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For those worried about lack of storage (USB-OTG discussion thread)

They make these things called Micro USB to USB adapters. As long it has Host support (which devs can most certainly add) you are all set.
So stop worrying and buy the 8GB model
EDIT: Once you get your Nexus, please post a review of YOUR USB-OTG setup so that we can have a quick reference to know which products work and which don't.
Post in the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766260
Mod edit: this thread should be used for all discussion relating to USB-OTG

Censura_Umbra said:
They make these things called Micro USB to USB adapters. As long it has Host support (which devs can most certainly add) you are all set.
So stop worrying and buy the 8GB model
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Nah. I'll make do with the tablet I have until somebody wants to sell me the tablet I want. I'm hoping Asus will still sell their 7" tablet instead of throwing all that business to Google.

I know someone who has a massive music collection - almost 500GB in size - and, whilst he likes the looks of tablets, he cannot find one that would allow him to comfortably store even a fraction of his music on. If he were to buy a Micro-USB to USB adapter, could he then connect his hard-drive into the Nexus 7 (or any other Android device for that matter) and listen to his music off there?
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Paten said:
Nah. I'll make do with the tablet I have until somebody wants to sell me the tablet I want. I'm hoping Asus will still sell their 7" tablet instead of throwing all that business to Google.
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Which tablet do you presently have?

Brad387 said:
Which tablet do you presently have?
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An original 7" Galaxy Tab.

Being able to hook up an external HDD is great, but not the most practical thing to do on the go. Seems kind of silly to have to take out a hard drive on a short bus/train ride or something, but I suppose it's better than nothing.
Anyone else thought of some cool ways to maximize storage space?

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Being able to hook up an external HDD is great, but not the most practical thing to do on the go. Seems kind of silly to have to take out a hard drive on a short bus/train ride or something, but I suppose it's better than nothing.
Anyone else thought of some cool ways to maximize storage space?
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1) There is the cloud. 20,000 songs is no laughing matter. And on a short bus ride is ample.
2) You can store a few of your favorite albums ON the tablet. For emergency, no data use.
3) Use the Storage method while at home or during long trips.

You can easily expand with micro USB sticks which you can't even notice plus they cheaper and you get more storage
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Because that worked out so well for the Kindle Fire. Oh wait, it didn't, because the USB port is 3.3V and needs an external power source for host mode.
I'm going to wait and see if the Nexus 7 has proper USB OTG support before I even think about getting one.

Censura_Umbra said:
1) There is the cloud. 20,000 songs is no laughing matter. And on a short bus ride is ample.
2) You can store a few of your favorite albums ON the tablet. For emergency, no data use.
3) Use the Storage method while at home or during long trips.
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did you really just say one should use an extern hdd for storage?!
first we would need to check the power level and then if it really would work who in the right mind would carry around a hdd all the time
the nexus 7 will fit in my jacket pocket most male people will not carry around a purse.
if i am at home me and most people will use a network drive.
i don't think i will need more than 16gb but we don't need to defend googles poor decission to not offer more space we are no apple fan boys and storage is mad cheap.

Not a huge concern for me...just a minor inconvenience. I think I'll opt for 16GB model for only $50 more.

tzarp990 said:
You can easily expand with micro USB sticks which you can't even notice plus they cheaper and you get more storage
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do you have a link for a micro USB stick?

Doesn't the micro USB operating in host mode suck down the battery (assuming that it has the appropriate power coming in...many that support this don't!)
As far as a portable hdd being too big, use a flash drive. I've seen 32 gb ones for around $30, with 64 gb not being too much higher. Of course, that only works if you don't have to have a powered hub.

Why is it so hard for Google to put in an SD Card slot?
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Question about this guys. So, assuming I load a few movies on a USB drive, I should be able to plug it into the tablet (via a micro USB-USB connector) and play the movies straight off the drive?
I only ask because I have been wanting this thing for a while, and loading 4-5 movies on it was going to be a huge plus, but 16GB is really cutting it close.
But if all I have to do is plug in a USB drive....I think I would be OK with that.

RowanOak said:
Doesn't the micro USB operating in host mode suck down the battery (assuming that it has the appropriate power coming in...many that support this don't!)
As far as a portable hdd being too big, use a flash drive. I've seen 32 gb ones for around $30, with 64 gb not being too much higher. Of course, that only works if you don't have to have a powered hub.
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yes, it uses power but considering its flash memory it isnt a crazy amount
funkyblue04 said:
Why is it so hard for Google to put in an SD Card slot?
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the price point and size, you cant get everything for $200, if you require an sd card get a galaxy tab 7 2, they charge 50 more for a dual core cpu and worse screen but include a sd card slot

funkyblue04 said:
Why is it so hard for Google to put in an SD Card slot?
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Not hard at all. They clearly don't want to.

Tab 2 is crap. I have a Tab 7.7 but still stuck on Honeycomb. Screen is most important to me and Tab 2 is crap. I want pure Google. Google refuse to put in sd slots because they think the cloud is so great. It's not. Right now I have 76gb of music and movies on my Tab.
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Nospin said:
Question about this guys. So, assuming I load a few movies on a USB drive, I should be able to plug it into the tablet (via a micro USB-USB connector) and play the movies straight off the drive?
I only ask because I have been wanting this thing for a while, and loading 4-5 movies on it was going to be a huge plus, but 16GB is really cutting it close.
But if all I have to do is plug in a USB drive....I think I would be OK with that.
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I think we're going to wait to hear from one of the guys that actually got their hands on one...I couldn't imagine why they would run the power (I think it's 5v instead of 3.3v, but don't quote me) to the micro-usb, but stranger things have happened. If they DIDN'T for some reason, then you'd be able to, but only with a powered USB hub, so it would be a little inconvenient to lug around.
I agree though. If I can hook in a flash drive without the extra power, then I'm good to go, and will be picking one up ASAP.

Brad387 said:
I know someone who has a massive music collection - almost 500GB in size - and, whilst he likes the looks of tablets, he cannot find one that would allow him to comfortably store even a fraction of his music on. If he were to buy a Micro-USB to USB adapter, could he then connect his hard-drive into the Nexus 7 (or any other Android device for that matter) and listen to his music off there?
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Which tablet do you presently have?
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who the hell needs that much music like over kill i put songs on my phone that i will listen to i highly doubt your friend listens to all 500gb's of music

funkyblue04 said:
Tab 2 is crap. I have a Tab 7.7 but still stuck on Honeycomb. Screen is most important to me and Tab 2 is crap. I want pure Google. Google refuse to put in sd slots because they think the cloud is so great. It's not. Right now I have 76gb of music and movies on my Tab.
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you get what you pay for its that simple, you my friend have a dilemma so chose your priorities (pure google or micro sd clot) and pick your poison. Google had a price point and they did what they had to do to stick to it, so yes while It may only be a $5 addition, google has small enough profit margins as it is considering the kindle fire is sold at a loss and this has much more expensive hardware. So, I wouldn't expect google to take more than a 5% loss on this tablet, this is a business after all

Nexus 7 and a Nikon D300

I know there has been plenty said about the Nexus 7 and using a USB OTG cable for extra storage but I thought I'd mention my success of hooking up my Nikon D300. I had ordered a USB OTG cable from ebay (r.ebay.com/zf1p7D) before my Nexus arrived. Tonight I plugged the three things together and as soon as I turned the camera on the gallery appeared, all ready for the photos to be imported.
Fantastic, basic photo processing on the go, still can't match Lightroom but I can take this solution with me :laugh:

Hmmm i wonder if my D3100 can do this Thanks for the heads up!

Nexcellent said:
Hmmm i wonder if my D3100 can do this Thanks for the heads up!
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I don't see why not, I did nothing to get my D300 to work apart from plugging everything together and turning it on. Your D3100 is newer than mine too.

Nexcellent said:
Hmmm i wonder if my D3100 can do this Thanks for the heads up!
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Tried it and my D3100 doesn't show up

WinDroidGuy said:
Tried it and my D3100 doesn't show up
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:crying:

Does USB OTG work on the nexus 7 without root?
EDIT: Just read up on this, so apparently Nexus 7 does not support USB OTG, but it will support USB Host. Does this mean I won't be able to plug in SD-Cards with the USB OTG cable but I will be able to connect keyboards, mouse, or even cameras like your Nikon?

lol604 said:
Does USB OTG work on the nexus 7 without root?
EDIT: Just read up on this, so apparently Nexus 7 does not support USB OTG, but it will support USB Host. Does this mean I won't be able to plug in SD-Cards with the USB OTG cable but I will be able to connect keyboards, mouse, or even cameras like your Nikon?
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You need to root for OTG support of flash drives
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WinDroidGuy said:
You need to root for OTG support of flash drives
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Would you need root to use it as USB HOST? I am planning on plugging in my camera using the cable to see if it would show up on my N7(haven't received N7 yet).
I ordered the following cable:
dx.com/p/micro-usb-on-the-go-host-otg-adapter-pair-50774?item=1

WinDroidGuy said:
Tried it and my D3100 doesn't show up
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Are you rooted? It would be awesome to be able to view my photos on this thing.
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I have a host cable on the way for my Canon T3i as well.

mentose457 said:
Are you rooted? It would be awesome to be able to view my photos on this thing.
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Yes, I am rooted
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gamerdad09 said:
Is your Nexus 7 rooted?
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I don't think you need root to use USB HOST. All you need is the adapter cable. Only if you want to use the N7 to open up storage devices, you will need to have root.

All that I've done getting the contents of my D300 in the gallery was done on a fresh out of the box Nexus 7. No rooting.

RBilsland said:
All that I've done getting the contents of my D300 in the gallery was done on a fresh out of the box Nexus 7. No rooting.
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You just plugged in the device and opened up gallery and your pictures were there?

WinDroidGuy said:
You just plugged in the device and opened up gallery and your pictures were there?
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OK this is what I was doing. My original idea of buying the USB OTG cable was for controlling the camera from the tablet. So last night I visited the play store and installed a free version of the application (search for Nikon in the store). Once I had cabled everything together and before I had started the application I turned the camera on. When I did the the Nexus sprang into life, opening the gallery. I thought it was something I knocked so I backed out from the gallery and turned the camera off to try again. I did it again and realized it wasn't me. At first a new folder for the cameras photos didn't appear but I did notice that the access light on the camera was flashing like crazy. Then after a few seconds a new folder appeared showing all my cameras photos ready to be imported. I thought it might have been something to do with the application I had installed so I uninstalled that and everything still worked.
Hope this helps.

Edit: my kids got ahold my nexus again.

EvilDeadFan said:
I have a host cable on the way for my Canon T3i as well.
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How'd that work? I have a Nexus 7 and a T2i i'd love to tether.

Does the DSLR Controller app work on Nikons?
I know it works for my canon. And it's awesome. You get all the controls on your nexus screen, and you can see basically what the output will be before taking a picture.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...yLDEsImV1LmNoYWluZmlyZS5kc2xyY29udHJvbGxlciJd

Haha damn, too bad my 5D cant do any of that. Full frame fun makes up for it though >.>
Just wondering, when you plugged in your D300, what mode was it set to? Theres usually a setting on the camera for what to do with USB (act as storage device or connect to printer). Might be why your D300 worked so easily while the other guy's D3100 didnt work at all.

I'm glad you bumped this thread. I finally got my otg cable and am happy/plesently surprised that my d3100 does work with my n7 tablet. I shoot in raw format so I use a special app to view the photos. The stock gallery app does show the camera and a download icon but because of the format it is unable to do it.
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How do you use a thumb drive/flash drive with a Nexus 7?

How exactly do you use a thumb drive/flash drive with a Nexus 7? I've seen people talking about using them to expand the memory of the Nexus 7, but the thumb drives I have all have USB ports for plugging into devices and thus won't fit into a Nexus 7.
Am I missing something? Sorry if I am being daft.

you need an otg cable like the one in picture here, that and a rooted n7 and stickmount
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30981079&postcount=3

jamisonhalliwell said:
How exactly do you use a thumb drive/flash drive with a Nexus 7? I've seen people talking about using them to expand the memory of the Nexus 7, but the thumb drives I have all have USB ports for plugging into devices and thus won't fit into a Nexus 7.
Am I missing something? Sorry if I am being daft.
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Two choices:
1) Read the forums. Difficulty rating: Easy
2) Push the USB drive in as hard as you can. Difficulty: Hard

This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475 tells you how to root your N7 and then you just need an otg cable which you can buy on eBay for pennies.

Troute said:
This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475 tells you how to root your N7
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Actually, there's the option to mount it without rooting: Nexus Media Importer.
Check the GooglePlay.
However it costs u couple bucks and it doesn't eliminate the cable .

tatuk said:
Actually, there's the option to mount it without rooting: Nexus Media Importer.
Check the GooglePlay.
However it costs u couple bucks and it doesn't eliminate the cable .
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Thank you, guys.
Tutak, that's great, because I don't want to root mine if I don't have to.

[Video] Galaxy Note 2 Connectivity demo. Get comfy, its looong!

Its here! The connectivity demo to end all connectivity demos - see what your Note 2 can do! Any questions feel free to ask
Make sure to use the time-stamped navigation links in the video description to get around.

Gear used in the video:
USB OTG cable
Externally powered USB hub (i-Rocks one)
Logitech K400 wireless USB keyboard/mouse combo
Xbox 360 for Windows controller
MHL adapter for Note 2
AllShare Cast Dongle
Datel Retro Wireless Controller - not available any longer as far as I can tell - keep an eye on Amazon and Ebay as it still appears there sometimes
Logitech "For Android" bluetooth keyboard
Logitech "For Android" bluetooth mouse (note that any HID profile bluetooth mouse should work)
Seagate GoFlex Satellite drive
Apps: N64oid, FPse, MX Player, Bubble UPnP, Wind Up Knight, USB/BT Joystick Centre
Beastwars bandcamp page - beastwars.bandcamp.com stream the whole album and purchase there with all proceeds going to the band!
Got to run now, but will add links to places to get some of the stuff a bit later on.

Thanks a lot, I really appreciate the time you put in to show off all these cool features. I'm still waiting on Verizon to release the Note 2 unfortunetly. When using the Allshare dongle does the multi-screen feature work. For example could you watch Netflix and browse the web, and if so is it smooth. Thanks again for the video.

Oh, not tried it to be honest! Can't believe that slipped my mind, I will test it later and let you know.

Can someone please sticky this

very good video mate, amazing phone when you think about it!

ratcom said:
very good video mate, amazing phone when you think about it!
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Thanks dude!
...and yes, pretty amazing what these smartphones will do these days!
Totally second this post being stickied

NZtechfreak said:
Oh, not tried it to be honest! Can't believe that slipped my mind, I will test it later and let you know.
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Thanks, and I'll third that sticky.

clemson91 said:
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate the time you put in to show off all these cool features. I'm still waiting on Verizon to release the Note 2 unfortunetly. When using the Allshare dongle does the multi-screen feature work. For example could you watch Netflix and browse the web, and if so is it smooth. Thanks again for the video.
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OK, tried it, but whenever you watch video it full-screens the video to the external display (it is still split screen on the device and you can interact with the other window, but I don't think that is what you were after?).
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Thanks, and I'll third that sticky.
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I think technically you would be seconding it, since I'm probably biased

is it possible to connect MHL adapter to USB hub (using a converter from 11pin microUSB to USB, if such thing does exists) so we can use HDTV mirroring and USB OTG simultaneously?

azhurvadal said:
is it possible to connect MHL adapter to USB hub (using a converter from 11pin microUSB to USB, if such thing does exists) so we can use HDTV mirroring and USB OTG simultaneously?
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No, it looks like the Smart Dock for the Note 2 will allow for both simultaneously though.

Best video I have seen all day
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NZtechfreak said:
OK, tried it, but whenever you watch video it full-screens the video to the external display (it is still split screen on the device and you can interact with the other window, but I don't think that is what you were after?).
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Oh that actually sounds pretty nice being able to stream video(hopefully Netflix) to the TV, and still browse on the phone. I was actually kinda hoping there would be a way to do exactly what you said it does. Thanks for trying that out, the days till they release it on Verizon are slowing down even more now.

clemson91 said:
Oh that actually sounds pretty nice being able to stream video(hopefully Netflix) to the TV, and still browse on the phone. I was actually kinda hoping there would be a way to do exactly what you said it does. Thanks for trying that out, the days till they release it on Verizon are slowing down even more now.
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OK, cool!
I thought you wanted kinda a picture in picture/split screen deal on the TV, but even better if this was what you were after.

qhinton said:
Best video I have seen all day
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Thanks! Makes it all worthwhile

Had some requests via PM for information on pairing with PS3 controllers using OTG cables instead of the method that requires a PC, so thought I would post a link to this for those people and others:

What ROM are you used??
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Princetan said:
What ROM are you used??
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Pure stock with Root.
Using Nova Launcher with dock icons from ADW WP7 theme.

Is there a specific otg usb cable for the Note 2, more specifically t889 ? I had been searching every scenario , 5 pin, t889, etc. and can't find any that specifically mention for the Note 2. Meanwhile, I read posts and comments about people connecting the wrong usb otg and bricking their phone. What are you using? Thanks~

lyinelriche said:
Is there a specific otg usb cable for the Note 2, more specifically t889 ? I had been searching every scenario , 5 pin, t889, etc. and can't find any that specifically mention for the Note 2. Meanwhile, I read posts and comments about people connecting the wrong usb otg and bricking their phone. What are you using? Thanks~
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No, no specific cable, any USB OTG cable should work fine. Never ever heard of anyone bricking a device using a USB OTG cable - do you have links for these posts? I have to wonder what those people were doing if their phones bricked...

OTG compatibility

I just tried the OTG cable (that was purchased for the Samsung Galaxy S3) works perfectly on my non rooted Galaxy Camera. No additional software required, it worked straight out of the box. It saw my usb stick and files all useable

apprentice said:
I just tried the OTG cable (that was purchased for the Samsung Galaxy S3) works perfectly on my non rooted Galaxy Camera. No additional software required, it worked straight out of the box. It saw my usb stick and files all useable
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Nice info mate.. thanks.
Now all we need is just "phone enable mod" and we are complete

Can you copy files to an USB stick that's formated in NTFS? That would be ideal when you are abroad and need to empty the camera. Probably you can copy to FAT32 but if you record long movies NTFS would be the better choice. Why I ask is because if you use NTFS on for example my nexus 7 it's only read on NTFS and not write compatible.
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For NTFS i use Paragon NTFS but you need root.
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You mean for the nexus 7? Why I'm asking is because of I'm thinking of getting a galaxy camera and want to know what I can use on it before I buy it. Probably I will root it if I get it.
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Yes I discovered it working fine today too. What I really want however is to be able to store photos from the camera straight into a memory stick hanging from the USB OTG. It's greyed out. Hmm.

sarajw said:
Yes I discovered it working fine today too. What I really want however is to be able to store photos from the camera straight into a memory stick hanging from the USB OTG. It's greyed out. Hmm.
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No that doesn't work as you say. I am wondering why you'd want to do this anyway. Surely you can either use a larger memory card inside or just transfer over to the OTG as and when using the file manager? Also I think there would be an additional risk in accidently unplugging your OTG whilst taking pictures with the greatest possibility of corrupting your card and worse, losing your photo's.

I think
I think the OTG opens possibilities to external hardware options, like flash, light etc