Does anyone know how many units Google expects to receive in the near term and when they expect to receive them? I assume this is not like an iPhone when Apple says it will build 5M units, and probably builds 500K - 1M at launch. I am guessing that Google may not have built more than 10K - 20K (if that) for launch.
Is the problem we're experiencing that we don't know what to expect from Google? If Google is expecting a bunch (1,000's or 10,000's) every week for the next 10 -12 weeks, then we should all be okay. All I know is that LG makes about 100,000 phones/month. How many of these will be the Nexus 4, I have no idea. If a few hundred/month, we're probably in trouble. If 10K/month, we're probably okay.
Any info anyone has will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Maybe somebody could look into their quarterly statements or share holders conference call transcripts etc. It may reveal something....
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No wait, 6
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No wait, 6
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LG sent out stock to many retailers selling the Nexus 4 at the unsubsidized price; no one reported those retailers running out of stock. LG gets more money from the sale of those units. My guess is Google prefers to let the vast majority of phones be sold by other vendors since Google looses some money from the sale of the phones sold through Playstore. The rumor flying around yesterday was that the number of units that Google received for world wide launch day was 5,000, who knows what the actual number was but, given the fact that both the UK and US Playstores sold out within half an hour, Google didn't get a lot of units. I suspect many more phones were sent to vendors selling the unsubsidized units. Google's statement on Google+ indicates that it will be an unspecified number of "weeks" before Google has any more stock to sell through Playstore. Anyone wanting a unit soon is going to have no choice but to buy at the unsubsidized price, which probably makes both LG and Google happy since LG makes more money from those sales and it saves Google money since they aren't subsidizing the units. Given the first day posts about problems with unsubsidized units picked up from other vendors yesterday, maybe waiting to see how this phone performs and what mass build quality is like is a good thing.
dmkozak said:
Does anyone know how many units Google expects to receive in the near term and when they expect to receive them? I assume this is not like an iPhone when Apple says it will build 5M units, and probably builds 500K - 1M at launch. I am guessing that Google may not have built more than 10K - 20K (if that) for launch.
Is the problem we're experiencing that we don't know what to expect from Google? If Google is expecting a bunch (1,000's or 10,000's) every week for the next 10 -12 weeks, then we should all be okay. All I know is that LG makes about 100,000 phones/month. How many of these will be the Nexus 4, I have no idea. If a few hundred/month, we're probably in trouble. If 10K/month, we're probably okay.
Any info anyone has will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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How do you expect people here know unless they are from right place within Google corporate?
Does anyone know when the Chinese restaurant nearby my home will be closed at night?
It depends which region. Australia got 5, Europe got 15, the US got 15, and Canada got 7 Nexus 4.
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How do you expect people here know unless they are from right place within Google corporate?
Does anyone know when the Chinese restaurant nearby my home will be closed at night?
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I just Googled it for you. The Chinese place closes at 11, but if you're talking about the other Chinese place, that one is open 24 hours.
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I just Googled it for you. The Chinese place closes at 11, but if you're talking about the other Chinese place, that one is open 24 hours.
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I think he meant the one that's open all night. The one that closes at 11 doesn't do the Prawn Toast.
Google can handle an incredibly high server load but even the Nexus 4 and 10 release made their servers crawl. Felt it in the US when the UK order went live. That's just a testament to the incredible world-wide demand and factor in that Google Android has 70+% world marketshare.
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LG sent out stock to many retailers selling the Nexus 4 at the unsubsidized price; no one reported those retaile......
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Possibly, but why you quoting me ?
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It depends which region. Australia got 5, Europe got 15, the US got 15, and Canada got 7 Nexus 4.
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Love to know who your source is, because I know for a fact that Canada got 9
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Google can handle an incredibly high server load but even the Nexus 4 and 10 release made their servers crawl. Felt it in the US when the UK order went live. That's just a testament to the incredible world-wide demand and factor in that Google Android has 70+% world marketshare.
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servers can be powered up and down.
Google is so proud of their data centres that they offer virtual tours through them and yet they shall not be able to deal with the predictable load of a launch day?
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servers can be powered up and down.
Google is so proud of their data centres that they offer virtual tours through them and yet they shall not be able to deal with the predictable load of a launch day?
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Erm... if the load and demand was predictable, then they may not have been sold out in 20 minutes. I have no idea of the infrastructure behind Google's servers, but it's not their servers that couldn't cope on launch day... it's their play store app / service / whatever-you-want-to-call-it. Play web store is no Amazon, I expect the software running their web store is not on the same level as that running Amazon, as I assume Amazon processes way more purchases than the Google Play store.
Remember that these type of product launches are new to Google Play store, so it's expected that things will not go smoothly (ok, maybe not THIS BADLY, but you get my point).
As long as Google learns from this and build more capacity into the software running their web store, the launch was not an entire loss.
I only hope the price doesn't increase when they restock
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I only hope the price doesn't increase when they restock
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Of course not. The price will stay the same, possibly even drop if a 32Gb is released.
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Does anyone know when the Chinese restaurant nearby my home will be closed at night?
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I know you meant this as an insult. But, there are many more sources than Google for this information. People involved with the shipping, importation, Customs, delivery, warehousing, insuring, etc. of the units will have information.
Google has NDA against anything related to sales figure (that includes anything like UPS wouldn't be allows to disclose how many units they shipped). So any information you get is most likely speculations. And it is also absurd to assume 5k units.
Well according to the backorder emails. 3 weeks.
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So who has theories on why this release has been limited to such a few sporadic outlets? I mean the Play Store I get since that is Google but why no other major electronics retailers? I would expect at least Best Buy and Fry's to be selling from the brick&mortar front and Buy.com, New Egg and Amazon from the online. Instead we have a few obscure online shops like B&H and some office supply stores? Game Stop seems to be the only one that kind of fits but even that isn't the first place I would think of when looking for new tablet.
Just a thought as we wait...
It's become fairly obvious to me that Google doesn't know what in the world it's doing.
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It's become fairly obvious to me that Google doesn't know what in the world it's doing.
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Send it out to all retailers, but have retailers hold stock until launch day. Ship preorders 2 days before launch. Done.
Now the only thing that can unravel this is if some retailers don't hold their stock. That's what seems to be happening, not entirely Google's fault.
Google has no control whatsoever over the distribution since the Nexus 7 wasn't manufactured in-house (read: inside the Google premises) nor distributed by them. ASUS is the manufacturer and all Nexus 7 retail units were distributed through their own supply chain.
The Nexus Q, yes... It's a different story.
This is yet another instance where Apple make Google look like a bunch of rank amateurs. Honestly. I pre-ordered mine on June 29th from the Play Store, assuming that might amount to something!
Here's how google could have done this properly:
Announce that the launch date is a specific date. Let's say July 20th, not 2-3 weeks. Vagueness makes people speculate.
Next, Ship it out to UPS distribution centers and retailers and tell retailers to hold until the 20th. Part of the reason retailers are not following instructions is that anxious people keep bugging them and it's wasting warehouse space for an effectively undetermined amount of time, something that retailers also hate. On July 19th, give the go-ahead to UPS and retailers release on the 20th. Everybody is happy, because everything that was promised was delivered.
This shouldn't have been complicated at all. Pre-ordering with UPS and retailers isn't exactly new.
This should be in Q&A.. might get closed =P
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This should be in Q&A.. might get closed =P
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Why even make such a reply? If you have an issue, use the report button.
I do disagree with your point. His question was asked in an open discussion format. Q&A in many device forums on XDA is more meant for support based questions.
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This should be in Q&A.. might get closed =P
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This is not a question I need answered but a topic to provoke discussion on Google/Asus launch strategy. Thanks for your insightful post though
I don't know what's going in but I am a little annoyed that people who purchased from Gamestop and ebuyer are getting theirs and my play store pre order is still saying 1-2 weeks
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Here's how google could have done this properly:
Announce that the launch date is a specific date. Let's say July 20th, not 2-3 weeks. Vagueness makes people speculate.
Next, Ship it out to UPS distribution centers and retailers and tell retailers to hold until the 20th. Part of the reason retailers are not following instructions is that anxious people keep bugging them and it's wasting warehouse space for an effectively undetermined amount of time, something that retailers also hate. On July 19th, give the go-ahead to UPS and retailers release on the 20th. Everybody is happy, because everything that was promised was delivered.
This shouldn't have been complicated at all. Pre-ordering with UPS and retailers isn't exactly new.
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I total agree that this would have made the launch smoother and easier for consumers. However, Google has many highly paid marketing and logistic professionals at their disposal. Is it just that they keep dropping the ball on Nexus launches or is this by design to artificially generate additional hype and anticipation? I'm wondering if it's some type of marketing strategy itself.
..still can't it out..
It creates buzz..
Since apparently no one can read or use the search function.
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Google has no control whatsoever over the distribution since the Nexus 7 wasn't manufactured in-house (read: inside the Google premises) nor distributed by them. ASUS is the manufacturer and all Nexus 7 retail units were distributed through their own supply chain.
The Nexus Q, yes... It's a different story.
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TLDR; Blame ASUS.
Maybe it just took them longer to link the devices to peoples accounts since other than storage size that is the only difference between buying it in retail and getting it from Google Play.
And I'm sure a big list of people cancelling their orders later to get over the limits of Google's horrible store didn't help because they would then have to undo the linking on those devices.
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I don't know what's going in but I am a little annoyed that people who purchased from Gamestop and ebuyer are getting theirs and my play store pre order is still saying 1-2 weeks
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Yeah, quite frankly, I'm also annoyed. In fact, more than a little annoyed. Unless the Play store gives us some sort of reparation for getting screwed over like this, I'm never pre-ordering or buying from Play ever again. I think a free case is fair compensation for all of us who preordered from Play and got screwed over.
In fact, anyone have a link handy for Play's customer support/service email so I can write them a strongly worded letter? Their "Contact Us" page only has their phone number.
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Since apparently no one can read or use the search function.
TLDR; Blame ASUS.
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that's not a suffecient reason, all google had to do was have a street date implemented.
google is repeatedly terrible at hardware launches. how a multibillion dollar company is so bad at something when it's not their first time doing it is beyond me.
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Since apparently no one can read or use the search function.
TLDR; Blame ASUS.
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So what is your source that states that Google has no say what so ever in the marketing and release of the flagship product that bears there name? Please don't confuse giving your post no credibility with not being able to read.
Maybe you'd prefer the Apple model... people standing in line for a day or 2, running out on release day and no one able to activate their devices? This is Google's first outing for a branded tablet... give 'em a break. Trust me, it'll be worth the wait.
I preordered mine from GameStop and was told July 31 as the release date...extremely surprised to get it last Friday!
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This is normal for Asus.
Heck, the Prime has been out for over 6 months, still cant find one in a retail outlet.
Hopefully it's not as bad and they start getting them out.. Wouldn't hold my breath though.
People will probably have to check nowinstock.net for months to track one down.
Lets vote. What REALISTIC compensation do you expect from Google Play Store for their mis-handling of their Nexus 4 launch. Lets take a poll!
- Free Shipping
- Free $25 gift card from Google Play
- Free 50GB of Google Drive Storage
- Free Bumper Case
- White Nexus 4
Problems with launch:
1. No clear time to order. Many people missed their orders
2. 3 week delays for orders that were placed minutes into the store opening.
3. Crashing website, repeat orders.
4. Limbo-ness
They already waived the shipping fees for the people on 3 week delay.
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lets sign!
lets sign this!
http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Google_should_compensate_for_the_troubles_caused/?ctjYGdb
Depends what you define as mishandled. Suddenly backordered for 3 weeks? Or just a clumsy launch?
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lets sign this!
http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Google_should_compensate_for_the_troubles_caused/?ctjYGdb
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You're going to need a more effectively articulated argument for that to ever be taken seriously.
They refunded shipping thats all they really owe anyone if it doesn't arrive on time. We are not entitled to more.
Absolutely $25
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Nothing.
Technical difficulties happen and life moves on.
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Nothing.
Technical difficulties happen and life moves on.
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I think this is beyond technical difficulties. They didnt even determine a launch hour leaving many of us waiting 3AM in the morning to order a phone. I think they mis-managed things, not just the technical breakdown of their google play store opening. Think about how many people with their chrome auto-refresh plugin that checked every 5 seconds for an update added on to the load of the google play server. Its really mismanaged and its like they were asking to be DDOSed with crome plugins.
Do we really need loads of threads whining about this?
I'd like a Samsung 830 256GB SSD for my laptop. Please.
I want them to make me the ceo of google.. lol.. i ll ship every nexus to every1 for free.. haha
I expect them to refund shipping cost.
Since the shipping cost is counted before tax is calculated, I expect them to refund the tax on shipping, too.
Interesting how many people only want free shipping. Maybe it should also be upgraded to next day express mail.
nexo85 said:
Interesting how many people only want free shipping. Maybe it should also be upgraded to next day express mail.
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one-day, two-day doesn't really matter.
Free shipping would be nice
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i used to think android fans were better than apple fanboys... level headed and classy
threads like this make me change my mind
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i used to think android fans were better than apple fanboys... level headed and classy
threads like this make me change my mind
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not sure if trolling.
an iPhone 5
Reimbursed shipping and free one day shipping for the grief. But God only knows that might turn into a 3 month delay.
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not sure if trolling.
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whats with the sense of entitlement
google stated an "ESTIMATED" ship date of the 15th
Simple question: Should Google re-implement the pre-order system?
Hopefully some "people of power" within Google will look at the stats generated from this Poll, and adjust their game plan accordingly.
I personally think the pre-order system is the only way to conduct sales on a Lunch date of a high-demand new product for a several reasons, some of them being:
a) Allows both the Manufacturer and/or Google to accurately gauge the market demand prior to launch, and thus create/plan stock accordingly.
b) Allows accurate shipping times to be predicted based on the volume of orders, rather than playing a "guessing game".
c) Allows a specific amount of Launch Date devices to be in stock to at least meet the demand of some of the "on the day purchases", while still achieving the "sold out effect" marketing scheme, if they want.
d) Consumers are more comfortable being informed with expected wait times for orders; comfortable with the fact that the device is already on pre-order (now it's in the hands of Google to roll out the devices). AND consumers don't have to keep checking a website in order to find out if it's available again or not.
The bottom line is: The pre-order system is a more professional and organized approach to selling a high demand item, from only one online source.
Furthermore, I think that Google Play should start taking orders now for the re-stock of Nexus devices, so that even if it has to put on back-order, at least the consumer knows they're in-line/queue for the device, when it becomes available, no more frequent and unnecessary effort in consistently checking back.
I would prefer it would over refreshing lots
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google could care less about the stats from an xda post... we comprise of probably less than 0.01% of the buying market for the n4
I think they should!. Thing is.... Pre ordering gives us as the consumer the option to give interest and thus giving Google the information needed to generate a general clue as of demand. At the moment, the only demand they can calculate is site activities.
As its been mentioned all over this forum, both here in the UK & Internationally. Google, has really shown themselves to be very amateurish on how they have conducted there orders and allowing the customer to show interest in purchasing there products.
Poorly managed I hear you ask?!... Its been a complete embarrassment for such a big company!.
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Lock up peoples money before every delivering a phone? Of course they should. It's a good business model
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Lock up peoples money before every delivering a phone? Of course they should. It's a good business model
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Well if you want the device, you want the device. You're going to pay either now or later, doesn't make a different.
Better to be informed and secure that your device is on order and not "up in the air".
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google could care less about the stats from an xda post... we comprise of probably less than 0.01% of the buying market for the n4
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dont know about that. they dont even advertise. most people i know dont even know google makes devices. for that matter android lmao. i bet most of the buyers were from xda such as myself
Except that it is not legal to sell something a product that you do not have in hand.
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Oh ya xda website during launch was almost crashing and not Google huh?..... didn't know xda had better servers.
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For something like nexus 4 I would definitely put down my money even it was 6 months before shipping.
It should make a eu play store devices... thre are no custom between states in europe, why is only in 5 countries ._.
There was problems when they did preordering before however there was only really 2 problems they needed to fix rather than abandoning preorders completely.
First the problem with the nexus 7 was that as orders came in it didn't change the estimated delivery timescale. If the site updates the estimate even if it gets to be weeks at least you know what to be expect. How hard is it to say we have x thousand for release, y thousand a week later and update the estimate accordingly as ordered are placed.
Secondly the other problem was they ended up sending out newly placed orders immediately while seeming to forget about those that preordered. This is something that should have been fixed quite easily by simply fulfilling orders in the correct order.
I agree that if they did preordering properly it would be better than the current system.
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There was problems when they did preordering before however there was only really 2 problems they needed to fix rather than abandoning preorders completely.
First the problem with the nexus 7 was that as orders came in it didn't change the estimated delivery timescale. If the site updates the estimate even if it gets to be weeks at least you know what to be expect. How hard is it to say we have x thousand for release, y thousand a week later and update the estimate accordingly as ordered are placed.
Secondly the other problem was they ended up sending out newly placed orders immediately while seeming to forget about those that preordered. This is something that should have been fixed quite easily by simply fulfilling orders in the correct order.
I agree that if they did preordering properly it would be better than the current system.
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I love how your solution solving procedure is the solution itself... lol
How did you come up with 4? 4.
Over 90% so far agree that they should re-implement pre-ordering. Good stats so far
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Except that it is not legal to sell something a product that you do not have in hand.
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Haha says who?
Honestly, I would vote that Google leave the ordering/shipping business all together. They can still make great devices, but launch after launch, Google has proved that they just can't get a clue. If Amazon.com can give me free two day shipping on a 15 pound medicine ball and charge me $30, I think that Google should be able to successfully launch 5, yes 5 new products at the same time. And remember, this is not the first F'd up launch. Pre-orders for the N7 didn't go so well either.
Personally, I will stay with the Nexus line far into the future, however, no longer will I be purchasing from Google directly.
And PS, their ordering web site look like it is from 10 years ago, doesn't provide barely any useful information, and sometimes doesn't even get updated until after the even has happened (IE, someone receives and order even though their order says "Pending"). This is from the same company that created an app that can zoom all over the world and show us down to 100 feet what a street in, say, China, looks like.
Nah screw that. I like instant gratification, and want my stuff as soon as its announces.
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Someone who knows more than you apparently.
BakaPhoenix said:
It should make a eu play store devices... thre are no custom between states in europe, why is only in 5 countries ._.
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I think google likes EU custumores buy million of Apple devices. And Apple thanks.
Google = :angel:
Google royally screwed up the launch, everyone can agree with that. Google should implement a preorder system and like you said allowed people to secure their place in line.
Even Apple allows people to do that via carriers (Rogers in Canada allowed people to pre-order). Looks like there's a lot Google needs to learn before they get this right as their Nexus 7 launch wasn't that good in the first place.
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Google royally screwed up the launch, everyone can agree with that. Google should implement a preorder system and like you said allowed people to secure their place in line.
Even Apple allows people to do that via carriers (Rogers in Canada allowed people to pre-order). Looks like there's a lot Google needs to learn before they get this right as their Nexus 7 launch wasn't that good in the first place.
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Agreed.
Play Store availability tracking sites:
http://whohas.it/g/247
http://ludalex.soupwhale.com/n4checker/?type=n4_16gb#
Play Store Availability APP: download this app straight from the play store to track new n4 stocks!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...yLm5vdGlmaWVycy5hbmRyb2lkNGluc3RvY2thbGFybSJd
External availability:
http://negrielectronics.com/lg-e960-nexus-4-16gb-unlocked-black.html#.ULaC7uRkjy0
http://negrielectronics.com/lg-e960-nexus-4-8gb-unlocked-black.html#.UK5A9uRkjy0
http://www.expansys.ca/google-lg-nexus-4-android-smartphone-8gb-unlocked-239759/
Updates
As per U.K retailer, new stock expected Dec 10! http://www.digital-phone.co.uk/product/google-nexus-4-8gb.aspx
Follow conversation about restock:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/106515095432315677569/posts/HXbYp9wSCDY
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/mobile/9qI_Lvj8ivU/discussion
Nov 27: New Batch limits 2/person http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-4-purchases-limites-play-store-134437/
UPDATE DEC 3: NEXUS 4 AVAILABLE FOR SALE TODAY!! CANADA ONLY
UPDATE DEC 4: NEXUS 4 AVAILABLE FOR SALE TODAY! GERMANY ONLY at 5:00 pm CET!
UPDATE DEC 4: NEXUS 4 AVAILABLE FOR SALE TODAY! UK ONLY at 5:00 pm GMT!
MAIN Nexus 4 Shipping Spreadsheet - Please fill to keep track of shipping orders and delivery timings!
http://goo.gl/aGyWi
If y'all find any other useful information please post in the thread and I will update OP accordingly! Hopefully, we can keep each other posted on any rumors or updates for when Google might restock the Play store with more Nexus 4's
tuffballa said:
check this out..seems legit. According to Play Store reps, more will be out before Black Friday which is next Friday! what do you think?
http://www.androidinfosource.com/2012/11/16/nexus-4-weeks-away-days-according-to-play-support/
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lol.
That is impossible. They have thousands of orders that have never been shipped and they have a huge back-order list. To top it off UPS whom we assume is handling all of the logistics is ***king up. The chances they will get their current orders out this week are incredibly low, to add more orders to it is not happening.
I seriously hope its true. I REALLY want to get mine for Christmas. I'm seeing a second chance if this is true.
No one else credible is reporting this.
A story this big would definitely be picked up by the more well known android news orgs. I'm not buying it.
That said, it would behoove Google to get something going soon, so as not to miss the holiday season.
Personally I'm already looking at the SGS3, or the Note II.
Smells like bull****
Seems like bs to me. If this was the case surely they would let us all know. I don't believe it.
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.... To top it off UPS whom we assume is handling all of the logistics is ***king up.
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No one with half a brain "assumes" that UPS is part of the Nexus 4 roll out fiasco. UPS is delivering the devices, but I'd bet the farm, that they aren't the cause of any of this the issues in getting phones in the hands of buyers.
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check this out..seems legit. According to Play Store reps
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Stopped reading right there.
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Stopped reading right there.
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LOL agreed. "Play Store Reps" have been the primary source of mis-information so far.
lol agreed but the article also states confirmed by "play store manager" but who knows..if play store reps dont know better..then who does??
If this was being caused by ups, ups would have informed us. They site are not to blame at all.
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If this was being caused by ups, ups would have informed us. They site are not to blame at all.
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Yeah I am not sure where that came from.
If there is like a single Play Store manager Ibet he is trying typo get answers also.
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To top it off UPS whom we assume is handling all of the logistics is ***king up.
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Ummm, I think that's dependent on the country you're in. UPS is very accurate in Canada, never had an issue with them before.
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No one with half a brain "assumes" that UPS is part of the Nexus 4 roll out fiasco. UPS is delivering the devices, but I'd bet the farm, that they aren't the cause of any of this the issues in getting phones in the hands of buyers.
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UPS is the one who is managing the warehouse that the items are being shipped from. That is why people are assuming they have something to do with this. That and its not out of the ordinary for UPS to work with a different system then FIFO to reduce cost and increase effectiveness.
Thanksgiving 2013?
Ups manages their warehouse? Most Likely they just send trucks..
I really don't think ups is the problem. I asked my brother about this. He is a manager at ups and has been there for over 15 years. He said he has heard nothing about any issues anywhere. He would tell me if he hears anything.
He manages logistics, etc so I am sure he would be able to find out if there was a major problem.
The fault lies with Google. All the double orders, auto page refreshers, etc.. This is why they got messed up but I still don't understand how they could run out of stock so fast unless they were planning it by not having much on hand.
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Google does not sell nearly enough devices to warrant having their own warehouse. At the amount of devices that they are selling they have to outsource to a different company. In this case we can easily assume based from where they are shipping from Kentucky where UPS has a very large warehouse for distribution. The fact that UPS was the only shipping option and that google is clearly not working with Amazon, Newegg, Walmart or another large company leaves the most logical guess that it is UPS.
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Google does not sell nearly enough devices to warrant having their own warehouse. At the amount of devices that they are selling they have to outsource to a different company. In this case we can easily assume based from where they are shipping from Kentucky where UPS has a very large warehouse for distribution. The fact that UPS was the only shipping option and that google is clearly not working with Amazon, Newegg, Walmart or another large company leaves the most logical guess that it is UPS.
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You do not think Google has a warehouse?
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Richieboy67 said:
You do not think Google has a warehouse?
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They do not sell enough devices to warrant the expenses of a in house where house. Having a warehouse is not cheap, and its some thing you normally have to go big or not at all.
Here is an idea that requires everyone to participate.
Plan: Try and get Best Buy to sell you a Nexus 5 before official launch. Maybe they have stock already.
Action: Call your local Best Buy and act dumb. Tell them you want to buy the Nexus 5 and to put one on hold for you to pick up. Or walk into a store if you prefer and do the same. Ask them if perhaps they have a Nexus 5 sitting in the back of the store. Make no mention of the fact that it hasn't officially been announced for sale.
I forget exactly which phone was sold before it was officially released a years or so ago. I remember reading that this guy got a phone before time and he was a bit nervous about it but posted details online about it. So this is possible people! If you remember this incident and the phone remind us.
If everyone does it we might get lucky and have more info to share on the Nexus 5.
Of course report back if you are successful. It might even be fun to report the failed outcomes too. Be creative. See if you can snag an inventory screen shot. See if at least they tell you that they are back there but that they can't be touched.
PS - Don't be that guy. If you think this is a stupid plan be polite. Offer your opinion and insight in a respectful way. You can't say it isn't possible because this has happened before. Sure there are practices in place to prevent this. But all it takes is one rookie mistake and things go unexpected. This is all in good fun. We might get lucky!
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Who told you it was going to be sold at Best Buy? I see you have a N4, did you get that at Best Buy too?
We don't know if Best Buy is going to sell the Nexus 5. But they might. They sell all the other Google products (Nexus 7, Chromecast, Chromebook, etc). We also know from a particular Canadian store that there is Nexus 5 inventory. So the Nexus 5 isn't going to be exclusive to the Play Store. None if this is definite for Best Buy, but it can't hurt to try our luck. Perhaps Google learned from the N4 launch that Play Store only sales is bad way to launch a product.
... And I got my N4 and N10 from the Play Store on launch day.
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intekmdma said:
Who told you it was going to be sold at Best Buy? I see you have a N4, did you get that at Best Buy too?
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Several BestBuy managers have told people that they will have the Nexus 5 in stock.
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We don't know if Best Buy is going to sell the Nexus 5. But they might. They sell all the other Google products (Nexus 7, Chromecast, Chromebook, etc). We also know from a particular Canadian store that there is Nexus 5 inventory. So the Nexus 5 isn't going to be exclusive to the Play Store. None if this is definite for Best Buy, but it can't hurt to try our luck. Perhaps Google learned from the N4 launch that Play Store only sales is bad way to launch a product.
... And I got my N4 and N10 from the Play Store on launch day.
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When you say a particular Canadian store, are you talking about Future Shop?
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Several BestBuy managers have told people that they will have the Nexus 5 in stock.
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Are you talking about those end cap displays? I thought they were only for N7, Chromcast
I may try this tomorrow if I'm bored before work. Ha I'll report back.
Good luck! It worked with the Nexus 7 a couple months ago.
I bought the n7 2 days early at BB too...I saw the box up above in those locked cages...so I pointed and asked for it...worth a try I guess.
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UK CarPhone Warehouse has 3,000 in stock according to a leak , I wonder if it would work there as in best buy? Does it depend on how clueless the staff is?
I think there is a definite possibility it will be sold at Best Buy. Google seems to be taking a different direction with this phone. More hype, and evleaks posted that it is going to be available on Sprint..
a friend of mine who works at BB as a manager told me they are expecting to sell the phone, but that they have yet to receive any units and might not get them until after its already out. This is on LI NY btw
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a friend of mine who works at BB as a manager told me they are expecting to sell the phone, but that they have yet to receive any units and might not get them until after its already out. This is on LI NY btw
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If they're going to sell the phone it should be in their inventory systems; it's an easy thing to check.
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UK CarPhone Warehouse has 3,000 in stock according to a leak , I wonder if it would work there as in best buy? Does it depend on how clueless the staff is?
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That and whether or not their system will allow them to sell it.
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mb3030 said:
a friend of mine who works at BB as a manager told me they are expecting to sell the phone, but that they have yet to receive any units and might not get them until after its already out. This is on LI NY btw
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Which bb in li? I live close to the one at green acres
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If they're going to sell the phone it should be in their inventory systems; it's an easy thing to check.
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Very true, that's why I find it's hard to believe that they'll have the N5 at launch. Someone should've posted a picture of the inventory already. I know I would if I was still there. (Like for the Wii's and PS3's.)
I'm pretty confident they are. I visit my local BestBuy yesterday and asked a customer service rep. He said he knew what I was talking about and went to ask his manager if he could sell it. When he came back 2-3 minutes later, he told me suddenly he wasn't permitted to talk about it because it's not official, so he couldn't legally converse over it. I'm going to try back at another location and see if I can get someone to pop early there, I also got my Nexus 7 2013 48 hours before launch just because I asked. Some guy went in the back and got it for me. Worth a try I suppose.
Hmm. I have a friend that works at BB.
jayr04 said:
Hmm. I have a friend that works at BB.
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This changes...everything...
jayr04 said:
Hmm. I have a friend that hangs around and gets paid for it at BB.
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So would it be better to go to the store and hang around the phones? Or just call the store?