Since a last few days, I've been seeing a lot of threads in Q&A where users are complaining that their device stopped working after flashing recovery via ROM Manager. I created this thread so that people dont end up bricking their devices. ROM Manager does not work on ace. Do NOT trust any sites telling you to flash CWM recovery via Rom Manager. We have a working and stable unofficial CWM recovery already, you can download it from here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18167974
Note to MOD - Please sticky this thread and copy it to Android Development section if possible.
ROM Manager is pretty much a fail for ALL devices. After I got my first Android, and was a n00b of rooting, I used ROM Manager to dl and flash CM7. Guess what?
Bootloop. Never touched it again. Of course, it was only a soft brick, and it was a simple fix, but since it was my first ever ROM and first ever Android and first ever root, naturally I freaked
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Shouldn't this go in General section?
POTATO!!!!
Yes. It's a General thread. The ROM Manager thing is posted across this forum many times, so I don't see the point of making a sticky. About Q&A questions - there always were newcomers and always will be.
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Shouldn't this go in General section?
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I know. I thought of putting it in development section because many people dont read general section before rooting. A lot of other device forums have similar types of thread in Development and Original development section. So, I felt like creating one for ace too.
As for the sticky thing, a lot of people dont care to go through the guides properly. A warning thread especially for Rom manager would make sure no one uses rom manager. I created this thread ecause a lot of people were ending up bricking their devices. If its useless, mod can delete it.
I agree with tj_droid, there are more and more cases coming up where the users try to flash cwm with rom manager and hard brick their phones! Threads like this could save many Ace's!
+1 to make it sticky!
First thing i do when i finish installing CyanogenMod roms is deleting Rom Manager, haha
Galaxy Ace Killed Dead
I hard bricked my Ace a couple of weeks ago. It has been sent for repair as it is still in warranty. I would have really appreciated this thread.
Thanks to this!..I was wondering what could be the other use of that "Rom Manager" i mean it also contains how to back up and flash rom like in CWM..but i didn't know that its dangerous if i use this to flash.. anyway thanks so much..:good:
I also bricked my ace but it was brand new (bricked within 2 days of buying). So they replaced it. I think i was lucky
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I also bricked my ace but it was brand new (bricked within 2 days of buying). So they replaced it. I think i was lucky
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Once they knew that you rooted your phone they'll send you the bill.
You'll pay for it.
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Once they knew that you rooted your phone they'll send you the bill.
You'll pay for it.
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This all happened a year ago.
And i don't think they will send me the bill now.
Moreover they never tried to repair their devices they just throw them in trash.
According to manufactures repairing a device is more costlier than making a new device
Don't inatall rom manager
I too bricked my lovely ace because of rom manager ! hard brick !! had to go to service center.. don't ever use it if you love your ace.. if you want a custom rom use cwm which can be downloaded from the following thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034145
press thanks if i helped...
cwm manager
friends,
Does CWM manager which came pre-installed with a custom rom can brick Ace?
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friends,
Does CWM manager which came pre-installed with a custom rom can brick Ace?
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It's still ROM manager, still same problems
I'm guessing it's cyanogenmod? Since I know they bundle in ROM manager. Just uninstall the app
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Ok now that I've bricked my Ace, I have a question. If I take it in to a repair shop to have it Jtagged for repair (full brick, no response at all) can they save the software that was loaded on my phone or does the process eliminate the entire phone's contents and return it back to factory state? I had a lot of stufff on it, that I should've backed up and didn't....
be a whole lot easier if google play would show it as not being compatible. it would save alot of Ace's
what happen if we touch?
It will brick your Ace.
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Hey guys i'm just a sucker for customization was happy with ADW EX, then yeah i came across this thing called CM7 which supports amazing themes.
So i upgraded to 2.3 n rooted it. . .but i hardly had a clue about installing custom roms. i kept researching on the net n then one day decided to finally go for it.
The first step i s obviously installing the CWM Recovery n that's where i commited the BLUNDER!!
I flashed CWM from ROM MANAGER and then my phone was bricked like totally dead, i tried all the online solutions but nothin worked but luckily my warranty was still intact n the samsung guys rescued me.
after spendin considerable amount of time on the internet there are
3ways A GALAXY MINI can get BRICKED
1. FLASHING CWM Recovery From ROM MANAGER
2. Downgrade 2.2 from 2.3 using a 2.3 OPS
3. BY Flashing stock Rom on top of a Custom Rom
i've also found out that CWM has bricked quite a few HTC devices while PARTIONING SD CARD.
SO BE CAREFULL GUYS, any experiment u wanna try on, search for GALAXY MINI only.
Hope i was some help! If u know any other way then please post n make this thread as usefull as possible for first timers like me
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SO BE CAREFULL GUYS, any experiment u wanna try on, search for GALAXY MINI only.
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Thats what i've done so far.
Thanks to that, I've never bricked my phone.
I have done all of those actions, ne ver had bricked my device, tough.
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Well, never bricked my phone either. But, rom manager does NOT support s5570. So, you shouldn't even try installing cwm with
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I flashed cwm from odin (5.0.0.x). I also have ROM Manager installed on my device. Everything's working nice and smooth.
SwankyShaan
If u flash CWM from Odin n use ROM MANAGER its not gonna harm mini, but yeah DON'T EVA try flashin CWM from ROM Manager. HARD Brick is surety guys trust me.
Usin ROM MANAGER alone will not brick the device howeva if u flash CWM then like i said its a surety.
SwankyShaan said:
If u flash CWM from Odin n use ROM MANAGER its not gonna harm mini, but yeah DON'T EVA try flashin CWM from ROM Manager. HARD Brick is surety guys trust me.
Usin ROM MANAGER alone will not brick the device howeva if u flash CWM then like i said its a surety.
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Not completely true... Have read reports of people that used ROM manager only to enter CWM. And still, they bricked their phones. It's just a weird piece of software... I decided to stop using it... It ain't that hard to enter recovery mode manually...
I flashed once the stock rom over cm7 had no prob...!...haven't tried other two...anyway thnks for the info....
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SwabkyShaan
Yeah totally agreed i just dont undastand the hype surrounded by this app, its just not worth especially when it does a job of 'ONE CLICK BRICK' software lol.
Why not just launch manually totally agreeable mate. Just wanna spread awareness.
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Not sure this is a real cause of brick. Sometimes, yt's necessary to upgrade base FW as part of custom firmware updates.
I've done it in the past without problem
Regards,
Federico
SwankyShaan said:
If u flash CWM from Odin n use ROM MANAGER its not gonna harm mini, but yeah DON'T EVA try flashin CWM from ROM Manager. HARD Brick is surety guys trust me.
Usin ROM MANAGER alone will not brick the device howeva if u flash CWM then like i said its a surety.
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Rom Manager didnt even want to flash it for me
Bunnybugs_007 said:
Not completely true... Have read reports of people that used ROM manager only to enter CWM. And still, they bricked their phones. It's just a weird piece of software... I decided to stop using it... It ain't that hard to enter recovery mode manually...
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Hmm, Rom Manager has never bricked my device. Anyways, I'm using power prompt recovery reboot in squadzone's ROMs
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3. BY Flashing stock Rom on top of a Custom Rom
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I've tried that like 5 to 10 times, didn't end up bricking my phone yet...
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2. Downgrade 2.2 from 2.3 using a 2.3 OPS
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Had it not been for your post, would not have known that there exists a separate ops file for 2.2... I'm also kinda newbie here
So thanks a ton for this valuable info. Will keep that in mind when I downgrade my phone...
Guys my intention was just to warn u. All i can say is ROM MANAGER is the cause for ova 90% of galaxy mini bricks.
The other two however i'm not so sure, neva tried it nor i wanna try it.
btw downgradin with wrong ops or flashin stock rom DOESN'T cause HARD BRICK, but it bricks nevertheless, just google "GALAXY MINI BRICK"
N don't blame me if it didn't brick ya phone lol my job is to warn the newbies, n those who think/are smarter than me they can continue their own thingy
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Guys my intention was just to warn u. All i can say is ROM MANAGER is the cause for ova 90% of galaxy mini bricks.
The other two however i'm not so sure, neva tried it nor i wanna try it.
btw downgradin with wrong ops or flashin stock rom DOESN'T cause HARD BRICK, but it bricks nevertheless, just google "GALAXY MINI BRICK"
N don't blame me if it didn't brick ya phone lol my job is to warn the newbies, n those who think/are smarter than me they can continue their own thingy
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Well, it's ok when you warn people. But warn them with the right information.
I just wanna tell everyone that ROM Manager sucks and maybe its a cursed software to mind **** everyone. Hard bricked my phone. Am ****ing waiting for a week. Gave my phone for servicing....because of this stupid app I have to live without a phone and service center still got to receive the new mother board for the phone....
I couldnt believe it that an APP can screw the phone this much....IT ****S UP THE GOD DAMN MOTHER BOARD>[email protected]
DONT EVER ****ING USE THIS PIECE OF CRAP ON YOUR PHONE ! YOU LL ****ING REGRET IT OR ELSE!
PS: AM STILL ****ING CURSING MYSELF FOR USING THIS MOTHER ****ING APP, SON OF A ***** ROM MANAGER!
ROM Manager and CWM recovery, both from same womb !!
I guess its all because of unsupported device.
It's good tips. but I don't think the 3rd one is correct. I've done this many times
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I have bricked my phone once because I flashed the wrong ROM by mistake.
chemicalrage said:
I just wanna tell everyone that ROM Manager sucks and maybe its a cursed software to mind **** everyone. Hard bricked my phone. Am ****ing waiting for a week. Gave my phone for servicing....because of this stupid app I have to live without a phone and service center still got to receive the new mother board for the phone....
I couldnt believe it that an APP can screw the phone this much....IT ****S UP THE GOD DAMN MOTHER BOARD>[email protected]
DONT EVER ****ING USE THIS PIECE OF CRAP ON YOUR PHONE ! YOU LL ****ING REGRET IT OR ELSE!
PS: AM STILL ****ING CURSING MYSELF FOR USING THIS MOTHER ****ING APP, SON OF A ***** ROM MANAGER!
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At first: watch your freaking language... Cursing is for in the church.
Second: If you've been so stupid to install the CWM recovery that was created for another device, than you've got what you've deserved. There are so many guides on how to flash recovery on your SGM... So it's kind of your own fault...
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At first: watch your freaking language... Cursing is for in the church.
Second: If you've been so stupid to install the CWM recovery that was created for another device, than you've got what you've deserved. There are so many guides on how to flash recovery on your SGM... So it's kind of your own fault...
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Yeah its our stupid decision to flash the wrong CWM agrred. But how the f*** can an app kill a phone completely without any fkn warnin?? every1 makes mistakes n its no bad to curse some1 or somethin which ruined ya life even though its for a week. get a life man no1's gonna get u beer.
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Yeah its our stupid decision to flash the wrong CWM agrred. But how the f*** can an app kill a phone completely without any fkn warnin?? every1 makes mistakes n its no bad to curse some1 or somethin which ruined ya life even though its for a week. get a life man no1's gonna get u beer.
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Well, not finding your device in the list should be warning enough
here are some points which a mini user must follow to keep his g'mini away from problems
Flashing roms:-
now many mini users flash rom on their mobile with stock recovery then create a thread here saying "I did this how to get this fixed" why you not read before doing anything
be sure to flash cwm to your phone with Odin and never flash it through rom manager even if it shows g'mini in the list
ROM manager:-
Flashing recovery through rom manager is highly risky 99.99% are of bricking their mobile (obviously can be revived), although many users have posted that they have successfully flashed rom (not recovery) through the app, but still am warning you to not use it on any cost and also I will also like to ask devs to remove it from their rom, by including the app in their rom people got encouraged to use it, I am not blaming the developer of rom manager, he is doing a very great work but rom manager is not made for galaxy mini
Touch firmware update:-
Many of you are interested in special codes which have to put in the dialer to access special areas of android os
in the bulk of those codes there is a code for updating touch firmware, but you are warned that you should not do this, these days many problem are coming about touch, updating touch firmware will brick your touch, and flashing will not do anything and its a tricky job to get the touch working again
but if you have did update even after reading this please do not create a new thread instead write problem here, all the members here will try to solve it
what is touch firmware update:- there is an option in samsung's android phone to update its touch firmware, and its a very risky task to do, 80% of the result are of bricking the touch, and then what happens is hours of Googling, unwanted tensions in mind and obviously a bricked touch
how to fix it:- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22709246&postcount=1 here is a very good tut on fixing your touch
Rooting and Unrooting:-
Currently there are two packages to root galaxy mini, both have their on advantages, but you need to keep in mind that you must use the same packages for rooting and unrooting, using different packages can cause instability.
flashing recovery:-
flashing recovery through rom toolbox or flash_image binary is not recommended it may lead to a brick, instead use the method discribed in thousands of tutorial around internet, most secure way to flash recovery is through Odin using a recovery.tar file according to your current version
unlocking phone:-
many of you wanted to unlock your mobile to use other company's sim on your sim locked mobile, and thousands of articles are there to do this in galaxy mini, but don't for get to backup you efs folder to a safe place so of something just mis-happens then you can use the backup to restore the imei, another thing is never make any changes to the file located in the efs folder, or else you will have a mp4 player instead of a fully working android
Please Xplain more about Touch Firmware Upgrade, what's its effect on sensitivity, silky smoothness.....
I know there is Google but regarding to mini's touch we could understand better.
He had given so important guide and in return he had got only 1 thanks .
Edit: I forgot to thanks him too
Edward Cullen
VR.gtmini said:
Please Xplain more about Touch Firmware Upgrade, what's its effect on sensitivity, silky smoothness.....
I know there is Google but regarding to mini's touch we could understand better.
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if you want better touchscreen, get yourself a better phone
yackovsky said:
if you want better touchscreen I will give gorilla glass 5
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I have Xperia S, HTC one X, but I use mini too. I'm just out from xda for some time in past.
Btw if anyone can provide links of guide I will surely appreciate
(recommended to Tchaikovsky to refresh up mind with specs of both of the above phones)
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Could we Have this thread pinned? It has very important info, especially pertaining to the use of ROM manager.
^ Did you also brick your phone because of ROM manager?
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^ Did you also brick your phone because of ROM manager?
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No, actually I had been lurking on the forums for sometime so knew about this. But I have heard too many horror stories
if someone is dumb enough to do anything with his phone without any knowledge about it... let's just say, remove all warning labels from all kinds of products, and let the natural selection begin
thanks for advice
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^ Did you also brick your phone because of ROM manager?
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Yeah. Rom manager bricked my phone. I tried to install clockworkmod recovery.
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Please also list all other apps too which are HAZARDOUS to our mini
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Please also list all other apps too which are HAZARDOUS to our mini
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VR.gtmini said:
Please also list all other apps too which are HAZARDOUS to our mini
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Rom toolbox if you flash recovery. My Mini's currently bricked coz of the recovery.img.
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panpjp said:
Rom toolbox if you flash recovery. My Mini's currently bricked coz of the recovery.img.
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Hi there im using emanon v7 galaxy mini and cwm v4
can i upgrade my cwm to 5.0.2.8 via recovery mode?? and do i need to wipe cache /data
cause new experience rom requires 5.0.2.8cwm
Hi,
I recently bricked my phone by putting a random rom.
I don't want to do it again.
I replaced the motherboard.
Any more things which can brick my phone ? anything specific for SGA or its the same for All?
- Never put a random Rom
- Never use Rom Manager
- Read the whole thread 1st especially the Installation Procedure before flashing it
- SGA has 2^x models, know which model you have before trying some random ROM;
- Only L/B/D and T models are supported for custom ROMs (GT-S5830i/M isn't, afaik);
- Learn everything you can do before trying something;
- Search function is your friend, use it when you're afraid of something (no, I'm not reprimanding you);
- If you searched AND looked for at least 2 or 3 search pages (your answer could be buried in the deeps of XDA) you're good to ask!
Sorry if this seems a bit harsh, but this is what I (try) to do.
You know what...Flash a rom,be happy with it,don't go changing roms every single day
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You know what...Flash a rom,be happy with it,don't go changing roms every single day
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That's a nice tip too Don't flash lots of ROMs unless you really know what you are doing!
Read properly all instructions b4 flashing..... .
Never install rommanager.....
Read d reviews b4 flashing ( don't be d firstone to flash a zip )
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Maybe flash a rom with removed bootloader? I remember seeing some of those roms in the Dev section. As rom manager hard bricks your phone by corrupting the bootloader, your phone will be virtually un hard brickable if you have no bootloader!
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I recently got a Note running stock ICS 4.03, not rooted, nothing. I've been trying to wrap my head around the brick bug thing ever since I got it. I'm still a bit scared about flashing a new ROM though.
Should I wait for the official 4.1.2 update? Will it fix the brick bug so it will be safe to flash anything again? Have devs been able to glean that from the existing 4.1.2 leaks and official releases (Poland?)?
Or will I have to move to a safe kernel (Philz?) manually anyway, no matter if I wait for the 4.1.2 update first?
Thanks so much!
This place is really good. You get guidance, tutorials, instant help. (when I think of instant help, one name comes to mind nokiamodeln91, there are several guys like him here). But spoon feeding is not encouraged. You are asking several questions with multiple if and buts. Answer may run into pages. You want to fire the rifle from others shoulder.
It's your phone and your choices. Definitely there are elements of risk when you do something different. Try out whatever you like. Read carefully before doing.
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We wont know if its safe until kernel and sources are interpreted by the pros, there is a main brickbugthread in general watch that one for the answers
Go to app stpre downlod brickbugapp, it wil tell u if ur device is prone to this flaw.
If yes then its something to worry about and its only if u want to flash custom roms. If u want to keep stock then its ok even if u have the bug.
Search and find how to root ur device, for me to make the process easy, i install the "exynos abuse" app from play store , it will root ur device just in a single click
Then install root checker app, again from play store to see if ur device is rooted.
Then install the rom manager and install the cwm recovery through it.
Then search the thread of philz safe kerne. And follow procedures to flash it.
Ur device is safe now.
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Hi all,
I am really ashamed to post it here but no one was helping me in QA threads.
My problem is, I have lost my phone's touch after rooting and installing cwm with AIO toolkit.
Now smartflashed ICS kdz but nothing happened.
Flashed many custom roms also, no luck.
So please help me.
Jahanzaib353 said:
Hi all,
I am really ashamed to post it here but no one was helping me in QA threads.
My problem is, I have lost my phone's touch after rooting and installing cwm with AIO toolkit.
Now smartflashed ICS kdz but nothing happened.
Flashed many custom roms also, no luck.
So please help me.
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So try different bootloader and rom for it also with custom kernel. If software changes doesn't help it could be hardware problem so you should take it to repair service it may require digitizer replacement
As you say you flashed many roms so one of them atleast i believe it had custom kernel
in my opinion you should go to repair service before you make it worse
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So try different bootloader and rom for it also with custom kernel. If software changes doesn't help it could be hardware problem so you should take it to repair service it may require digitizer replacement
As you say you flashed many roms so one of them atleast i believe it had custom kernel
in my opinion you should go to repair service before you make it worse
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Phone sent to repairing shop, let's pray.
Jahanzaib353 said:
Phone sent to repairing shop, let's pray.
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Good luck then. i believe they will fix it
Jahanzaib353 said:
Hi all,
I am really ashamed to post it here but no one was helping me in QA threads.
My problem is, I have lost my phone's touch after rooting and installing cwm with AIO toolkit.
Now smartflashed ICS kdz but nothing happened.
Flashed many custom roms also, no luck.
So please help me.
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This phone is really unbrickable via sw. I happened the same blackout but found the solution searching on xda forum.
When smartflash or cwm do not have good end you must nvflash a new rom (loosing your internal sd data).
Go to Homero2 xda site and download the nvflash rooted 20s rom. After doing it you'll have your 2x working with that GB rom.
Then you can do many things:smartflash an original LG rom or download a custom rom new or old bl, change the bl with AIOT etc... and use cwm for new installation or for restoring backup.
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This phone is really unbrickable via sw. I happened the same blackout but found the solution searching on xda forum.
When smartflash or cwm do not have good end you must nvflash a new rom (loosing your internal sd data).
Go to Homero2 xda site and download the nvflash rooted 20s rom. After doing it you'll have your 2x working with that GB rom.
Then you can do many things:smartflash an original LG rom or download a custom rom new or old bl, change the bl with AIOT etc... and use cwm for new installation or for restoring backup.
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Dear, thnx for your support, my real issue is No Touchscreen after rooting and flashing original as well as custom firmwares. Even aroma installer's touch wasn't working. the phone is in repairing shop and let's see if replacing digitizer fixes it. :/ By the way, when I flashed v20 rom which was NVFLASH packaged, the phone failed to start and suddenly went to black out as soon as LG logo appeared.
Jahanzaib353 said:
Hi all,
I am really ashamed to post it here but no one was helping me in Q&A threads.
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@Jahanzaib353
Now you are really being WARNED here.
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Consider this your friendly warning.
Further XDA Rule violations of any type will escalate to infractions.
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