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So I know being rooted and receiving OTAs isn't a problem, but I've read that having frozen apps can be. What happens if I/we get an OTA and an app is frozen? Does it fail gracefully or will I have a nice shiny paperweight as a result?Could we freeze/disable the update app/service until they push one out and we're ready for it?
Most likely the phone will reboot to do the update but will fail during the file system check. Your phone will then boot again and a message will pop up telling you the update has failed.
This is what happened with my D2. I would expect the same to apply to the D3.
Yes, your phone will refuse to take the update.
Nice. Sounds like it fails pretty gracefully.
Let's say your rooted but did not freeze or do anything at all will you still get a update. I've herd yes you can and no you can't. I can understand if you have froze or deleted things that you wont but if you didn't do a single thing except root that you might be able to get an update?
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If you're rooted but have not frozen / deleted anything you will get the update and likely lose your root.
Getting the update to install successfully depends on what you have frozen vs. What the update tries to update. If you freeze something it wants to update, it will fail.
Root itself doesn't play a part in this.
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So having the update fail because of required frozen apps may be a good thing! It will prevent unroot and prevent a fix to the root exploit on your phone.. giving you time to come back to the forum and check for other users experience.. i love XDA...
I definitely want an update when one comes out to fix the camera a the cell standby. I have froze stuff but I will unfreeze them when an update comes out. But nice to know that I don't have to do any weird stuff to take an update. Now will we be able to root again.
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If you're rooted but have not frozen / deleted anything you will get the update and likely lose your root.
Getting the update to install successfully depends on what you have frozen vs. What the update tries to update. If you freeze something it wants to update, it will fail.
Root itself doesn't play a part in this.
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Honestly, it's best to just wait. The update might patch root exploits and be very hard to root. If you wait just a little bit, then the devs will release a rooted and flashable update. Well, when we have recovery, that is. But recovery shouldn't be too far off.
If fixing the camera and cell standby is more important than root, then you should proceed with the update. If you want to keep your root, do not update quite yet, as GoogleAndroid said. It just might patch the exploit.
I would like to have non blue pics that would be nice. My phone ran really good before I froze stuff its a bit faster now so I would take the update and im sure someone will root that if not im still a happy droid 3 owner.
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Hi! Does anyone have this problem? When I go to System Updates it gets me a message that reads "Check for update is not available at this time. Try again later". I know the update is not realease yet but I'm concerned that if something is wrong. I tried with 3g and Wifi and it's the same. I rooted my phone and uninstall some apps from Verizon. Could this be the problem?
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I know the update is not realease yet
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You just answered your own question.
Nope, I did'nt because on the other hand when I had a Motorola Droid 2 when I went to System Updates the message was different: "your device is updated, there's no other update available". What I meant is... The Droid 2 checks for updates even if aren't available, but the Droid 3 don't search, just says that it can't check.
Just wait a few moments and press check for update again, this usually checks properly, no idea why, mine does it too.
being rooted and especially missing some of the Verizon bloatware could certainly hamper your ability to update.
I also had this issue, multiple attempts to start the update immediately (and I mean no delay) came back with the same error.
I just manually ran the leaked OTA instead since it's been confirmed as the 'real deal'.
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Nope, I did'nt because on the other hand when I had a Motorola Droid 2 when I went to System Updates the message was different: "your device is updated, there's no other update available". What I meant is... The Droid 2 checks for updates even if aren't available, but the Droid 3 don't search, just says that it can't check.
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My D3 says, "You Device is up to Date! No update is necessary at this time."
I'm rooted and multiple bloat apps uninstalled(didn't know about Freezing prior).
I don't think it has anything to do with root. My girlfriends d3 isn't rooted and it tells her its up to date as well and our builds are the same. I think its verizon.
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Yeah same, mines rooted, multiple apps frozen, with the "leaked/soaked" OTA update, and it says "You Device is up to Date! No update is necessary at this time.".
While rooted and having bloat killed the phone should download the update. It will just fail to install, because the update checks for system changes.
Where exactly did someone confirm the ota is the same as the "leak"? OTA isn't out yet, so I want to read the confirmation info myself.
The last time I flashed a leak (htc eris) I was stuck on a leak while everyone who was patient received the final release version OTA. We didn't get access to the latest stuff until roughly a month after those who waited.
Just curious, don't want to make the same mistake twice. Lol.
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Yeah same, mines rooted, multiple apps frozen, with the "leaked/soaked" OTA update, and it says "You Device is up to Date! No update is necessary at this time.".
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Always unfreeze, just in case.
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First sentence http://support.vzw.com/pdf/system_update/droid_3.pdf
Hi all,
My wife and I both got Bionic the same day. Mine is rooted and hers is not. I noticed on hers you can go to settings>about phone>system updates and check to see if there are any.
However on my rooted phone it allways says something to the effect of ...'not available at this time". If I turn on wifi and try, it will have the spinning logo like its checking and says its checking, but this goes on without end.
Any ideas? Does rooting somehow disable your ability to receive system updates?
Thanks!
Yes
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yes system updates are disabled typically on rooted devices because system updates may patch exploits that allowed the phone to be rooted meaning you may lose root permanately
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Is it worth un-rooting to get the newest update? Can you root again after the update is installed?
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Is it worth un-rooting to get the newest update? Can you root again after the update is installed?
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NONONONO! The newest update isnt rootable yet!
Usually updates don't offer a big advantage anyways. I would research the update and make sure you really really really want to possibly lose root just to gain the advantage of whatever the update gives you.
9 times out of ten, I find the update to be pretty useless to even worry about.
So I just got a notification from ATT saying that there is a software update available. Has anyone else gotten this and installed it? Is it jelly bean or a minor update? I haven't tried it myself because I am rooted.
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So I just got a notification from ATT saying that there is a software update available. Has anyone else gotten this and installed it? Is it jelly bean or a minor update? I haven't tried it myself because I am rooted.
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Yes just got it I'm Rooted & S-OFF
it won't be jelly bean since the ONE X series doesn't have it yet haha just a minor I bet
Can someone detail this update?
*Edit* Called AT&T the Update was released October 9th it an 13mb update so yea Minor the girl
on the phone was talking to fast for me to listen what it offers
Got it last night. Android version did not change. Couldn't tell for sure if any other numbers updated. It wouldn't kill AT&T to send out an e-mail or text message telling us what the update was for.
got the same thing i have no idea what is the update
Update has my phone stuck in a darn boot loop..any idea what it is?
Sorry bludiamond.
Since my phone is rooted, I did not want to install this update. It's quite upsetting that AT&T forces the update unconditionally.
Anyway, I had let the download to complete, but did not let it to install. The update did prompt me, whether I want it to install now, or later. I had opted for later.
Then, after some Googling, I had deleted the download (from /sdcard/Download), and had un-installed the following services: com.htc.demoflopackageinstaller and com.smithmicro.dm.
Then, I've rebooted the phone. Afterwards, the phone still had a notification, that there's an update ready to be installed. When, selecting the notification, updater did realize that the downloaded file is gone, and had prompted me whether or not I'd like to download the update again, on which, I had responded no. The notification is gone, and AT&T did not prompt me to download and install the update again, at least not yet.
My phone seems to be OK.
I was hoping for a new Radio/RIL. That's not what this is...
New Kernel & Recovery. If you are rooted and on a custom rom Do Not run the update. I'm sure the developer of the rom you are on will work to add anything useful to future updates.
The dates on these files is 7/27/12 so it took At$t over to months to test & release.
To delete it look in /cache/fota/OTAPkg.zip
Once gone you shouldn't be bothered by it anymore.
Have anyone successfuly downloaded and installed it?
What's new? Bluetooth bugs fixes? Usable Voice Dialer? Better battery life?
Sense 4.0?
Please comment.
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gattech said:
Have anyone successfuly downloaded and installed it?
What's new? Bluetooth bugs fixes? Usable Voice Dialer? Better battery life?
Sense 4.0?
Please comment.
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Think the majority of users on here are rooted and running custom roms so they wouldnt' be installing this.
I forgot I was unlocked and rooted. Now I am really stuck. How do I get out of the dead Android loop?
I googled the update, and found this on the ATT Support website.
Beginning on October 9, 2012, AT&T and HTC have released an additional software update for the HTC Vivid that will be available via firmware over-the-air (FOTA). This 13MB software package updates the firmware version to 3.26.502.56_R23 and improves sensor performance.
NOTE: Customers must have a data SOC in order to obtain any FOTA updates. Customers who have a data opt-out SOC are not able to receive FOTA updates.
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Think the majority of users on here are rooted and running custom roms so they wouldnt' be installing this.
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Hmmm....
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For the users in boot loop I just recovered from it. Boot into cwm and clear the cache a couple of times and reboot.
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For the users in boot loop I just recovered from it. Boot into cwm and clear the cache a couple of times and reboot.
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This Fix works. My phone no longer boot loops
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Sorry bludiamond.
Since my phone is rooted, I did not want to install this update. It's quite upsetting that AT&T forces the update unconditionally.
Anyway, I had let the download to complete, but did not let it to install. The update did prompt me, whether I want it to install now, or later. I had opted for later.
Then, after some Googling, I had deleted the download (from /sdcard/Download), and had un-installed the following services: com.htc.demoflopackageinstaller and com.smithmicro.dm.
Then, I've rebooted the phone. Afterwards, the phone still had a notification, that there's an update ready to be installed. When, selecting the notification, updater did realize that the downloaded file is gone, and had prompted me whether or not I'd like to download the update again, on which, I had responded no. The notification is gone, and AT&T did not prompt me to download and install the update again, at least not yet.
My phone seems to be OK.
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After getting my phone out of the boot loop I tried this and am no longer prompted to update. Thank you for the help
Apatche69 said:
This Fix works. My phone no longer boot loops
After getting my phone out of the boot loop I tried this and am no longer prompted to update. Thank you for the help
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I had the looping issue too. I cleared the cache once and rebooted. Received a message that there was a problem with the update and to wait for the next update. Phone seems to be okay since.
I'm unlocked s/on..no custom rom..it was so early, I must have hit the wrong button, so I'm stuck in the loop and can't seem to get into recovery either..ugh
I'm stock - not rooted. I did do the download without any problems, although you do have to manually reboot after the update.
It supposedly improves the sensor. Not sure what that means, but that's what the ATT website says. Other than it changing my default ringtone, I don't see any difference.
Could not get it out of the loop. Took it to the service center and neither could they..they ended up replacing it under warranty..thank goodness. Said that another lady came in with the same issue as well.
AT&T Upgrade to Nowhere
I'm running stock on the HTC Vivid and got this upgrade pushed out by AT&T. This is the second AT&T upgrade I've done on this phone (the first was to ICS not long after I got the phone).
I ran the update yesterday, which force rebooted my phone and I watched as the upgrade downloaded and installed, then came back up.
NOTHING has changed. I don't know what AT&T supposedly upgraded, but it's certainly nothing noticeable.
I didn't even get the "3.26.502.56_R23" software designation that the AT&T help article says I was supposed to see.
It was literally an upgrade to nowhere. Not sure why I wasted time off the grid and battery power on it.
As usual-- AT&T fail.
At least no harm was done.
I was rooted, stock ROM, and got the notification yesterday. I postponed as much as I could but it finally wouldn't let me anymore and I let it try to update.
Of course, went into a boot loop. I did eventually get the boot looping to stop by reflashing the wxc recovery image and CWM-root, but then my wifi wouldn't work. I suspected some difference in the kernel version or some other borking of the update.
Long story short, I had to re-lock, go back to stock, and re-unlock and root again. Then spend the time (ongoing) to get my environment back. Thank goodness for Titanium backup pro and Dropbox. LOL.
Wish I could bill AT&T for the 18 hours I've spent. And if they push it to me again, I'll be irritated.
So 5.1.1 for the att Samsung galaxy s6 has finally been released! Now I do hope the memory leak issue will get addressed in this build, but I am wondering if we should avoid updating to it if we are rooted? I wonder how long it will take for our custom roms to update to this.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-s6-edge-received-android-511-update-att
Well I hope someone puts up a .tar file for us to flash this instead of relying on the OTA. I jut do not like OTA updates. Something always seems to go wrong
Never had a issue when plugged in with wifi. Never DL walking around and still using phone. That is why everyone has a problem. Not sure if your case but throwing it out there.
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I just can't get the update at all. It's not showing up.
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Over WIFI? Nothing? I was just release so maybe it's a rolling release. Hmmm
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Yeah even wifi. I changed the date multiple times still nothing. Just depressing. I bought the device straight out so the locked bootloader is sad enough but making the updates ota only is just crazy.
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Unfortunately S6 active isn't mentioned anywhere
Hope that the update comes out for s6 active soon and someone provide with a .tar file flashing with Odin
Been trying to update my wife's phone since last night and everytime it says that the update failed. I have tried 3 times and no luck.
Enable all the apps you previously disabled. Set the time forward and try again.
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Been trying to update my wife's phone since last night and everytime it says that the update failed. I have tried 3 times and no luck.
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Same thing. Haven't tried with disabled apps enabled yet though.
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Enable all the apps you previously disabled. Set the time forward and try again.
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How can I check that? Where do I need to look at to see if she has disabled by accident something? Thanks in advance
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How can I check that? Where do I need to look at to see if she has disabled by accident something? Thanks in advance
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Installing now - let's see how bad AT&T cocked up the update.
I have no apps disabled, non rooted, and still am getting install failed.
I did uninstall some apps when I first got the phone. Could that be causing the failed update?
Successfully updated to 5.1.1.. Seems a bit smoother but other than that, nothing big..checked if they added any sort of shutter control..nope
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Has anyone tried to run older root methods yet to see if anything works? Sometimes with new OTAs, previous exploits are overlooked.
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The memory management is sooo much better. Flipboard stays open on all day now
I think Ive seen it somewhere but cant seem to find it. Is there a wayto unroot or flash din files to take the 5.1.1 update. I am currently rooted and used flash fire to get to OF3. Can I just odin the oe2 files and take the update?
Does it have better performance than one of those ultra lite rom's? I am considering of getting off of my custom rom so I can take this update.