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New Noob On the Block

Hi All,
Like the title reads iam a new noob on the block...got my first WM device 9 months back and it was love at first sight...I started with a Imate - JAQ and now have a Tilt. Learning how to flash was a interesting and at times a frustrating experience especially with my Asus P527 but it was a rewarding experience nonetheless since iam now a flash junkie .
Have seen a lot of people who come into this new and ask questions on the forums which often go unanswered, for those who dont understand this phenomenon let me say that the best way to learn is by yourself and doing your research before coming up with questions since anything you learn the hard way stays with you.
Next Steps: - Well i think cooking my own ROM would be a worthy journey . Also wanted to say thanks to all the great people who run this place and provide information which makes life easier for the likes for me .
Cheers and keep rocking
Prabh

mikechannon said:
Oooooh a Noob with loads of wisdom - an all too rare phenomenon!
Welcome.
So..... come on then where's your ROM? That's a couple of hours you've had now... have you been wasting time?
Mike
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well not exactly reading up on the subject in the wiki ...got the kitchen downloaded and other assorted ingredients are downloading (slow connection what can i say ) ...if i dont manage to blow it all up i think i should have something later tonite ...
Cheers

mikechannon said:
You little devil you
Mike
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Lol..well whaddya know...my very first ROM's outta the kitchen ..though i doubt it'll be anything much to write home about ..iam getting a feeling iam just scratching the surface here...ohh well time to flash and test ...

thats a very good job mate
and its not like 18 posts in 1 day
18 in 9 months
maybe xda shold have medal type things for achievements like this
rory

rorydaredkign said:
thats a very good job mate
and its not like 18 posts in 1 day
18 in 9 months
maybe xda shold have medal type things for achievements like this
rory
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Is was given a Star once...
*Swells up with pride like an Olymic medalist whilst God save the Queen plays*
Does that count?
Dave

Some_sense_pro_v1

The Missing Rom, Sense 1, 2,3 are more than just HTC's UI. They are the way we Interact with our Incredible. As i write this There are Dev's and Dev teams making great strides on what they feel will be the greatest ROM. I have spent many years working on car project only to find that I am never happy with it. A good projects are never finished. With all the Sense rom's you get flavors of sense. With the senseless roms you get no Sense. With this rom you get some Sense and Launcher Pro. I have removed everything that doesn't work with Launcher Pro.
This is my first shot at a Rom, I plan to continue learning and devolving.
Sense widgets gone
Battery draining apps gone
Rom zip file is less than 110 MB
Sense clock and calander still there
camera works
If you want apps install them, the market is full.
Thanks to Jakresge, and every Dev. on this site.
http://db.tt/dwaOmCn
From a computer running Windows XP

reserved.............

I am a bit confused as to what this is?

Sense 1, rose removed, launcher pro added, Rom
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tjamscad said:
Sense 1, rose removed, launcher pro added, Rom
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...That's it?
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solarpolitiks said:
...That's it?
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Yes, it works
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Hmmmm...
¦*¦HYBRID¦*¦SPEED¦*¦ by ws83

I request to have this thread removed. No offense to the OP - but adding a different launcher and some other minor tweaks does not justify a ROM.
Thank you for your creativity and time spent on your project though.

Lmao ill try it..why not? Maybe its good you never know
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tincbtrar said:
I request to have this thread removed. No offense to the OP - but adding a different launcher and some other minor tweaks does not justify a ROM.
Thank you for your creativity and time spent on your project though.
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What does
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Give it a chance guys. What have all sense 1 roms done? Changed little from stock? Exactly.
Youre looking at a crackflashing troll with ORD

No offense either bud. Its just... well... how exactly did you create "your ROM" on your phone?
Did you do a nand and then expect people to flash your back-up?
I don't understand what your doing or why. Normally ROM development takes place on a computer with some knowledge of how things work in these ROMs so we can make them better. And to make them more appealing to the other users of these forums or whoever.
Simply installing Launcher Pro or whatever else does not meen you have created a ROM. You have just installed Launcher Pro to a ROM, that is all.
However, if you would like to get into "real" ROM development there are a many valuable tools and resources in theses very forums to help you get started. Not to mention the devs that roam around here as well that would more than likely be willing to pull you to the side and help you out, provided you just ask them.
I want you to pay attention to this next part ok? The name of this website is called xda- wait for it... wait for it... "DEVELOPERS" yup, xda-developers. Not xda-I installed launcher pro to some craptastic ROM and I expect people to actually use it.com
Until then friend, maybe you should try something else.
Done.

watt9493 said:
Give it a chance guys. What have all sense 1 roms done? Changed little from stock? Exactly.
Youre looking at a crackflashing troll with ORD
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It's not just that but if you remove rosie, why not all HTC widgets, etc?
This is literally deleting one APK and pasting another in its place.

wildstang83 said:
No offense either bud. Its just... well... how exactly did you create "your ROM" on your phone?
Did you do a nand and then expect people to flash your back-up?
I don't understand what your doing or why. Normally ROM development takes place on a computer with some knowledge of how things work in these ROMs so we can make them better. And to make them more appealing to the other users of these forums or whoever.
Simply installing Launcher Pro or whatever else does not meen you have created a ROM. You have just installed Launcher Pro to a ROM, that is all.
However, if you would like to get into "real" ROM development there are a many valuable tools and resources in theses very forums to help you get started. Not to mention the devs that roam around here as well that would more than likely be willing to pull you to the side and help you out, provided you just ask them.
I want you to pay attention to this next part ok? The name of this website is called xda- wait for it... wait for it... "DEVELOPERS" yup, xda-developers. Not xda-I installed launcher pro to some craptastic ROM and I expect people to actually use it.com
Until then friend, maybe you should try something else.
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A little harsh but funny. Gotta give the guy props for having the balls to post it. I myself made many kitchen built ROMs for personal use and never dared post them. Appears to me that many of the custom ROMSs here are just kitchen builds so what one more?

kzoodroid said:
Appears to me that many of the custom ROMSs here are just kitchen builds so what one more?
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Actually no. No offense bud but I don't think any of the seasoned devs on here use the kitchen to "build" a ROM. All the devs I work with manually port our ROMs peice by peice. Less error in the long run. The only reason I have ever used the kitchen is to deodex, zipalign and sign. I don't even hardly use it for that anymore. 9 times out of 10 the kitchen is not capable of doing the things that we do to our ROMs.
Never ment to crush dreams or whatever with my first response, I just think if we are going to do something that makes changes to or effects other peoples devices we should take the time and do it right.

wildstang83 said:
Actually no. No offense bud but I don't think any of the seasoned devs on here use the kitchen to "build" a ROM. All the devs I work with manually port our ROMs peice by peice. Less error in the long run. The only reason I have ever used the kitchen is to deodex, zipalign and sign. I don't even hardly use it for that anymore. 9 times out of 10 the kitchen is not capable of doing the things that we do to our ROMs.
Never ment to crush dreams or whatever with my first response, I just think if we are going to do something that makes changes to or effects other peoples devices we should take the time and do it right.
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Does that mean you didn't flash it? We all start somewhere. I did not mean to insult anyone. But there is a gap in the Rom selections. I like some of the sense apps that you lose when going senseless. I also don't like the button layout of sense. And the battery draining sense widgets. That is what I have done filled a hole
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wildstang83 said:
Actually no. No offense bud but I don't think any of the seasoned devs on here use the kitchen to "build" a ROM. All the devs I work with manually port our ROMs peice by peice. Less error in the long run. The only reason I have ever used the kitchen is to deodex, zipalign and sign. I don't even hardly use it for that anymore. 9 times out of 10 the kitchen is not capable of doing the things that we do to our ROMs.
Never ment to crush dreams or whatever with my first response, I just think if we are going to do something that makes changes to or effects other peoples devices we should take the time and do it right.
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Good to know that your building your own ROMs. Its hard to tell from all thats posted who to trust as a dev and who's just a hack. No offense to the op. CaptainKrtek had a post in the Eris forum last year about what it takes to be a real dev here, wish I could find it again had some good info in it.

I will update my op I was more/less saying that I am new to this kinda thing and don't call myself a developer like a nurse doesn't call themselves Doctor, or a drafter doesn't call themselves an engineer.
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kzoodroid said:
Good to know that your building your own ROMs. Its hard to tell from all thats posted who to trust as a dev and who's just a hack. No offense to the op. CaptainKrtek had a post in the Eris forum last year about what it takes to be a real dev here, wish I could find it again had some good info in it.
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This thread? Second post....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1121585

tjamscad said:
I will update my op I was more/less saying that I am new to this kinda thing and don't call myself a developer like a nurse doesn't call themselves Doctor, or a drafter doesn't call themselves an engineer.
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If you really want to be a dev then start hanging out in chef central. The advice I had originally said came form captainkrtek actually was from cyanogen. I read it over a year ago when I was playing with dsixda's kitchen and thought of posting my own ROM. I posted a link below as I think its appropriate. Not sure why our dev section here isn't as nice as the Eris forum, they have a lot more info over there and being a former Eris owner I miss it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298

[Q] Removing CM7 from a ROM

Hello,
I just came across a beautiful ROM, called Mokee ROM, but it was based on CM7 which gives poor battery life but the Interface for this was so beautiful, so i just wanted to ask is it Possible to remove only CM7 from the ROM??
It might seems stupid but i don't have enough knowledge about ROM's so just asking the community!

That really is quite an idiotic question
CM7 is the base rom that has been modified to give you all those animations and UI features, you can't have them without the CM7. Its a one whole package buddy, you can't have one without the other.
What you can do is request the developer is to make a similar rom based on stock instead of CM, that is if its even possible to do that.
You should read more about android, it'll give you a better understanding of the android software and what the developers are doing here. Atleast start with basic terminologies like CM7.2, rom, stock firmware, kernel etc.

ayush29k said:
That really is quite an idiotic question
CM7 is the base rom that has been modified to give you all those animations and UI features, you can't have them without the CM7. Its a one whole package buddy, you can't have one without the other.
What you can do is request the developer is to make a similar rom based on stock instead of CM, that is if its even possible to do that.
You should read more about android, it'll give you a better understanding of the android software and what the developers are doing here. Atleast start with basic terminologies like CM7.2, rom, stock firmware, kernel etc.
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Yup. He's right. If you try to remove CM7 from that ROM (which isn't even possible) you'll end up with no system at all.
See, when someone creates a rom, most of them don't start from scratch. They just modify somethings to make it better. And publish their ROM. If you don't like the ROM. You can try making your own. Look up developer 101 by xenon x. Will give you a good understanding.

L M F A O
http://www.youtube.com/embed/C5rJ4g9EMUk​

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We....I... am working on mokee based on stock

CM7 is the base system/rom,you can't remove it

Thats like saying, "can I remove the walls from my house?"
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Lol.
Don't be hard on him folks.
He's just new. And OP himself knows that he sounds stupid.

ahsansmiles said:
Hello,
I just came across a beautiful ROM, called Mokee ROM, but it was based on CM7 which gives poor battery life but the Interface for this was so beautiful, so i just wanted to ask is it Possible to remove only CM7 from the ROM??
It might seems stupid but i don't have enough knowledge about ROM's so just asking the community!
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Lol.... No dude, certainly not at all
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Admit It..
Admit it, all of you were not born with pre-ROM knowledge , all of you asked question, fetched questions and learnt so.... If someone asks a question it really doesn't means he's totally a DUMB! Anyway, NO THANKS for the replies! :silly:

ahsansmiles said:
Admit it, all of you were not born with pre-ROM knowledge , all of you asked question, fetched questions and learnt so.... If someone asks a question it really doesn't means he's totally a DUMB! Anyway, NO THANKS for the replies! :silly:
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Wow....talk about being thankful, maybe you could point out any sarcasm in my post?
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ahsansmiles said:
Admit it, all of you were not born with pre-ROM knowledge , all of you asked question, fetched questions and learnt so.... If someone asks a question it really doesn't means he's totally a DUMB! Anyway, NO THANKS for the replies! :silly:
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Nobody's calling you dumb man, most of us are trying to explain why this is an invalid question and guiding you to what you can do to get all your features without the CM in it.
You read more, come back here after a few weeks and even you will be wondering why you asked that.
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ahsansmiles said:
Admit it, all of you were not born with pre-ROM knowledge , all of you asked question, fetched questions and learnt so.... If someone asks a question it really doesn't means he's totally a DUMB! Anyway, NO THANKS for the replies! :silly:
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whoa, we're only joking
If you stick around xda for a while you'll be the one laughing at people's questions.
No disrespect meant, Tom

ahsansmiles said:
Admit it, all of you were not born with pre-ROM knowledge , all of you asked question, fetched questions and learnt so.... If someone asks a question it really doesn't means he's totally a DUMB! Anyway, NO THANKS for the replies! :silly:
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hahaha.... do not be angry boss. does not mean writing a tendentious tone. start with reading. use the search engine at xda for what you want. welcome at the xda dude....

Hahahha. LOL

hahah well sorry about that i mean i am not harsh for that,i was new to android and i am laughing myself for such a stupid question! lol no option to delete such an idiotic question .... epic!

You're not a developer (rant)

I've read over the last few days multiple posts coming from more than one person that go like ~"I know what you're taking about, I'm a developer too", "dude I'm not a noob I'm a developer too", "I'm better than you, I can develop my custom ROM", and so on.
Truth is...
You're probably not a developer.
Using dsixda's kitchen, UOT kitchen and winzip (and maybe apktools) does not make you a developer.
Following tutorials and copying/pasting smali code does not make you a developer.
You're an interested user, maybe even a themer, but don't be arrogant. Know the difference.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. It's great that everyone is willing to learn, and these methods are a good place to start. But I say again: you're not a developer.
Call yourself an interested user, a ROM cook, a learning newbie, a themer if you're good at that, but not a developer.
Obviously, the same applies to me.
/rant over

You may better specify the answer for
WHO THE DEVELOPER ACTUALLY IS ?
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Well a developer includes in his work researching, designing, implementing, and testing software. A person who develops stand-alone software (that is more than just a simple program) and got involved with all phases of the development (design and code) is a software developer. On the other hand the one that only implements and does the copy paste of the code is called a programmer. I hope that i was specific and i made myself clear.

ok so we are not devs we know that so why make this thread?

GermainZ said:
I've read over the last few days multiple posts coming from more than one person that go like ~"I know what you're taking about, I'm a developer too", "dude I'm not a noob I'm a developer too", "I'm better than you, I can develop my custom ROM", and so on.
Truth is...
You're probably not a developer.
Using dsixda's kitchen, UOT kitchen and winzip (and maybe apktools) does not make you a developer.
Following tutorials and copying/pasting smali code does not make you a developer.
You're an interested user, maybe even a themer, but don't be arrogant. Know the difference.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. It's great that everyone is willing to learn, and these methods are a good place to start. But I say again: you're not a developer.
Call yourself an interested user, a ROM cook, a learning newbie, a themer if you're good at that, but not a developer.
Obviously, the same applies to me.
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Well said!! I too am seeing too much negativity and rudeness towards people who come here to learn.
They are new so might not understand the rules, yet, but they are here to learn so we should help them not tell them they are worthless noobs and dont deserve your help.
We all learn here and thats what makes XDA a good place to hang out.
No one on this forum is better than anyone else sore may be more advanced along the learning curve.
Hello! I am Dom, I am an interested user wanting to learn more about android. I can cut and paste and follow tutorials but I am not a developer.

samrulzzz007 said:
ok so we are not devs we know that so why make this thread?
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If you know that, good. Feel free to disregard this rant.

Im new to xda and I posted in a few wrong sections. Would have thought its the end of the world or something. I didn't do it to make some of you mad. But being mean like some are turns people away from this great community. Treat people like you wanna be treated!!! that's all.
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alex_is_the_1 said:
Im new to xda and I posted in a few wrong sections. Would have thought its the end of the world or something. I didn't do it to make some of you mad. But being mean like some are turns people away from this great community. Treat people like you wanna be treated!!! that's all.
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agree with u.. i think they not supposed to threat other that way.. they should be helping not to be mean.. all of us do mistake.. nobody perfect..
peace no war..

alex_is_the_1 said:
Im new to xda and I posted in a few wrong sections. Would have thought its the end of the world or something. I didn't do it to make some of you mad. But being mean like some are turns people away from this great community. Treat people like you wanna be treated!!! that's all.
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Could not have said it better myself, when I came here I was treated well, seems to be only last few weeks/months?? Still
Be nice.

alex_is_the_1 said:
Im new to xda and I posted in a few wrong sections. Would have thought its the end of the world or something. I didn't do it to make some of you mad. But being mean like some are turns people away from this great community. Treat people like you wanna be treated!!! that's all.
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Nobody here has anything against anyone. Yeah some outbursts are uncalled for. But that is rare. Must be some personal problems or somebody having a bad day. Senior members, contributors,developers etc all have gone through that phase. So dont be offended by anybody's rude behaviour. It wasnt , is and will not be anything personal against anyone. If he ir she has been rude to you....they will realize that later on.
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Androidnow said:
Nobody here has anything against anyone. Yeah some outbursts are uncalled for. But that is rare. Must be some personal problems or somebody having a bad day. Senior members, contributors,developers etc all have gone through that phase. So dont be offended by anybody's rude behaviour. It wasnt , is and will not be anything personal against anyone. If he ir she has been rude to you....they will realize that later on.
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I know that everyone here is human (i guess?) and may have a bad day, but the image that xda passes is that she's not welcoming anyone. It already starts with that noob video that makes me to go through a deep depression. Not complaining about xda, but being nice will bring more people, and sooner or later, more developers, making this community bigger and bigger.

mathm2013 said:
I know that everyone here is human (i guess?) and may have a bad day, but the image that xda passes is that she's not welcoming anyone. It already starts with that noob video that makes me to go through a deep depression. Not complaining about xda, but being nice will bring more people, and sooner or later, more developers, making this community bigger and bigger.
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Lol....No u took it all wrong brother. That video isnt about showing anyone down....i have seen it...rather its an informative one accrding to me.....it clearly tells you that "Noob" isnt welcome. Ofcourse....it good to be warned before you start.....newbie is a good thing....people who do not want to read and ask all silly questions when all of it is already mentioned in the OP or a few pages back....are termed as "noobs". When i joined XDA i didnt even had this phone with me....for 6 months what i did was to read and clarified doubts....used google....It has almost every answer to your question...believe . I am still not a developer,nor a themer nor a rom cook....i dont get to spend much time on pc.....even then this googling and reading has given me enough knowledge to clarify my doubts myself. XDA is not a human or animal.....its all of us together....that video was sarcastic and informative. Such videos dont depress you...its the people here on XDA who are responsible for your depression and happiness. And as far as i know...here people are quiet helpful....just a few "anger bursts" but that i believe is quiet fine and normal... We have people from all cultures and countries. Diffrences do tend to occur.

Where do u suggest to start to learn if I know these "basic" things and I'd like to be a developer of this phone?

wolverinemaister said:
Where do u suggest to start to learn if I know these "basic" things and I'd like to be a developer of this phone?
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This thread is still alive?
There are plenty of tutorials here and in the development section. You can also check the ROM cooking XDA forum.

Androidnow said:
Lol....No u took it all wrong brother. That video isnt about showing anyone down....i have seen it...rather its an informative one accrding to me.....it clearly tells you that "Noob" isnt welcome. Ofcourse....it good to be warned before you start.....newbie is a good thing....people who do not want to read and ask all silly questions when all of it is already mentioned in the OP or a few pages back....are termed as "noobs". When i joined XDA i didnt even had this phone with me....for 6 months what i did was to read and clarified doubts....used google....It has almost every answer to your question...believe . I am still not a developer,nor a themer nor a rom cook....i dont get to spend much time on pc.....even then this googling and reading has given me enough knowledge to clarify my doubts myself. XDA is not a human or animal.....its all of us together....that video was sarcastic and informative. Such videos dont depress you...its the people here on XDA who are responsible for your depression and happiness. And as far as i know...here people are quiet helpful....just a few "anger bursts" but that i believe is quiet fine and normal... We have people from all cultures and countries. Diffrences do tend to occur.
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Yeah, man, you're right. Because of your answer, i've realized that being a noob is not a bad thing. Everyone started as a noob. Act like one is the problem. Starting a new thread to ask if we got jelly bean means asking for a "anger burst". Exactly like you said, by having a Galaxy Ace I/C/M, we got a lot of countries, like Brazil (from me) and countries from Asia. So, thanks for your answer, and sorry for your trouble.

GermainZ what you explained in the first post isn't developing, it's programming.
Everyone can be a developer, as long as they're helping the project, even if its only reporting glitches, bugs etc, they're still developers.
Programming on the other hand requires some experience but isn't that difficult as you think it might be, Just look at python lol, pretty much anyone who knows english can write in that.
I think you might need do a little research before posting such ****ty threads.

Qnrx said:
GermainZ what you explained in the first post isn't developing, it's programming.
Everyone can be a developer, as long as they're helping the project, even if its only reporting glitches, bugs etc, they're still developers.
Programming on the other hand requires some experience but isn't that difficult as you think it might be, Just look at python lol, pretty much anyone who knows english can write in that.
I think you might need do a little research before posting such ****ty threads.
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This is out of context now.
If I remember correctly, when I posted this, there was some kind of flame war going on between ROM cooks/users (not sure what exactly it was about, or who was involved - it doesn't matter). This thread was mostly to show that while everybody appreciates the effort, they shouldn't act as if they are superior. You really should have been there to understand.
The whole OP is exaggerated for that (and FYI, since you mentioned it, I can code basic stuff in C++/Java, and more advanced stuff in Python, tho I prefer Python as it's neat, has one of the best documentations I've seen, and I can execute it directly from within my bash scripts without any extra steps).

Qnrx said:
GermainZ what you explained in the first post isn't developing, it's programming.
Everyone can be a developer, as long as they're helping the project, even if its only reporting glitches, bugs etc, they're still developers.
Programming on the other hand requires some experience but isn't that difficult as you think it might be, Just look at python lol, pretty much anyone who knows english can write in that.
I think you might need do a little research before posting such ****ty threads.
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He wasnt showing anyone down....but he was just clearing the air as there were quite a number of people who were calling themselves developers and were showing some superiority in their behaviour with newbies or even other members.....which in any point is not acceptable. Doesnt matter whether you are recognised developer,themer, elite member or moderator.....here every one is contributing in their own way and every one is in the same level.

Androidnow said:
He wasnt showing anyone down....but he was just clearing the air as there were quite a number of people who were calling themselves developers and were showing some superiority in their behaviour with newbies or even other members.....which in any point is not acceptable. Doesnt matter whether you are recognised developer,themer, elite member or moderator.....here every one is contributing in their own way and every one is in the same level.
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if thats the case then, thank you for clearing everything up.

Qnrx said:
if thats the case then, thank you for clearing everything up.
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And anything else you want to say to Germainz for that " Sh***y thread" comment above?

Beta to Final..."a long wait"

its known that development for our phone is difficult due to lack of hardware sources...still developers are trying to port things up for this...
but its been a quite long time since in the development thread almost all roms are in beta stage..they are reaching to usable stage...I would request devs to speed up the process and please dont put everything under beta for long periods...

I guess that everyone works with blood sweat and tears on their roms. Just have some patience...
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To be honest, very few number of people use this phone... Its not as popular as S3 or S2 (thats the main drawback of most mid range phones)
And out of all those users, only a very few number of people have knowledge about Android (aka the developers).... And since we're always busy with our lives, jobs, exams, classes, etc. So no one can give complete attention to all this...
Yes, after the JB update - this phone got a boost in a "Development" point of view... I mean we now have more ROMs, themes, Mods, etc... But i believe that all we need are more experienced developers (and users) to help the existing developers and contribute something to this phone's dev support...
As Shaaan said, we are all good at something... So why not form a team and utilize it for better and faster development process for this phone
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droidinsane said:
its known that development for our phone is difficult due to lack of hardware sources...still developers are trying to port things up for this...
but its been a quite long time since in the development thread almost all roms are in beta stage..they are reaching to usable stage...I would request devs to speed up the process and please dont put everything under beta for long periods...
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I would demand from you to learn to develop, and make all that betas to be final. How that sounds? You would do that in the speed of the light.
And please turn on the brain for little time and see that all those beta ROMs are mods of CM, that is in beta stage. And we do not have sources to fix all the bugs fast.
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^ What he said, if you can't wait for it, do it yourself.

Tired of this kind of people who can't contribute something other than demanding. Maybe if you can ''DONATE'' thats the least you can do rather than learning how to develop instead of posting nonsense. Ok? Just a suggestion bro.
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nobody is expecting to get something done with the speed of light ....i am just saying that if some project is started wait for the final version should not be this long and cm10.1 was started months ago still no final version then whats the point of starting new projects based on that... as far as time availability i concerned nobody is forcing anyone to start a new stuff and hang up in beta they have their own will to do that...and the one who is tired of people like me i would humbly request you to not comment rather you should contribute community needs you....commenting will make you feel tired...
that was an opinion if you are really hurt by that...please learn to look at things differently

This guy is real piece of work....
Do you even know what beta means ?? If devs hold on to the project until its final, how the hell would they get people to test it ???
As for how long a beta takes, you are in no position to demand anything. Dev's work for free to give you a better phone experience, if you want things done fast, grab a pile of you own money, pay a bunch of people to develop something for you. Whenever someone is doing free work for you, the right thing to do is keep you head down and be grateful that they even share their work with you for free.

Piachnp said:
This guy is real piece of work....
Do you even know what beta means ?? If devs hold on to the project until its final, how the hell would they get people to test it ???
As for how long a beta takes, you are in no position to demand anything. Dev's work for free to give you a better phone experience, if you want things done fast, grab a pile of you own money, pay a bunch of people to develop something for you. Whenever someone is doing free work for you, the right thing to do is keep you head down and be grateful that they even share their work with you for free.
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so now you will tell me what beta means go mate you have more important work to do...
let this forum be what it should be...dont make it a ground for useless arguements...i had an opinion now dont be a teacher here,,

droidinsane said:
nobody is expecting to get something done with the speed of light ....i am just saying that if some project is started wait for the final version should not be this long and cm10.1 was started months ago still no final version then whats the point of starting new projects based on that... as far as time availability i concerned nobody is forcing anyone to start a new stuff and hang up in beta they have their own will to do that...and the one who is tired of people like me i would humbly request you to not comment rather you should contribute community needs you....commenting will make you feel tired...
that was an opinion if you are really hurt by that...please learn to look at things differently
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How can you even expect CM10.1 to work. It's 4.2 based... damn...
And no one says you can't give your opinion, it's just the way you said it. With your post you insulted everyone trying to work on CM etc because according to YOU the development doesn't go as fast as you want.
And don't say: don't play teacher on me I just have an opinion. Because I AM a damn teacher and you need to be taught some patience...
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LOL to those who can't wait. Buy a new phone, more popular ones. Then enjoy it to your heart content. End of story.
There will be more beta's then there will be rc's before final version. If you can't wait, might as well consider buying other device. Your choice. No argument here

droidinsane said:
its known that development for our phone is difficult due to lack of hardware sources...still developers are trying to port things up for this...
but its been a quite long time since in the development thread almost all roms are in beta stage..they are reaching to usable stage...I would request devs to speed up the process and please dont put everything under beta for long periods...
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Please delete this thread. The pointless character of it is beyond any measure.
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Too much fail in this thread
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