I own a HTC Diamond bought in Italy.
I'm using this terminal both in Italy and in Mexico but here in Mexico the band for UMTS is 850 mhz. which is blocked in my Italian TRI BAND model.
I saw in this forum that it is possible to "open" the fourth band (850 mhz.) which is needed to run in UMTS instead of EDGE here in Mexico.
The question is if my terminal (European model) is suitable with this changes.
I don't want to risk bricking my phone.
Today I spoke with HTC europe to find some info but without results.
Any hint???
Thank you in advance.
Hello there
Here's the thing: my wife is currently in South Korea, and she's about to buy a Nexus one there. From what I've seen, there's two possible band sets for them:
HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
I know Korea uses 2100 (so any of those would work), however, here in Costa Rica we use 850. Is there any way to know which one of those the phone has before she buys it?
Thanks in advance.
AFAIK, the only Nexus in production is 900/1700/2100 one.
S/N on the back under the battery ends with 100.
If you have S/N ending with 110 - then it's 850/1900/2100 one.
Thank you very much.
Quick question... don't you mean the FCC ID? Because my S/N ends in 607 (I have a 850 N1), but my FCC ID does end in 110 (as well as the IC, whatever that is).
Yes, I've meant FCC ID. Sorry for the confusion.
Thank you very much, again. It's awesome to know it's that easy to check =)
What's the difference? I am guessing the regions they are sold in, but are there also hardware/radio differences?
There are no differences.
FDN
Not sure where they sale p970 I think it's europe, the p970h is for latin america and gets 3G in 850/1900/2100 mhz while p970 gets 3G in 900/1700/2100 mhz
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a12tu120 said:
Not sure where they sale p970 I think it's europe, the p970h is for latin america and gets 3G in 850/1900/2100 mhz while p970 gets 3G in 900/1700/2100 mhz
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The P970 is a quadband phone, this means it´s support the gsm frequencies Quadband (850/900/1800/1900MHz). I think the "h" version support it too.
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The P970 is a quadband phone, this means it´s support the gsm frequencies Quadband (850/900/1800/1900MHz). I think the "h" version support it too.
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the QuadBand (850/900/1800/1900MHz) is for the GSM 2G communications, and the HSDPA (also known as 3G) works on 900/1700/2100 for p970 and 850/1900/2100 for p970h that's why you can't import an european phone to latin america but will not be able to use 3G, 'cause most operators use 850/1900 bands, wich european phones don't use, that's the difference, but don't trust me, look it up!
Also that's why roms usually developed for europe causes so many crashes in Latin America while having 3G enabled
UMTS Europe use bands 2100/900MHz. Ther are a lot of mexicans using Zeus Rom (by Huexxx) based on V20N Europe Open and V20o Spanish, and nobody have reports problems with the radio in Mexico. See http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=321012.
Also some from Argentina, without problems. May be the phone is also quadband in UMTS.
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UMTS Europe use bands 2100/900MHz. Ther are a lot of mexicans using Zeus Rom (by Huexxx) based on V20N Europe Open and V20o Spanish, and nobody have reports problems with the radio in Mexico. See http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=321012.
Also some from Argentina, without problems. May be the phone is also quadband in UMTS.
Regards
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I have asked around and most of them having no data plan, experience no problems, some restrict to 2G due to battery managment so this also hide problems, only few people have notice this bug and it's not exclusive to OB I've experience it on Galaxy Ace and others, and also I can tell you that the two main carriers in Mexico use 3G in 850/1900, I have lived this issues, and I have check the specs sheets for P970 and P970h, I'm not making stuff up, I'm just trying to help other Latin American users who have no idea why their devices behaves like that ( constant FC screen flashes, battery drain for no reason, etc)
And for 3G it's not QuadBand, I'll let you the official mexican spec's sheet where you can see in System / WCDMA (also known as 3G) that it only has 850/1900/2100 Mhz
http://www.lg.com/mx/celulares/mostrar-todos/LG-P970.jsp
And the spec's for UK shows the "same phone" but with 3G in 900/1700/2100
http://www.lg.com/uk/mobile-phones/lg-P970-optimus-black
that's the difference
Thank you for the info! Your are the first from which I hear that, but you give also reasons why this can be the case. Of course, your info can help the few people who experiment this kind of problems.
Here some Data:
- From the German LG-site P970: Quadband (850/900/1800/1900MHz) + UMTS (2100/900MHz) + HSPA 7.2/5.7
-From the British LG-site P970: 850/900/1800/1900 – Edge 900/1700/2100 – HSPA 7.2/5.76
There seems to be a bandwidth chaos in LG´s information.
From http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_black_p970-3704.php:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100 HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100
That sounds about right (or reads hehe) since all the sources you're quoting have info for P970 version, as I told you the QuadBand is present in both versions but it works for 2G, all those have 3G in 900/1700/2100, (except gsmarema, but it's not official source, so it could be wrong) but check the P970h where the bands are 850/1900/2100
Neither GSMarena nor LG offer reliable information. It seem that the p970h doesn’t support 900MHz in HSPA and the p970 without “h” doesn’t use the 850MHz HSPA band. But it only seem due LG´s information doesn’t be trustworthy or complete.
I think the baseband capabilities are only determinable by measuring. Maybe some in the web have done this
I don't know why, but I've read this a lot, European people find it hard to believe that LG (or any other mobile brand for that matter) could make two or more differents versions from one phone to replace only the modems, but believe me, they do, you can find it on most phones, like when I had the Galaxy Ace, the model is S5830, but for LatAm is S5830L, and the difference is again the 850 band, and so goes on with several others
Its not a matter of believe or from coming of a specific region in the world, it’s a matter of facts. And the LG’s homepages aren’t a reliable source.
I believe your explications and your experience, but to isolate the source of problems is need of facts. There is still no probe, that the p970 doesn’t support the 850MHz and the p970h the 900MHz band. Its a hardware thing or rom related?
It's a matter of hardware no doubt!
Brasilian specs like mx but named P970 (without "h") http://www.lge.com/br/celular/aparelhos/LG-smartphone-P970.jsp and manual of brasilian vivo provider. This issue gets even stranger.
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So funny 'cause in Mexico's page it also name it with out the "h" the h it's only found in the phone it self, and I know for a fact that brazilian is p970h
Your are right, the brasilian technical name is p970h.
Now does this make a difference to what rom. Dwnload?? Since i have a p970h. Also i have 2.2.2 what is the highest official upgrade and what is the best way to get the highst. Upgrade whilst letting the phone still be useable on a daily basis????
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I also have a P970h (in Brazil) and I use any firmware version of P970 or P970h and I didn't perceive any problem with the phone. The 3G / HSDPA is working, but I'm not sure if in every band because here in São Paulo my carrier provides 3G in more than one frequency. Btw I'm currently using the v20S Spanish version.
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avi613 said:
Now does this make a difference to what rom. Dwnload?? Since i have a p970h. Also i have 2.2.2 what is the highest official upgrade and what is the best way to get the highst. Upgrade whilst letting the phone still be useable on a daily basis????
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Actually there's a V20C Brazilian version, I guess this is the latest version available for this country, and it's gingerbread without carrier modifications :thumbup:
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Hello xda,
I'm kind of confused because I'll be buying an HTC One in few days, I live in Tunisia, and I heard that the 4G LTE version which is sold in Dubai (don't know wether it's 801n, 801e or 801s) will not allow me to connect to the 3G network here in Tunisia (Calls are ok though)
Here are the network bands in Tunisia :
2G Network GSM 900 / 1800
3G Network 2100
So is there anyone that could confirm with certainty wether The LTE version of the One (801n) will work in 3G with those radio bands ?
Thanks in advance guys,
cheers
PS : Anyone from Dubai who bought the One from there could tell me which model he got? 801e or 801s or 801n?
Tabtoub said:
Hello xda,
I'm kind of confused because I'll be buying an HTC One in few days, I live in Tunisia, and I heard that the 4G LTE version which is sold in Dubai (don't know wether it's 801n, 801e or 801s) will not allow me to connect to the 3G network here in Tunisia (Calls are ok though)
Here are the network bands in Tunisia :
2G Network GSM 900 / 1800
3G Network 2100
So is there anyone that could confirm with certainty wether The LTE version of the One (801n) will work in 3G with those radio bands ?
Thanks in advance guys,
cheers
PS : Anyone from Dubai who bought the One from there could tell me which model he got? 801e or 801s or 801n?
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All of the models should work on Tunisia's network. All models can handle (3G) 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100MHz and (2G) 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900MHz.
Now for 4G that is when you have to choose what model is compatible with 4G in Tunisia (if they have one). But as far 2G and 3G are concerned any model will be fine.
shadowboy23 said:
All of the models should work on Tunisia's network. All models can handle (3G) 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100MHz and (2G) 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900MHz.
Now for 4G that is when you have to choose what model is compatible with 4G in Tunisia (if they have one). But as far 2G and 3G are concerned any model will be fine.
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Man you saved me, thanks a lot! I need only 2G and 3G+ (H) coz we don't have 4G here So any model will be fine as you said =)
Thanks again
Hi all,
Sorry if this question was already answered, but I couldn't find a clear answer in the forum.
I want to take a LG G2 as my next phone, and I consider buying a VS980 in order to have the wireless charging feature. My only fear is that I could not use LTE in Europe (France) as the supported bands are not the same between the VS980 and the D802 according to gsmarena.com:
LTE 800 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 for D802 (European version)
LTE 700 / 1700 / 2100 for VS980 (Verizon version)
My provider uses the 2600 band with FDD and it doesn't seem to be compatible with a VS980, does it ?
Can't speak for all of Europe, but there was no compatible LTE band operating in Bavaria as of last May.