The thing about custom ROMs... - Nexus 7 General

I've flashed a few custom ROMs + Kernels on my Nexus 7, but I always return to stock. I find stock JB to just be rock-solid, with great battery life.
I've found that most custom ROMs have some tiny issues, and they always bug me. Same with custom kernels. There's always an occasional crash here or there, or some unexpected jerkiness.
But I guess it's always a compromise. If you want features/performance, you'll have to live with bugs/lower battery life. But, being a Nexus, we'll get newer, feature-filled versions of Android right away!
So what about you guys? Do you feel that custom ROMs/kernels are lacking that perfection and finesse the stock ROM has? Or is your custom ROM completely stable with absolutely no bugs?

I love the custom ROMS. No complaints from me. I prefer some version of CM...usually AOKP. They are always upgrading it, so there are some small problems with it at times but I really enjoy it too much to complain or go back to stock. Don't get me wrong stock is very smooth with few problems.
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K3lthuzad said:
I've flashed a few custom ROMs + Kernels on my Nexus 7, but I always return to stock. I find stock JB to just be rock-solid, with great battery life.
I've found that most custom ROMs have some tiny issues, and they always bug me. Same with custom kernels. There's always an occasional crash here or there, or some unexpected jerkiness.
But I guess it's always a compromise. If you want features/performance, you'll have to live with bugs/lower battery life. But, being a Nexus, we'll get newer, feature-filled versions of Android right away!
So what about you guys? Do you feel that custom ROMs/kernels are lacking that perfection and finesse the stock ROM has? Or is your custom ROM completely stable with absolutely no bugs?
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I love the roms and never have problems with them. But i always end up back a stock. Even if the rom i m on :s fine
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Don't know what crap ROMs you've been using but all the ones I've ran were fine. Same goes with kernels.
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Nexus without custom roms . ohh my just sounds wrong.
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Don't know what crap ROMs you've been using but all the ones I've ran were fine. Same goes with kernels.
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I so agree with the above.. Also your opinion is welcome but due note that these developers are doing this as a community effort for FREE.. They improve our devices give us some things Google decided to leave out. Also im not sure you are aware of this or not . But often you will see some of the So called custom rom stuff injected into future GOOGLE STOCK ROMS... Google does watch the development community and use there code from time to time . My guess is alot more then they would tell...
Thanks Guys We love your Bleeding edge technology . We do appreciate everything...

Cyanogenmod works perfectly on both my phone and nexus 7. It's the best of both worlds really. Clean stock look but with a sprinkle of customization.
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You have to figure that 98% of us wouldn't be on this forum if we weren't using or interested in using custom ROMs.
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pre-Gingerbread --> custom ROM required
post-ICS --> stock is fine
My bootloader isn't even unlocked on my N7 and it's only unlocked on my GN so I can flash updates once OTA or images are posted.

I agree that all the roms are great. My favorite is PA, love that rom. But after a while i just feel like going back to stock. But then its not long before i am back on pa.
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I don't like custom Roms on devices that have the latest version of android available. I just root. Adding a custom kernel only makes things unstable.
My current ROM:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892807
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ÜBER™ said:
Don't know what crap ROMs you've been using but all the ones I've ran were fine. Same goes with kernels.
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Denial.
My current ROM:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892807

erica_renee said:
I so agree with the above.. Also your opinion is welcome but due note that these developers are doing this as a community effort for FREE.. They improve our devices give us some things Google decided to leave out. Also im not sure you are aware of this or not . But often you will see some of the So called custom rom stuff injected into future GOOGLE STOCK ROMS... Google does watch the development community and use there code from time to time . My guess is alot more then they would tell...
Thanks Guys We love your Bleeding edge technology . We do appreciate everything...
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I agree with the OP on ROMS, I haven't found one "better" than stock yet. Different yes, more/other customizations, yes. But so far not better. Yes, the devs do this for free, and for their own reasons. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't state our preferences. There are kernels that improve the device greatly, running one myself. But I've tried more than half a dozen custom ROMS and none gave me anything that would make me stick with it. Always went back to stock.
Not knocking all the hard work and effort. It's pretty amazing what some of these devs come up with, wish I had the knowledge and skills they have. Might try to pick up some basics, just so I understand more of everything involved with it. But I'm a system guy, not really a software dev.

Keep in mind we are nitpicking, custom features on new code it takes sometime implement them properly. I am rocking stock at the moment with stock recovery just cause Google is moving fast this time of year.
So take any bug with the custom Roms like this, yes it has more features, you may or may not be affected by bugs. If that bothers you then rock stock. Cause once cm hits stable that's when everything usually falls into place.
Just hopefully we can have less people posting silly complaints on in process releases. Go look in the Ubuntu thread, some user is just posting "its slow" or " there is no reason to use this" as if was a final product makes me smh
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Soldier-2Point0 said:
Denial.
My current ROM:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892807
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Heh... I'm NOT in denial.
I haven't used a single ROM in the android development I only used ones from original development. Slim bean, eos, rasbean... all exceptional ROMs. Currently on rasbean and its by far the best for myself. Used trinity and Francos kernel have had better results with Francos, his is just about an optimised stockish kernel.
Always go with the people that know what they're doing. Not somebody who just builds aosp and throws some scripts and quadrant hacks to allude "speed"
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Nothing better than pure stock Android on a NEXUS device. Period.
It's different on a non nexus Device due to carrier's skins but on a NEXUS device come on people you know there's nothing better than pure stock.
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We shoul be lucky we have so many options for our Nexus 7, Stock ROM is rock stable and smooth , and to add to that we have almost 7-8 different custom ROMS which are also stable each with their own features and 3-4 different kernels to play with
I am flashing different ROM every 4-5 days
Play around people thats what I like about Android - complete control of your device and Nexus - quick latest stock updates and lots of custom development

Agreed, I prefer stock rom, but also I like to root it, and change fonts...

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Heh... I'm NOT in denial.
I haven't used a single ROM in the android development I only used ones from original development. Slim bean, eos, rasbean... all exceptional ROMs. Currently on rasbean and its by far the best for myself. Used trinity and Francos kernel have had better results with Francos, his is just about an optimised stockish kernel.
Always go with the people that know what they're doing. Not somebody who just builds aosp and throws some scripts and quadrant hacks to allude "speed"
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How are the latest build of rasbean. I only used build one or two.
Any chance you can link me to them?
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I'm not too into the roms in android development either, the ones in original development are pretty damn good though and eclipse Rom is really fast, I was into the stock only phase till 4.1.2 and imo development seem a lot better and roms just seemed actually faster than stock to me, rasbean, eclipse, pa, and bugless beast seem to do the trick for me
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Well you obviously haven't tried the RasBeanjelly ROM from rascarlo. When you try that one and the latest Trinity D-07 kernel, then you can talk about going back to Stock ROM.

leelaa said:
How are the latest build of rasbean. I only used build one or two.
Any chance you can link me to them?
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http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/?rom=rasbeanjelly&device=grouper
But no tablet UI, so no good for me. Great apart from that!
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Why CM Rom? What makes it that good? Why do people prefer using it?

I have used Galaxy SL and am using Galaxy Note.
Many people were and are complaining about Stock Roms, either ICS or GB for both of the phones I use.
They say that Camera has a pink problem, GPS does not lock quickly, Video recording is not good, it is laggy, etc etc.
But same people are dying for CM Roms which have lots of bugs. Even CM 7.2 has wifi and video recording bugs for i9003.
Even stock Roms do not have those problems, and many latest stock roms are really good, people are not happy with them.
I do not see any reason to mention about Note stock Roms, especially ICS kernels and roms. They are very very stable without any bugs.
However, many people bricked their phones while they are trying to flash CM10 to their Notes.
OK. I accept that one year old stock roms were not good as much as they should be. But this is not the case anymore.
But still many people are ready to die for CM even if it has many bugs. They complain for stock but lose themselves for CM
Now, could someone please explain me what makes CM Roms that better? And even if they have lots of bugs people are using them as daily driver?
Regards
Maybe just for fun
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You obviously have not tried Paranoid Android.
ardicli2000 said:
I have used Galaxy SL and am using Galaxy Note.
Many people were and are complaining about Stock Roms, either ICS or GB for both of the phones I use.
They say that Camera has a pink problem, GPS does not lock quickly, Video recording is not good, it is laggy, etc etc.
But same people are dying for CM Roms which have lots of bugs. Even CM 7.2 has wifi and video recording bugs for i9003.
Even stock Roms do not have those problems, and many latest stock roms are really good, people are not happy with them.
I do not see any reason to mention about Note stock Roms, especially ICS kernels and roms. They are very very stable without any bugs.
However, many people bricked their phones while they are trying to flash CM10 to their Notes.
OK. I accept that one year old stock roms were not good as much as they should be. But this is not the case anymore.
But still many people are ready to die for CM even if it has many bugs. They complain for stock but lose themselves for CM
Now, could someone please explain me what makes CM Roms that better? And even if they have lots of bugs people are using them as daily driver?
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CM(At least CM9) is really quite stable on the note, I have never had any problems with it.
I personaly use it as my daily drive for a few reasons:
I find it gives better battery life
I Love the stock ICS look over samsungs touchwiz
CM9 uses much less RAM giving more ram for apps, giving better multitasking and also much more RAM for running a linux GUI
I have used CM roms since my HTC magic CyanogenMod 4 FTW! (infact I might have been running early than that but I really dont remember)
personally ive used CM builds but never felt like ive wanted to use them as my daily drivers because they just lack too many built in features of the stock rom
im not the type of person to get a stripped down rom and download 1000 apps to make it how i want it
id rather use the stock rom, only download 10 apps and have everything there
Mainly it uses a safe kernel which is emmc cap erase command disabled which prevents from our device from bricking.
In CM(/AOSP/AOKP most of the logging/Samsung crap applications were removed so that your phone runs fast. Its just about 140-160 MB. You can feel the difference in size. lol
Its very stable compared to other roms.
You will see a lot of features put it up in rom.
Etc Etc
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You obviously have not tried Paranoid Android.
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1+ touchwiz is only a great ui until you experience something different, something greater.
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as said from other users, best ROM for the International N7000 Galaxy Note is the ParanoidAndroid
I was using aosp in my smaller phones. Galaxy s2 for example because i can mod them like changong dpi and so on, and the stock rpms for gs2 were so bad, but with my new note i think the stock roms are more stable and battery friendly than aosp, also yhe kernel development for aosp isn't so great as fow TW Roms, and this my 1st reason to use stock, you know i was flashing 2-3 kernels/day in my s2
BTW: You can remove all crap in the stock rom to have agood rolunning rom.
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I was using aosp in my smaller phones. Galaxy s2 for example because i can mod them like changong dpi and so on, and the stock rpms for gs2 were so bad, but with my new note i think the stock roms are more stable and battery friendly than aosp, also yhe kernel development for aosp isn't so great as fow TW Roms, and this my 1st reason to use stock, you know i was flashing 2-3 kernels/day in my s2
BTW: You can remove all crap in the stock rom to have agood rolunning rom.
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I think in the same way also.
CM lacks lots of stuff from Samsung craps. That's OK. butn it also lack lots of thing I daily use.
Besides I tried ADW Launcher. It really sucks. Nova is far more better and smoother.
Also some people claim that it drains less battery and it is fast. It is obvious that they did not use Notecore v9 with TW
I thas been 1 day and I still have %70 battery. And can't tell how awesome it is. Just check the thread...
As for ram, my phone uses ram between 500-600 mb. There are still 200 mb rams. Which is fine and enough for me.
Also it is really easy to remove some crappy stuff from samsung when you are rooted. (to be rooted takes only three minutes or maybe less )
It is OK some people like it and use it. I am of course fine with that.
But what I mean is CM is not superior to stock or TW based Roms, at least not anymore...
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But I cannot understand why people like stcok roms with some modification
its all personal preference.
like spen/ intevration of pen and samsung apps use stock
like rom to be close to android original source and above mentioned advantages use cm9/aoskp. you wont have full spen and other samsung apps.
whichever you like
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baz77 said:
its all personal preference.
like spen/ intevration of pen and samsung apps use stock
like rom to be close to android original source and above mentioned advantages use cm9/aoskp. you wont have full spen and other samsung apps.
whichever you like
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Then the answer is that people prefer it because of their preferences
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No matter what rom i try, i always end up going back to CM.
The main reason i'm on CM is for the speed and the features.
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CM = AOSP. AOSP = Android how it was designed and intended to be.
For me, User Interface is the most important factor in choosing the OS. Android was far behind iOS and WP7. It changed since ICS and now JB made it even better than iOS. Pure awesomeness of WP7 interface is a whole other story, not commenting on the OS itself - its UI is simply amazing. Back to UI preferences...It has to be responsive, fast and well designed ( that means visually attractive and coherent ). For example, TouchWiz is terrible for me, it makes my phone look like cheap chinese rip-off. I'm sorry, that's just my opinion, i don't want to offend anyone. The only overlay i like is Sony's TimeScape, although i still prefer AOSP. Why ? Simply because it's better designed, coherent and smoother - so it makes my user experience a lot more satisfying.
For the Note, best ROM is still Paranoid Rom for me. Firstly because of the safe kernel and secondly I can easily overclock and under volt it without much hassles.
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Well it all depends...when I had the captivate Cm9 was by far the best experience. So I came to the note with the same expectations but sadly cm9 and the likes are still not on par with Samsung ROMs in speed or features.
I still flash newer versions as I expect them to be better at some point but at this time..still not there. I use CleanNote Rom.
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Leechoonhwee said:
For the Note, best ROM is still Paranoid Rom for me. Firstly because of the safe kernel and secondly I can easily overclock and under volt it without much hassles.
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Which kernel do you use for over clocking?
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Fast and Very Light ROM

Hi,
I'm looking for a fast and light ROM. I have a Nexus 4 now so my tablet is pretty much just used for taking notes at University and watching the occasional YouTube video.
I looked and managed to find AOKP M6 Slim, however this seems to be discontinued and as a result, outdated.
If installing a more feature-heavy ROM and removing features is viable, could someone point me in the right direction to do that?
Thanks in advance.
codefireX.
Best ROM available, performance wise.
Still very rich in features and customization. Includes option to turn off nearly all aftermarket customizations and features, besides performance ones.
I highly suggest pairing with motley kernel.
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Cm10.1
Super close to stock. They're really up on responsible coding. Nothing that goes against AOSP. All about just working.
I usually go in through titanium backup and remove programs I don't need
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I like Paranoid Android but you are going to get a different response from everyone. PA runs really smooth for me. It is not as feature filled as a lot of the other roms but gives some nice customization options. PIE control is also really nice as it allows you to take advantage of the entire screen.
The bottom line is that the only way to find the best ROM for you is to do some research and flash a few different ones. Try them for a few days and then switch if you are not pleased/get bored.
liquid smooth
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Rasbean. But that's the benefit of owning a nexus, you have so many options.
But I'm pretty positive once you flash rasbean, you won't flash anything else. I would advise flashing other roms first and then go to rasbean. You'll notice the difference.
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Carbon is smooth and customizable. My new favorite
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I love that everyone posted a different ROM.
I fell in love with Xylon, it has A TON of features and customizations. I think it borrows (kang) popular features from a lot of ROMs and all the features are optional. Not to mention the ROM is super fast and smooth which I wouldn't expect from A ROM with so many features.
I personally use the custom faux kernel with it, makes the ROM that much slicker, and my battery lasts for an entire day.
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To all Cm 10.1 users
I'm on stock ROM 4.2.2 , it's pretty fast stable and battery life is much much better than my previous phone GS3.
CM10.1 was unstable on GS3 and had alot of bugs.
Any annoying bugs on Cm10.1 for N4?
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uronfire said:
To all Cm 10.1 users
I'm on stock ROM 4.2.2 , it's pretty fast stable and battery life is much much better than my previous phone GS3.
CM10.1 was unstable on GS3 and had alot of bugs.
Any annoying bugs on Cm10.1 for N4?
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The bugs on the Samsung are due to the difficulty obtaining sources from Samsung. No such problem on the Nexus, and CyanogenMod is as stable as stock and you get the extra features to boot.
ALL of the roms for the Nexus 4 are fast because the phone is fast. I doubt anyone could tell the difference without running benchmarks so you should really just try a few and make a choice based on which feature set you like.
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dr.m0x said:
The bugs on the Samsung are due to the difficulty obtaining sources from Samsung. No such problem on the Nexus, and CyanogenMod is as stable as stock and you get the extra features to boot.
ALL of the roms for the Nexus 4 are fast because the phone is fast. I doubt anyone could tell the difference without running benchmarks so you should really just try a few and make a choice based on which feature set you like.
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You sir are correct. CM10 on Nexus 4 is the best combination of lightweight and customisable so far that I've seen.
This is borderline a "which is the best ROM" thread and we all know how those turn out. Every ROM I've ever seen claims to be "light and fast" either directly or indirectly..
To the OP.. There are piles and piles of people making ROMs and kernels for this phone. It's one of the most active development communites I've seen in ages. Take advantage of it! No one can pick one for you.. Drop by the development forums, read, read, then read some more.. Pick 5 ROMs that sound up your alley and give them a try.. I'd suggest a ROM a week until you find one you are satisfied with.
Goodluck and enjoy your Nexus!
Best part about coming to a Nexus forum is being confused about what ROM to flash. Always so many great ones to choose from. lol. :laugh:
So damn true, there are so many ROM's from so many great developers you do really get lost even when going through all of the topics.
So the best bet would be to try it for yourself and flash a few ROM's until you find the one you like.
P.S - this phone is so quick so i doubt really anyone can find a difference in performance between Rom's.
Have fun
^ there is a difference but I feel it lies within the individual kernels. I've been testing kernels for about two weeks and find myself always coming back to trinity 97, even with 4.2.2 its smooth and battery life is insane. I've bounced from ROM to ROM and find xylon the smoothest. Once rasbean goes 4.2.2 I'll give it a shot. There are so many Roms and they are all *good. *everyone has their opinions and all the devs here put a lot of work and time in and all deserve the respect they get. As far as a “light" ROM goes slim bean would be the lightest coming in at under 110mb zip file, then you'll need gapps and they have minimal gapps available at around 25mb.
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I love that everyone posted a different ROM.
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Hence, why these threads are so pointless.
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Roms etc. to check out?

Howdy.
Took advantage of the latest google offer to get myself a Nexus 4 - my Razr i just had literally no development and a lot of apps wouldn't even run due to x86 architecture! Arggh!
So anyway, mine is arriving soon (hopefully) and I'd like some pointers on what to check out first - Cyanogen is always worth considering of course
I mainly look for a good kernal to save me power but not skimp out on horse power when needed - a good deep sleep/idle function
Also a lightweight rom which is very snappy, I'm sure I'll find some roms to love based on the sheer amount of development on this section! Send your suggestions in and I'll be sure to check them out! :good::good::good:
mrapoc said:
Howdy.
Took advantage of the latest google offer to get myself a Nexus 4 - my Razr i just had literally no development and a lot of apps wouldn't even run due to x86 architecture! Arggh!
So anyway, mine is arriving soon (hopefully) and I'd like some pointers on what to check out first - Cyanogen is always worth considering of course
I mainly look for a good kernal to save me power but not skimp out on horse power when needed - a good deep sleep/idle function
Also a lightweight rom which is very snappy, I'm sure I'll find some roms to love based on the sheer amount of development on this section! Send your suggestions in and I'll be sure to check them out! :good::good::good:
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First, Franco kernel is amazing ! make sure to set governor CPU on "interactive" and GPU on "ondemand".
MBQ_'s Vanir is by far the snappiest i'v experienced (and I have flashed dem roms ).
Me personally, I find Stock + Franco to work the best.
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First, Franco kernel is amazing ! make sure to set governor CPU on "interactive" and GPU on "ondemand".
MBQ_'s Vanir is by far the snappiest i'v experienced (and I have flashed dem roms ).
Me personally, I find Stock + Franco to work the best.
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Awesome I'll make sure to check it out! Obviously each rom is going to be good for different things but having never owned a nexus device I'm usually romming to get rid of bloatware from motorola/HTC etc. so I suppose the advantages are usually additional features for nexus devices
mrapoc said:
Awesome I'll make sure to check it out! Obviously each rom is going to be good for different things but having never owned a nexus device I'm usually romming to get rid of bloatware from motorola/HTC etc. so I suppose the advantages are usually additional features for nexus devices
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Exactly Best rom the has a lot of features, while maintaining preformance, stability and battery life is deffinatly Paranoid Android. They do amazing innovation in the Android field. Im flashing latest PA build as we speak.
nathan96 said:
Exactly Best rom the has a lot of features, while maintaining preformance, stability and battery life is deffinatly Paranoid Android. They do amazing innovation in the Android field. Im flashing latest PA build as we speak.
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Sounds great
Put it this way, i went from HTC desire where I could change roms weekly - finally settling on oxygen which was totally stock android and great
Then Razr i - it took 7 months or something to even get jelly bean, 0 roms and now we finally have like two to choose from? They are good in terms of i'm not a developer and i appreciate what they do, but both are riddled with bugs
mrapoc said:
Sounds great
Put it this way, i went from HTC desire where I could change roms weekly - finally settling on oxygen which was totally stock android and great
Then Razr i - it took 7 months or something to even get jelly bean, 0 roms and now we finally have like two to choose from? They are good in terms of i'm not a developer and i appreciate what they do, but both are riddled with bugs
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Well, you are going to enjoy the Nexus experience
Wellcome!
Saves me the hassle of creating a thread like this.
So I guess my nexus ( which will hopefully arrive later) will be getting PA.
Do I unlock the bootloader with "fastboot OEM unlock" to flash custom recoveries etc? I come from a HTC phone so forgive if this question sounds stupid to you
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Oxious119 said:
Saves me the hassle of creating a thread like this.
So I guess my nexus ( which will hopefully arrive later) will be getting PA.
Do I unlock the bootloader with "fastboot OEM unlock" to flash custom recoveries etc? I come from a HTC phone so forgive if this question sounds stupid to you
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Glad it can be of help - i dont want to take away from other developers of roms, but a starting place is always handy especially considering the sheer amount of development this phone has!
Anyway, i'll be following this guide when I get mine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGZuxeTvWhY
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=n0In32vjxIg
I've never really liked PA because of the different modes (phone, phablet, tablet, etc) would make if hard to modify everything easily for me (but thats cause i dont like phablet or tablet modes, prefer stock phone style)... Im using crDroid and it runs great with purified kernel. Ive tried Vanir and that one also was pretty good
You should do what i did, flash a few and test them out. They all have different variations of features...
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I've never really liked PA because of the different modes (phone, phablet, tablet, etc) would make if hard to modify everything easily for me (but thats cause i dont like phablet or tablet modes, prefer stock phone style)... Im using crDroid and it runs great with purified kernel. Ive tried Vanir and that one also was pretty good
You should do what i did, flash a few and test them out. They all have different variations of features...
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Yeh I'm looking for a shortlist of the best of the best really
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Yeh I'm looking for a shortlist of the best of the best really
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And you have them... PA, crDroid, and Vanir to start...
Welcome!
I love customizing everything, so from the beginning I was on AOKP. Loved it but i think it was a little heavier than necessary..
after that I used Xylon - ( now Uxylon) which was awesome, smooth and fast, plenty of features.. but its still 4.2.2, so I had to leave it behind eventually.
Currently I'm on Slim Rom Beta, 4.3 and I'm loving it. So give it a try!
Rocking Purity & AK kernel today and loving it
Most of the roms are good in their own way...
if you want speed or customization...
Slimbean is great and of course psx
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You can also check a thread in general about a poll on which rom people are using. i mean, just based from that, you can have the number of nexus 4 users, what the best rom in common people use (you wouldn't know your best if you hadn't tried the others right?) and just a few mods also you can use that will give you what you want. Just have fun in the mako forum and all the best mate :good:
Rasbeanjelly and PSX are great if you are looking for a pure and latest AOSP experience.
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Vanir, PSX, Rasbean
neo kernel, faux kernel, Hells core, AK JSS
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Got the phone, unlocked, flashed latest pa and xposed. I'm very satisfied so far. My HTC one s didn't come close to this at all.
Now I have 2 questions. What's this JSS and JWW all about?
And can anyone recommend a kernel for PA?
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(vent) Aicp, the relief I've needed.

I'm an aosp guy. For some reason TW is just wrong in my mind. As a Galaxy S4 users go, Sprint users kind of get the shaft on a lot of cool builds but luckily the whole merging business has made that easier to deal with. That said "plain" CM is not enough.I like all the customizing, and man do I spend my time on all kinds of cool features.
I don't really want to flash a ton of different ROMs, but sometimes I want to try something new out. But man there will be an awesome ROM that does EVERYTHING. And then it just fundamentally doesn't actually work. Nobody has that problem but you or the dev tells you its your fault, or someone is telling you not to ***** and use the stable. Backing up flashing settling in repeat.
So I'm on aicp and it works. And well. And has tons of the expected features. Maybe you like what you are using or this doesn't change your mind about how you feel. But man.
Churchey360 has been putting up quite a few ROMs lately, under the radar. And man am I happy right now. Until next flash anyway
Most tw users respect aosp
I hate how aosp users never respect tw at all
Everyone has their own preference don't bash on it
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Nothing against aosp.. but CMs KK sucks... its garbage! I look at the thread daily to check and see if CM has released anything tasty.... but no! Just pages and pages of " this doesnt work " ...and " blah blah FCs.. , no sound...no signal....no.mms....exc exc.....they fix one thing just to break 2 other things......
I ALWAYS used CM when i have my EVO and HTC HERO.. CM was always the way to go.... but now? 4 and 5 months worth of nightlies and not a.single damn one is 100000% flawless..
On the other hand, i. Have tried other aosp roms that are CM based and they are just fine!!! Beanstalk, liquid....exc exc... all CM based and work amazing! Id use one of these roms if you perfer CM over TW...
FLAME me if you will.. but today TW is the way to go..
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..oh sorry i didnt add....thank churchey for adding more aosp roms... hopefully you and a few folks here can get together and mold these roms into dailys!
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chris-allen said:
Nothing against aosp.. but CMs KK sucks... its garbage! I look at the thread daily to check and see if CM has released anything tasty.... but no! Just pages and pages of " this doesnt work " ...and " blah blah FCs.. , no sound...no signal....no.mms....exc exc.....they fix one thing just to break 2 other things......
I ALWAYS used CM when i have my EVO and HTC HERO.. CM was always the way to go.... but now? 4 and 5 months worth of nightlies and not a.single damn one is 100000% flawless..
On the other hand, i. Have tried other aosp roms that are CM based and they are just fine!!! Beanstalk, liquid....exc exc... all CM based and work amazing! Id use one of these roms if you perfer CM over TW...
FLAME me if you will.. but today TW is the way to go..
]..oh sorry i didnt add....thank churchey for adding more aosp roms... hopefully you and a few folks here can get together and mold these roms into dailys!
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yeah man this wasn't in defense of CM, I was actually saying that CM is just not for me because it doesn't have as much features as countless other roms do. And yet, its still way more stable than say, Beanstalk KK (which I LOVED on 4.3, but now doesn't give us prebuilt nightlies and netflix never work), or Vanir (which never worked perfectly, and now doesn't work at all).
Also this wasn't meant to bash TW. I'm very aware of how people swear by it, and if you like it, thats on you. This post wasn't about TW vs AOSP, but how I'm finally happy to have an AOSP rom on KK that I can relax with. Honest! :angel:
Definitely did hit the thanks and rated. Unfortunately I'm not able to actually post in the dev forums to tell him.
No..i hear ya.. im not gung ho for either.. i was just saying how in MY past , CM was the shizzil... now today with KK, and even JB, it is HARD to find a flawless CM rom... not CM BASED, but CM itself... same goes with MIUI too.. in the GB and ICS versions, it was neat, now your licky to get it to boot.....But this could all be to the new codes and strings.. not sure.. i wasnt banging any particular rom or dev, just CM in general.. hell im glad somebody here knows what they are doing because if i tried to release a rom, there would be a crap load of BRICKS !
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Nothing against aosp.. but CMs KK sucks... its garbage! I look at the thread daily to check and see if CM has released anything tasty.... but no! Just pages and pages of " this doesnt work " ...and " blah blah FCs.. , no sound...no signal....no.mms....exc exc.....they fix one thing just to break 2 other things......
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This has always been my experience with CM, from the EVO to the S2, S3, S4, and Note 8. Some of the CM-based ROMs are pretty good, but none are unfortunately as good as TW. Truth be told, I have no issues with TW.
If you want an aosp rom that works out of the box, try SlimKat.
Everything works the way is supposed to, no bugs, and it has lots of options for customization... Just look at the thread , there are not that many posts because everything works, no complaints.
Can't say SlimKat has really filled my needs as much as some others, and for some reason on the S4 the dpi isn't as easy to deal with as it was on the E4GT. But I definitely get the appeal, it's pretty solid.
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This has always been my experience with CM, from the EVO to the S2, S3, S4, and Note 8. Some of the CM-based ROMs are pretty good, but none are unfortunately as good as TW. Truth be told, I have no issues with TW.
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Yeah, It's not like I haven't tried it. If it was genuinely something I wanted to be into, I definitely would have stuck with it. But I just find AOSP roms to be a more fluid experience for me. TW hadn't shown me any significant advantage.
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If you want an aosp rom that works out of the box, try SlimKat.
Everything works the way is supposed to, no bugs, and it has lots of options for customization... Just look at the thread , there are not that many posts because everything works, no complaints.
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crisp714 said:
Can't say SlimKat has really filled my needs as much as some others, and for some reason on the S4 the dpi isn't as easy to deal with as it was on the E4GT. But I definitely get the appeal, it's pretty solid.
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I am on the same page as op, I DO like TW, but I like customizations more. I've tested most roms out (TW & AoSP based), slimkat is solid.. no issues with that rom at all (aside from theme support). I then tested AiCP, wow, that rom is 100% perfect for me. I am not a heavy BT user so that issue hasent affected me but my S4 will stay on AiCP until theres a TW build that supports all those features
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Quickly turned into a best rom thread, which we do not allow here as they attract unnecessary arguments.
Thread closed. Take this to the off topic threads, thanks.

How often do you change ROMs ?

Just curious on how often you guys change ROMs or how you go about picking your daily driver ?
I have one ROM in particular I use everyday, but I've been on a flashing spree the past several weeks as there are lots of great options. The ROM I am using as my everyday is b/c it does not have any issues/bugs and works 100%. There is another ROM that I really like as well that has more options than my current one, but it has so many bugs and errors that I cannot use it for daily use. I've tried on several occasions, but there were too many errors.
I switch between Chroma and Pure Nexus, both super great ROMs, they have identical update schedules so I do one build chroma, one pure nexus build... I find that Pure Nexus is waaay more stable and has better battery life than Chroma, but Chroma works good with my carrier no matter the kernel. Pure Nexus + stock PN kernel has bugs with my carrier's connection so I flash HellsCore.
Some comments on Reddit (/r/Nexus6 mainly) say that ROMs "deteriorate" and most users switch to stock Google factory images + GravityBox from Xposed or Cataclysm MOD (too sad it died). I will try that soon since I notice lags, bluetooth disconnections, really poor battery life (like 2 hours SOT and 4 hours stand by) in both Chroma and Pure Nexus after a few weeks, using Greenify MM version with Aggresive Doze and the other option I cannot remember. I also have WLD and Amplify.
I stick to one as the main one, snd flash other about once a week.
Use to switch alot just out of curiousity, but lately as I find myself getting older and busier I stick to whats stable and gets the job done with little issues. And for me that's Chroma rom, I've had no issues with it whatsoever since I've been on it for the past 4months.
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mikeprius said:
Just curious on how often you guys change ROMs or how you go about picking your daily driver ?
I have one ROM in particular I use everyday, but I've been on a flashing spree the past several weeks as there are lots of great options. The ROM I am using as my everyday is b/c it does not have any issues/bugs and works 100%. There is another ROM that I really like as well that has more options than my current one, but it has so many bugs and errors that I cannot use it for daily use. I've tried on several occasions, but there were too many errors.
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Been on many roms across a handful of devices and on the N6 I'd stay with stock + Cata mod forever but stock + gravity/xposed gets the job done. Viper sound mod & LMT launcher are always installed too.
So sad that the Cata mod developer was pushed out of XDA by haters. Cata mod was the hands down best thing I've ever used.
switching ROMs.. what's the point? the only times I ever switch ROMs is finding one that suits me. after I find a ROM that suits me, I never switch Roms. what the point of switching ROMs after that? from my experience, I see many "kids" switching Roms, but many adults tend to stay with one ROM.
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switching ROMs.. what's the point? the only times I ever switch ROMs is finding one that suits me. after I find a ROM that suits me, I never switch Roms. what the point of switching ROMs after that? from my experience, I see many "kids" switching Roms, but many adults tend to stay with one ROM.
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Even though you find something that already works, variety is always good.....................Just ask Tiger Woods.
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Even though you find something that already works, variety is always good.....................Just ask Tiger Woods.
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variety is great, but not through roms. and what kind of variety? some extra "features" that I'll never use? what the point if that kind of variety? I do find many things to change around, but the roms are all basically the same. sure, some have added other features, or some theming changes. for me, the most important thing is that everything that is in the ROM works properly.
oh, and ask Tiger Woods about his opinion on variety today, it won't be the same answer that you got out of him several years ago..
A few a week before i decide which ROMs I prefer. Then I'll stick with a ROM for 6+ months if it's stable with good battery life and has most of the features I want. Currently using Pure Nexus with ElementalX and don't plan on switching any time soon.
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My name says it all....
simms22 said:
switching ROMs.. what's the point? the only times I ever switch ROMs is finding one that suits me. after I find a ROM that suits me, I never switch Roms. what the point of switching ROMs after that? from my experience, I see many "kids" switching Roms, but many adults tend to stay with one ROM.
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so im an adult??
im staying with stock rom wit h a custom kernel and its been running for almost 3 weeks now
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shayneflashindaily said:
My name says it all....
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nice name..
reyscott1968 said:
so im an adult??
im staying with stock rom wit h a custom kernel and its been running for almost 3 weeks now.
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possibly
Been with Pure Nexus ROM for the past 3 months now alongside Hells Core Kernel. Only time to switch ROMS is if it causes battery drain or performance issues. Also, the busier you get whether it be work or college, etc., the less time you have to care about things like this. Kind of what simms said
I don't that much anymore been using croma and Pure for a good while I normally like to do a good clean wipe every so often then I may see what's happening with diff roms but pure is my go to. Now back in the og Evo and s2 days would swap every other day because every rom had its flaws.
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seabro01 said:
A few a week before i decide which ROMs I prefer. Then I'll stick with a ROM for 6+ months if it's stable with good battery life and has most of the features I want. Currently using Pure Nexus with ElementalX and don't plan on switching any time soon.
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That's my exact setup and it's fantastic
I've tried a few different kernels but I like Pure Nexus with hellscore and that's what I use. Pure Nexus with elite kernel is also good...l used to use kernel auditor for hellscore, but I just deleted it and use hellscore right out of the box.
I had the kernel set up from this video I watched and used the settings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLkRAVUnxE4
I undervolted to -35 instead of -25 and dropped a few more settings lower than he had with zero lag. He could have been a little more aggressive in stepping down. Worked great. Good SOT.

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