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I just bought my Nexus 4 not long ago. I am really impressed by how this phone is designed and how it functions despite of the flaws it has. It came shipping with the latest Android 4.2.2(maybe not anymore).
Then i recalled Google's policy about phones only having 18 months of Android Support(something like that). Anything more than that, either rely on this forum for newer versions of Android or get a new phone.
Then with Samsung Galaxy S4 and HTC One releasing their own Google Edition types. I was just wondering did Google ditch their Nexus fans for these alternatives.
I mean....Nexus 4 is nearly an 8 months old device. Only 10 more months to go and who knows whether this device can live till the next Google I/O for its next major upgrade of Android. Maybe Google foresaw this coming and hence decided to release Galaxy S4 and One's Google Edition?
What do you guys think?
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They're Google editions not nexus and they're what people have been requesting for years.
Just sick that Samsung leak 4.3 before we have it, that stinks
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How I feel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2340879
CalamitySir said:
I just bought my Nexus 4 not long ago. I am really impressed by how this phone is designed and how it functions despite of the flaws it has. It came shipping with the latest Android 4.2.2(maybe not anymore).
Then i recalled Google's policy about phones only having 18 months of Android Support(something like that). Anything more than that, either rely on this forum for newer versions of Android or get a new phone.
Then with Samsung Galaxy S4 and HTC One releasing their own Google Edition types. I was just wondering did Google ditch their Nexus fans for these alternatives.
I mean....Nexus 4 is nearly an 8 months old device. Only 10 more months to go and who knows whether this device can live till the next Google I/O for its next major upgrade of Android. Maybe Google foresaw this coming and hence decided to release Galaxy S4 and One's Google Edition?
What do you guys think?
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Google has said they won't stop Nexus program. This GE program is still OEM dependent. The upgrades will come from OEM and not Google.
Also these devices won't be part of AOSP like Nexus devices are.
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How I feel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2340879
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OMG! I am so sorry I didn't see your thread and I opened a new one. But we have the same idea/thinking. And you are really right they are junks. I am just wondering how Google is going to repay us Nexus fans looking at how badly timed their I/O as it usually happens around the middle of the year. And this device is going to be so called "expired" by next year April.
Is Nexus 4 going to only have 4.3(upcoming) as its latest version looking at how it is only a minor upgrade compared to the previous nexus devices.
What I really hope is that Google can launch 5.0(maybe) before Nexus 4 go into retirement although I know that we still have this community to count on for future Android upgrades. If they don't release it by then, I am really going to be having doubts about their treatment to us Nexus fans.
atulalvenkar said:
Google has said they won't stop Nexus program. This GE program is still OEM dependent. The upgrades will come from OEM and not Google.
Also these devices won't be part of AOSP like Nexus devices are.
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OK I didn't read up on that part. Let's just hope those OEM continue to support their own skinned Android while leaving these behind.
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CalamitySir said:
And you are really right they are junks. I am just wondering how Google is going to repay us Nexus fans looking at how badly timed their I/O as it usually happens around the middle of the year.
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Repay you for what? How was Google I/O badly timed? It is around the same time every year.
My GSM Galaxy Nexus is beyond its 18-month update window so if it gets 4.3, then Google may continue support beyond that window.
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The devices will be buildable in aosp for a good while, so don't be worried. A quad core phone with 2gb ram isn't losing support any time soon. Especially a nexus. My crespo has 4.2, and it shipped with GB..... Think of it like that.
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rubiconjp said:
My GSM Galaxy Nexus is beyond its 18-month update window so if it gets 4.3, then Google may continue support beyond that window.
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From a technical point of view it will get 4.3 and KLP, the hardware is powerful enough if it can handle 4.2.2.
On the other side there is of course the $$$ for support of such old devices...
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Repay you for what? How was Google I/O badly timed? It is around the same time every year.
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I know its around the same time every year but Nexus 4 had a bad release date looking that this year I/O didn't release any new Android and the next one we are getting is only 4.3.
If we traced it forward, the next I/O should be around June next year which is already over the date of Google Support. Which means we won't be getting the next version after 4.3 officially but ofc we can still rely on our Devs here for their future builds(big thanks to them!!)
Unless, they are going to have their next major upgrade officially before next year I/O. If not they are just betraying us by telling us to get a new Nexus Device and only upgrading it once and its a minor one too(mainly under the hood stuffs).
Which leads me to think they are using better phones with better sales(fact) to continue their line of Android upgrades because it was badly timed. OK maybe partially due to the hurricane last year and they had to pull it back.
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I know its around the same time every year but Nexus 4 had a bad release date looking that this year I/O didn't release any new Android and the next one we are getting is only 4.3.
If we traced it forward, the next I/O should be around June next year which is already over the date of Google Support. Which means we won't be getting the next version after 4.3 officially but ofc we can still rely on our Devs here for their future builds(big thanks to them!!)
Unless, they are going to have their next major upgrade officially before next year I/O. If not they are just betraying us by telling us to get a new Nexus Device and only upgrading it once and its a minor one too(mainly under the hood stuffs).
Which leads me to think they are using better phones with better sales(fact) to continue their line of Android upgrades because it was badly timed. OK maybe partially due to the hurricane last year and they had to pull it back.
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No offense mate, but this is just a pile of bullsh*t.
Literally nothing of the above makes any sense.
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No idea what the OP means by "over the date of Google Support"...
There was some time ago a move by Google to convince OEMs (!) to support their phones 18months after release, this was of course nothing binding, but more like a "recommendation" by Google.
Google never said there is a time-frame for Nexus support, until the phones hardware can support a new Release, there will be AOSP support for it.
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No idea what the OP means by "over the date of Google Support"...
There was some time ago a move by Google to convince OEMs (!) to support their phones 18months after release, this was of course nothing binding, but more like a "recommendation" by Google.
Google never said there is a time-frame for Nexus support, until the phones hardware can support a new Release, there will be AOSP support for it.
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Ya I'm not quite sure where the OP is getting his/ her info from either..
Google will continue to support the Nexus line so long as the hardware is compatible with the software..
Google did I/0 right this year as its a developer conference and shouldn't be used for new products IMHO..
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No idea what the OP means by "over the date of Google Support"...
There was some time ago a move by Google to convince OEMs (!) to support their phones 18months after release, this was of course nothing binding, but more like a "recommendation" by Google.
Google never said there is a time-frame for Nexus support, until the phones hardware can support a new Release, there will be AOSP support for it.
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This. The op is confused.
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I know its around the same time every year but Nexus 4 had a bad release date looking that this year I/O didn't release any new Android and the next one we are getting is only 4.3.
If we traced it forward, the next I/O should be around June next year which is already over the date of Google Support. Which means we won't be getting the next version after 4.3 officially but ofc we can still rely on our Devs here for their future builds(big thanks to them!!)
Unless, they are going to have their next major upgrade officially before next year I/O. If not they are just betraying us by telling us to get a new Nexus Device and only upgrading it once and its a minor one too(mainly under the hood stuffs).
Which leads me to think they are using better phones with better sales(fact) to continue their line of Android upgrades because it was badly timed. OK maybe partially due to the hurricane last year and they had to pull it back.
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and you ideas are based on your imagination/creativity?
i/o is not when they release new nexus phones, nor is it a set date for android releases.
Is it my imagination, or has the Nexus 7 gone the way of most Android devices? The development cycle is so tight that anything over a few months old gets cut loose and never sees another update. This seems like a rampant issue. My Galaxy Tab 10.1 will probably never see another update either, and definitely will never see JB. Tablets seem worse than phones too. Someone correct me if I'm way off base here. I completely understand how this has happened, but I don't have to like it. And I wonder how consumers can influence this situation. What is worse, the Nexus 7 has not been superseded by another product yet, and still the updates seem to have completely stopped. I must say that Apple is somewhat better about supporting it's hardware longer too.
What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
Pirateghost said:
What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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Past history with non-nexus devices!! LOL
What are you going on about? Nexus devices get updates faster than any other devices....and longer support than other devices.
What color are the clouds in your world?
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mntbighker said:
Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
In addition, just because bugs are identified and there may be a rumored fix with it, many good devs will continue to monitor their fix, test it, and see how it does; ensuring that the fix does not create a more bugs (in quantity and severity) than there were in a previous build.
Patience is a virtue. There's a reason why this saying is an aphorism.
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What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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kj2112 said:
What color are the clouds in your world?
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Apparently pretty dark :crying:
mntbighker said:
Apparently pretty dark :crying:
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Just....wow! Lol
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TheAltruistic said:
The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
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I think the Nexus "8" will be out by then and the 7 will be deemed too anemic to run the newer software. As I said, it was just an observation of a phenomenon with the hardware development cycle we have with Android. And yes, the situation is way worse with non-Nexus devices. My Sprint HTC One is pretty buggy and the phones generally seem to all have bugs that may eventually get fixed. But more often than not they just move on to the next big thing and you just have to live with the bugs until you replace the phone and get a whole new list of bugs. You can ROM the phone and sacrifice features along with different bugs of course. Consumer demand has shaped things such that there are never resources to really get existing devices locked down and bug free. There is no incentive for developers to work on existing devices, but always to develop for the next thing going out the door. Apparently there is a known bug in my HTC One that has to do with an incorrectly located file directory causing horrible battery issues. Weeks or months go by with no OTA to fix it.
Google wants every OEM to support devices for at least 18 months, so you can bet that nexus devices will get at least that and probably longer. I'm about 99% sure that the Nexus 7 will get key lime pie at least.
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awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.
I definitely think you should sell your n7 and get one of those awesome no name tabs everyone loves!! I'm sure they will be updated frequently and quickly!! I think some already have key lime pie!!
Just my advice.
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:facepalm: :banghead:
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On top of there being nothing new in the world of android for the N7 to be updated to, I'm also curious on what "bugs" the op thinks need fixed?
I'm running latest rasbean on my phone and stock 4.2.2 on the 7 and have literally no bugs on either. Completely functional and stable (neither device has even been rebooted in almost 3 weeks).
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There are bugs, fixes and new features in almost every release: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
Look at the release dates to determine if releases are frequent enough.
Sometimes preventing an OTA update to a Nexus 7 device can be the challenge. Lol!
(still running 4.1.2 on my N7)
I got a Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8 RT Surface so I can experience obsolescence instead of updates. LOL
My two Nexus 7, one Grouper and one Tilapia, will be merrily updated to every new version of Android. I can't wait for more *fragmentation* with the next Android release.
Sorry gotta go run with the low information crowd, there is a protest nearby. ...
Thread is silly. Sorry OP.
Nexus One - Released with 2.1, EOL with 2.3.6 (2010 - 2011)
Nexus S - Released with 2.3, EOL with 4.1 (2010 - 2012)
Galaxy Nexus - Released with 4.0, still supported
Nexus 4 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Nexus 7 - Released with 4.1, still supported
Nexus 10 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Every device has made it through a year's worth at the very least, and that's starting with the Nexus One. At the time when the Nexus One was released, phone hardware was changing almost faster than it is now, and it still got quite a run of updates.
Please do some research before whining. The Nexus 7 hasn't seen an update as of now because there's no update to see.
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awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.
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I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
mntbighker said:
I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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Bad idea if current information is anything to go by. Google doesn't really seem to be doing altogether much more to support these two devices than it does for most-- it'll send the builds of Android as appropriate to the OEMs but it'll be up to them to actually tune everything.
mntbighker said:
I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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Your problem there is. Verizon.
No. The Google edition phones are not nexus devices.. At all.
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Your problem there is. Verizon.
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Well, now I have done a complete 180. I have a Sprint HTC One from Ting.com. My bill is a fourth what it was with Verizon or AT&T and I rely mostly on WiFi/VOIP service. Too bad the HTC One is so terrible at holding onto a WiFi signal. I may have to switch back to a Samsung device if Sprint can't resolve this. Ting does support the Galaxy Nexus, among other Samsung phones.
Around here Verizon does have the best coverage BY FAR though.
While most Android devices are still waiting on the update to*Android 4.4.2 KitKat, Google is apparently testing 4.4.3 already, under the build number KTU72B. This information comes courtesy of renowned developer LlabTooFeR, but there is no further info on what new features the update is likely to bring.
One of the bug fixes gets mentioned, though - LlabTooFeR writes that "probably it will fix known camera bug." Said issue could very well refer to the problem in*Nexus 5*handset. Users observed a pretty significant increase*in CPU usage when the camera application is operational, which puts unwarranted stress on the system, and its battery endurance.*Google quickly promised a fix for the Nexus 5 camera bug, allegedly coming with the next Android update, so that could be it.*
There are no details yet on eventual extra enhancements and fixes that the Android 4.4.3 KitKat update will bring to devices in general. Perhaps we will know as soon as the next few weeks, as we doubt Google will wait for the*I/O conference in June*to release a fix for the camera issue in Nexus 5.
source:*@LlabTooFeR*(Twitter)
Real Source
http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-...KTU72B-update-allegedly-under-testing_id54262
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I hope they fix the Exchange Server always syncing bug
Oh snap, it means I have to revert my phone back to 4.4.2 stock again. So soon after the 4.4.2 update, too. At the very least I hope it's a worthy update.
hopefully there will be HDR+ camera for Nexus 4 like Nexus 5. ART optimization will be wonderful thing (also for me myself).
Cross Finger
will_chrome said:
hopefully there will be HDR+ camera for Nexus 4 like Nexus 5. ART optimization will be wonderful thing (also for me myself).
Cross Finger
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I think that's a hardware feature, not software (I mean HDR+), right?
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I think that's a hardware feature, not software (I mean HDR+), right?
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yes pardon me. my fault. well in that case HDR+ look alike perhaps.
https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=356149#c3 said:
03-25 13:18:10.689 I/DEBUG ( 179): Build fingerprint: 'google/hammerhead/hammerhead:4.4.3/KTU83/1086971:userdebug/dev-keys'
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U83 is march 24th (if I counted correctly)
Like the fingerprint states: 4.4.3 is definitely a thing in testing.
What it doesnt say is when/who will get it.
Fingerprints on chromium are concrete evidence that something does definitely exist, but not that we'll actually get it.
(chromium devs get access to builds that never get released)
TheManii said:
U83 is march 24th (if I counted correctly)
Like the fingerprint states: 4.4.3 is definitely a thing in testing.
What it doesnt say is when/who will get it.
Fingerprints on chromium are concrete evidence that something does definitely exist, but not that we'll actually get it.
(chromium devs get access to builds that never get released)
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Going a bit off topic !! Do you still have access to the .tot files from lg b2b servers since they updated their security ?? I think no one has updated the .tot files for mako or hammerhead after initial 4.4 ( I guess no .tot leaked for 4.4 mako at all )
I do not have files, only filenames.
I can tell you that mako has simply not received any new ones since 4.3 and I would not be surprised if it doesn't receive any more.
The thread is currently up to date with the known public ones for hammerhead, excepting that we do not have every variation of the latest one (KOT49H) (16/32gb D820/821)
Here is a ss
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Breaking News!!!
Beginning June 2, the Nexus 4 received a software update to Android 4.4.3/ Build version KTU84L.
Source: https://t-mobile.jive-mobile.com/#jive-document?content=/api/core/v2/documents/5034
http://mobilesyrup.com/2014/06/02/android-4-4-3-beginning-its-nexus-rollout-today/
occam (KTU84L): https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#occamktu84l
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Below is a list of some of the fixes that will be included in the update:
•Frequent data connection dropout fix
•mm-qcamera-daemon crash and optimization fixes
•Camera focus in regular and HDR modes fixes
•Power Manager display wakelock fix
•Multiple Bluetooth fixes
•Fix for a random reboot
•App shortcuts sometimes got removed from launcher after
update
•USB debugging security fix
•App shortcuts security fix
•Wi-Fi auto-connect fix
•Other camera fixes
•MMS, Email/Exchange, Calendar, People/Dialer/Contacts, DSP,
IPv6, VPN fixes
•Stuck in activation screen fix
•Missed call LED fix
•Subtitle fixes
•Data usage graph fix
•Internet telephony fix
•FCC compliance fix
•Miscellaneous fixes
Even the network bar icon
Are you excited about any of these upcoming fixes?
Source: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...-here-is-what-you-should-expect-to-see-fixed/
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UPDATE
Google tipped to have massively improved Android camera app intesting
The upcoming release of the Android camera app will feature refreshed user interface. Today’s increasingly popular background-blurring, portrait-friendly effect will be on board too, joined by improved panorama and Photo Sphere modes.
Support for third party filters is also said to be present.
Google has also reportedly resolved the photo framing issues of the stock Android camera app. The upcoming update will allow users to capture photos with no-crop viewfinder, which will allow them to see exactly what the final result will be.
Read more: http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/01/google-new-android-camera-app/
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http://support.sprint.com/support/a...AndUpdateTheSoftwareVersionOnYourGoogleNexus5
Fixes, not features. But yes, we do need these fixes ha
All i need is Autofocus fix....god damn AOSP Camera, can't change focus mode to Auto and Focus length to Infinite
Wow they adressed like 40 bug reports out of the 22000 they have on the pubilc bug tracker alone.
And in Android 4.5 they add fancy features for marketing adding 500 new bugs!
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Wow they adressed like 40 bug reports out of the 22000 they have on the pubilc bug tracker alone.
And in Android 4.5 they add fancy features for marketing adding 500 new bugs!
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Feel free to adopt one of the more "user friendly" OS's.
Looking forward to trying this out.
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I wonder if the FCC compliance fix is to kill LTE in the N4 again.
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I wonder if the FCC compliance fix is to kill LTE in the N4 again.
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Google has other things to do than to focus on a pesky issue. Only a small number of users who know how or willing to tweak their system just to gain LTE.
I hope we'll get some further development of ART!
4.4.3 are just bug fixes for Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 (2013). source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...to-a-Nexus-5-or-Nexus-7-2013-near-you_id54536
But knowing our devs, it'll probably take less than a week after the code release before all our custom ROMs will be updated using the latest source.
We should be more excited for 4.5 somewhere in June-July along with the Nexus 8.
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4.4.3 are just bug fixes for Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 (2013). source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...to-a-Nexus-5-or-Nexus-7-2013-near-you_id54536
But knowing our devs, it'll probably take less than a week after the code release before all our custom ROMs will be updated using the latest source.
We should be more excited for 4.5 somewhere in June-July along with the Nexus 8.
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Of course if we will get it for our N4
I hope the camera bug when using snapchat is gone..
uchihakurtz said:
4.4.3 are just bug fixes for Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 (2013). source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...to-a-Nexus-5-or-Nexus-7-2013-near-you_id54536
But knowing our devs, it'll probably take less than a week after the code release before all our custom ROMs will be updated using the latest source.
We should be more excited for 4.5 somewhere in June-July along with the Nexus 8.
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Nexus 4 will be in the eol "18month period" by next android version
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Nexus 4 will be in the eol "18month period" by next android version
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If we look at the releases order, nexus 7 2012 should be the nexus that loses the support first. But they should increase the time, just look at S2 how many updates has got and it';s not a nexus.
Hope it does come to the N4, as I'm having major BT issues at the moment. Surely the 18months should start at end of production as well?
So no fix for headset microphone volume issues? I know they may ignore us, but considering Nexus 5 having the very same issue, it seems a little bit strange...
I was just stating that it would probably be the excuse from Google. I sure as hell hope our phone will get the update as well. Mine is not even a year old, still got 6months warranty
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Nexus 4 will be in the eol "18month period" by next android version
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Last time they made some excuse regarding Ti/OMAP processor. This time being a snapdragon thats also used in Nexus 7, I don't see any reason for non release of update. We should all in fact assume we will get the official update. Google need to look at Apple's support of old devices like iPhone 4 and get a damn clue.
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Last time they made some excuse regarding Ti/OMAP processor. This time being a snapdragon thats also used in Nexus 7, I don't see any reason for non release of update. We should all in fact assume we will get the official update. Google need to look at Apple's support of old devices like iPhone 4 and get a damn clue.
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Yeah, they should gimp the update, not include new features, and make the phone laggy. That's totally what Google should do.
No thanks. I'd rather get no update(or just get unofficial updates via ROMs) than get an official update that bogs the phone down.
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Yeah, now the difference it's just a higher frequencies to make a equality between the higher resolutions and a little bit faster memory.We should definetly lose the support at the same time with nexus 7 2013 which has the same processor on a higher resolution which means worse performance in games especially. They have no excuse now ....
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Last time they made some excuse regarding Ti/OMAP processor. This time being a snapdragon thats also used in Nexus 7, I don't see any reason for non release of update.
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That is a clocked down Snapdragon 600. I suspected the 18 months period might have been the reason to go with this one internally instead of the S4 Pro.
Worst case is still that they keep the ancient linux because Qualcomm's mess is so huge they don't have a chance to support a newer kernel. But it might happen because the S4 Pro is in so many devices.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...osp-with-every-modification-since-kitkat-4-4/
OMG yes!
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Yeaah babbyy! I guess the everyday updates of Google Apps is not just a coincidence?
Well, let's hope for the best!
So does the time of release of an update correlate to posting a changelog to AOSP? Like in the past how long has passed between changelog and update hitting 100% of phones? I am still assuming they are using IO to announce the release for some reason.
vin4yak said:
Yeaah babbyy! I guess the everyday updates of Google Apps is not just a coincidence?
Well, let's hope for the best!
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Probably is coincidence since they've been updating each Google app multiple times for the past few weeks. Remember there's a tablet going to be released soon so that probably is why we've had so many app updates too.
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This looks interesting...
FuMMoD said:
Probably is coincidence since they've been updating each Google app multiple times for the past few weeks. Remember there's a tablet going to be released soon so that probably is why we've had so many app updates too.
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You had to spoil the party, didn't you? (pun intended)
Well, you could be right here though! All we can do is wait :fingers-crossed:
I is excite.
Finally, never been on stock that long. Just see press 50 times a day software update.
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So does the time of release of an update correlate to posting a changelog to AOSP? Like in the past how long has passed between changelog and update hitting 100% of phones? I am still assuming they are using IO to announce the release for some reason.
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I think this KitKat update is coming before Google I/O conference in June. Remember, back in March, Android 4.4.3 was first rumored for mid-April. U.S carrier Sprint even jumped the gun and posted 4.4.3 OTA update promise "now" in mid-April, then sheepishly had to remove it from their public pages a week later. Of course we are now well into the month of May... Not sure why the delay, but I still think it's coming before I/O.
But I think 4.4.3 is minor bug squasher KitKat update that will come before the NEXT Android release with the Nexus 8 tablet announcement at the I/O conference in LATE June (June 25 - 26). Remember product "announcement" does not mean "release". Nexus 8 tablet and next version of Android will be announced at END of June, then will probably be released sometime in July.
Whatever is announced at end of June I/O will NOT show up before July. I just can't see this 4.4.3 waiting until JULY.
It's getting close to I/O ,the 4.4.3 ota is still not released....
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AidenLee1228 said:
It's getting close to I/O ,the 4.4.3 ota is still not released....
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Yes, but 4.4.3 will still probably come before then (I/O is June 25) -- because whatever is ANNOUNCED at I/O will not be RELEASED until July. We are now in the first week of May. 4.4.3 could still be released next week as bug squasher update.
Then in late June at I/O, Nexus 8 tablet and next version of Android ANNOUNCED. Then in July Nexus 8 tablet ships with NEW version of Android, the one AFTER 4.4.3.
I just can't see Google waiting TWO MORE MONTHS to release a basic bug fix update. So far from the changelog, that's all 4.4.3 is. Surely with Nexus 8 tablet they will want at least a couple new features as selling points.
Also U.S. Sprint wouldn't have posted the 4.4.3 announcement page back in mid-April if the release wasn't imminent. Sure they jumped the gun, but they were apparently led to believe it was coming then. I still think it's coming before May is over, due to flurry of Google app updates.
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So does the time of release of an update correlate to posting a changelog to AOSP?
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No, because Google never posted a changelog to AOSP before. While it is exciting, the changelog was posted 3 weeks ago and hardly means anything is imminent. Plus, the changelog is very flawed in that it shows all changes since 4.4 not the last release. It seems the posting to AOSP was an accident I would imagine.
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It's getting close to I/O ,the 4.4.3 ota is still not released....
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You say
As post here. If you dig into the code as someone else did, sheds some light on possible future phone and tablets.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...ed-molly-appears-android-4-4-3-changelog.html
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Duffmantp said:
As post here. If you dig into the code as someone else did, sheds some light on possible future phone and tablets.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...ed-molly-appears-android-4-4-3-changelog.html
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Not what I wanted to post. I want to delete that post.
So the build that will supposedly be the release build was built on March 11? Dayum Google! 9 weeks of testing and counting for a freaking point release? You need to hire more QA people Google. What, are like 2 dudes responsible for testing the entire OS? The f...
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Also U.S. Sprint wouldn't have posted the 4.4.3 announcement page back in mid-April if the release wasn't imminent. Sure they jumped the gun, but they were apparently led to believe it was coming then. I still think it's coming before May is over, due to flurry of Google app updates.
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When has sprint ever released anything on time or been a reliable source??
I'm sure most of us remember when the galaxy s3 came out waaayyy before their LTE/4g was ready. Just throwing that out there.
As for 4.4.3. All we can do is wait. Because it'll be dropped when we stop caring. Haha.
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travisd4est said:
When has sprint ever released anything on time or been a reliable source??
I'm sure most of us remember when the galaxy s3 came out waaayyy before their LTE/4g was ready. Just throwing that out there.
As for 4.4.3. All we can do is wait. Because it'll be dropped when we stop caring. Haha.
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Oh I don't know. It's not like Sprint RF engineers and testers have Spark enabled Nexus 5 running around for months which is explicitly included in the 4.4.3 update..
Fact is Google have to coordinate the rollout of 4.4.3 with their partners (carriers) to make sure the phone doesn't screw up anyones network. Google told the carriers (Sprint) that their update was ready and they're about the push it.
Sprint is notified and have confirmed that the update that is relevant for them (activation of band 26 / 41) is completed so they put the change log up. Google or one of the partners finds a problem and halts the rollout before it begin.
So now we all wait.
Did Google just take down the 4.4.3 changelog page? What the hell does that mean?
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CM-PRo said:
Did Google just take down the 4.4.3 changelog page? What the hell does that mean?
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Yup I get the error 404