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Froyo Flashing Questions

Hi I have just bought Motorola Milestone which seems like Vodafone unlocked version. I am new at Android will ask few general questions.
1. How to identify if the phone is rooted or not?
2. Can I flash my phone (Build SHOLS_U2_02.36.0) to Android 2.2 I am currently running 2.1 Update1
3. What should I do before flashing rom?
4. What are Must-Have software applications to "play" (Flash, Overclock, Reconfigure) with on the phone
THANKs

Hi and enjoy your new Milestone..!
1) Check if you have an app "Superuser" installed, with a pirate's icon. If yes, you are Rooted. Or install an app that needs Root and see if it works well.
2) There's no official FroYo ROM yet, we are waiting for it any day now. But you can flash other FroYo ROMs from Milestone Android Development Forum.
3) You should Read carefully..
4) OpenRecovery, RSD Lite, Motorola USB Drivers
Enjoy modding..!

jafargio said:
Hi I have just bought Motorola Milestone which seems like Vodafone unlocked version. I am new at Android will ask few general questions.
3. What should I do before flashing rom?
4. What are Must-Have software applications to "play" (Flash, Overclock, Reconfigure) with on the phone
THANKs
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3. Read up in the forums for the details. In general, you need to
A. Flash vulnerable recovery using RSD (requires MOT usb drivers)
B. Install a new recovery (androidiani is most likely best one for milestone)
C. Install the custom ROM of your choice (most newer roms are froyo based, give you root and already overclocked. My fav is CM6.
4.
In to what I listed above, a few must have (or at least nice to have) apps:
A. Setcpu (overclocking gui and profiles)
B. rootexplorer (file manager with options for root users)
C. Google apps (aka GAPPS). Many roms do need come with the google experience stuff like market and gmail). You need to downlaod seperately.
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Don't want to open another thread, but someone might be able to help me.
Yesterday i got my phone back from repairs (headphone socket) and decided to try the new Sense Rom. Liked it, but performance wasn't to my tastes. i installed the backup from my normal 2.2 ROM.
My question is, for example if i install the iceandfire rom (which i see is being updated all the time), will i have to do a complete reinstall of the ROM every time?

peter9991 said:
Don't want to open another thread, but someone might be able to help me.
Yesterday i got my phone back from repairs (headphone socket) and decided to try the new Sense Rom. Liked it, but performance wasn't to my tastes. i installed the backup from my normal 2.2 ROM.
My question is, for example if i install the iceandfire rom (which i see is being updated all the time), will i have to do a complete reinstall of the ROM every time?
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I am a bit confused...dod you have a milestone. If so, did you mean your 'normal' 2.1 ROM?
The MS does not have 2.2 yet...
In any case, you usually do not need to do a full wipe for incremental versions. I have never tried iceandfire, but CM6 and others work like this. Only major revisions require wipes. Clearing the dalvik cache and cache partition (easy to do from openrecovery) is usually all that is required. This does not impact any of your data...
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sorry, i meant the GOT version.
It seems to be the most vanillaish version out at the moment.

peter9991 said:
sorry, i meant the GOT version.
It seems to be the most vanillaish version out at the moment.
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Ah...well if by vanillaish, you mean stock...there are currently at least 2 leaked versions more recent than GOT. GOT is actually rather old and buggy.
But your point is taken, it is a Motorolaish release. I prefer AOSP (android open source project) based ROMs. Motorola proprietary files are still used (drivers and kernel), but the rest is all open source/ customized.
IMHO, this provides features and stuff people actually want.
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Hi again. I was reading some other posts but I am still confused.
I have no understanding why all these stuff is used for updating ROM on the device.
What is Open Recovery? why is it used and what does Root-ing do?
I also noticed several times in posts saying Nandroid, Downgrading Recovery Partition, sbf recovery....
Can anyone describe what exactly all these things mean and why are they used for?
Thanks.

jafargio said:
Hi again. I was reading some other posts but I am still confused.
I have no understanding why all these stuff is used for updating ROM on the device.
What is Open Recovery? why is it used and what does Root-ing do?
I also noticed several times in posts saying Nandroid, Downgrading Recovery Partition, sbf recovery....
Can anyone describe what exactly all these things mean and why are they used for?
Thanks.
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you should start from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932196

I don't have an folder named nandroid in open recovery.please help.thanks in advance
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vishal18793 said:
I don't have an folder named nandroid in open recovery.please help.thanks in advance
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you have to create it manually...

Please could you give me a detailed explanation. Should I go in quick office, create a new folder, name it nandroid and that's all? Now when I go in recovery menu there if I chose create backup and will it get saved in the folder I've created?
Please help I'm new to rooting and flashing.
Thanks for the reply.
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[Q] Queries

My questions:
1. What is a safestrap?
2. What is a bootstrap?
3. What are the differences between the two?
4. What is the general instruction regarding ROM flashing?
5. Do different ROMs have different flashing methods?
6. Are MIUI and CM7 ROMs available?
Also, please recommend a few ROMs.
Thanks!

nightshade246 said:
My questions:
1. What is a safestrap?
2. What is a bootstrap?
3. What are the differences between the two?
4. What is the general instruction regarding ROM flashing?
5. Do different ROMs have different flashing methods?
6. Are MIUI and CM7 ROMs available?
Also, please recommend a few ROMs.
Thanks!
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1) You can boot into safestrap and like clockworkmod you can wipe or install ZIP etc. Difference is with safestrap you can enable "safesystem" which will backup your current ROM (by saving /data I think?). This way you can always return to your stock ROM by turning off safesystem.
2) Bootstrap is like safestrap but without the safesystem.
3) ^
4) 1) root, 2) install either bootstrap or safestrap, 3) wipe data, 4) install ZIP
5) Some require safestrap but it'll probably be noted if it does. Otherwise it's pretty much the same
6) CM7 is, but because android 4.0 came along, it was never 100% finished. It works fine though. I think someone started MIUI port but never heard from it again
I'm currently using MAVROM and i think it's one of the best GB roms, so thats what I'd recommend:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/maverick-rom-d3/206295-maverick-rom-d3-v4-0-a.html

DoubleYouPee said:
1) You can boot into safestrap and like clockworkmod you can wipe or install ZIP etc. Difference is with safestrap you can enable "safesystem" which will backup your current ROM (by saving /data I think?). This way you can always return to your stock ROM by turning off safesystem.
2) Bootstrap is like safestrap but without the safesystem.
3) ^
4) 1) root, 2) install either bootstrap or safestrap, 3) wipe data, 4) install ZIP
5) Some require safestrap but it'll probably be noted if it does. Otherwise it's pretty much the same
6) CM7 is, but because android 4.0 came along, it was never 100% finished. It works fine though. I think someone started MIUI port but never heard from it again
I'm currently using MAVROM and i think it's one of the best GB roms, so thats what I'd recommend:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/maverick-rom-d3/206295-maverick-rom-d3-v4-0-a.html
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Thank you very much!
You have helped me a great deal!
=)
Could you please give me the link for the CM7 ROM and the safestrap if it's not too much to ask?

nightshade246 said:
Thank you very much!
You have helped me a great deal!
=)
Could you please give me the link for the CM7 ROM and the safestrap if it's not too much to ask?
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CM7 can be found here, and there's a link on that page to Safestrap downloads as well. Just make sure to grab the one for the Droid 3.

Do check up on whats not working with CM7.. You might wanna use maverick rom instead

DoubleYouPee said:
Do check up on whats not working with CM7.. You might wanna use maverick rom instead
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What does the Maverick ROM have over CM7?

[Q] Hello, new here, messed up my droid 3

yes i have tried many things before posting here....
used to have a droid x and ran liberty on it.
um, lets see i tried to boot my droid 3 with a ROM based on 4.2 (i think it said its compatible with my version, 5.7.906.XT862.en.US.
its like cyanogenmod 10 or something like that.
here is what i did after having rooted of course:
-installed droid 3 bootstrap
-backed everything up using said app
-downloaded the ROM i wanted
-installed ROM manager
-installed the ROM i wanted.
to my surprise when the phone booted back up it was basically stock. it had all the stock apps that come with the phone, except certain things were not working right even then. i could not access google play. i could not access 3g i dont think, it seemed to be running on 1x or something.
tried holding m+power button and i tried a few options in that menu, none of which would properly boot my droid 3 bootstrap.
any idea what the heck happened?

Hello.
The CM10 roms can not work with bootstrap. You need safestrap 3.0x to install them.
I would suggest you go back to stock using SBF:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1686911
After that, root, and install safestrap 3.05.
From there you can install any rom you want (GB, ICS, JB).
Do note that only GB roms are fully functional. None of the JB builds have camera and the ICS builds aren't nearly finished

DoubleYouPee said:
Hello.
The CM10 roms can not work with bootstrap. You need safestrap 3.0x to install them.
I would suggest you go back to stock using SBF:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1686911
After that, root, and install safestrap 3.05.
From there you can install any rom you want (GB, ICS, JB).
Do note that only GB roms are fully functional. None of the JB builds have camera and the ICS builds aren't nearly finished
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yea i dont necessarily use the camera on mine, but i did note that before trying to install it. thank you for your help i am installing the SBF right now. hopefully this works.

Don't use rom manager for the D3
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Yeah you need Safestrap 3.0.5 not bootstrap you can grab it here, http://goo.im/devs/hashcode/solana , make sure to uninstall bootstrap before installing safe strap

okay i got steeldroid a gb version of it installed and it works fine
but how do i get ICS and JB versions installed? i tried both in slot 1 and neither would work properly i just got boot loops im assuming i need firmware but i havent seen any downloads or ways to update my phone.

CM 10 Stable Realase

1.Hello everybody I have been waiting for a Stable version of cm 10 to be released and scince there is now one available I would like to know how to properly install. It on my droid 4 scince I haven't found proper instructions. I've already downloaded the rom.
I also have a couple of questions like
2.what issues the stable version has?
3.How do i flash the stock rom back? I'cant remember. (I have a zip containing the rom on my sdcard)
4.Will i lose everything when Flasing to and from cm10?
5.Could you explain me rom slots? ( i have heard this but I don't know what it means for the droid 4)
You don't have to answer all of my questions but please include the number of the question when answering one
Thanks for your time.
Motorola Droid 4

axel2230 said:
1.Hello everybody I have been waiting for a Stable version of cm 10 to be released and scince there is now one available I would like to know how to properly install. It on my droid 4 scince I haven't found proper instructions. I've already downloaded the rom.
I also have a couple of questions like
2.what issues the stable version has?
3.How do i flash the stock rom back? I'cant remember. (I have a zip containing the rom on my sdcard)
4.Will i lose everything when Flasing to and from cm10?
5.Could you explain me rom slots? ( i have heard this but I don't know what it means for the droid 4)
You don't have to answer all of my questions but please include the number of the question when answering one
Thanks for your time.
Motorola Droid 4
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no issues that -I- know of.... all radios work
you SHOULD have the stock safe using safestrap
-cm flashes on slot 1 only or it will not boot
the first time you flash yes you will lose stuff BUT use TB to back up your stuff first
root and install safestrap 3.11 first and then we will talk.
download it from here
http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/downloads/safestrap/

I forgot to mention that my phone is already rooted and on stock jelly bean. Ive installed safetsrap via the link you provided me and installed recovery but safe system says not active
P.S. dont worry about the backups science i know how to do these myself via rom toolbox.
Motorola Droid 4

axel2230 said:
I forgot to mention that my phone is already rooted and on stock jelly bean. Ive installed safetsrap via the link you provided me and installed recovery but safe system says not active
P.S. dont worry about the backups science i know how to do these myself via rom toolbox.
Motorola Droid 4
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very first option on the top left in safestrap should be the area to make a new slot..
just make it 1GB and again make sure its in slot 1 or it won't boot

je2854 said:
very first option on the top left in safestrap should be the area to make a new slot..
just make it 1GB and again make sure its in slot 1 or it won't boot
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so this means i can flash stock rom on rom slot 2 and leave cm 10 on rom slot 1

axel2230 said:
so this means i can flash stock rom on rom slot 2 and leave cm 10 on rom slot 1
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Stock ROM is in stock rom slot. you can flash cm10 in slot 1 and use the other 3 slots for something else

FSN said:
Stock ROM is in stock rom slot. you can flash cm10 in slot 1 and use the other 3 slots for something else
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I think he was talking about leaving his stock ROM intact and flashing another stock ROM in another slot... (I do that to perserve pure stock)
my setup is as follows
Slot-0 = Pure Stock with the ability to uninstall Root
Slot-1 = cm10.1/PAC/Carbon (A.D.D and cannot decide lol)
Slot-2 = empty
Slot-3 = Liquid
Slot-4 = Stock with permanent root
The reason I have it set up this way is if I need to bring it in or deal with anybody I can instantly switch to any ROM I choose.
select Slot-0 and uninstall/hide root and uninstall SafeStrap BAM! the phone has never been touched. Reinstall SS3.11 and
switch back over to Slot-4. I need something tested.... choose Slot-1
so as you see it is like using Boot Manager...

[Q] ow to flash Minimoto as default rom and uninstall safetrap into Verizon Droid 3

I have my Droid 3 working with the Stock rom and the safetrap using MiniMoto. Right now with all the changes I have made to it it works good, now I want to move it from safetrap to the phone as the default rom, I haven't found much info of going from safetrap to flash into the phone, any ideas?
As far as I know, I see that I would have to use the rsd, but I see that it flashes img files, I just have the zip file from the latest minimoto so... I am lost here.

XDADoog said:
I have my Droid 3 working with the Stock rom and the safetrap using MiniMoto. Right now with all the changes I have made to it it works good, now I want to move it from safetrap to the phone as the default rom, I haven't found much info of going from safetrap to flash into the phone, any ideas?
As far as I know, I see that I would have to use the rsd, but I see that it flashes img files, I just have the zip file from the latest minimoto so... I am lost here.
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AFAIK there is no way to transfer a rom from safestrap to the stock system.
As a thought, and I have no idea if this would work, if you're using safestrap 3+ it saves custom roms as image files on the sd and mounts then for use. Logically you could try flashing this image file using motofastboot but I'm just talking out my ass, so...
If you're on an older safestrap, I had an idea about this once, I'll see if I can find the post I wrote when I get off work. I never tried it but it made sense to me
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I see...
So, just to be clear, to flash over stock it has to be an img file. The rom developer must have this option instead of zip? I'm looking to replace the stock rom with something less bloated like MiniMoto but as far as I see most of the Droid 3 roms apparently only run on Safestrap (I have the latest version 3.5) Damn I was looking to move all to the phone system so it would run a little bit faster
P.D.: Are there roms that could be flashed to replace the stock one then?

XDADoog said:
I see...
So, just to be clear, to flash over stock it has to be an img file. The rom developer must have this option instead of zip? I'm looking to replace the stock rom with something less bloated like MiniMoto but as far as I see most of the Droid 3 roms apparently only run on Safestrap (I have the latest version 3.5) Damn I was looking to move all to the phone system so it would run a little bit faster
P.D.: Are there roms that could be flashed to replace the stock one then?
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Any rom can be flashed over stock, just not worth safestrap. You need plain old bootstrap app. However that doesn't help you move an existing rom install(which is what I thought you were asking)
I don't use safestrap on my phone and have minimoto installed as my stock rom. Just be aware brick recovery can be more difficult as I've had issues getting back into cwm after flashing a rom. Rsdlite will still get you back to stock no problem though so not that big a deal
Here is a http://db.tt/rNhVQCsclink for bootstrap. You'll need to boot into stock system and completely remove safestrap before you install this. I like to rsdlite or fastboot to complete stock personally, but not strictly necessary. Safestrap backups are not compatible with cwm. I can't fully guarantee this bootstrap works. I use a milestone version(since I have the XT860).
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So, to understand, I could flash minimoto over stock, but not use safestrap later? I had the idea to have flashed minimoto over stock and then a safestrap with other minimoto, if one fails I can go over the other and make changes accordingly. Bad or good idea?

XDADoog said:
So, to understand, I could flash minimoto over stock, but not use safestrap later? I had the idea to have flashed minimoto over stock and then a safestrap with other minimoto, if one fails I can go over the other and make changes accordingly. Bad or good idea?
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Once you've flashed minimoto to stock you can remove the bootstrap and reinstall safestrap, yes. It seems redundant to have 2 versions of the same rom flashed to the phone, seems like less effort to just make sure to backup before making any changes, but it's your phone to do with as you will.
I don't use safestrap because I don't care about being able to reflash my phone. I hate this thing and am just waiting for it to die so I can replace it.
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:cyclops::cyclops: is not such a bad phone, if it just had more ram it would be fine. But 512Mb is just not enough (never ever )

XDADoog said:
:cyclops::cyclops: is not such a bad phone, if it just had more ram it would be fine. But 512Mb is just not enough (never ever )
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And it's stuck on gb. I can't listen to music and have my running app open. One of them will close due to lack of ram. Keyboard sucks ass on mine. Button presses only register half the time. Same for the capacitive keys. Apps often take up to 10 seconds to Open(probably because it needs to clear ram)
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So, just to be sure (sorry for the delay, on monday I am officially on vacation so I was doing all the make up work that I had to do :fingers-crossed: )
I can flash minimoto over stock
Then install safe trap and install minimoto on the rom slot
Why?
Because I like minimoto and I have found that for this phone and my lifestyle it fits really well, the problem is that on safestrap mode I believe the lag is because he's reading some stuff from the sdcard and the internal memory (both I think and believe (I could be wrong, I am just an advanced user ) are slower than the reserved space for the rom itself), so I will start from scratch again install only the programs I really need on the phone rom and leave the safestrap rom for those scenarios where the phone is stuck on something.
Is that all virtually correct and possible, right?

XDADoog said:
So, just to be sure (sorry for the delay, on monday I am officially on vacation so I was doing all the make up work that I had to do :fingers-crossed: )
I can flash minimoto over stock
Then install safe trap and install minimoto on the rom slot
Why?
Because I like minimoto and I have found that for this phone and my lifestyle it fits really well, the problem is that on safestrap mode I believe the lag is because he's reading some stuff from the sdcard and the internal memory (both I think and believe (I could be wrong, I am just an advanced user ) are slower than the reserved space for the rom itself), so I will start from scratch again install only the programs I really need on the phone rom and leave the safestrap rom for those scenarios where the phone is stuck on something.
Is that all virtually correct and possible, right?
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I get lag using it on stock rom too. You may find some improvement by flashing it over stock. Safestrap mounts an image file as a loop device, which I have heard is slower, although I couldn't confirm that through googling. Android seems to start to lag over time, I find flashing fresh often gives improvements, then it slows down again, then flash again etc
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