This is my second Nexus 4 RMA ,. because the first one got troublesome issues. I'm really getting frustrated about the Nexus 4 screen ,. it scratches pretty easily .
I accidentally put it in my pocket with the camera lens cover and guess what it got scratched! WTF! I thought they're made of gorilla glass?
I had an HTC Incredible 2 before...but the screen never get scratched even with key's on it. Maybe Google or LG needs under investigated for product quality and standard. gawd.
Or may be you need to buy a case or screen protectors.
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Define scratch like youre super ocd and put the phone up against light to see the mini scratches? All phone scratch you cant see the scratch marks until you put it against a light. If you cant see the scratch without putting it next to a light then its fine chill..
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hatyrei said:
This is my second Nexus 4 RMA ,. because the first one got troublesome issues. I'm really getting frustrated about the Nexus 4 screen ,. it scratches pretty easily .
I accidentally put it in my pocket with the camera lens cover and guess what it got scratched! WTF! I thought they're made of gorilla glass?
I had an HTC Incredible 2 before...but the screen never get scratched even with key's on it. Maybe Google or LG needs under investigated for product quality and standard. gawd.
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Its all your fault for being careless, accident is being careless. I've owned several smartphones and none gotten a scratch because first thing you do is have screen protector installed by professional or you. Second, have a dedicated pocket for your phone and nothing else go to that pocket except your phone. Third, body armor like a tpu gel case or hybrid case, I prefer hybrid for max protection. Fourth and last, be responsible and never blame a product because of your stupidity.
By the way, Gorilla Glass will get scratched. It is not 100% scratch proof.
hatyrei said:
I accidentally put it in my pocket with the camera lens cover and guess what it got scratched! WTF! I thought they're made of gorilla glass?
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Hold on there a second. Are we talking about the same camera lens covers? Like DSLR lens covers? You know, plastic round thingies? Those can never scratch a glass, never mind the Gorilla Glass. I mean "technically" if you find a spot of the lens cover that is sharp (I have Nikons and they don't have sharp edges for instance, cause that'd be stupid, you cover the lens of a 1000$ barrel. No sane person would made them SHARP) and push it really hard towards normal glass, I guess you can make micro scratches. But you do that to Gorilla Glass, no way. Plastic is way softer than Gorilla. What you are saying doesn't make sense. Either you had the scratches prior to the instance or you had other stuff in your pocket, like sand.
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Hold on there a second. Are we talking about the same camera lens covers? Like DSLR lens covers? You know, plastic round thingies? Those can never scratch a glass, never mind the Gorilla Glass. I mean "technically" if you find a spot of the lens cover that is sharp (I have Nikons and they don't have sharp edges for instance, cause that'd be stupid, you cover the lens of a 1000$ barrel. No sane person would made them SHARP) and push it really hard towards normal glass, I guess you can make micro scratches. But you do that to Gorilla Glass, no way. Plastic is way softer than Gorilla. What you are saying doesn't make sense. Either you had the scratches prior to the instance or you had other stuff in your pocket, like sand.
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+1, Sand is the most likely cause
The phone's not invincible now is it? Don't expect it to be and it will scratch/break if you let it.
Removed my screen protector two weeks ago, no scratches yet. Just be careful for any sand and dust.
Why?
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Removed my screen protector two weeks ago, no scratches yet. Just be careful for any sand and dust.
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Why did you remove the screen protector?
Former Marine here and I may say that it was the best experience of my life and gave me better discipline. What will me your MOS after boot camp? And a tip for you, its all mind games and hope you can handle the mental stress they will give you. I went in a scrawny teen but made it because my dad was tougher compared to the drill instructors, this helped me a lot. Physical part is do you best and always give more than what you think you can. And listen and understand the commands, this will help you not to be singled out, Drill instructors tend to look for **** birds.
Good luck, have fun, and be prepared to an adventure of a lifetime.
I know you were asking him, but I removed the one off my phone because a grain of sand somehow got underneath the film and continuously slid around in a little circle. Miraculously didn't scratch.
Also, as a military child that has suffered through 3 deployments, thank you for your service on this fine Memorial Day!
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Hold on there a second. Are we talking about the same camera lens covers? Like DSLR lens covers? You know, plastic round thingies? Those can never scratch a glass, never mind the Gorilla Glass. I mean "technically" if you find a spot of the lens cover that is sharp (I have Nikons and they don't have sharp edges for instance, cause that'd be stupid, you cover the lens of a 1000$ barrel. No sane person would made them SHARP) and push it really hard towards normal glass, I guess you can make micro scratches. But you do that to Gorilla Glass, no way. Plastic is way softer than Gorilla. What you are saying doesn't make sense. Either you had the scratches prior to the instance or you had other stuff in your pocket, like sand.
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Duh ,... obviously ! ,. lol. Those can never scratch a glass? Think again. I have the Nikon camera lens cover,.. I put in my pocket together with my phone and it did leave a scratch! I thought Gorrila glass are tough...or Maybe LG or Google is using other glass just to make this phone more affordable.! I don't make sense? It's either you'RE close minded or just full of your self! LOL,...What are you a fortune teller? telling me i have scratches prior to the situation? lol.
The screen got scratch pretty easily by the camera lens cover and btw it's not sharp. End of story. I hope they will investigate Google and LG about this. Awful build quality experience.
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Or may be you need to buy a case or screen protectors.
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I thought Gorilla glass are though as they advertised! How come a simple round edge camera lens cover scratched my N4 screen pretty easily. I bet they're using other glass just to make this phone at low price range. I feel awful. :/
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Define scratch like youre super ocd and put the phone up against light to see the mini scratches? All phone scratch you cant see the scratch marks until you put it against a light. If you cant see the scratch without putting it next to a light then its fine chill..
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I have a good eye sight! And the thin hairline scratch irritates me. I just feel awful,.. I was really careful cuz I used to love this phone,..but accidents happen ,...cuz i used to believed that the screen is though. So withouth second thought i put the camera lens cover. And then ... :{ . Does FCC reviews for quality control too?Cuz LG should be questioned. I mean the maker of this glass.
SevenZero said:
Its all your fault for being careless, accident is being careless. I've owned several smartphones and none gotten a scratch because first thing you do is have screen protector installed by professional or you. Second, have a dedicated pocket for your phone and nothing else go to that pocket except your phone. Third, body armor like a tpu gel case or hybrid case, I prefer hybrid for max protection. Fourth and last, be responsible and never blame a product because of your stupidity.
By the way, Gorilla Glass will get scratched. It is not 100% scratch proof.
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Then Why are they advertising it's scratch resistant? So does it mean ...all of their claims are false? They should be investigated. Yah it's my fault for trusting that N4 screen is tough.,.gawd,!
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The phone's not invincible now is it? Don't expect it to be and it will scratch/break if you let it.
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I've learned it in the hard way. lol :/ I still feel awful thou.. I'm just gonna give it to my sis. I'm getting another phone hopefully this week.
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Then Why are they advertising it's scratch resistant? So does it mean ...all of their claims are false? They should be investigated. Yah it's my fault for trusting that N4 screen is tough.,.gawd,!
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Scratch resistant not scratch immune.
Happens to all Gorilla Glasses.
But there are always careless users that manage to scratch it.
Gorilla Glass 3 is said to be more resistant.
The Glass is by Corning, not LG.
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I've been using this phone for 4 months now naked; without screen protectors or case and not a single scratch here. Front or back. Just avoid dust or sand. Putting it on a very dirty pocket may cause the scratch so better wash those before using it.
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I've learned it in the hard way. lol :/ I still feel awful thou.. I'm just gonna give it to my sis. I'm getting another phone hopefully this week.
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Boehoe i scratched my phone and i demand a new one :crying:
Too ridicilous for words and no valid reason for a RMA imo, i hope they charge you for it.
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Why did you remove the screen protector?
Former Marine here and I may say that it was the best experience of my life and gave me better discipline. What will me your MOS after boot camp? And a tip for you, its all mind games and hope you can handle the mental stress they will give you. I went in a scrawny teen but made it because my dad was tougher compared to the drill instructors, this helped me a lot. Physical part is do you best and always give more than what you think you can. And listen and understand the commands, this will help you not to be singled out, Drill instructors tend to look for **** birds.
Good luck, have fun, and be prepared to an adventure of a lifetime.
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I was gonna change it because mine was getting scratched up but I fell in love with the bare glass.
I signed a 13xx contract so I am hoping I get 1371 Combat Engineer. The physical part won't be a problem for me, I'm in pretty good shape for the most part. 18 pullups, 105 crunches, and I can probably do the 3 miles in 21min if I really push myself. I'm in my last year of JROTC and it has helped me out, even got me contract PFC. Drill shouldn't be a problem but no matter what, bootcamp is gonna suck. Haha. Thanky you and thank you for your service.
If you'revtalking about the front you obviously are insane and the back isn't gorilla so no surprise if that scratches
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I am looking to get one of these unlocked and use it on At&t, and so far the phone looks great in reviews. But I have one quick question, does it have gorilla glass?
After not having to rock a screen protector on my galaxy s, I love gorilla glass.
Yes it does. But as always, it is only scratch assistance, not scratch proof.
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http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/#featured-products
Yes the O2X has gorilla glass confirmed also by LG
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Yes it does. But as always, it is only scratch assistance, not scratch proof.
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Your meaning scratch resistance? Anyway, i heard some where it can not be scratch by metal but can be scratch by sand due to its cristalite characteristic.
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pretty much, I don't have any scratches so far, except one teeny tiny pick at one of the edges. It is definately not scratch proof (as in, you should use at least a bag for your pockets) but if you give it a minimum amount of thought, you can remain scratch free.
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Your meaning scratch resistance? Anyway, i heard some where it can not be scratch by metal but can be scratch by sand due to its cristalite characteristic.
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In a way yes, but i never seen anyone tried to scratch his/her 2X using stones or rocks.
But it made sense because people commonly kept keys in their pocket, hence scratch assistance to metal.
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The big thing with gorilla glass for me is not so much just the scratch resistance but the shatter resistance of said glass - my Captivate survived many a drop and only recently suffered a scuff on the top right of the glass (it slid across concrete) and I've had it since November and dropped it who knows how many times (its a really light and thin phone though, which this is not, so I should be able to grip it better).
Gorilla Glass is both scratch and shatter-resistant. Example. Bowling ball falls on phone's screen - glass will definitely crack but unless it was a severe drop (I believe they say that 1/4mm thick G.G. will survive a 10 pound pressure drop up to 5 feet or so without shattering), the glass will just splinter across the screen.
Be careful. Gorilla glass was made to resist better to pressure, not scratch in the first place.
There is only ONE physic law interesting here : a harder elemt will scratch another one.
Hardness is usually measured in Vickers. It's easy, as said before, just compare to elements' positions on the Vickers scale. The higher will scratch the lower.
Glass is around 550 VH, Gorilla around 674 and... sand is around 1000 VH.
So yeah, your metal keys won't scratch it (key's metal is around 300 VH) but sand will ! As much as other minerals (quartz...). I took the sand exemple just because it's very common.
Remeber that Gorilla glass is far from being invicible. Sand is hardess, ergo stronger in that case ^^
Agreed. This is why my phone got a nice round scuff on it when it slid across the concrete.
However, had it been an iPhone 2G, it would have shattered on contact. That's one major point that has to be made.
I never used a screen protector on my EVO, my Galaxy S (Captivate), and I am not currently using one on my Inspire or myTouch4G and don't plan to use one on my G2x. In fact, I actually haven't used screen protectors since I got annoyed with the stupid Invisible Shield tackiness making it even more of a pain on my Touch Pro 2 (resistive) when trying to operate it.
Does the gorilla screen protect against fingerprint smudges or anti glare. If not can someone point me in the direction for THE BEST screen protector to accomplish this.
chillwill11 said:
Does the gorilla screen protect against fingerprint smudges or anti glare. If not can someone point me in the direction for THE BEST screen protector to accomplish this.
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It does not do either of those things unless it is given a special coating to prevent them - honestly, no matter what screen protector you use, you're going to lose sensitivity on a capacitive screen which means more taps. Just carry around a microfiber cloth if you're worried about smudges but I've found over time, the oils spread across the phone's screen and you don't even really notice it anymore. This has been the case with my Zune HD (Gorilla), EVO (Gorilla), Inspire (Gorilla), and myTouch4G (Gorilla as well).
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It does not do either of those things unless it is given a special coating to prevent them - honestly, no matter what screen protector you use, you're going to lose sensitivity on a capacitive screen which means more taps. Just carry around a microfiber cloth if you're worried about smudges but I've found over time, the oils spread across the phone's screen and you don't even really notice it anymore. This has been the case with my Zune HD (Gorilla), EVO (Gorilla), Inspire (Gorilla), and myTouch4G (Gorilla as well).
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Yeah I figured as much. Not a big deal because i wear glasses so I always have a microfiber cloth close by. So will I be able to see clearly in direct sunlight with the G2X. I have a N1 and I have to turn brightness setting all the way up during daytime/outside just to see what I'm doing. Do you think I will have this problem again
I still keep the protective plastic on the display... just in case.
It doesn't affect usability
chillwill11 said:
Yeah I figured as much. Not a big deal because i wear glasses so I always have a microfiber cloth close by. So will I be able to see clearly in direct sunlight with the G2X. I have a N1 and I have to turn brightness setting all the way up during daytime/outside just to see what I'm doing. Do you think I will have this problem again
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From what I've been reading about IPS technology, it should be quite bright even on the lowest setting. I've left all my phones on auto brightness and couldn't even read a S-AMOLED in direct sunlight - still gotta shade it. Its not a huge deal though. I wear glasses too and if I put sunglasses on, I can usually read my phone in direct sunlight.
buch85 said:
I still keep the protective plastic on the display... just in case.
It doesn't affect usability
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LOL! How can you say it hasn't affected your usability when you still have it on there? I left mine on the myTouch4G initially because I didn't have plans to keep it and didn't want to risk anything... taps were missed occasionally so I took it off - now its almost as responsive as the Inspire (admittedly THE most sensitive screen I've ever used).
did you just say MYtouch4G has Gorilla also, are we sure? I've seen so many of them broken.
My mom dropped her MT4G one time and it shattered completely. might be that unlucky way it landed, but a few devs from here had the same issue. I've dropped the G2, and my Nexus One many, many of times and never had it break. I've dropped my Nexus One TONS and it never got a scratch.
My G2x will be here Monday, I'm wondering if the curved glass will make it less likely to break if lands face down, or more likely to.
just for peace of mind I'd get a good quaility screen protector, doesn't affect responsiveness too much.
From the latest review by Androidpolice.com: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/11/07/google-nexus-4-review-the-beautifully-crafted-premium-flagship-phone-that-android-deserves/
"Since this whole smartphone thing started, every phone has had a glass front - a glass front that is easily breakable. So unless you are clamoring for a plastic touchscreen, I don't see how you can say it's ok for the front to be glass, but not the back."
Preach on, brother :highfive:
I don't mind the glass back as long as it's not the cause of the phone overheating. I live in Arizona and hopefully I can use this phone in the summer and not have it melt in my hands.
Ravynmagi said:
I don't mind the glass back as long as it's not the cause of the phone overheating. I live in Arizona and hopefully I can use this phone in the summer and not have it melt in my hands.
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I was wondering why in the small print it said that the N4 wasn't available in Arizona. Now I know it is because of the "Melty Phone" issue
MN_Bug said:
From the latest review by Androidpolice.com: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/11/07/google-nexus-4-review-the-beautifully-crafted-premium-flagship-phone-that-android-deserves/
"Since this whole smartphone thing started, every phone has had a glass front - a glass front that is easily breakable. So unless you are clamoring for a plastic touchscreen, I don't see how you can say it's ok for the front to be glass, but not the back."
Preach on, brother :highfive:
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That doesn't make a lot of sense. Having a glass back and front makes it much more likely for even the front to shatter. The reason being glass has no give. So any shock can only be absorbed by the glass. Don't get me wrong, I'm getting the phone. But a glass back is always a concern.
MN_Bug said:
From the latest review by Androidpolice.com: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...premium-flagship-phone-that-android-deserves/
"Since this whole smartphone thing started, every phone has had a glass front - a glass front that is easily breakable. So unless you are clamoring for a plastic touchscreen, I don't see how you can say it's ok for the front to be glass, but not the back."
Preach on, brother :highfive:
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Well isn't gorilla glass technically plastic?
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Well isn't gorilla glass technically plastic?
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No. I believe it is chemically strengthened glass. To be exact, it is: alkali-aluminosilicate sheet glass. But not plastic. If you take a bunch of smart people and add a bunch of money, you get cool stuff like Gorilla Glass.
bozzykid said:
That doesn't make a lot of sense. Having a glass back and front makes it much more likely for even the front to shatter. The reason being glass has no give. So any shock can only be absorbed by the glass. Don't get me wrong, I'm getting the phone. But a glass back is always a concern.
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I think I liked what the comment was going for. The front has been glass and has been prone to breakage so adding it to the back shouldn't be that big of a deal. And since I found out the iPhone had it, that makes me less worried. If my wife hasn't broke her iPhone yet, then it must be indestructible.
This is best review I saw. Good job and can't wait to get this phone
bozzykid said:
That doesn't make a lot of sense. Having a glass back and front makes it much more likely for even the front to shatter. The reason being glass has no give. So any shock can only be absorbed by the glass. Don't get me wrong, I'm getting the phone. But a glass back is always a concern.
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Agreed. That's pretty dumb logic. Double the glass sufaces means double the chance of something shattering if dropped.
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If my wife hasn't broke her iPhone yet, then it must be indestructible.
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I can't tell if you are trying to be funny but the iPhone 4/4S are well known for the glass shattering real easy. With the metal band connecting the glass, neither side of glass has any give so it takes little to shatter it.
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I can't tell if you are trying to be funny but the iPhone 4/4S are well known for the glass shattering real easy. With the metal band connecting the glass, neither side of glass has any give so it takes little to shatter it.
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I'm going to have to stand by my quote
Wow great review by them. I'd say that theirs is the most in depth review I've read yet. I wasn't considering the phone before (as I am happy with my GNex) but now I am starting to want it.
Really like this review and just confirms my need for this bad boy N4!
i LOVE the patterned back, but i wouldn't have went with a glass back. it's fragile and adding it on the back side makes the phone even more vulnerable to shatter. it's a relieve to know that it's made out of Gorilla Glass 2. i had a phone with Gorilla Glass for 2 years without a scratch.
that said, i will be putting a bumper case onto mine.
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I don't mind the glass back as long as it's not the cause of the phone overheating. I live in Arizona and hopefully I can use this phone in the summer and not have it melt in my hands.
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Considering Glass is a pretty good thermal conductor, and plastic is effectively an insulator, I doubt that would have anything to do with it.
"The screen on time for both battery charts was 2 hours and 40ish minutes."
Ugh...that's horrible...
Gorrila glass is not so power as ads. still be crashed.
I've never had shattering issues on any phone... if any, I'm more concerned about scratches, which I guess makes the glass back good news.
If I happened to break the glass I just get another one from Google
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I get 4 hours of screen time on my Gnex and I think it's awful. He's saying the Nexus 4 doesn't even last 3 hours!!!
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Anyone else have faint small scratches on the Nexus 5.. The glass panel is from corning which should be 20-30% stronger than the previous gorilla glass 2. However what i'm seeing here is backwards... my galaxy s3 is pretty old now and actually dropped it face down a couple times maybe 2 feet? nexus 5 has not experienced a drop at all.
Heres the shocker
My s3 which has been used for almost 2 years has no scratches at all..
my nexus 5 however has 2 faint scratches on the right side, now im a very clean guy and i take care of my phones and i clear out my pockets everytime i put my phone in.
Gorilla glass has a hardness scale of 8-9 anything above it will scratch it doesn't matter how pointy or sharp it is.
However in my case the glass had some imperfections where the scale wasn't 8-9.
so this thread is about if you have faint scratches and if you have another device with Gorilla glass 3 and or 2 please compare them it would be interesting to see results. :good:
If your device is perfect please step outside in the sunlight and angle your phone in different ways you will find some..
Gorilla glass is scratch resistant not scratch proof...and something pointy or a sharp knife wont put a scratch on the screen but even minute particle of sand i.e. silica will scratch the screen as silica is the hardest thing on earth and even gorilla glass can't resist it!!
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SamBG said:
Gorilla glass is scratch resistant not scratch proof...and something pointy or a sharp knife wont put a scratch on the screen but even minute particle of sand i.e. silica will scratch the screen as silica is the hardest thing on earth and even gorilla glass can't resist it!!
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Yes i know that but what im saying is my older galaxy s3 has no scratches and my n5 does i dont know what scratched it but it did
Ur s3 was lucky enough that it survived a face drop without a single scratch whereas n5 isn't
Dats the only reason y i use a screen protector!!
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My s3 was much scratchier. They're resistant to an extent and mainly to bigger things. Its grains / dust that does the most damage.
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Yeah I have a lot a small scratches. A lot more than my Htc one, but still tolerable.
Although we have gorilla glass 3, I'd still advise others to use a traditional screen protector or a tempered glass protector if you prefer the natural feel of glass.
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All glass can scratch. There's probably many millions of people who have scratches on their GG2 and GG3 now, most not knowing the exact event which caused it.
Everyone knows that screen protectors prevent scratches on the glass. Everyone knows cases help prevent drop damages. If you don't use one, and get damage, you only have yourself to blame. If you don't use one, and get no damage, that's fortunate, but it doesn't mean that you'll be fortunate the next time.
The N5 has some of the most micro-scratch prone glass of any phone I've ever owned. My Moto X comes with me to work on construction sites, gets tossed in my tool bag with all my sharp tools, and just generally gets beat up, and there are maybe one or two micro-scratches on it, and you have to look hard to find them. My N5 on the other hand, which I've had for a much shorter amount of time, gets babied and never sees any type of hazard, is just covered in them. I have been taking ridiculously good care of it, but it seems like a new micro-scratch pops up daily. I don't really care because you can only see them when the screen is off, but it's still pretty ridiculous.
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my n5 is scratch free. no screen protection, no case, nothing. it gets tossed around, dropped, but always gets put into a pocket when carrying around. id say its handled whatever abuse ive thrown at it fairly well.
After a month I got a scratch on my phone, and I treat it like a baby :crying: , the nexus 4 lasted about 5 months without a scratch in comparison , I got a SGp nano tr glass to protect it , almost 40 euros ouch!
If I had a nickel for every time someone said their naked phone had no scratches on it, I would be rich. Some people are more sensitive to it and others just don't look hard enough or care enough if it's not immediately visible!
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Elisha said:
If I had a nickel for every time someone said their naked phone had no scratches on it, I would be rich. Some people are more sensitive to it and others just don't look hard enough or care enough if it's not immediately visible!
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im looking at it very hard at the moment, not a single scratch or nick. then again, im the type of person that washes the phone every day before leaving the home, and every evening before leaving work(the back and camera lens cover i wash as well). the slightest scratch would stick out and would be obvious to me. my nexus 4 also doesnt have any scratches on the front glass, but has many micro scratches on the back glass.
Wow guys. Its just a phone. Scratches may happen. Glass is glass. I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
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Wow guys. Its just a phone. Scratches may happen. Glass is glass. I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
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Every phone that come out people always seem to complain. It never fails.
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Dx9 said:
Wow guys. Its just a phone. Scratches may happen. Glass is glass. I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
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I guess... so when is this nexus 6 coming out?
Hopefully by then corning has moved out of glass and into Sapphire and or other materials
seeing my scratched Nexus 5 camera which has a case
or my naked iphone 5c camera which has a sapphire lens cover and its perfect so far.
If people have even the slightest concerns about scratches or micro scratches they should get a screen protector and out it on day one so they don't ever have to worry about this kind of stuff.
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im looking at it very hard at the moment, not a single scratch or nick. then again, im the type of person that washes the phone every day before leaving the home, and every evening before leaving work(the back and camera lens cover i wash as well). the slightest scratch would stick out and would be obvious to me. my nexus 4 also doesnt have any scratches on the front glass, but has many micro scratches on the back glass.
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Ha! I thought I was the only one who cleans their phone daily. I buy alcohol wipes specifically for wiping my phone and tablets down. I do it at the end of the day, every day. Keeps my toys looking brand new
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Ha! I thought I was the only one who cleans their phone daily. I buy alcohol wipes specifically for wiping my phone and tablets down. I do it at the end of the day, every day. Keeps my toys looking brand new
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i also use alcohol wipes to clean the phone, lol. only alcohol wipes. and only a bounty paper towel, as other paper towels leave residue. and yea, my old nexus 4 still looks brand new, except for the micro scratches on the back glass. ive always cleaned all my devices this way
neugenusis said:
Everyone knows that screen protectors prevent scratches on the glass. Everyone knows cases help prevent drop damages. If you don't use one, and get damage, you only have yourself to blame. If you don't use one, and get no damage, that's fortunate, but it doesn't mean that you'll be fortunate the next time.
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i couldn't have said it better myself
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So I got a oneplus 3t 2 days ago and took it to college for a day. I was blown away by the whole experience. The speed, camera quality, charging speeds and overall feel to the device really surprised me. After my first day with it, I got home and realized about 10 micro scratches along the bottom of the glass at the curve. I was taken aback because I never have scratches on my phones after over a year of having them and this had a bunch after a day.
My pockets were completely empty (no dust at bottom or anything). Since the scratches were at the top of where it would be in my pocket, I figured maybe a stud on my pants scratched it as I pulled it in or out. Checked my pants and no studs on the pair I was wearing. The phone was in my hands or pocket the entire day. How in the hell did it get scratches from touching soft cloth and flesh all day? Like what the hell, did they make their glass out of the ****tiest glass in the world?
If you don't use a protector, you will get scratches. Sorry!
Strange though, my tempered glass is still flawless, not a scratch on it. If I'd go naked I'm sure I get million scratches within the day.
Why did you go naked? Phone comes with a pre applied screen protector
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I agree the screen is VERY soft. I have a few hairline scratches on mine, and that was after day one of taking the plastic protector off (like a dummy).
Mine has dents and scratches all over the phone, lol
Here's a sample video from youtube
Its really a gorilla glass and the back camera is sapphire, its not easy to scratch according to the video
Jerry rig everything did his scratch test and it scratched like any phone at a level 6. But in a pocket you can have anything microscopic. Sand is the number one thing found in pockets and is a killer to any phone even gorilla glass 4 that the 3T has. https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=24t5yhGvvRs
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=j39qdOHHWpk
Mine has a hairline scratch too after 14 days of taking care...
Anyone else who took good care and never layed it facedown on table etc. and it scratched?
I've been using my 3T for a couple of weeks now without a screen protector and the screen is still flawless. I usually keep it in a neoprene pouch when not in use though. I really hate plastic screen protectors, and all of the current offering of glass protectors are too flawed in my opinion.
nano303 said:
Why did you go naked? Phone comes with a pre applied screen protector
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A plastic screen protector. Sorry not gonna buy a nice phone to have a plastic feel to it.
I have the phone since 28th November and I got no scratch. Have it with me without a case or glass
If you look closely under a lamp you will find scratches, sir.
If not, your eyesight is bad
aeppacher said:
A plastic screen protector. Sorry not gonna buy a nice phone to have a plastic feel to it.
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A Nice phone with a plastic screen protector is better than a nice phone with scratch!
Midomad said:
A Nice phone with a plastic screen protector is better than a nice phone with scratch!
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That's real talk!!
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Gorilla Glass 4 actually sacrificed some scratch resistance when compared with Gorilla Glass 3 in order to increase shatter resistance. So if you're coming from GG3 you may notice that.
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A Nice phone with a plastic screen protector is better than a nice phone with scratch!
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True lol, and plastic screen protector is very easy to replace and its cheap compare to the CGG4 of oneplus 3T which is expensive due to replacement of the whole screen.
Btw there's no official oneplus physical service centers that will handle it
Many people in my country fall for that stupid mistake
Better micro scratches than original plastic protector that attracts smudges as hell and ruins visual experience in general.
My OP3T is naked from day 1 for more than 2 months now and don't see any scratches. Maybe just because I don't give a damn looking at it closely or with a microscope
everydevice every glass can be scratched at certain level of tourcher if you dont like scratch use the protector always
Has any one thought how many scratches our cars have?? and we dont even care
Is this a phone or what? I use it naked. No scratches or anything. Still... I use it.
Do you just say that because scratches aren't affecting you from using the phone or did you check under some light?
I am sick of using a screen protector, is the screen realy scrach resistant.what you guys experienced?
You should watch JerryRigEverythings review of the Oneplus 3/3t here, as he says in the clip, our phone has gorilla glas 4 and scratches at level 6 and deeper scratches at level 7.
https://youtu.be/8PZ8W_g6Vvk
I've never used screen protector on mine. Only irritating thing is that it's quite prone to getting smudged by skin fat, that means the oleophobic coating of the screen surface could be better, maybe the only reason that I would put a screen protector on my 3t.
The screen protector definitely makes a big difference in durability and scratch-resistance, but after time with a case it kinda messes up the protector. I like using my phone without one.
The screen can get scratched.
ive got a few hair thin scratches on my screen so i wouldnt say that the glass is superb but it holds up against some abrasion. I just wouldnt put your keys in the same pocket as your phone.
This screen is definitely not scratch resistant. 4 months of usage and I've got one nice scratch down the middle and some superficial scratches towards the top corners. Phone has never been in a case, just keep it in a leather holster
Whether the glass is classified as "scratch resistant" is a semantic and marketing distinction. To answer "yes" or "no" to this (whether it is "really" scratch resistant) doesn't mean much of anything. Gorilla Glass is meant to resist some scratches. But that doesn't mean it can't be scratched (and far from it). And that doesn't account for oleophobic coating applied to it, which can also scratch.
For every person who says they never have gotten a scratch, you will find another person that scratched theirs in days/weeks. My other (work) phone is an iPhone (also Gorilla Glass). I'm admittedly not too gentle with it, and it got a big gouge on the screen the first week or so after I received it.
Whether to use a screen protector or not, comes down to a personal choice. Many folks don't like the feel or hassle of a protector. But if you don't use one, you will have to live with the potential of at least superficial scuffs, or even deeper scratches.
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ive got a few hair thin scratches on my screen so i wouldnt say that the glass is superb but it holds up against some abrasion. I just wouldnt put your keys in the same pocket as your phone.
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Keys cant damage gorilla glass unless they are made of diamond or any material which is harder or equally hard as gorilla glass, sand, concrete, diamond can scratch screen easily.. it doesnt matter how sharp the object is but how hard it is
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Keys cant damage gorilla glass unless they are made of diamond or any material which is harder or equally hard as gorilla glass, sand, concrete, diamond can scratch screen easily.. it doesnt matter how sharp the object is but how hard it is
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Walmart makes some strong keys then.
OcazPrime said:
Walmart makes some strong keys then.
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Its not keys.. your pocket probably has dust inside with particles of material which is harder than ur screen
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Its not keys.. your pocket probably has dust inside with particles of material which is harder than ur screen
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It's not a big deal really. Theyre so unnoticeable i have to actually seek them out to see them.
protocol717 said:
I am sick of using a screen protector, is the screen realy scrach resistant.what you guys experienced?
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No,i suggest you to use a screen protector.
protocol717 said:
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The Corning Gorilla Glass 4 is indeed 'Scratch-Proof' under normal usage in urban daily life, but still it cannot stand the IMPACT force when it drop to the ground, so get a TEMPERED GLASS Screen protector. If u still feel sick of using it, then spend some bucks to buy RhinoShield CrashGuard along with some DBrand skins ? !
Got to look 'SiCk' after that ?
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Isus <3 said:
Keys cant damage gorilla glass unless they are made of diamond or any material which is harder or equally hard as gorilla glass, sand, concrete, diamond can scratch screen easily.. it doesnt matter how sharp the object is but how hard it is
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While GG may be hard to scratch, it doesn't account for the oleophobic coating, which is much easier to scratch. To the user, it doesn't matter which scratches (the glass or the coating). A scratch is a scratch.
Scientifically you are correct. For that matter, you can't even scratch a regular glass beer bottle with a key (go ahead and try, I have) since the Moh's hardness of glass is 5.5 , and steel is only around 4.
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The Corning Gorilla Glass 4 is indeed 'Scratch-Proof' under normal usage in urban daily life
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Everyone (not just you, but others on the thread, including the original poster) should stop thinking about terms like "scratch resistant" and "scratch proof" as absolute yes/no things, since they aren't. There is no technical or scientific definition for these terms. Nothing is scratch proof, even a diamond can scratch a diamond. And I know you qualified it with "normal usage" but that term itself is completely subjective. Many folks wear diamond rings on their hands on a normal daily basis, after all.
Similar to the term "water proof" which doesn't really mean anything by itself. That is why things like IP ratings (which define specific water depth/pressure and exposure times) have been developed to better define water resistance/water proofness.
And as I already mentioned above, even if the glass was "scratch proof" (if there was such a thing), it would be irrelevant, since they've put a coating on top of the glass, that can be scratched.
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While GG may be hard to scratch, it doesn't account for the oleophobic coating, which is much easier to scratch. To the user, it doesn't matter which scratches (the glass or the coating). A scratch is a scratch.
Scientifically you are correct. For that matter, you can't even scratch a regular glass beer bottle with a key (go ahead and try, I have) since the Moh's hardness of glass is 5.5 , and steel is only around 4.
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Everyone (not just you, but others on the thread, including the original poster) should stop thinking about terms like "scratch resistant" and "scratch proof" as absolute yes/no things, since they aren't. There is no technical or scientific definition for these terms. Nothing is scratch proof, even a diamond can scratch a diamond. And I know you qualified it with "normal usage" but that term itself is completely subjective. Many folks wear diamond rings on their hands on a normal daily basis, after all.
Similar to the term "water proof" which doesn't really mean anything by itself. That is why things like IP ratings (which define specific water depth/pressure and exposure times) have been developed to better define water resistance/water proofness.
And as I already mentioned above, even if the glass was "scratch proof" (if there was such a thing), it would be irrelevant, since they've put a coating on top of the glass, that can be scratched.
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I dont think there would be any visible damage to our eyes if oleophobic coating was scratched.. i'd feel its as easy to scratch as paint from metal or wall or wood so if you would be able to see oleophobic scratches my phone would already look like a scratch hell
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I dont think there would be any visible damage to our eyes if oleophobic coating was scratched.. i'd feel its as easy to scratch as paint from metal or wall or wood so if you would be able to see oleophobic scratches my phone would already look like a scratch hell
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It may be why folks are seeing superficial scuffs on the screen.
I've definitely seen oleophobic (or some other type of coating) get scratched on other devices. On my old HTC M8, it was reported by many users (myself included) that the coating on the back camera was getting scratched and peeling to the point that it clouded the photos. Removing the coating (various methods, most used alcohol, toothpaste, or some other mild solvent or abrasive) and the glass underneath was just fine (no scratches). This is probably a "worst case" example where the coating was particularly low quality. And just the camera glass, not the screen. But an example, nonetheless.
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I am sick of using a screen protector, is the screen realy scrach resistant.what you guys experienced?
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I took it off from day one, and have regretted it ever since. I haven't dropped the phone nor put it in a pocket with anything else, yet I have two scratches... A light one in the top left corner of the phone and a deeper one I can feel with my nail in the centre. Not sure how but yeah...
So I'd keep it on if I were you.
OmJo93 said:
I took it off from day one, and have regretted it ever since. I haven't dropped the phone nor put it in a pocket with anything else, yet I have two scratches... A light one in the top left corner of the phone and a deeper one I can feel with my nail in the centre. Not sure how but yeah...
So I'd keep it on if I were you.
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There is no anti-scratch phone, If you care for your phone you'll need a screen protector,PERIOD.
Midomad said:
There is no scratch proof phone, If you care for your phone you'll need a screen protector,PERIOD.
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Yeah, I got a bit overconfident after watching JerryRigEverythings videos and took it off. A few months later I'm ordering a pack of screen protectors off Amazon and looking at maybe replacing the screen.
I still hope they are just in the oleophobic coating but doesn't seem likely. At least for the second one. And it's not really worth the risk of removing the coating to find out.
The 3T screen is pretty soft. I've owned this phone twice ([emoji38]), and both times just sliding in my pocket has created small scratches. The small scratches that you can only see, if you angle the phone in light, not a biggie, but if you have OCD..it will bug the heck out of you. Also if you ever sell, just know most OnePlus 3T screens will trend towards "good" vs mint.
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I dont think there would be any visible damage to our eyes if oleophobic coating was scratched.. i'd feel its as easy to scratch as paint from metal or wall or wood so if you would be able to see oleophobic scratches my phone would already look like a scratch hell
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The hair thin scratches are usually in oleophobic coating and not in glass, so yeah it's definitely visible.