From the latest review by Androidpolice.com: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/11/07/google-nexus-4-review-the-beautifully-crafted-premium-flagship-phone-that-android-deserves/
"Since this whole smartphone thing started, every phone has had a glass front - a glass front that is easily breakable. So unless you are clamoring for a plastic touchscreen, I don't see how you can say it's ok for the front to be glass, but not the back."
Preach on, brother :highfive:
I don't mind the glass back as long as it's not the cause of the phone overheating. I live in Arizona and hopefully I can use this phone in the summer and not have it melt in my hands.
Ravynmagi said:
I don't mind the glass back as long as it's not the cause of the phone overheating. I live in Arizona and hopefully I can use this phone in the summer and not have it melt in my hands.
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I was wondering why in the small print it said that the N4 wasn't available in Arizona. Now I know it is because of the "Melty Phone" issue
MN_Bug said:
From the latest review by Androidpolice.com: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/11/07/google-nexus-4-review-the-beautifully-crafted-premium-flagship-phone-that-android-deserves/
"Since this whole smartphone thing started, every phone has had a glass front - a glass front that is easily breakable. So unless you are clamoring for a plastic touchscreen, I don't see how you can say it's ok for the front to be glass, but not the back."
Preach on, brother :highfive:
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That doesn't make a lot of sense. Having a glass back and front makes it much more likely for even the front to shatter. The reason being glass has no give. So any shock can only be absorbed by the glass. Don't get me wrong, I'm getting the phone. But a glass back is always a concern.
MN_Bug said:
From the latest review by Androidpolice.com: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...premium-flagship-phone-that-android-deserves/
"Since this whole smartphone thing started, every phone has had a glass front - a glass front that is easily breakable. So unless you are clamoring for a plastic touchscreen, I don't see how you can say it's ok for the front to be glass, but not the back."
Preach on, brother :highfive:
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Well isn't gorilla glass technically plastic?
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@rbiter said:
Well isn't gorilla glass technically plastic?
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No. I believe it is chemically strengthened glass. To be exact, it is: alkali-aluminosilicate sheet glass. But not plastic. If you take a bunch of smart people and add a bunch of money, you get cool stuff like Gorilla Glass.
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That doesn't make a lot of sense. Having a glass back and front makes it much more likely for even the front to shatter. The reason being glass has no give. So any shock can only be absorbed by the glass. Don't get me wrong, I'm getting the phone. But a glass back is always a concern.
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I think I liked what the comment was going for. The front has been glass and has been prone to breakage so adding it to the back shouldn't be that big of a deal. And since I found out the iPhone had it, that makes me less worried. If my wife hasn't broke her iPhone yet, then it must be indestructible.
This is best review I saw. Good job and can't wait to get this phone
bozzykid said:
That doesn't make a lot of sense. Having a glass back and front makes it much more likely for even the front to shatter. The reason being glass has no give. So any shock can only be absorbed by the glass. Don't get me wrong, I'm getting the phone. But a glass back is always a concern.
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Agreed. That's pretty dumb logic. Double the glass sufaces means double the chance of something shattering if dropped.
MN_Bug said:
If my wife hasn't broke her iPhone yet, then it must be indestructible.
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I can't tell if you are trying to be funny but the iPhone 4/4S are well known for the glass shattering real easy. With the metal band connecting the glass, neither side of glass has any give so it takes little to shatter it.
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I can't tell if you are trying to be funny but the iPhone 4/4S are well known for the glass shattering real easy. With the metal band connecting the glass, neither side of glass has any give so it takes little to shatter it.
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I'm going to have to stand by my quote
Wow great review by them. I'd say that theirs is the most in depth review I've read yet. I wasn't considering the phone before (as I am happy with my GNex) but now I am starting to want it.
Really like this review and just confirms my need for this bad boy N4!
i LOVE the patterned back, but i wouldn't have went with a glass back. it's fragile and adding it on the back side makes the phone even more vulnerable to shatter. it's a relieve to know that it's made out of Gorilla Glass 2. i had a phone with Gorilla Glass for 2 years without a scratch.
that said, i will be putting a bumper case onto mine.
Ravynmagi said:
I don't mind the glass back as long as it's not the cause of the phone overheating. I live in Arizona and hopefully I can use this phone in the summer and not have it melt in my hands.
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Considering Glass is a pretty good thermal conductor, and plastic is effectively an insulator, I doubt that would have anything to do with it.
"The screen on time for both battery charts was 2 hours and 40ish minutes."
Ugh...that's horrible...
Gorrila glass is not so power as ads. still be crashed.
I've never had shattering issues on any phone... if any, I'm more concerned about scratches, which I guess makes the glass back good news.
If I happened to break the glass I just get another one from Google
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I get 4 hours of screen time on my Gnex and I think it's awful. He's saying the Nexus 4 doesn't even last 3 hours!!!
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Today Corning updated their site with featured devices - the O2X is there too!
http://mobileboard.blogspot.com/2011/03/lg-optimus-2x-display-is-real-gorilla.html
It's time everybody knows lol
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For those who dont know the strength of Gorilla glass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaNWuGtAaxM&feature=related
I have had a O2X for a month. Actually, O2X's screen looks like a Gorilla Glass but I haven't really believed. Is it true?
And this applies to all O2X phones?
Well I guess I can rip of the "screen protector" that came preinstalled on the phone now!
Actually I would like to have confimed that the P990 has it and not just the Korean version!!! We'll probably never get that though...
for all of you that need proff, head over to this youtube video to see a daring owner put it to the test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt4hi_lIfmI
That was obviously the P990 model in the video.
Now I'm happy, I can let my O2X go totally commando in confidence.
ok that's indeed painfull to watch haha. i personally wouldnt remove the preapplied screenprotector. But it's nice to know the phone can handle some abuse.
screen protector just ripped of and gained a lot of confidence!
You do realise metal cannot scratch minerals(Glass)
Use some minerals and enjoy the scratches
Screen protectors are useless
Gorilla glass is a marketing trick
Using an old N82 now
Impervious to a razorblade
A tiny bit of sand
GG scratches
Always will be the same
Korumera said:
ok that's indeed painfull to watch haha. i personally wouldnt remove the preapplied screenprotector. But it's nice to know the phone can handle some abuse.
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Thats not a screenprotector its just protection for shipment.
Blomkungen said:
You do realise metal cannot scratch minerals(Glass)
Use some minerals and enjoy the scratches
Screen protectors are useless
Gorilla glass is a marketing trick
Using an old N82 now
Impervious to a razorblade
A tiny bit of sand
GG scratches
Always will be the same
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It's mid-day & I am not drunk... I don't mean any insult but your post is very confusing.
http://anythingbutipod.com/2009/04/glass-screen-durability-test-a-lesson-on-the-mohs-hardness-scale/
Harder materials will scratch softer materials.
Basically:
Sand > Gorilla Glass > Metal > 'Standard' Glass
So if you take the 2X with you to a beach it may become scratched.
A cursory Google search brought up this: http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid/45812-has-anyone-scratched-their-gorilla-glass.html
I dont know if this ever got settled but this is what i found.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/featured-products
Is the camera back gorilla glass, glass, or plastic? =) Waiting for my o2x to ship. Not a biggie to me but I was just wondering.
sacredsoul said:
I dont know if this ever got settled but this is what i found.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/featured-products
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i think this site might have got hacked ) lol. no but seriously!!!!! htc desire??? htc wildfire??? with gorilla glass? how did they come up with that?
I loved the fact that the phone has gorilla glass.
But after 1 weekend involving alcohol, it's full of tiny and some deep scratches. No idea how they got there, but it certainly isn't scratch proof
deeren said:
i think this site might have got hacked ) lol. no but seriously!!!!! htc desire??? htc wildfire??? with gorilla glass? how did they come up with that?
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Haha didnt notice that. Oh well. Gotta be careful with mine when it arrives. And sure as hell wont put a key scratch test on it.
And i am pretty sure its glass and not plastic.
sacredsoul said:
Haha didnt notice that. Oh well. Gotta be careful with mine when it arrives. And sure as hell wont put a key scratch test on it.
And i am pretty sure its glass and not plastic.
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Must have been Gorilla Glass Community Technology Preview Edition.
http://bit.ly/TAdai5
Looks like they got the full body one and just the screen protector... been waiting for these!
I've put one of these on my Nexus S, but never on something as big as a tablet... hopefully it's just as easy.
There's so many other screen protectors that are better than zagg. Go with XO skins or BSE.
edgeicator said:
There's so many other screen protectors that are better than zagg. Go with XO skins or BSE.
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Where's the best place to get them and is there a warranty?
Online on their respective websites, bestskinsever.com, xoskins,com, etc. They all have lifetime warranties I believe.
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There's so many other screen protectors that are better than zagg. Go with XO skins or BSE.
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Just curious on how they are better ? Just the pricfe or quality?
I've had a Screen protector from Zagg on my SGS2 since day 1 and seems perfect . Is the touch feeling different on those ?
why in the world would you want to put a screen protector on one of these? you can never get them on perfect and even when placed really good they still ruin the look and feel of the screen in my opinion. also dont worry about the screen anyway- they are practically indestructible/unscratchable with the new glass they use. search youtube for gorilla glass 2 and see for yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT8xI4PEU8c
NLPUNITED said:
Just curious on how they are better ? Just the pricfe or quality?
I've had a Screen protector from Zagg on my SGS2 since day 1 and seems perfect . Is the touch feeling different on those ?
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A lot less orange peel, don't feel as rubbery, cheaper.
DaveWW00 said:
why in the world would you want to put a screen protector on one of these? you can never get them on perfect and even when placed really good they still ruin the look and feel of the screen in my opinion. also dont worry about the screen anyway- they are practically indestructible/unscratchable with the new glass they use. search youtube for gorilla glass 2 and see for yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT8xI4PEU8c
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Because sand will scratch the glass regardless. It's like you don't understand how minerals work. silica has a hardness of 7. gorilla glass is ~6.4. Also, gorilla Glass 2 is thinner than gorilla glass 1, so it will shatter easier when dropped.
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A lot less orange peel, don't feel as rubbery, cheaper.
Because sand will scratch the glass regardless. It's like you don't understand how minerals work. silica has a hardness of 7. gorilla glass is ~6.4. Also, gorilla Glass 2 is thinner than gorilla glass 1, so it will shatter easier when dropped.
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First: Not sure where your ~6.4 number is coming from. Everything i have seen reports it between 7 and 9. Corning uses a different type of test for abrasion so there is no official mohs hardness number.
Second: What the heck are you doing with your tablet that you are that worried about getting sand on it? I have had my phone(s) on construction sites and in our laboratory full of soil, sand, rock, concrete, etc every day and havent scratched one of them once since i got one that has this glass. If it can not scratch under the abuse i give it at work it can survive anything most other people can throw at it. If you get some sand or something on the screen, gently wipe it off and it will be fine. Big thing you need to worry about scratching it is diamonds and other gems from jewelry or maybe the corundrum off of sandpaper or emery boards.
Third: Gorilla glass 2 is thinner but "Corning announced Gorilla Glass 2, a glass 20 percent thinner than the original material offering the same scratch resistance, the same strength and enhanced touch-sensitivity." Either way, a plastic film on the screen isnt going to help protect the screen from breaking in a drop- at best it will hold all the broken pieces together. Its adding no impact resistance to the glass.
My point was only this- why ruin the look at feel of the beautiful screen on this thing when corning and others have spent enormous amounts of money developing glass for these so you don't have to bother with a screen protector. Save your money and buy a nice case to carry it in when you aren't using it and you'll be fine.
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First: Not sure where your ~6.4 number is coming from. Everything i have seen reports it between 7 and 9. Corning uses a different type of test for abrasion so there is no official mohs hardness number.
Second: What the heck are you doing with your tablet that you are that worried about getting sand on it? I have had my phone(s) on construction sites and in our laboratory full of soil, sand, rock, concrete, etc every day and havent scratched one of them once since i got one that has this glass. If it can not scratch under the abuse i give it at work it can survive anything most other people can throw at it. If you get some sand or something on the screen, gently wipe it off and it will be fine. Big thing you need to worry about scratching it is diamonds and other gems from jewelry or maybe the corundrum off of sandpaper or emery boards.
Third: Gorilla glass 2 is thinner but "Corning announced Gorilla Glass 2, a glass 20 percent thinner than the original material offering the same scratch resistance, the same strength and enhanced touch-sensitivity." Either way, a plastic film on the screen isnt going to help protect the screen from breaking in a drop- at best it will hold all the broken pieces together. Its adding no impact resistance to the glass.
My point was only this- why ruin the look at feel of the beautiful screen on this thing when corning and others have spent enormous amounts of money developing glass for these so you don't have to bother with a screen protector. Save your money and buy a nice case to carry it in when you aren't using it and you'll be fine.
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You do realise that sand is literally everywhere right? It's in your pockets, on your table, etc. http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/wa1g0/gorilla_glass_2_is_overhyped_there_are_a_ton_of/
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/579703-so-much-scratch-resistant-gorilla-glass-2-a.html
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...ss-2-already-scratched-very-disappointed.html
Oh look, people managed to scratch their gorilla glass 2 phone in their pocket. It's merely scratch resistant and not scratch proof.
edgeicator said:
Oh look, people managed to scratch their gorilla glass 2 phone in their pocket. It's merely scratch resistant and not scratch proof.
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Yeah, so put it in a case before putting it in your pocket, like the guy was saying.
You do that, you don't really need a screen protector.
edgeicator said:
You do realise that sand is literally everywhere right? It's in your pockets, on your table, etc. http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/wa1g0/gorilla_glass_2_is_overhyped_there_are_a_ton_of/
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/579703-so-much-scratch-resistant-gorilla-glass-2-a.html
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...ss-2-already-scratched-very-disappointed.html
Oh look, people managed to scratch their gorilla glass 2 phone in their pocket. It's merely scratch resistant and not scratch proof.
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how big are your sand-filled pockets if you can fit a 10 inch tablet in them?
and you need to clean your table if its got sand all over it.
DaveWW00 said:
how big are your sand-filled pockets if you can fit a 10 inch tablet in them?
and you need to clean your table if its got sand all over it.
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I've helped friends install InvisibleShield on various phones, and despite a pristine install, I really never could stand the feel of one of these instead of the bare glass. When I got my Galaxy Nexus a year ago, I checked the reviews again, looked at friends' phones with screen protectors (including Zagg) and came away with the same impression -- makes sense, since they're probably using the same 3M protective film (used on leading edge of helicopter rotors, car bras, etc.)
Despite the horror stories and photos of screens destroyed with "invisible sand", I decided to chance it with the GNex so I could really enjoy the screen as it was intended to be used. The only protection the phone has ever had on it is the 2-piece (silicone inner with plastic shell) Incipio case that Verizon was selling. The screen has been bare for a year.
The phone is generally with me from 6am till bedtime. I travel frequently for work -- the phone gets jammed in a pants pocket, jacket pocket, placed in a cup holder in my car, I've dropped it 3 times (happily the Incipio was sufficient protection). I've had it on camping trips, and on our last two vacations at the beach the phone came along with me every day.
Point is: the Galaxy Nexus screen is not even true Gorilla Glass, but an unspecified "fortified glass" that Samsung used instead back then. Assumptions are that real Gorilla Glass is more scratch resistant, and Gorilla Glass 2 is an even better product. With all considered, my Galaxy Nexus has no visible scratches -- and I DO check it carefully, as flaws like that tend to bug me. I've taken a chance with the phone, but in the end I'm SO happy that I have been able to fully enjoy the phone as it was intended, rather than have to drag my finger across a slightly rubbery, slightly orange-peely, surface any time I want to use it.
In my own use, a tablet would subject to less potential scratching and wear than my phone. I'm careful with my tech equipment -- but I use it heavily, and I want to enjoy it to the fullest. So far, protectors like Zagg's product do more to compromise my experience than the protection is worth to me. Everyone uses their devices in their own fashion, some are rougher on them than others or more accident prone, and some live in sandier climates... Obviously each has to decide what makes sense for his/her self. For me, considering my usage patterns -- the state of the art of screens and screen protectors is such that I generally won't use one, and I haven't regretted it yet.
This is my second Nexus 4 RMA ,. because the first one got troublesome issues. I'm really getting frustrated about the Nexus 4 screen ,. it scratches pretty easily .
I accidentally put it in my pocket with the camera lens cover and guess what it got scratched! WTF! I thought they're made of gorilla glass?
I had an HTC Incredible 2 before...but the screen never get scratched even with key's on it. Maybe Google or LG needs under investigated for product quality and standard. gawd.
Or may be you need to buy a case or screen protectors.
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Define scratch like youre super ocd and put the phone up against light to see the mini scratches? All phone scratch you cant see the scratch marks until you put it against a light. If you cant see the scratch without putting it next to a light then its fine chill..
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hatyrei said:
This is my second Nexus 4 RMA ,. because the first one got troublesome issues. I'm really getting frustrated about the Nexus 4 screen ,. it scratches pretty easily .
I accidentally put it in my pocket with the camera lens cover and guess what it got scratched! WTF! I thought they're made of gorilla glass?
I had an HTC Incredible 2 before...but the screen never get scratched even with key's on it. Maybe Google or LG needs under investigated for product quality and standard. gawd.
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Its all your fault for being careless, accident is being careless. I've owned several smartphones and none gotten a scratch because first thing you do is have screen protector installed by professional or you. Second, have a dedicated pocket for your phone and nothing else go to that pocket except your phone. Third, body armor like a tpu gel case or hybrid case, I prefer hybrid for max protection. Fourth and last, be responsible and never blame a product because of your stupidity.
By the way, Gorilla Glass will get scratched. It is not 100% scratch proof.
hatyrei said:
I accidentally put it in my pocket with the camera lens cover and guess what it got scratched! WTF! I thought they're made of gorilla glass?
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Hold on there a second. Are we talking about the same camera lens covers? Like DSLR lens covers? You know, plastic round thingies? Those can never scratch a glass, never mind the Gorilla Glass. I mean "technically" if you find a spot of the lens cover that is sharp (I have Nikons and they don't have sharp edges for instance, cause that'd be stupid, you cover the lens of a 1000$ barrel. No sane person would made them SHARP) and push it really hard towards normal glass, I guess you can make micro scratches. But you do that to Gorilla Glass, no way. Plastic is way softer than Gorilla. What you are saying doesn't make sense. Either you had the scratches prior to the instance or you had other stuff in your pocket, like sand.
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Hold on there a second. Are we talking about the same camera lens covers? Like DSLR lens covers? You know, plastic round thingies? Those can never scratch a glass, never mind the Gorilla Glass. I mean "technically" if you find a spot of the lens cover that is sharp (I have Nikons and they don't have sharp edges for instance, cause that'd be stupid, you cover the lens of a 1000$ barrel. No sane person would made them SHARP) and push it really hard towards normal glass, I guess you can make micro scratches. But you do that to Gorilla Glass, no way. Plastic is way softer than Gorilla. What you are saying doesn't make sense. Either you had the scratches prior to the instance or you had other stuff in your pocket, like sand.
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+1, Sand is the most likely cause
The phone's not invincible now is it? Don't expect it to be and it will scratch/break if you let it.
Removed my screen protector two weeks ago, no scratches yet. Just be careful for any sand and dust.
Why?
FatalityBoyZahy said:
Removed my screen protector two weeks ago, no scratches yet. Just be careful for any sand and dust.
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Why did you remove the screen protector?
Former Marine here and I may say that it was the best experience of my life and gave me better discipline. What will me your MOS after boot camp? And a tip for you, its all mind games and hope you can handle the mental stress they will give you. I went in a scrawny teen but made it because my dad was tougher compared to the drill instructors, this helped me a lot. Physical part is do you best and always give more than what you think you can. And listen and understand the commands, this will help you not to be singled out, Drill instructors tend to look for **** birds.
Good luck, have fun, and be prepared to an adventure of a lifetime.
I know you were asking him, but I removed the one off my phone because a grain of sand somehow got underneath the film and continuously slid around in a little circle. Miraculously didn't scratch.
Also, as a military child that has suffered through 3 deployments, thank you for your service on this fine Memorial Day!
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Hold on there a second. Are we talking about the same camera lens covers? Like DSLR lens covers? You know, plastic round thingies? Those can never scratch a glass, never mind the Gorilla Glass. I mean "technically" if you find a spot of the lens cover that is sharp (I have Nikons and they don't have sharp edges for instance, cause that'd be stupid, you cover the lens of a 1000$ barrel. No sane person would made them SHARP) and push it really hard towards normal glass, I guess you can make micro scratches. But you do that to Gorilla Glass, no way. Plastic is way softer than Gorilla. What you are saying doesn't make sense. Either you had the scratches prior to the instance or you had other stuff in your pocket, like sand.
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Duh ,... obviously ! ,. lol. Those can never scratch a glass? Think again. I have the Nikon camera lens cover,.. I put in my pocket together with my phone and it did leave a scratch! I thought Gorrila glass are tough...or Maybe LG or Google is using other glass just to make this phone more affordable.! I don't make sense? It's either you'RE close minded or just full of your self! LOL,...What are you a fortune teller? telling me i have scratches prior to the situation? lol.
The screen got scratch pretty easily by the camera lens cover and btw it's not sharp. End of story. I hope they will investigate Google and LG about this. Awful build quality experience.
Underground_XI said:
Or may be you need to buy a case or screen protectors.
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I thought Gorilla glass are though as they advertised! How come a simple round edge camera lens cover scratched my N4 screen pretty easily. I bet they're using other glass just to make this phone at low price range. I feel awful. :/
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Define scratch like youre super ocd and put the phone up against light to see the mini scratches? All phone scratch you cant see the scratch marks until you put it against a light. If you cant see the scratch without putting it next to a light then its fine chill..
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I have a good eye sight! And the thin hairline scratch irritates me. I just feel awful,.. I was really careful cuz I used to love this phone,..but accidents happen ,...cuz i used to believed that the screen is though. So withouth second thought i put the camera lens cover. And then ... :{ . Does FCC reviews for quality control too?Cuz LG should be questioned. I mean the maker of this glass.
SevenZero said:
Its all your fault for being careless, accident is being careless. I've owned several smartphones and none gotten a scratch because first thing you do is have screen protector installed by professional or you. Second, have a dedicated pocket for your phone and nothing else go to that pocket except your phone. Third, body armor like a tpu gel case or hybrid case, I prefer hybrid for max protection. Fourth and last, be responsible and never blame a product because of your stupidity.
By the way, Gorilla Glass will get scratched. It is not 100% scratch proof.
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Then Why are they advertising it's scratch resistant? So does it mean ...all of their claims are false? They should be investigated. Yah it's my fault for trusting that N4 screen is tough.,.gawd,!
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The phone's not invincible now is it? Don't expect it to be and it will scratch/break if you let it.
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I've learned it in the hard way. lol :/ I still feel awful thou.. I'm just gonna give it to my sis. I'm getting another phone hopefully this week.
hatyrei said:
Then Why are they advertising it's scratch resistant? So does it mean ...all of their claims are false? They should be investigated. Yah it's my fault for trusting that N4 screen is tough.,.gawd,!
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Scratch resistant not scratch immune.
Happens to all Gorilla Glasses.
But there are always careless users that manage to scratch it.
Gorilla Glass 3 is said to be more resistant.
The Glass is by Corning, not LG.
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I've been using this phone for 4 months now naked; without screen protectors or case and not a single scratch here. Front or back. Just avoid dust or sand. Putting it on a very dirty pocket may cause the scratch so better wash those before using it.
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I've learned it in the hard way. lol :/ I still feel awful thou.. I'm just gonna give it to my sis. I'm getting another phone hopefully this week.
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Boehoe i scratched my phone and i demand a new one :crying:
Too ridicilous for words and no valid reason for a RMA imo, i hope they charge you for it.
SevenZero said:
Why did you remove the screen protector?
Former Marine here and I may say that it was the best experience of my life and gave me better discipline. What will me your MOS after boot camp? And a tip for you, its all mind games and hope you can handle the mental stress they will give you. I went in a scrawny teen but made it because my dad was tougher compared to the drill instructors, this helped me a lot. Physical part is do you best and always give more than what you think you can. And listen and understand the commands, this will help you not to be singled out, Drill instructors tend to look for **** birds.
Good luck, have fun, and be prepared to an adventure of a lifetime.
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I was gonna change it because mine was getting scratched up but I fell in love with the bare glass.
I signed a 13xx contract so I am hoping I get 1371 Combat Engineer. The physical part won't be a problem for me, I'm in pretty good shape for the most part. 18 pullups, 105 crunches, and I can probably do the 3 miles in 21min if I really push myself. I'm in my last year of JROTC and it has helped me out, even got me contract PFC. Drill shouldn't be a problem but no matter what, bootcamp is gonna suck. Haha. Thanky you and thank you for your service.
If you'revtalking about the front you obviously are insane and the back isn't gorilla so no surprise if that scratches
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Can someone please help confirm/deny something? I’ve just read a troubling review which suggests that the screen and the camera glass are very easily scratched.
http://www.gsmarena.com/six_weeks_with_the_huawei_p9-blog-18453.php
Can anyone back this up? I am not worried about his other negatives, as I think this can be fixed with customising & tweaking (who would need XDA if all phones were perfect?!) but this issue might be a deal breaker. The curved edges of this screen usually mean screen protectors can’t go right up to the edge, making them very visible and unsightly on a screen like this.
How are people finding it?
Update 01.06.2016: I asked Corning if they have their Gorilla Glass on the P9, and they have just responded stating that due to NDA with various contracts, they are not allowed to identify all the devices that have this glass. Interesting. This is neither a yes or a no. They advised that I ask Huawei, so I have just e-mailed them the query. Will update with the response.
I have a P9 from eight days, not a single scratch on the display or the camera glass cover.
PS: This so called review is not even close to review. This is just gibberish. The guy is in love with his iphone.
Definite iphone fanboy
Funny how all other reviews say the P9 does have Gorilla glass!
dedovec said:
I have a P9 from eight days, not a single scratch on the display or the camera glass cover.
PS: This so called review is not even close to review. This is just gibberish. The guy is in love with his iphone.
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colthekid said:
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Funny how all other reviews say the P9 does have Gorilla glass!
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I think you are both being a little unfair to him. A fanboy wouldn't even try another Android phone. Did you even read his main review? He lists all the flaws of the iPhone fairly. But we are getting off-topic.
This phone is NOT on the list of devices fitted with Gorilla Glass, and I have read many reviews on this device with factual errors cropping up in several of them.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/en/products-with-gorilla/huawei
But again, this is not what I am asking. I have managed to scratch Gorilla glass before, as have many other people.
I am asking have people had this phone naked for a few weeks and managed to scratch it even when being careful?
You may ask Corning to update thier webpage.
I've had mine for three weeks. No case or protector (haven't found one that fits because of the curved screen). The screen and the metal back look fine, but I have one scratch near one of the lenses. The black part that covers the camera does not look like Gorilla Glass to me.
I watched or read a review which stated that it does get some hairline scratches quite easily, just with every day use. I cannot link you so I am sorry. I have had mine for about a week and it seems okay at the moment, but due to the review I have been a little more mindful than I usually am. I don't like cases so I have ordered a dbrand skin, and a slim hard rubber feel case. Shame as the phone feels amazing naked - same as me.
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You may ask Corning to update thier webpage.
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Yes, thanks I have already done it. I'll update when I hear back from them.
tnhh said:
I've had mine for three weeks. No case or protector (haven't found one that fits because of the curved screen). The screen and the metal back look fine, but I have one scratch near one of the lenses. The black part that covers the camera does not look like Gorilla Glass to me.
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OK thank you for the feedback. Guess I'll have to entertain the idea of a case/skin too.
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I watched or read a review which stated that it does get some hairline scratches quite easily, just with every day use. I cannot link you so I am sorry. I have had mine for about a week and it seems okay at the moment, but due to the review I have been a little more mindful than I usually am. I don't like cases so I have ordered a dbrand skin, and a slim hard rubber feel case. Shame as the phone feels amazing naked - same as me.
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I'll....I'll have to take your word on that! Thanks!
I've had the phone for 2-3 weeks and I do have a small, hairline scratch on the screen. It's not very deep, and only visible under certain light, but it is there. I was very surprised to find it since I never put my phone in my pocket with keys, coins or anything like that.
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I've had the phone for 2-3 weeks and I do have a small, hairline scratch on the screen. It's not very deep, and only visible under certain light, but it is there. I was very surprised to find it since I never put my phone in my pocket with keys, coins or anything like that.
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OK thank you for the feedback. You'd be amazed how easily a little bit of grit can get in your pocket and cause havoc. It is looking like this may need some sort of skin & screen protector combo.
Its not putting me off! I'm still getting this phone in a month when my contract runs out.
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I've had the phone for 2-3 weeks and I do have a small, hairline scratch on the screen. It's not very deep, and only visible under certain light, but it is there. I was very surprised to find it since I never put my phone in my pocket with keys, coins or anything like that.
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I also have the same hairline scratch that I notice on my first week of using the phone. I have had nothing since, however it's a little disconcerting as I even bought the Huawei Watch and I await for those to start showing on that.
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This phone is NOT on the list of devices fitted with Gorilla Glass
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LG G4 and LG G5 also are not in the Corning's list for devices, covered with Gorilla glass, but they have it.
As regards the reviews... My experience is the only thing that matters for me.
This kind of thread exists for every new smartphone it's glass. Glass gets scratched and or shattered pretty easily no matter if it's gorilla or some other brand. To be on the safe side just use a case or something.
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I am sick of using a screen protector, is the screen realy scrach resistant.what you guys experienced?
You should watch JerryRigEverythings review of the Oneplus 3/3t here, as he says in the clip, our phone has gorilla glas 4 and scratches at level 6 and deeper scratches at level 7.
https://youtu.be/8PZ8W_g6Vvk
I've never used screen protector on mine. Only irritating thing is that it's quite prone to getting smudged by skin fat, that means the oleophobic coating of the screen surface could be better, maybe the only reason that I would put a screen protector on my 3t.
The screen protector definitely makes a big difference in durability and scratch-resistance, but after time with a case it kinda messes up the protector. I like using my phone without one.
The screen can get scratched.
ive got a few hair thin scratches on my screen so i wouldnt say that the glass is superb but it holds up against some abrasion. I just wouldnt put your keys in the same pocket as your phone.
This screen is definitely not scratch resistant. 4 months of usage and I've got one nice scratch down the middle and some superficial scratches towards the top corners. Phone has never been in a case, just keep it in a leather holster
Whether the glass is classified as "scratch resistant" is a semantic and marketing distinction. To answer "yes" or "no" to this (whether it is "really" scratch resistant) doesn't mean much of anything. Gorilla Glass is meant to resist some scratches. But that doesn't mean it can't be scratched (and far from it). And that doesn't account for oleophobic coating applied to it, which can also scratch.
For every person who says they never have gotten a scratch, you will find another person that scratched theirs in days/weeks. My other (work) phone is an iPhone (also Gorilla Glass). I'm admittedly not too gentle with it, and it got a big gouge on the screen the first week or so after I received it.
Whether to use a screen protector or not, comes down to a personal choice. Many folks don't like the feel or hassle of a protector. But if you don't use one, you will have to live with the potential of at least superficial scuffs, or even deeper scratches.
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ive got a few hair thin scratches on my screen so i wouldnt say that the glass is superb but it holds up against some abrasion. I just wouldnt put your keys in the same pocket as your phone.
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Keys cant damage gorilla glass unless they are made of diamond or any material which is harder or equally hard as gorilla glass, sand, concrete, diamond can scratch screen easily.. it doesnt matter how sharp the object is but how hard it is
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Keys cant damage gorilla glass unless they are made of diamond or any material which is harder or equally hard as gorilla glass, sand, concrete, diamond can scratch screen easily.. it doesnt matter how sharp the object is but how hard it is
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Walmart makes some strong keys then.
OcazPrime said:
Walmart makes some strong keys then.
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Its not keys.. your pocket probably has dust inside with particles of material which is harder than ur screen
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Its not keys.. your pocket probably has dust inside with particles of material which is harder than ur screen
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It's not a big deal really. Theyre so unnoticeable i have to actually seek them out to see them.
protocol717 said:
I am sick of using a screen protector, is the screen realy scrach resistant.what you guys experienced?
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No,i suggest you to use a screen protector.
protocol717 said:
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The Corning Gorilla Glass 4 is indeed 'Scratch-Proof' under normal usage in urban daily life, but still it cannot stand the IMPACT force when it drop to the ground, so get a TEMPERED GLASS Screen protector. If u still feel sick of using it, then spend some bucks to buy RhinoShield CrashGuard along with some DBrand skins ? !
Got to look 'SiCk' after that ?
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Isus <3 said:
Keys cant damage gorilla glass unless they are made of diamond or any material which is harder or equally hard as gorilla glass, sand, concrete, diamond can scratch screen easily.. it doesnt matter how sharp the object is but how hard it is
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While GG may be hard to scratch, it doesn't account for the oleophobic coating, which is much easier to scratch. To the user, it doesn't matter which scratches (the glass or the coating). A scratch is a scratch.
Scientifically you are correct. For that matter, you can't even scratch a regular glass beer bottle with a key (go ahead and try, I have) since the Moh's hardness of glass is 5.5 , and steel is only around 4.
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The Corning Gorilla Glass 4 is indeed 'Scratch-Proof' under normal usage in urban daily life
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Everyone (not just you, but others on the thread, including the original poster) should stop thinking about terms like "scratch resistant" and "scratch proof" as absolute yes/no things, since they aren't. There is no technical or scientific definition for these terms. Nothing is scratch proof, even a diamond can scratch a diamond. And I know you qualified it with "normal usage" but that term itself is completely subjective. Many folks wear diamond rings on their hands on a normal daily basis, after all.
Similar to the term "water proof" which doesn't really mean anything by itself. That is why things like IP ratings (which define specific water depth/pressure and exposure times) have been developed to better define water resistance/water proofness.
And as I already mentioned above, even if the glass was "scratch proof" (if there was such a thing), it would be irrelevant, since they've put a coating on top of the glass, that can be scratched.
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While GG may be hard to scratch, it doesn't account for the oleophobic coating, which is much easier to scratch. To the user, it doesn't matter which scratches (the glass or the coating). A scratch is a scratch.
Scientifically you are correct. For that matter, you can't even scratch a regular glass beer bottle with a key (go ahead and try, I have) since the Moh's hardness of glass is 5.5 , and steel is only around 4.
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Everyone (not just you, but others on the thread, including the original poster) should stop thinking about terms like "scratch resistant" and "scratch proof" as absolute yes/no things, since they aren't. There is no technical or scientific definition for these terms. Nothing is scratch proof, even a diamond can scratch a diamond. And I know you qualified it with "normal usage" but that term itself is completely subjective. Many folks wear diamond rings on their hands on a normal daily basis, after all.
Similar to the term "water proof" which doesn't really mean anything by itself. That is why things like IP ratings (which define specific water depth/pressure and exposure times) have been developed to better define water resistance/water proofness.
And as I already mentioned above, even if the glass was "scratch proof" (if there was such a thing), it would be irrelevant, since they've put a coating on top of the glass, that can be scratched.
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I dont think there would be any visible damage to our eyes if oleophobic coating was scratched.. i'd feel its as easy to scratch as paint from metal or wall or wood so if you would be able to see oleophobic scratches my phone would already look like a scratch hell
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I dont think there would be any visible damage to our eyes if oleophobic coating was scratched.. i'd feel its as easy to scratch as paint from metal or wall or wood so if you would be able to see oleophobic scratches my phone would already look like a scratch hell
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It may be why folks are seeing superficial scuffs on the screen.
I've definitely seen oleophobic (or some other type of coating) get scratched on other devices. On my old HTC M8, it was reported by many users (myself included) that the coating on the back camera was getting scratched and peeling to the point that it clouded the photos. Removing the coating (various methods, most used alcohol, toothpaste, or some other mild solvent or abrasive) and the glass underneath was just fine (no scratches). This is probably a "worst case" example where the coating was particularly low quality. And just the camera glass, not the screen. But an example, nonetheless.
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I took it off from day one, and have regretted it ever since. I haven't dropped the phone nor put it in a pocket with anything else, yet I have two scratches... A light one in the top left corner of the phone and a deeper one I can feel with my nail in the centre. Not sure how but yeah...
So I'd keep it on if I were you.
OmJo93 said:
I took it off from day one, and have regretted it ever since. I haven't dropped the phone nor put it in a pocket with anything else, yet I have two scratches... A light one in the top left corner of the phone and a deeper one I can feel with my nail in the centre. Not sure how but yeah...
So I'd keep it on if I were you.
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There is no anti-scratch phone, If you care for your phone you'll need a screen protector,PERIOD.
Midomad said:
There is no scratch proof phone, If you care for your phone you'll need a screen protector,PERIOD.
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Yeah, I got a bit overconfident after watching JerryRigEverythings videos and took it off. A few months later I'm ordering a pack of screen protectors off Amazon and looking at maybe replacing the screen.
I still hope they are just in the oleophobic coating but doesn't seem likely. At least for the second one. And it's not really worth the risk of removing the coating to find out.
The 3T screen is pretty soft. I've owned this phone twice ([emoji38]), and both times just sliding in my pocket has created small scratches. The small scratches that you can only see, if you angle the phone in light, not a biggie, but if you have OCD..it will bug the heck out of you. Also if you ever sell, just know most OnePlus 3T screens will trend towards "good" vs mint.
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I dont think there would be any visible damage to our eyes if oleophobic coating was scratched.. i'd feel its as easy to scratch as paint from metal or wall or wood so if you would be able to see oleophobic scratches my phone would already look like a scratch hell
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The hair thin scratches are usually in oleophobic coating and not in glass, so yeah it's definitely visible.