JellyBean HSDPA slow ..More of a downgrade than a upgrade! - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

When using jellybean Roms, with every jellybean rom I have tried they are all stuck on Hsdpa 8 which is slow ,, when I am on Gb and Ics when I go into settings about phone it always states network as Hsdpa 11, but when I am on jellybean Roms it always states Hsdpa 8 , what is this all about? how is that possible? is it a bug on jellybean and will it affect data speeds? I have tried different radios and tried a streaming app to see if it rises when needed, it does not, tethering is awful and slow, I expected more from jellybean but its seems like 2 steps forward 3 steps back, limiting the network to Hsdpa 8 is a complete fail.

Well it seems this problem is quite widespread and other have had the same problem, its a real shame as jellybean is really smooth but if using this ROM means being stuck on hsdpa 8 then for me that's not a option, if anyone knows of a fix to up the category please let us know.

The max data speed the i9000 can handle is 7.2Mbps. HSDPA category 8 supports speeds up to 7.2Mbps and category 9 is 10.1Mbps. So even if it says 9 it doesn't mean we can get up to those speeds.
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To be honest that's if the HSDPA: 8 in the settings menu even corresponds to the HSDPA categories, which I'm not sure about. Best thing to do would be internet speed benchmarks on both gingerbread and jellybean then compare.
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That is not entirely correct. Its not just about the theoretical speed and besides I'm not convinced those specs are accurate. In order to support hsupa of 5.76 it would need to support hsdpa 9 .hsdpa 9 supports multiple duplex connections. I have done multiple speed tests on both category 8 and 9 and 8 is roughly 1.5 to 2 mbps slower.

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How to activate HSUPA instead of HSDPA

HSUPA is available at my location and it would be nice for me to improove my upload speed.
I like my ROM but it doesn't support HSUPA. How to switch ON HSUPA? Kaiser Tweaks really does it
I just love it when people post questions that sound like statements to get me excited. And no, I've heard of nothing to let us do that.
blackspawn2 said:
HSUPA is available at my location and it would be nice for me to improove my upload speed.
I like my ROM but it doesn't support HSUPA. How to switch ON HSUPA? Kaiser Tweaks really does it
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I'm probably out of date with some of my figures here, but as I understand it the Kaiser limitations are 3.6Mbit/s download and 384kbit/s upload - originally designed using HSDPA chips and limited with hardware. The HSUPA upload theoretical maximum is 5.76Mbit/s, but is limited to our 384kb/s so no point pushing the boat out for this anyway.
Besides, why go for a mega fast upload speed when the Kaiser doesn't have enough memory capacity to require that sort of upload (<45 secs to dump the whole phone + 16MB card) - unless of course you've got some really good porn that you need to share in a few microseconds before deleting
I found an old 3D where was written that the chip is HSUPA compatible. Whether or not it is enabled in the phone may simply be a matter of a hack.
Well,...maybe the 3D is much too old, forget it!
i agree with peterfnet
peterfnet said:
I just love it when people post questions that sound like statements to get me excited. And no, I've heard of nothing to let us do that.
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To clarify, BlackSpawn, you want to enable HSUPA WHILE keeping HSDPA enabled, correct?
I haven't heard of any mods either to allow the HSUPA to be used, though it is another function of the Qualcomm MSM 7200 chipset used in the Kaiser. Here is some light reading for you that specs HSUPA at up to5.76 Mbps (cat 6). but when you question the htc site, it specs upload at up to 384 kbps (this is what I have found to be true.
This may very well be another instance of HTC not taking full advantage of the chosen chipset, as has been fought on THIS battle field.
If anyone has some good info on enabling HSUPA, please chime in
Stu_Can_Sam said:
To clarify, BlackSpawn, you want to enable HSUPA WHILE keeping HSDPA enabled, correct?
I haven't heard of any mods either to allow the HSUPA to be used, though it is another function of the Qualcomm MSM 7200 chipset used in the Kaiser. Here is some light reading for you that specs HSUPA at up to5.76 Mbps (cat 6). but when you question the htc site, it specs upload at up to 384 kbps (this is what I have found to be true.
This may very well be another instance of HTC not taking full advantage of the chosen chipset, as has been fought on THIS battle field.
If anyone has some good info on enabling HSUPA, please chime in
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This is exactly what I was thinking
erm.. i flash 1 rom before and in the setting menu.. there is and option enabling the HSUPA. but sorry, i forgot what rom is that..
benjat said:
erm.. i flash 1 rom before and in the setting menu.. there is and option enabling the HSUPA. but sorry, i forgot what rom is that..
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I am running the Hyperdragon III january 13 rom.
in the settings under advanced network the is a option to enable HSDPA/HSUPA. Just thought i would let you know this rom has that option.

speedtest.net app

Was curious as to was speeds people are getting when running this app.
On zen's mytouch rom I consistently get >1200 kbps down while on the sprint rom I am getting < 850 kbps down...
On both I get about 600-700 kbps up
I don't understand because I didn't think a rom would affect data speeds.
Can people post their speeds, and if any devs have insight on why the significant speed difference, please enlighten me.
Id expect to see this in dev from a noob, but I certainly didn't expect to see this from you Looney.
VinceOB said:
Id expect to see this in dev from a noob, but I certainly didn't expect to see this from you Looney.
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lol... i said the same thing after posting... but I can't move the thread myself
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thanks... brain fart on my part
it varies pretty greatly but highest was 1452 up and 765 down.
lowest was 456 down and 531 up.
I've always gotten great speed here in Atlanta. I am using Zen's rom and it seems once I switched to this rom, my speeds increased dramatically from the sprint release rom for 2.1.
2151 Down and 646 Up Highest
1751 Down and 711 Up Lowest
I'm getting constant 1400 d/l and 8 - 900 u/l on Zen's ROM
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Here in Austin, I probably average around 1000 up and 600 down.
I have a question. What does everyone get on wi-fi? I ask because my wi-fi is never any faster than my 3G. I've always wondered if there is something wrong with the wi-fi on my phone, because I believe it should be much faster.
Wi-fi speed examples anybody?
On 3g in Kansas City I got 1099/730, and on wi-fi I got 3033/559.
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OK, moved out of my basement, and now I got 2002/667 on 3g, 2951/551 on wi-fi. My broadband is capped at 512 up.
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wifi/3g speeds after 2.3 update

My 3G is a good bit faster now. On 2.2 the fastest speednet test I completed was around 12-13 mbits/second on 4G LTE. With the 2.3 update, I was able to get a 18 mbits recording, no problem.
I also have much faster wifi speeds now. On 2.2 my wifi was actually slower than 4G. It pulled around 10 mbits/second. After the 2.3 update, it downloads at 24 mbits/second over wifi.
Has anyone else experienced similar changes in networking performance?
Same here, 4g used to be 8-11 down now its consistently over 20. Upload used to be about 4 now its between 8-10!
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[MOD][AT&T/GSM/HSPA+] Editing Build.prop for better network speeds

ok so I know there are some threads out there for editing the build.prop to gain faster speeds. after messing around for a long time and doing a lot of research i believe I have found some suitable numbers and i have noticed a significant increase in my speeds. Some as high as 14 mbps down and 1.05 mbps up. I am on AT&T so i have no idea what effect this will have on other networks. I was pretty much feeling like i was on edge so i did a lot searching to figure this out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-S...cess#HSDPA_User_Equipment_.28UE.29_categories i looked through this to see if i could decipher these categories.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982082 this is the original thread that got me started on this and i just went through and tested numbers until i got steady results and nothing blew up. a lot of people tried a lot of different values but these are the ones that worked for me.
So finally i came to the following edits for the vivid on AT&T
first if you dont know how to edit the build.prop do some searching then come back. its fairly easy but you can royally screw up so be careful and i take no responsibility for whatever you change. this is what worked for me.
once you are able to edit the build.prop
you are going to change the values at the very top to the values in the first screenshot that are marked
after you change those scroll down until you see the section that matches the second screenshot and change them. they are exactly the same as the above
finally reboot your device a couple times to make sure they stick and make sure you do a speed test before so you can compare the after. if things dont work out your old build.prop should be saved as a .bak . I have attached a screenshot of my new data speeds. i dont use my wifi anymore.
Again these worked for me and i cannot say that they will work for you. i am not responsible for what may happen if you edit the wrong properties as i clearly marked the ones you need to change. be warned but if you are feeling brave give it a shot.
I also have fairly good coverage in my area so this is not going to miraculously make your signal better but my speeds doubled. as you can see in the final screenshot.
Re: Editing Build.prop for better speeds (AT&T)
OK so I've played around more and made a few more changes one is the default mode. I switched it to gsm/cdma and throttling is the other. The default value is 1 and I changed it to 0 and have yet to see what it does exactly as there is very little on it. But my speeds have stayed fast and my reception seems strong. I am still researching the throttling value . I have attached a screenshot with the new values to change.
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Re: Editing Build.prop for better speeds (AT&T)
So I've been messing around and changed my APN settings for att my speeds are stupid fast now i use this setup I use on aosp ROMs
APN name: AT&T LTE
APN: pta
MCC:310
MNC:410
APN type: default,agps,supl,hipri,internet
Make sure there are no spaces
You also need to set up one for MMS
APN name: AT&T LTE MMS
APN: pta
Mmsc: http://mmsc.mobile.att.net
MMS proxy: proxy.mobile.att.net
MMS port:80
Mcc:310
MNC:410
APN type hipri.mms
This has all the speeds up to lte as long as you are in an area
My speeds I just checked on lte were 28 down and 8 up that's faster than most WiFi.
I've never gotten those before with the stock vivid settings. Again this is only for att but the build.prop mod should work for any carrier
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I just did this, it helped tremendously.
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Jared152 said:
I just did this, it helped tremendously.
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Glad to hear that! Its such an eye opener lol
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I can confirm a significant speed boost:
5 tests performed beforehand showed speeds generally at or less than 1000 kB/s, dipping down to as low as 688 kB/s
5 tests performed afterwards showed speeds consistently at or higher than 1100 kB/s, reaching 1500 kB/s
Upload speeds are, on average, more than doubled.
Latency (ping) is consistently low. This is all on a relatively weak connection, too (one bar).
Thanks, zippox.
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I can confirm a significant speed boost:
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Good to know. Im constantly looking and researching to see if make a few more tweaks and let me know what you get on a better signal my lte speeds are nuts when I have good coverage
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Re: Editing Build.prop for better speeds (AT&T)
Would this work on another phone
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Would this work on another phone
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I don't see why not it seems to work for any phone that's GSM
Just save your old build prop
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Has anybody tried this on other carriers or other phones?
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zippox180 said:
Has anybody tried this on other carriers or other phones?
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im trying this edit on my one x with viper rom. i'll report back with the results.
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im trying this edit on my one x with viper rom. i'll report back with the results.
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ok so I tried the tweaks in the build.prop and I switched my one x out of LTE mode to HSPA and set the speed test app to better performance.
I tested this at 4:45PM and got these results:
1st test: 5 Bars with -67dbm, 6.65mbps down-0.99 mbps up
2nd test: 5 Bars with -67dbm, 9.03mbps down-1.05 mbps up
3rd test: 5 bars with -69dbm, 8.75mbps down-1.01 mbps up
Test's show 9.03mbps as my peak but that's probably due to a fair amount of network traffic around the 4PM hour. I will test again at 12 AM and 1 AM to see if there is a difference and will report back tomorrow.
Vicpdx18 said:
ok so I tried the tweaks in the build.prop and I switched my one x out of LTE mode to HSPA and set the speed test app to better performance.
I tested this at 4:45PM and got these results:
1st test: 5 Bars with -67dbm, 6.65mbps down-0.99 mbps up
2nd test: 5 Bars with -67dbm, 9.03mbps down-1.05 mbps up
3rd test: 5 bars with -69dbm, 8.75mbps down-1.01 mbps up
Test's show 9.03mbps as my peak but that's probably due to a fair amount of network traffic around the 4PM hour. I will test again at 12 AM and 1 AM to see if there is a difference and will report back tomorrow.
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Sorry for my late reply my last test shows that my one x's highest 4g HSPA speed is 11.55 Mbps.
Vicpdx18 said:
Sorry for my late reply my last test shows that my one x's highest 4g HSPA speed is 11.55 Mbps.
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So before making the edits is that a noticable increase from what you were getting before. 11mbps is pretty solid thats what i get here.
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zippox180 said:
So before making the edits is that a noticable increase from what you were getting before. 11mbps is pretty solid thats what i get here.
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Actually no it did increase to 11mbps after I changed the build.prop and since you said 11 is solid what you get I guess it may have worked.
Problem I have is that running 4.4.4 AOSP on galaxy s4 my build.prop has none of these settings in it. Any ideas
Blazing fast
Ping= 139ms
DL = 17.26 mbps
UL = 7.12 mbps
Thanks to the O.P.

How to force 5GHz when enable Hotspot

On my OnePlus 7 I can force creating a 5GHz Hotspot (internet share). How can I force my Pixel 4 XL to do the same?
rasmusj said:
On my OnePlus 7 I can force creating a 5GHz Hotspot (internet share). How can I force my Pixel 4 XL to do the same?
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When you're in your hotspot settings, press advanced and set the AP band to 5GHz preferred.
scandalousk said:
When you're in your hotspot settings, press advanced and set the AP band to 5GHz preferred.
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Yes it's preferred, but it never works :'(
All 5Ghz devices can support 2.4Ghz networks and 2.4Ghz can reach speeds of 450 Mbps or 600 Mbps. On 4G data connection, you cannot even reach those speeds so 5Ghz seems pointless for a hotspot. Is there a specific reason it has to be 5Ghz?
lywyn said:
All 5Ghz devices can support 2.4Ghz networks and 2.4Ghz can reach speeds of 450 Mbps or 600 Mbps. On 4G data connection, you cannot even reach those speeds so 5Ghz seems pointless for a hotspot. Is there a specific reason it has to be 5Ghz?
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I will do gaming over hotspot 5ghz
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I will do gaming over hotspot 5ghz
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But you don't need 5Ghz to game? As I mentioned " 2.4Ghz can reach speeds of 450 Mbps or 600 Mbps", so unless you have a mobile data connection faster than that there is not need for 5Ghz. A 2.4Ghz could easily serve the fastest speed 4G can reach.
But 5 is a higher number than 2.4, so it must be better......
Well, Geforce Now runs better on 5ghz, maybe it's just placebo ?* ? but it actually does ?
If you were super serious about gaming you wouldn't use wifi .
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But you don't need 5Ghz to game? As I mentioned " 2.4Ghz can reach speeds of 450 Mbps or 600 Mbps", so unless you have a mobile data connection faster than that there is not need for 5Ghz. A 2.4Ghz could easily serve the fastest speed 4G can reach.
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You know bandwidth isn't the only parameter that comes into play (especially when talking about gaming) right?
sic0048 said:
But 5 is a higher number than 2.4, so it must be better......
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Yeah, latency and packet loss are a hoax, screw these new useless technologies /s
zetsumeikuro said:
If you were super serious about gaming you wouldn't use wifi .
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If we all had latest gen fiber at our homes the world would be a better place, sadly it isn't possible, no matter how serious you are.
hi i have the same problem with my pixel 3a!
My solution is a mini router for 20€, connect the mobile internet via USB to the router and then connect your devices via 5ghz WLAN.
There is a big difference between 2,4 and 5ghz !!
In practice 2,4GHz does not reach more than 30mbits and the more interferences come the worse it gets.
Over the direct Hotspot of the pixel only 25mbits are usable, with the extra 5GHz router this goes up to 70mbits, so there is a clear difference!
I play over Lte and it works absolutely perfect, I sold my gaming PC last month for 2400€, so I am very happy with cloud gaming.
Here are some advantages of cloud gaming, low power consumption, no unnecessary heat development, no fan noise, mobile use, no annoying installation or updates.
To use it properly you need about 50 mbits, nowadays you can get that almost everywhere, soon also in Africa thanks to Starlink.
I also noticed that cloud gaming, whether stadia (which usually doesn't work anyway) or GeForce Now works particularly smooth on my Chrombook. In fact, even my friends discovered this!
kylothow said:
You know bandwidth isn't the only parameter that comes into play (especially when talking about gaming) right?
Yeah, latency and packet loss are a hoax, screw these new useless technologies /s
If we all had latest gen fiber at our homes the world would be a better place, sadly it isn't possible, no matter how serious you are.
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But 5 is a higher number than 2.4, so it must be better......
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this is like saying "5g is higher than 4g then it must be better right?" sarcastically
please google before spamming your keyboard with ****
historys said:
this is like saying "5g is higher than 4g then it must be better right?" sarcastically
please google before spamming your keyboard with ****
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