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Hey everyone, I bought the LG in August. So far I love this phone. I have previously owned the Droid Eris, had that rooted and running all different kinds of Roms. I also previously owned the Droid 1 after they warranty replaced the Eris after 3 tries.
Now onto the next items, I have been lurking this site for quite a while now, I like what I am seeing with this phone, I am still debating whether or not to root this phone with the downgrade and rooting that way or just waiting a while longer and see if that rumor is true that the phone will see GB possibly next month. According to the tech at Verizon that I talked to the other day it should drop once the Revo2 comes out.

Welcome! in my opinion it's definitely worth downgrading to get root on this phone especially since you've already rooted other devices. Nobody really knows how long it's going to take them to release GB for the Revo so it could be a long wait. Our devs have put together some very solid, fast and stable roms. To get the most out of your phone, rooting is absolutely worth considering and you can always unroot when GB finally drops if that's what you're into...
VS910 4G [Revolt 1.4]

The rumor I heard about a month ago was that the LG Rep had told the Verizon store, during a visit, that they wre skipping 2.3 and going to a higher release. Not sure if that's true, so I would go with rooting for now if you want to play with things because if that rumor is true, it might be a few months before that ever happens. But, then again, Portland Oregon wasn't supposed to have 4G yet and we've had it for a while now.
-Cybie

Cybie257 said:
The rumor I heard about a month ago was that the LG Rep had told the Verizon store, during a visit, that they wre skipping 2.3 and going to a higher release. Not sure if that's true, so I would go with rooting for now if you want to play with things because if that rumor is true, it might be a few months before that ever happens. But, then again, Portland Oregon wasn't supposed to have 4G yet and we've had it for a while now.
-Cybie
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Hadn't heard that. That would be nice.
After more looking I think when I get of work tonight I just might root. As long as the radio still is good around here with V4.

Anyone know how to go back to stock from the .893 update?

Long story short the vzw rep told me to install the leaked update saying it would fix my 3g connection problems (which it didn't) and now I'm stuck with no root. I would like to either get root or go back to stock if thats possible. Is it possible to use the sbf and go back? Any help would be appreciated.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1279825

The VZ rep told you to install a leak? That sounds a bit shaky.

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1279825
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Won't work.
If I'm not mistaken. There is no way to go back to release stock. Since that update updated the bootloader / or kernel, FXZ ( SPF ) which ever you perfer to call it won't work since the updated bootloader.
sucks i know.
I have never heard about a vzw rep telling you to install something that is leaked. (most of the time voids warranty.)
About the only thing i can tell you is to try to get a hold of @p3droid on twitter and try to get a root method from him for test. but that may be unlikely but could be worth it if your willing to test stuff for him.
Anyway, Good luck with the phone.
I hope you get it
T.A.

A Verizon rep telling you to install a leak... that reminds me of the Verizon store near me. They're (almost) all a bunch of idiots, at least every one I've encountered in there was. One guy tried to tack a note onto my account saying that my insurance should be removed since I "rooted" my phone, when I actually just had go launcher running. wasn't actually rooted at that time, I know better than to tread in their turf with the Superuser hanging around.
Couldn't he just apply the FXZ image since that's basically a whole phone image?

TopazAaron said:
Won't work.
If I'm not mistaken. There is no way to go back to release stock. Since that update updated the bootloader / or kernel, FXZ ( SPF ) which ever you perfer to call it won't work since the updated bootloader.
sucks i know.
I have never heard about a vzw rep telling you to install something that is leaked. (most of the time voids warranty.)
About the only thing i can tell you is to try to get a hold of @p3droid on twitter and try to get a root method from him for test. but that may be unlikely but could be worth it if your willing to test stuff for him.
Anyway, Good luck with the phone.
I hope you get it
T.A.
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Ya the phone functions now just sucks not having root. Luckily I got a replacement on the way already I would just prefer to keep my original bionic than taking a chance with a re-certified one.
K.AuthoR said:
A Verizon rep telling you to install a leak... that reminds me of the Verizon store near me. They're (almost) all a bunch of idiots, at least every one I've encountered in there was. One guy tried to tack a note onto my account saying that my insurance should be removed since I "rooted" my phone, when I actually just had go launcher running. wasn't actually rooted at that time, I know better than to tread in their turf with the Superuser hanging around.
Couldn't he just apply the FXZ image since that's basically a whole phone image?
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Ya dude they aren't the brightest but I couldn't get data on 3g at all the airplane toggle, factory reset, and sbf didn't fix it so I took the plunge to the latest leak with no success. When you call the tech people up on the phone they read from a script and its like dude I already factory reset a battery pulls not gonna fix it.....

For what it's worth, I've been seeing some issues with 3G lately myself, but I'm in an area where we have had LTE for less than two weeks. Every time I use 3G only, I get network issues as well, so my guess was it's just Verizon doing backend things and ****ing with the network.

K.AuthoR said:
For what it's worth, I've been seeing some issues with 3G lately myself, but I'm in an area where we have had LTE for less than two weeks. Every time I use 3G only, I get network issues as well, so my guess was it's just Verizon doing backend things and ****ing with the network.
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My gf's thunderbolt gets 3g data that was 2 feet away from my bionic. It was the phone not the network.

Well, there goes my effort No LTE your way yet I'm guessing?

this reminds me of .... well, nothing.. but.. it does suck and it made me laugh.. i really am sorry about your trouble and im glad you are getting a replacement but.. damn.

Bionics 3g radio just sucks! Period! The 4g on the other hand tends to work almost normal. I have messed with 3 different bionics and have had the same results..

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Well, there goes my effort No LTE your way yet I'm guessing?
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No we get LTE it just comes in and out and like when I'm at the gym I only get 3g so I couldn't browse the internet between sets haha
xkape said:
this reminds me of .... well, nothing.. but.. it does suck and it made me laugh.. i really am sorry about your trouble and im glad you are getting a replacement but.. damn.
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I just want root the phone functions fine now though lol

I also had a vzw dummy say my DROIDX was rooted too cuz I was running LPP. I just looked at him and said... are you serious. I think we all know not to take a phone into vzw while rooted. I would talk to the store manager that some1 had told you to install a leak. Make sure this doesn't get tagged as your fault.
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droidrev71 said:
Bionics 3g radio just sucks! Period! The 4g on the other hand tends to work almost normal. I have messed with 3 different bionics and have had the same results..
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I agree.
inkdaddy66 said:
I also had a vzw dummy say my DROIDX was rooted too cuz I was running LPP. I just looked at him and said... are you serious. I think we all know not to take a phone into vzw while rooted. I would talk to the store manager that some1 had told you to install a leak. Make sure this doesn't get tagged as your fault.
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I was rooted too I just used launcherpro to hide the superuser but the guy I talked to had a droid 2 global and his phone was rooted he didn't care lol.

You'll get a few reps that are actually into their devices. But few and far in between. When I see an android device and see it's not rooted. My look of enjoyment turns to disgust. Lol.
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inkdaddy66 said:
You'll get a few reps that are actually into their devices. But few and far in between. When I see an android device and see it's not rooted. My look of enjoyment turns to disgust. Lol.
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LOL now you know why I want to get this bionic back to stock I can't stand having this **** not rooted. Like my girls thunderbolt is rooted for my enjoyment she could care less haha.

You did say that you're having another sent out to you right? Yeah no root is no good. Although when I first got mine I was really impressed with it unrooted. Told myself to play with it for a while unrooted but I just couldn't do it. Ha ha.
But it seriously needs a radio update. Its horrible. My thunderbolts radio blew this outta the water.
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inkdaddy66 said:
You did say that you're having another sent out to you right? Yeah no root is no good. Although when I first got mine I was really impressed with it unrooted. Told myself to play with it for a while unrooted but I just couldn't do it. Ha ha.
But it seriously needs a radio update. Its horrible. My thunderbolts radio blew this outta the water.
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Yeah its on its way they use to fed ex over night it now they've gotten stingy and usps it 2-5 business days...... Ya I said that too and it lasted about 15 minutes out of the box before it was rooted lol.

RMcCall said:
Yeah its on its way they use to fed ex over night it now they've gotten stingy and usps it 2-5 business days...... Ya I said that too and it lasted about 15 minutes out of the box before it was rooted lol.
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2-5 days. That's weak. I had no idea they changed it up. A little ridiculous. Providing we all need phones for obvious reasons. At least yours still works.
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Ya they must of just changed it cause my girl got a replacement thunderbolt overnighted like a month ago. She said i could pay 20 bucks to get it overnighted needless to say i passed on her offer.
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All Android devices need continued os and bug fix updates

http://www.facebook.com/motorola?sk=wall&filter=1 click the link people like it and comment on it.
I have seen first hand proof of this working. I had an evo 3d. Htc decided all futre devices would have locked bootliaders well that made alot of people angry. Someone posted a thread on xda suggesting we let htc know that is not gna fly. So it turnd out thousands of people got on there facebook wall and twitter. Guess what the next day htc released a statement saying that they wanted too keep there coustamers happy and that the bootloader would be unlocked. They were. Id like to be able too have a device and not have too get a new one juzt because moto or htc or sammy wants too put them out constantly get people too buy them and then ditch them and out out another. The atrix is 100 percent capable of runing ics and theres no excuae for it l not too recieve it just because moto wants people too buy new devices every couple months. I know many many people feel the same way well as i said we have the power too change that if people would stop bickering and take it seriously. And also if moto started supporting devices longer not just bug fixes but the new android flavors. Id definately make my next device a moto it would do nothing but benefit them

Why are we discussing/petitioning something that we don't know? Has it been set in stone that manufacturers will not support us anymore or is this all stemming from paranoia?

Because it is the trend. And the atrix 2 has been released already. All the manufactures with the exception of sammy have been doing this more and more lately abandoning. Devices. And pumping out new ones. At a very fast pace

So you are saying they are not going to support the atrix anymore since they released the atrix 2? I'd rather wait till this actually happens before i draw a conclusion. e.g. when ICS gets released and they say they are not going to update the atrix.

Kailkti said:
So you are saying they are not going to support the atrix anymore since they released the atrix 2? I'd rather wait till this actually happens before i draw a conclusion. e.g. when ICS gets released and they say they are not going to update the atrix.
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Look at the original Incredible.
My wife's one has been turned to **** since the 2.3.4 update, and nothing from HTC, and Verizon pretty much said too bad so sad. Buy another phone or deal with it.
So yes, support will be dropped for older models whether you like to assumed it or not.

Papi4baby said:
Look at the original Incredible.
My wife's one has been turned to **** since the 2.3.4 update, and nothing from HTC, and Verizon pretty much said too bad so sad. Buy another phone or deal with it.
So yes, support will be dropped for older models whether you like to assumed it or not.
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No it is obvious support is going to be dropped for old models. But he is implying that models released this year will not get support.

I think for every $10 a phone costs over $50 on launch day (on contract) is how many months it should be updated for. So a $300 phone should be kept updated for 25 months. So this would either keep phone prices lower or keep them updated.

Facebook is a poor way of getting the attention of corporations. You want them to change? Buy a nexus phone. Money talks.

Kailkti said:
No it is obvious support is going to be dropped for old models. But he is implying that models released this year will not get support.
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I think ICS only has support for Armv7 currently, so phones with those SoCs will get updated. However, phones using custom UIs will experience a longer waiting time, maybe around early Q1 of 2012. HTC has released like 1000 phones in the last few months and I doubt most will get ICS soon, not sure if Moto will bother at all. But it might be better to wait and actually see what goes down, like you said.

Has HTC in fact locked a boot loader or withheld hardware drivers?
I intend for my next phone to be HTC just because of the hell Samsung put us though trying to get GB on the i9000.

Handsome Rob said:
Has HTC in fact locked a boot loader or withheld hardware drivers?
I intend for my next phone to be HTC just because of the hell Samsung put us though trying to get GB on the i9000.
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HTC new phones i believe i read come locked.
You can unlock them direct with HTC, but you loose all warranty. As per HTC.

Papi4baby said:
HTC new phones i believe i read come locked.
You can unlock them direct with HTC, but you loose all warranty. As per HTC.
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As I understand it, you lose all ROM related warranty, so for instance if your screen fails then you're still covered.

Motorola unlocking bootloaders ??
you should check this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316722

I had a motorola xt720.... not the best phone..but was ok. Motorola decided to stop supporting it within 4 months of launch or something stupid like that. No new updates no nothing. And still insisted on the bootloader staying locked so the dev's found it alot harder to do their job for them.
I will never ever buy a motorola product again.
The market is fairly competitive ... don't buy from companies that pull this crap

[Q] New owner - what are the known issues?

My fiance is getting the Bionic, it's expected early next week. What are the known problems with this phone so we know what to expect?
Oh, and this wasn't a phone of either of our choice, Verizon kinda forced it on her. She had her phone stolen at work and Verizon offered to give her this phone for a price, but give up her upgrade next yr and sign a 2 yr agreement. When we tried asking for another phone, we got a firm "we can't do that." I know, really bad deal... I may try calling on her behalf to get that straightened out tonight.
But in case we're stuck, I was just curious about the problems.

What phone did she have? What phone would you and her rather have had? Since you're showing a little hate, I'll show a little love........... Bionic is the best phone out there, you won't find anything better.

Most of the issues have been resolve with the updates love the phone have had it since launch very fast and no lags in the software 4g is great, only issue is a data drop maybe once a week when switching from 4g to 3g.
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I didn't mean to give the impression I was expecting this to be a terrible phone. Just as getting anything new, you want to know what to expect. I'm an avid Android user and know the specs. The phone seems to be a great phone, but it can be a bit harder to investigate any problems with it. I was hoping someone would say the bugs were worked out, so thank you for that. The hate comes from the way Verizon kind of screwed her out of an upgrade without any choice of phone. We didn't know what we would have rather had yet, but having known it would be giving up an upgrade, we would have liked to look into what is available and actually have a choice.
But the Bionic IS an upgrade from what she had before. She had the LG Revolution which was a terrible experience. Thanks for the feedback though. Like I said, I was just trying to get a better idea of what to expect. (Thanks buttons have been clicked)

gk1984 said:
I didn't mean to give the impression I was expecting this to be a terrible phone. Just as getting anything new, you want to know what to expect. I'm an avid Android user and know the specs. The phone seems to be a great phone, but it can be a bit harder to investigate any problems with it. I was hoping someone would say the bugs were worked out, so thank you for that. The hate comes from the way Verizon kind of screwed her out of an upgrade without any choice of phone. We didn't know what we would have rather had yet, but having known it would be giving up an upgrade, we would have liked to look into what is available and actually have a choice.
But the Bionic IS an upgrade from what she had before. She had the LG Revolution which was a terrible experience. Thanks for the feedback though. Like I said, I was just trying to get a better idea of what to expect. (Thanks buttons have been clicked)
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I just got my bionic yesterday on a warranty swap (had an LG Revolution also... went through 3 of them before they gave me another option). All I had to pay for was a battery and battery door.

Rooting it is now fairly easy. ICS builds are out there, but I'm not satisfied with the quality try for daily use. One you root it and ROM it, first thing to do is wipe battery stats.
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KaneOfMars said:
I just got my bionic yesterday on a warranty swap (had an LG Revolution also... went through 3 of them before they gave me another option). All I had to pay for was a battery and battery door.
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Wow, lucky you. They'll do anything to get more money from ya (us) huh? They're reasoning is they're letting her upgrade over a year early - hence the reason for no choice.
Hans5849 said:
Rooting it is now fairly easy. ICS builds are out there, but I'm not satisfied with the quality try for daily use. One you root it and ROM it, first thing to do is wipe battery stats.
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I appreciate the rom tips, but she refuses to go that route - I tried. I've rooted and flashed countless roms on 3 phones i've owned, but she isn't comfortable letting that happen. so, her use will always be 100% stock. But since we're on the topic, any promise of an official ICS update? I'll look into this myself if no one cares to answer. I'm sure that's easy to find.

Motorola has promised ics but there is no set date for it.
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Some nice things
I just got mine a couple of weeks ago. While you did ask about known issues, I guess it's only fair to mentions some positives as well.
1. The 4g, at least in my area (around Baltimore), is pretty great.
2. Patching the mobile hotspot is fairly easy, (if you don't mind spending a couple of bucks on the right app) which is quite useful if you're grandfathered with unlimited data.
3. The lapdock can be quite useful - emphasis on "can" - as you can have a full blown linux OS running on it (takes some nerdiness to get it working nice, but I honestly think it's well worth it since I paid only about $70 for my lapdock).
4. Rooting the phone is extremely easy.
5. If you mess anything up, restoring it to its original state is fairly easy and mostly fool proof (as with all motorola android phones) using RSD Lite.

Got mine about 2 weeks ago and I absolutely love the way it works. My wife upgraded as well to her first smartphone, but sadly she chose the Samsung Charge. When I showed her the pink theme for Eclipse 2.2 she was having 2nd thoughts on her choice. Over all a damn good device and lots of different options for it.

gk1984 said:
Wow, lucky you. They'll do anything to get more money from ya (us) huh? They're reasoning is they're letting her upgrade over a year early - hence the reason for no choice.
I appreciate the rom tips, but she refuses to go that route - I tried. I've rooted and flashed countless roms on 3 phones i've owned, but she isn't comfortable letting that happen. so, her use will always be 100% stock. But since we're on the topic, any promise of an official ICS update? I'll look into this myself if no one cares to answer. I'm sure that's easy to find.
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The data drop issues I had were resolved with the leaked .904 update. Fairly simple to apply and the phone stays stock since its just an update, maybe you need to root. (I was rooted when I applied it and had to reroot after.)
Other then that I would occasionally get duplicate texts and it would get rather annoying getting the same text multiple times, one time it didnt stop so I had to reboot (note that this is same in stock as well as roms and messaging apps).
Since then I disabled the timestamp option in the text messaging and it seems to have resolved it. (2 days with no duplicates) I re-enabled it to see if it would start doing it again to see if the timestamps are the actual root cause of the problem.
Those were my only issues with Stock. Since then I have been running Eclipse and have been loving it.

nobe1976 said:
Got mine about 2 weeks ago and I absolutely love the way it works. My wife upgraded as well to her first smartphone, but sadly she chose the Samsung Charge. When I showed her the pink theme for Eclipse 2.2 she was having 2nd thoughts on her choice. Over all a damn good device and lots of different options for it.
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DROID Charge?? that's a terrible choice.

Android Kitkat 4.4

I thought I'd share this. It's from Asus customer support.
After consulting related department in TW, up till now, they still have no schedule for next update but they do have the plan to update it.
We will transfer customers' wishes to them for further development.
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Unlocking is coming

issawillwin said:
Unlocking is coming
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I will .. after my warranties goes out... be using custom ROMs for sure (I was happy to see that someone builded/ported AOKP). But I am bit disappointed from Asus and their lack of communications on that matter.

Technojo said:
I will .. after my warranties goes out... be using custom ROMs for sure (I was happy to see that someone builded/ported AOKP). But I am bit disappointed from Asus and their lack of communications on that matter.
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at least you got a tablet mine has been in asus repair centre 2 months now. they had it more than i have.
Never buying asus again.
bought in nov resetting and other random issues update didn`t fix sent away. 1 month comes back now it`s worse. send it back sd card issue keeps remounting every 30 secs send back. they deny they can replicate issue even with vid i sent them. (apparently they were being kind and didn`t charge me labor fee for looking at tablet to find no fault.)
Got tablet back tried 4 diff sd cards diff sizes format all same issue recorded. whole thing sent back now they admit issue and will fix (1 month to get that far).
however the reset issue and garbled screen also recorded is not replicate-able. ..... 3 weeks latter they still have it and can never answer my question about wtf is going on and refuse to just swap it over with a new one.
so i have had tablet about 3 months they had it 5 months mind my french but fu ck ing useless service. it will be out of warranty before i use the damn thing.
what annoys me the most is this was bought specifically for on the go as i run my business remotely and am an avid bike user so carting around a crazy heavy laptop annoys the **** out of me.
Anyway lesson learnt don`t buy asus because if you get a **** one it will never get back to you working.

Technojo said:
I thought I'd share this. It's from Asus customer support.
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Maybe we should keep bugging them until they release an update.

cecilyen said:
Maybe we should keep bugging them until they release an update.
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