and promotions will have everyone forget this mess even happened.
I have never been tied to one brand but Samsung solely because of the Note line has seen the most action for me. This go around I am ditching sammy for the Pixel. I can't act like coming from a Note 7 it doesnt feel like a downgrade but most phones on the market do at this point.

pcriz said:
I think they should be sued. I will bet you money you will see a full influx of leaks for the s8 and all the hype and promotions will have everyone forget this mess even happened.
I have never been tied to one brand but Samsung solely because of the Note line has seen the most action for me. This go around I am ditching sammy for the Pixel. I can't act like coming from a Note 7 it doesnt feel like a downgrade but most phones on the market do at this point.
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You know what's really bad? Besides the fact we are no longer seeing note 7 fires and from the ones that were officially found to be fraudulent or media bull****...i guarantee the note 8 will have people claiming their note 8 catches on fire when that comes out. I promise you there will be and I wouldn't be surprised if that's immediately cancelled without even bothering to realize people fake **** and possibly, though I doubt it, people and companies sabotage other companies.
Point is there defenantly was a design defect and Samsung screwed up but it is strange we aren't hearing about it anymore and I am genuinely concerned about the note 8 and bogus claims.
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force70 said:
I beleive the layman's term is idiot proofing. Which from my experience is impossible as there is always one idiot who can find way to screw up even the best design or instructions lol
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Samsung is a very autocratic company with the top-level brass often over ruling the engineers.

SharpD0g said:
Samsung is a very autocratic company with the top-level brass often over ruling the engineers.
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Which is not unlike many companies lol.
If i had a dollar for everytime Ive had to say "I told you so" to some dumb ass executive who overuled the correct course of action which then caused issues and the company alot of money Id be a rich man.

Anybody got the old .apk of Package Disabler Pro? It updated to prevent us from blocking system updates, and starting tomorrow, Samsung is rolling out updates to limit charging to 60%!

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Anybody got the old .apk of Package Disabler Pro? It updated to prevent us from blocking system updates, and starting tomorrow, Samsung is rolling out updates to limit charging to 60%!
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Guys uninstall the old package pro and download version 6.3 from this website. They disable the urgentfwupdate from version 6.6 which will allow samsung to send updates to our phones.
http://m.apkhere.com/app/com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
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Anybody got the old .apk of Package Disabler Pro? It updated to prevent us from blocking system updates, and starting tomorrow, Samsung is rolling out updates to limit charging to 60%!
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