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So with the Nexus 4 around the corner, I'm sure a lot of us are wondering if we should keep messing with this phone. The Nexus 4 is 300 bucks for the 8gb version, so you could sell this phone and get 150-200, and cover the rest. It is completely unlocked and has higher specs all around than this phone (besides no LTE which may stop me from buying it). So I was wondering how much of this community will stay with the AHD. It's a great device, especially with the new battery, but is it worth not be able to flash as many roms as possible to it? Let me know your opinions and help me make up my mind! If I do decide to get it I will have a AHD with the battey mod, otterbox, TPU case, hdmi, and Zagg screen protector for sale lol. But seriously anyone open to speak their minds? I don't know what to do!
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So with the Nexus 4 around the corner, I'm sure a lot of us are wondering if we should keep messing with this phone. The Nexus 4 is 300 bucks for the 8gb version, so you could sell this phone and get 150-200, and cover the rest. It is completely unlocked and has higher specs all around than this phone (besides no LTE which may stop me from buying it). So I was wondering how much of this community will stay with the AHD. It's a great device, especially with the new battery, but is it worth not be able to flash as many roms as possible to it? Let me know your opinions and help me make up my mind! If I do decide to get it I will have a AHD with the battey mod, otterbox, TPU case, hdmi, and Zagg screen protector for sale lol. But seriously anyone open to speak their minds? I don't know what to do!
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Given the lack of a working recovery at this point. I'm giving serious consideration to picking up a N4 as my primary, and keeping my AHD as a backup.
If you read the reviews on the N4, in spite of the newer hardware, it still gets spanked by the One X, and the S3. HERE on Anandtech.
Knowing that my phone spanks both the OneX as well as the S3 like a red headed step child, it's going to be tough moving to a somewhat slower phone, but having a working recovery to backup, and flash my ROMs as updates occur is much more important to me
ATGAdmin said:
Given the lack of a working recovery at this point. I'm giving serious consideration to picking up a N4 as my primary, and keeping my AHD as a backup.
If you read the reviews on the N4, in spite of the newer hardware, it still gets spanked by the One X, and the S3. HERE on Anandtech.
Knowing that my phone spanks both the OneX as well as the S3 like a red headed step child, it's going to be tough moving to a somewhat slower phone, but having a working recovery to backup, and flash my ROMs as updates occur is much more important to me
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Everything I have read says that it's better than the S3 and One X. I know Hashcode will get a recovery worked out. I am also annoying Moto on twitter and their live chat. So we will see if they ever unlock this bootloader.
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Everything I have read says that it's better than the S3 and One X. I know Hashcode will get a recovery worked out. I am also annoying Moto on twitter and their live chat. So we will see if they ever unlock this bootloader.
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lol read my hits @motorola. I try to spank them daily. Remember when tweeting them to use #motofail lol
As to the N4 being better than the One X and S3, read the link. The only thing it beats the S3 and One X is in gaming, and as I've said before, that's what my XBox is for, not my phone
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lol read my hits @motorola. I try to spank them daily. Remember when tweeting them to use #motofail lol
As to the N4 being better than the One X and S3, read the link. The only thing it beats the S3 and One X is in gaming, and as I've said before, that's what my XBox is for, not my phone
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Ah, do you see any chance of us getting the bootloader unlocked? It looked like Matt was making good progress, I'm guessing that is when he bricked his phone, although I dont know for sure. Or do you think this phone will end up getting left behind completely. I really like this phone, but I am tired of moto already. Seriously, coming out with a dev version 4 months after the retail???? With NO word it will ever come out. That is absolute bs. At least let us trade in out retail version for the dev version (obviously with a small upgrade fee, maybe 50-100 bucks). I would be fine with that and it would be do able for them.
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Ah, do you see any chance of us getting the bootloader unlocked? It looked like Matt was making good progress, I'm guessing that is when he bricked his phone, although I dont know for sure. Or do you think this phone will end up getting left behind completely. I really like this phone, but I am tired of moto already. Seriously, coming out with a dev version 4 months after the retail???? With NO word it will ever come out. That is absolute bs. At least let us trade in out retail version for the dev version (obviously with a small upgrade fee, maybe 50-100 bucks). I would be fine with that and it would be do able for them.
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I don't know wtf Moto is up to lately?!?
I was reading that there's a "brick wall" between Google and Moto, meaning that Google bought them for their patents, and they refuse to show any bias towards them in fear of pissing off other phone manufacturers.
I sure wish Google would rethink this strategy, and start building phones that really blow anything else out of the water.
They have the OS, and they now own a company that has the "potential" to build the best phones out, yet they keep frigging things up.
I know I'll never purchase another Moto phone until/unless they start rethinking their strategy, and at the very least stop encrypting the signatures for the bootloaders.
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I don't know wtf Moto is up to lately?!?
I was reading that there's a "brick wall" between Google and Moto, meaning that Google bought them for their patents, and they refuse to show any bias towards them in fear of pissing off other phone manufacturers.
I sure wish Google would rethink this strategy, and start building phones that really blow anything else out of the water.
They have the OS, and they now own a company that has the "potential" to build the best phones out, yet they keep frigging things up.
I know I'll never purchase another Moto phone until/unless they start rethinking their strategy, and at the very least stop encrypting the signatures for the bootloaders.
Just my .02c
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Yea I read that also, I also read the that "brick wall" may, just may, be full of holes lol
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Yea I read that also, I also read the that "brick wall" may, just may, be full of holes lol
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Let's hope that no one starts sticking their thumbs in those holes lol
LG phone? You know that build quality is about on par with a fake Chinese triple sim yPhone... forget it...
Ill buy another phone when it can be converted to a laptop with the whole bundle costing under $300.
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LG phone? You know that build quality is about on par with a fake Chinese triple sim yPhone... forget it...
Ill buy another phone when it can be converted to a laptop with the whole bundle costing under $300.
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From reviews, it suppose to be pretty high quality. Also is suppose to feel nice in the hand. With that said, still a good point and something to look for.
LG's build quailty is under-rated. Same as with any hobby or whatever you call this phone obsession. People look at price and give it a bad name. I think LG started turning the corner with the Nitro. It was a solid phone. Nothing compares to Moto though with build quality. But I think LG beats Samsung and HTC.
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LG phone? You know that build quality is about on par with a fake Chinese triple sim yPhone... forget it...
Ill buy another phone when it can be converted to a laptop with the whole bundle costing under $300.
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Yeah ummm OK. Google is going to allow LG to build them a cheap azz phone as their flagship Nexus device?!?
And keep holding your breath for that bundle under $300.00 lol
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Yeah ummm OK. Google is going to allow LG to build them a cheap azz phone as their flagship Nexus device
And keep holding your breath for that bundle under $300.00 lol
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I have had lg phones back in the day that crapped out on me, BUT my roommate has an lg phone and it has been a great phone for him.
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I have had lg phones back in the day that crapped out on me, BUT my roommate has an lg phone and it has been a great phone for him.
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Yeah, while I'm not a big fan of LG devices, the N4 was built to Google's specs, not LG's.
For soljagirl to say otherwise was ludicrous lol
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Yeah, while I'm not a big fan of LG devices, the N4 was built to Google's specs, not LG's.
For soljagirl to say otherwise was ludicrous lol
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Not to mention there is no way any of us have actually used the device yet. I did see a review where the back was already cracked though. Not a good sign, but could also just be a freak accident.
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Not to mention there is no way any of us have actually used the device yet. I did see a review where the back was already cracked though. Not a good sign, but could also just be a freak accident.
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Anandtech's Performance review here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review
Their "Closer Look" review here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6419/nexus-4-and-nexus-10-a-closer-look
The back is made of glass, the one big negative if you're one not to use a case.
Like no one learned anything from the mistakes of the IPhone/IPod?!?
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Anandtech's Performance review here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review
Their "Closer Look" review here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6419/nexus-4-and-nexus-10-a-closer-look
The back is made of glass, the one big negative if you're one not to use a case.
Like no one learned anything from the mistakes of the IPhone/IPod?!?
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I wish I could send my Atrix HD to google and get a good percentage off on this phone lol. I am over not being able to flash away. That is a big reason I got an android, I wanted to learn to develop roms. Unfortunately I feel that is much harder on a locked down device lol
Oh I'm staying. Don't need the nexus 4. Very happy with my Had.
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Oh I'm staying. Don't need the nexus 4. Very happy with my Had.
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Haha I agree, I will be giving it a few more months! I have decided to wait lol
I'll definitely be sticking with the Atrix HD. I was a flashaholic on my Atrix 4G so I was disappointed that this phone has a locked down bootloader. On the other hand, I've had absolutely no complaints about this phone especially where battery life is concerned with the EB40. Having all the power that this phone has to offer with excellent battery life is just what I needed. This phone has completely replaced my computers altogether. As for the bootloader, Hashcode has already done tremendous work on getting safestrap working for our devices. Why worry about a locked bootloader when we can get around it with safestrap? Isn't the point of an unlocked bootloader to get a custom recovery for flashing and isn't that what safestrap hopes to do without the need for unlocking the bootloader? I won't be giving this phone up anytime soon and I look forward to getting a Paranoid Android build going for it.
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So I got my phone yesterday evening at 7pm from the UPS driver and of course it was the latest I had ever received a package!
Anyways, all I have to say is that getting a phone from the "second wave" seems to have been a great thing because I have had ZERO issues at all so far. Right away I looked over the entire phone for any cosmetic defects that have been reported and nothing was found wrong. The screen IMO is amazing and colors look perfect as well. There is NO yellow tint whatsoever and I even had my GF look at it to make sure. Battery is already better than my former Blaze 4G and that's saying something. This phone is definitely a fresh start from the touchwiz ui and made me realize that was really kiddish looking like IOS IMO. The camera takes pictures just fine although I am still trying to figure out all the features on it. The phone got pretty warm on initial start up when all of my apps were being installed from the Play store but after that, normal browsing and such did not make it any warmer than anything i have felt before in other phones. Finally, there is NO buzzing in my earpiece at all, and yes my hearing is good, this again I had my GF check too so I knew I was not crazy.
So honestly, I think that maybe the second wave was produced better or something I really don't know, but I encourage anyone to get this phone if they have been debating because of other peoples "issues". Thanks
That's great to hear. I also ordered a N4 from the second batch and I can't wait for it to be here. Nice review
Mine does rattle. Got it yesterday. But I could care less about that. Loving the phone so far. Just want to be able to order a bumper and get my best skins ever in so I don't worry so much about using it.
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So honestly, I think that maybe the second wave was produced better or something I really don't know, but I encourage anyone to get this phone if they have been debating because of other peoples "issues". Thanks
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Grats on getting your phone; you're gonna love it.
I got mine a week after the initial ordering and my phone is perfect, so I don't know about any second waves or anything like that. There are always going to be phones with manufacturing-related defects; that's why they do exchanges. Don't get hung up on a few people who think their phones are s**t.
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Mine does rattle. Got it yesterday. But I could care less about that. Loving the phone so far. Just want to be able to order a bumper and get my best skins ever in so I don't worry so much about using it.
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Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
I have my nexus 4 from the first wave ( received it on the 19th) and never got any issues with it.
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Yep, loving mine.
Coming from a s2 and then a s3 I had for 2 weeks.. The things I thought would bother me really don't.
I rooted to restor backups and I love vanilla Android, probably won't even do any rom'ing
I received my phone from the first batch and the only problem i have is that i cant put it down.
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I received my phone from the first batch and the only problem i have is that i cant put it down.
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Second wave myself. No issues. I love this phone. Just thinking of how to customize the first page. I can't make it look too much like my old phone.
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Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
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lol
I got my 2 Nexus 4's yesterday. The one seems fine, but I have an issue with the 2nd one. During calls, the earpiece buzzes while making sounds. The earpiece does not make any sounds when it is off like a lot of people seem to report. This is strictly a problem during calls and it sounds like the speaker is blown. It does rattle a bit when I'm putting it on a table or whatnot, but that doesn't really bother me.
Called support yesterday, and they were supposed to send me an e-mail with instructions on sending this one back and getting a replacement, but haven't actually received anything from them.
I seem to have some kind of knack for getting bad phones from Google. I had ordered 2 Galaxy Nexus phones when they came out, and ended up getting a replacement for one of the phones because there was dust in the camera. The replacement had the wifi go out, so I had to get that one replaced. The third one actually had a similar buzzing issue with the earpiece but it wasn't as bad, and I was tired of dealing with them at that point, so I lived with it.
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Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
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Why reply if you don't care? Not sure of what your point is..
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Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
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Just speaking a link?
sent via xda premium with nexus 7 while waiting for my shiny new Nexus 4!
He's correcting the man's grammar.
Watch the video.
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Couldn't care less.
http://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
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I get what you are saying, but he is still literally correct.
I'm sure he could care less, otherwise he wouldn't have an N4. If he cared less:
- he could have not bought the phone
- he could leave it at a bus stop and go on living
- etc. etc.
Now, I'm sure he could care a hell of a lot MORE about it, taking to the internet in fits of rage, driving to Mountain View and knocking on the front door and such. But still, he could also care less.
Just saying.
Received mine yesterday and it has zero flaw. I don't take the mini rattle as one as it comes from the camera (autofocus?) and all the phones I tested since learning that on this forum have it.
For those of you wondering if the bumper is worth 20 euros, it's definitely well made, perfectly fits the look of the phone and prevents the back from direct contact but... well, the phone has a perfect size for my hand and the bumper adds about 0.5 - 0.7 cm in width which makes it awkward to hold. I find myself removing it often when using my phone.
My 2 cents.
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Does your phone have touch sensitive issue?
Most people that received the initial batch also had zero issues. It's basically just a couple squeaky wheels that make things seem worse than they actually are.
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Edit: you would never believe it from the way it looks but I would say majority of the people who ordered on the 13th got the phone within the 3-5 business day quote. Just as an example.
droidmakespwn said:
Most people that received the initial batch also had zero issues. It's basically just a couple squeaky wheels that make things seem worse than they actually are.
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Edit: you would never believe it from the way it looks but I would say majority of the people who ordered on the 13th got the phone within the 3-5 business day quote. Just as an example.
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I don't have any issues whatsoever from the 1st batch. The more you try to look for something to be wrong the higher the chance that something unnoticeable will begin to irritate you lol.
Zero issues with the first batch. But if these phones get better with each batch, imagine the 50th batch!
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Just received my order of two 16GBs yesterday. The first one (for myself) has a black dot between the screen and the glass, right in the middle. I tried to live with it but its very distracting especially on a light background.
Today I unboxed the other one and it won't even turn on. Plugged it to the charger and the LED light kept flashing red.
I'm very disappointed with the QC of the N4. So much for fighting through orders and shipping
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Just received my order of two 16GBs yesterday. The first one (for myself) has a black dot between the screen and the glass, right in the middle. I tried to live with it but its very distracting especially on a light background.
Today I unboxed the other one and it won't even turn on. Plugged it to the charger and the LED light kept flashing red.
I'm very disappointed with the QC of the N4. So much for fighting through orders and shipping
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Sorry dude. People were so pleased when Google announced the price of this thing. I wish they had just given it a normal price and used the extra money to fix the thermal issues, screen issues, battery, etc. I haven't found any problems with mine yet but given the launch failure and all the issues, this may be my last nexus.
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will they charge him restocking fee as mentioned in google play store under refunds?
send me the flashing red one plz
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if you really happy with the phone, give google a call explain the defect they will send
replacement pretty fast like 3 days, they actually have stock just for defect so u wont wait weeks for it.. and the best part is you dont have to ship yours first they ship it
once u get it u can ship yours.. good luck
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Sorry dude. People were so pleased when Google announced the price of this thing. I wish they had just given it a normal price and used the extra money to fix the thermal issues, screen issues, battery, etc. I haven't found any problems with mine yet but given the launch failure and all the issues, this may be my last nexus.
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If they had a higher price I wouldn't of had to upgrade!
Dang it Google!
I will probably do an RMA since the phone is awesome...when it works.
Where can I find the number to call Google?
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if you really happy with the phone, give google a call explain the defect they will send
replacement pretty fast like 3 days, they actually have stock just for defect so u wont wait weeks for it.. and the best part is you dont have to ship yours first they ship it
once u get it u can ship yours.. good luck
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There's quite a few of us RMA people still waiting for ours to be shipped. Been a week
So did you get a replacement ?
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There's quite a few of us RMA people still waiting for ours to be shipped. Been a week
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Hmm that's weird. Got mine 3 days after calling called Monday received it Thursday
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Sorry dude. People were so pleased when Google announced the price of this thing. I wish they had just given it a normal price and used the extra money to fix the thermal issues, screen issues, battery, etc. I haven't found any problems with mine yet but given the launch failure and all the issues, this may be my last nexus.
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I don't think price comes into factor with defects. I paid the same price as the OP and my phone has no defects and has been running flawlessly. And I am pretty sure if we all paid double, we still would be seeing the posts with defects, lol.
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I don't think price comes into factor with defects. I paid the same price as the OP and my phone has no defects and has been running flawlessly. And I am pretty sure if we all paid double, we still would be seeing the posts with defects, lol.
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Of course the price is connected with quality check, but man, let the truth enlighten you: the number of posts regarding defects would be way smaller; take HTC for example (or iPhone, I AM IN NO WAY AN APPLE FANBOY, I'VE NEVER HAD ANY APPLE THING )
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Of course the price is connected with quality check, but man, let the truth enlighten you: the number of posts regarding defects would be way smaller; take HTC for example (or iPhone, I AM IN NO WAY AN APPLE FANBOY, I'VE NEVER HAD ANY APPLE THING )
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Yeah I agree if they had charged us an extra $150 each I think they could have done at least something to improve the quality and reduce defects. Of course, knowing Google they probably would have just given us the middle finger, kept the extra cash, and sent out defective products anyways.
Sad. But that's now my impression of Google.
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Yeah I agree if they had charged us an extra $150 each I think they could have done at least something to improve the quality and reduce defects. Of course, knowing Google they probably would have just given us the middle finger, kept the extra cash, and sent out defective products anyways.
Sad. But that's now my impression of Google.
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Not sure why you think that, but OK.
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I don't think price comes into factor with defects. I paid the same price as the OP and my phone has no defects and has been running flawlessly. And I am pretty sure if we all paid double, we still would be seeing the posts with defects, lol.
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Of course quality control affects price. QC can be very labor intensive($$$), from just auditing the boards and components at various levels of production, to scrap (throwing away defective product $$$) or rework (labor intensive $$$) of product with defects. I speak from experience here. No doubt QC suffered in order to offer the Nexus 4 at this price. Of course, it probably didn't suffer as much as it might have from other manufactures, as Google does not have to make money on the device itself as they can rake in the money from the Play store.
I mean, I love that I am able to purchase such a high end device for $299/349, but I think we really have to worry about what this will do to the rest of the Android ecosystem. Amazon has already been putting the hurt on everybody (other than Apple) in the tablet market with their Fire tablets (again, they can make money from the Amazon app store, and other content), and now Google is putting the Squeeze on everybody else with the Nexus 4, the Nexus 7, and the Nexus 10.
Competition is good for everybody, but if only Apple, Amazon and Google can make money due to owning the content stores, then that's a bad omen for the industry IMHO. But I digress.
You know I see everyone blaming Google when Google didn't make the hardware. They only did the software. I saw this coming when then announced LG was the hardware OEM. They have never been known for outstanding hardware.
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zelendel said:
You know I see everyone blaming Google when Google didn't make the hardware. They only did the software. I saw this coming when then announced LG was the hardware OEM. They have never been known for outstanding hardware.
Batcom2
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Google was the supervisor of the whole project. Google selected LG. If you think the phone is perfect, Google deserves most of the credit. If you think it sucks, Google deserves much of the blame.
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Today I unboxed the other one and it won't even turn on. Plugged it to the charger and the LED light kept flashing red.
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Have you tried charging it on a pc?
Plug it into USB port of computer and leave for half hour.
This happens on a few android devices when fully discharged and pc charging is the only way to do it sometimes.
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I've got an rma out for mine for a similar issue, there's a black squiggly line going across my camera lens...seems like it's probably stuck between my camera lens and the glass. Not a huge deal, but definitely an annoyance to have to send it back, especially after unlocking and rooting it.
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I'm inclined to believe that offering these Nexus devices at such a low price has resulted in quality control going out the window, as well as warranty. The Nexus 4 seems to have a lot of issues and the Nexus 7 has had its fair share as well.
I had a Nexus 7 and the first one I got had a washed out screen and the well known screen lift on the left side so I exchanged it and my second one only had screen lift as well but to a much lesser degree so I kept it. A couple months go by and I go to pick it up off my table, placing my thumb on that left side and the screen cracked from one side to the other, leaving the top portion unresponsive to touch. I called up both ASUS and Google and neither would do anything about it.
That experience and what I'm seeing here about the Nexus 4 has resulted in me losing faith in Nexus devices, which sucks because I loved the Galaxy Nexus and was really looking forward to this year's Nexus phone.
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I'm inclined to believe that offering these Nexus devices at such a low price has resulted in quality control going out the window, as well as warranty. The Nexus 4 seems to have a lot of issues and the Nexus 7 has had its fair share as well.
I had a Nexus 7 and the first one I got had a washed out screen and the well known screen lift on the left side so I exchanged it and my second one only had screen lift as well but to a much lesser degree so I kept it. A couple months go by and I go to pick it up off my table, placing my thumb on that left side and the screen cracked from one side to the other, leaving the top portion unresponsive to touch. I called up both ASUS and Google and neither would do anything about it.
That experience and what I'm seeing here about the Nexus 4 has resulted in me losing faith in Nexus devices, which sucks because I loved the Galaxy Nexus and was really looking forward to this year's Nexus phone.
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Agree completely. My nexus 7 had screen lift issues but I didn't care enough to RMA. Maybe I should have, though, because it completely died while charging last week, and now I have no choice but to RMA.
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I am not trolling, but maybe the N4 isn't for you, I hope you won't close this thread or get to mad, I just want to save some the frustration of buying this device ... here is why
1. OTG USB - it said it had it when I bought it, it doesn't ! This isn't a very "advanced" feature nowadays and is basic. I can't plug in a keyboard, a external drive, or million other things. This would have been a deal breaker for me.
2. The battery isn't very good, having extra batteries is a very good thing, and charging them in a charger with you phone stashed away is a must while traveling sometimes.
3. It is too fragile for many people's daily use, the glass back is expensive to replace, it doesn't have areas made to take impacts like most phones should for use in the real world.
4. An SD card is awesome in a phone, it really is you can do so much in daily productivity with one.
5. It doesn't come with a headset and that sucks big time, ad that to the cost of ownership.
6. JB doesn't have Mass Storage mode, this very important to many people, Samsung still has it thou. Its great as you might want to plug your phone into a strangers mac in the middle of a desert one day and you won't be able to move files.
7. the main camera is under glass, so if you scratch the glass you get bad shots.
8. it is so slippery that you need to have a bumper on it, I dont like cases and bumpers as It is already to big for my pocket naked.
Now I know there is reasons people might love this phone, for playing games plugged in at home, some might care about getting updates ASAP (i dont care at all) It does have a pretty screen, wireless charging... there is lots of reasons you might LOVE this phone, but for ME it is a big huge downgrade from any other "superphone"
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I am not trolling, but maybe the N4 isn't for you, I hope you won't close this thread or get to mad, I just want to save some the frustration of buying this device ... here is why
1. OTG USB - it said it had it when I bought it, it doesn't ! This isn't a very "advanced" feature nowadays and is basic. I can't plug in a keyboard, a external drive, or million other things. This would have been a deal breaker for me.
2. The battery isn't very good, having extra batteries is a very good thing, and charging them in a charger with you phone stashed away is a must while traveling sometimes.
3. It is too fragile for many people's daily use, the glass back is expensive to replace, it doesn't have areas made to take impacts like most phones should for use in the real world.
4. An SD card is awesome in a phone, it really is you can do so much in daily productivity with one.
5. It doesn't come with a headset and that sucks big time, ad that to the cost of ownership.
6. JB doesn't have Mass Storage mode, this very important to many people, Samsung still has it thou. Its great as you might want to plug your phone into a strangers mac in the middle of a desert one day and you won't be able to move files.
7. the main camera is under glass, so if you scratch the glass you get bad shots.
8. it is so slippery that you need to have a bumper on it, I dont like cases and bumpers as It is already to big for my pocket naked.
Now I know there is reasons people might love this phone, for playing games plugged in at home, some might care about getting updates ASAP (i dont care at all) It does have a pretty screen, wireless charging... there is lots of reasons you might LOVE this phone, but for ME it is a big huge downgrade from any other "superphone"
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I looked through your post history and all you do is tell us why you hate this phone. Listen, we don't have Alzheimer so we don't need constant reminding of your opinion. Just get a phone you like and shut up.
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wow this exact same thread was just closed and now he makes the exact same one with different title. No need to reply this is a troll and this thread will be closed too. Hopefully he will be banned too.
:thumbup: cool story bro
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I like this phone, a lot.. I Also thoroughly enjoy a beer with a freshly opened bag of beef jerky..
That is all
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Anyone likes cake?
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Anyone likes cake?
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Cake up in the face? Not even on my birthday
I am not trolling, but maybe the N4 isn't for you, I hope you won't close this thread or get to mad, I just want to save some the frustration of buying this device ... here is why
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you can't decide that.
1. OTG USB - it said it had it when I bought it, it doesn't ! This isn't a very "advanced" feature nowadays and is basic. I can't plug in a keyboard, a external drive, or million other things. This would have been a deal breaker for me.
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I guess this was told before the release
2. The battery isn't very good, having extra batteries is a very good thing, and charging them in a charger with you phone stashed away is a must while traveling sometimes.
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again was told even before you bought it
3. It is too fragile for many people's daily use, the glass back is expensive to replace, it doesn't have areas made to take impacts like most phones should for use in the real world.
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glass back gives a nice feel to the phone unlike the plasticy Samsung phones (bear in mind even they are slippery and flimsy)
4. An SD card is awesome in a phone, it really is you can do so much in daily productivity with one.
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again was told even before you bought it
5. It doesn't come with a headset and that sucks big time, ad that to the cost of ownership.
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you get what you pay for.
6. JB doesn't have Mass Storage mode, this very important to many people, Samsung still has it thou. Its great as you might want to plug your phone into a strangers mac in the middle of a desert one day and you won't be able to move files.
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I stick a usb into my mac and the phone at the other end and I can transfer files to the n4.
7. the main camera is under glass, so if you scratch the glass you get bad shots.
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same with 90% of the phones out there.
8. it is so slippery that you need to have a bumper on it, I dont like cases and bumpers as It is already to big for my pocket naked.
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don't buy it then..but it's for you to decide for yourself not for others
Now I know there is reasons people might love this phone, for playing games plugged in at home, some might care about getting updates ASAP (i dont care at all) It does have a pretty screen, wireless charging... there is lots of reasons you might LOVE this phone, but for ME it is a big huge downgrade from any other "superphone"
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again it's your personal opinion bro.
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I love this phone//N4 FTW \m/
like a boss
Like I said, don't get mad Bro's, why would you all be so defensive ? It's all good.
Lots of people would LOVE this phone, I said it.
When I ordered it said it had OTG on page, that is fraud in some peoples book, I guess you guys don't care, but I was mislead about a very important basic feature, it almost makes the phone useless, I need OTG more than any other single feature.
If you need phone in the outdoors, this isn't the phone for you, if you need it to move files as easy as you can, this isn't a good phone, if you need lots of battery power, this isnt the phone.
There is lots of reason this may be the prefect phone for you, but for me it isn't.
I am pissed about the cheap construction and the OTG thing, and no headset, those I didin't know when I ordered original.
Your so brainwashed you want to ban someone that isn't agreeing with you ? little hitlers are you ?
What a geeky forum this is, I am not insulting your girlfriend or mom, or yoru race or anything worth getting mad about, I am saying this phone is a big bummer for me all around and I voiced my concerns. You can't handle the debate as you can't really explain why a SD , removable battery, OTG, and a less likely to crack phone isn't good for any usefull reason other than someone has told you it feels better, cloud storage is better and you are find with one battery.
Ok, I guess I am a revoultioanry compared to the sheep around here, I am just being rational. You are not.
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wow this exact same thread was just closed and now he makes the exact same one with different title. No need to reply this is a troll and this thread will be closed too. Hopefully he will be banned too.
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wow, ban someone for not liking their new phone ? That sounds like something a troll would enjoy doing, or Hitler might have, silence the critics scotty, we can't let the bad news out, kill them all ! Black debates where you can't win you just say something like someome is a troll. You are a insecure dude, get a life, it is just a consumer device.
But you have already made these points and have had a thread closed, so why post it again? You lose credibility then and most of your issues are quite subjective to say the least. And to top it off, no headset? What, you mean no cheap tacky headset that is usually replaced by a much better one by the user, isn't included in this phone which is pretty much atleast £100 ($150 to $200) below the cost of other similar phones? And that is an issue? hahaha ok!
they closed my thread because it was in the Q+A forum, fair enough, so I put it in the general forum.
Nothing offensive about my posts of anything, your just mad that I think of this rationally and not like some fairy tale.
I see lots of posts of people complaining about their phones for others to learn from.
It was the people here that convinced me to buy this and not the S2x for $140 less in price, so I wanted to say why I wasn't happy in the end.
This phones isn't as useful to me than others and I said why.
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But you have already made these points and have had a thread closed, so why post it again? You lose credibility then and most of your issues are quite subjective to say the least. And to top it off, no headset? What, you mean no cheap tacky headset that is usually replaced by a much better one by the user, isn't included in this phone which is pretty much atleast £100 ($150 to $200) below the cost of other similar phones? And that is an issue? hahaha ok!
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No thats the thing it is $150 US more expensive that a comparable and for ME a much more usefull phone the SSGS2x with 1.5 gig pro, 1 gig memory, OTG !!!!!, NFC, SD CARD STORAGE !!!!, removable battery, Mass Storage Mode, and many other things that make it FAR better than the N4 For ME for WORK and TRAVEL. I don't watch movies or play games.
Your issues are of course valid but could have easily gone in any off the numerous threads already posted, especially considering none of your issues are unique in any way shape or form. In fact most of them are pretty obvious from just looking at the spec sheet.
Mmmmmmm you had me at beer and Jerky
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OMG dude you forgot:
-> doesn't have LTE
-> new ones aren't glittery
-> google can't keep up with demand and/or LG sucks at manufacturing
-> power button is too hard to reach
seriously go buy a phone you like if you hate this one so much.
Why post such a negative impression
Seems like your thoughts belong in another thread. Love the phone.
Performance is terrific and so open and easy to try new things.'
Got to love the abilty to tweak and play.
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wow, ban someone for not liking their new phone ? That sounds like something a troll would enjoy doing, or Hitler might have, silence the critics scotty, we can't let the bad news out, kill them all ! Black debates where you can't win you just say something like someome is a troll. You are a insecure dude, get a life, it is just a consumer device.
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for trolling, which is what you are doing. Everything you wrote has been said here many times before, you are not discussing anything new. If you are such a rational thinker then why did you buy this phone when there are so many problems with it? Blaming xda because you bought this phone and are not happy with it makes you the sheep.
I would have to agree with the above statement.
I hope the N5 will bring back the things I mentioned I like, its frustrating with new stuff, one step forward, two sideways, one back...
Otherwise, I admit is a beauty in the hand, fast as hell, pretty to look at, I love vanila android.
Here is another thing I LOVE about this phone - for some reason on my cheap proxy browsing with speak out 711 $10 a month, all my apps are working right out of the box, I don't know why, but it made my cheap browsing only plan unlimited data.
Well... I'm going to try and balance the score sheet here, as it seems to me, only the people who are dis-satisfied take to the internet to tell people how they feel, I thought it needs to be shown that there are many more who are happy with their device, and so I'm going to share my experience so far... Ok, so just a mere 2 full days in to ownership.
Firstly, I mentioned in another thread somewhere, that the absolute best thing about buying a new phone is the wait. The anticipation for it to arrive. That feeling of excitement is the best that being an owner of the device is ever going to be... and to me, that remains true. I for one, loved how this device was "announced" the leaks, the rumours... everything. Pure genius from Google.
So, it arrived first thing yesterday morning. My first thoughts were how nice the device felt, solid build quality, a perfect size, and very understated. Just what I was looking for.
As the day went on, I started to worry about battery life. Coming from a Note 2, which with some custom kernel and rom, I could use it all I liked all day and by the time I was going to bed I was at like 30-40% remaining, it was never a doubt for me that this was going to be an issue.... and compared to that, yes, it is an issue.... I'd like it to last all week, who wouldn't? At around 8-9 hours of ownership, I had a feeling that perhaps I should have bought the LG G2... but more on that later. Id be in heaven if that G2 battery would actually fit in there, but alas, it looks as though I'll be rocking 2300mAh for a while.
With my personal battery life reservations aside, the speed, the smoothness, and silkyness of the phone is amazing. If I picked up something with better battery life, I doubt i'd experience the same joy that this thing gives the user. I repair phones etc as a side hobby, so I see a great many of different devices (including the latest from apple) and this is the first time I can say that an android device can match, even the iphone 5s in smoothness, and that is saying a lot.
Hardware wise, I'm not seeing any negatives as I've seen reported by other users here. My screen is vibrant and clear. It beats all my previous devices, and seems to be as vibrant as anything else otherwise touted as "better"
The camera.... well, I'm no photographer. In this department, I guess I'm what you would call the average user. In phones I've actually owned, my favourite camera has been the galaxy S3. Overall image quality aside, the thing that won me on it was the shutter speed. Zero lag. On that thing, I clicked the screen, and that was the picture I got, no messing. Not so fast with the N5, but image quality wise, I can't fault it... It certainly knocks socks off my wife's galaxy nexus, and it is high quality enough to make me feel that I have no need for an actual camera for all my photoing needs. In fact, this video: http://youtu.be/Qp6clWG-b5c seems to mirror my experience with the camera here... not too shabby by my standards. I'm exceptionally pleased with the low light shots without a flash.... just the typical real life situation I find myself in when I want a photo!!
So... as the end of day 2 draws to a close, my battery life woes seem to be fading... stats like those in the attachments really give me hope... and that is still on the standard kernel and rom, although it is now rooted.
At the end of the day, when I made the choice for my next phone, my last two choices were between the N5, and LG G2... I made my N5 decision without viewing anything official through fear of it selling out. I pulled the trigger on this little sucker as soon as it went live in the play store (No way was I selling out to CPW for a 16gb) At the back of my mind, having the nexus device where I could play with all the dev's work won me over, compared to the only benefit I could see in the G2, the battery, and I'm happy to say that all feelings of doubt over whether I should have bought the G2 have gone. I'm happy with my nexus, and I feel that I will be for a long time to come. In fact, id go as far as to say, that despite the "development scene" being a major factor in my purchasing, the user experience is so good at this point, that I don't even want to flash any ROMs yet... I know the time will come for that, and that will provide me with good longevity for the device, but for now, the pure Google experience has it all... and at a bargain price too
With you, love the device.
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I'm really loving the device as well. Google did a hell of a job with 4.4. Can't wait for more custom roms!
Unlike so many others, I know how to keep my expectations in check. This phone is amazing for the money, nothing even comes close. In fact, even if it cost the same thing as my Xperia ZL ($600) it's still better.
Finally a thread that praises the Nexus 5
I swear all the threads in the last 2 days have been so depressing-- thank you for this man
ps. am also in love with Nexus 5
I think a lot of the negativity is coming from people that have the ability to buy a new phone four times a year so they're really not happy with anything. These people coming from the Moto X baffle me. I guess if you have the money to spend that's your prerogative, but it skews your perception of value. I'm coming from a One X that I bought on launch day and I'm still not eligible for an upgrade so the Nexus will be a nice bump up.
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I also get the feeling that there are a lot more new people who are hear to complain, much more than before. I got mine today and love everything about it. As much as I love my 2012 Nexus 4 & 7, this year's 5 & 7 have been outstanding.
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ComposMentis said:
I think a lot of the negativity is coming from people that have the ability to buy a new phone four times a year so they're really not happy with anything. These people coming from the Moto X baffle me. I guess if you have the money to spend that's your prerogative, but it skews your perception of value. I'm coming from a One X that I bought on launch day and I'm still not eligible for an upgrade so the Nexus will be a nice bump up.
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i bet you 100 dollars that the one x had better viewing angles lol
I upgrade three or four times a year.. But I think this is the greatest phone I've used yet. It helps to resell old devices to offset costs
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I dont know why you guys need 54543 threads to both praise and hate the device. There should not be a "Love" thread because nobody cares if you guys like it or not. People who like it will get it. And for this matter, you can write reviews in amazon or anyother place where people will actually care about what you say.
A nexus 5 review thread could be useful here but hey, I am no mod, just keep "lovin"!
Anyway, smart people usually wait and see the reviews-issues before they buy a device, you wont convince them to anything and the ones who buy the phone immediately usually dont care about opinions.
I am a potential buyer but I am rather interested to buy it much later, thats why I lurk here.
^ Well said.. Who cares if someone else likes it or not.
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I didn't think I was going to be as impressed as I actually am with this device. It is like a work of art. This is totally a flagship device. The build, screen quality and 4.4 what can be better then that. This is probably the first Nexus I would really recommend to someone wanting to try Android or even leave iOS. Usually I would always tell an older person to stick with their iPhone and a not so techy person who wants to go with Android to try an S4 or HTC One. Not this time. This device is the whole package.
Anyway, to much positive talk going on in here....This phone truly sucks.
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I dont know why you guys need 54543 threads to both praise and hate the device. There should not be a "Love" thread because nobody cares if you guys like it or not. People who like it will get it. And for this matter, you can write reviews in amazon or anyother place where people will actually care about what you say.
A nexus 5 review thread could be useful here but hey, I am no mod, just keep "lovin"!
Anyway, smart people usually wait and see the reviews-issues before they buy a device, you wont convince them to anything and the ones who buy the phone immediately usually dont care about opinions.
I am a potential buyer but I am rather interested to buy it much later, thats why I lurk here.
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Nicely said. Have Nexus 4, loving it. This Friday, Nexus 5, can't wait.
I have to say for all the trash being talked about the camera, I just took some low light pictures and was greatly impressed. Blew my S3 away.
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shadowcore said:
I dont know why you guys need 54543 threads to both praise and hate the device. There should not be a "Love" thread because nobody cares if you guys like it or not. People who like it will get it. And for this matter, you can write reviews in amazon or anyother place where people will actually care about what you say.
A nexus 5 review thread could be useful here but hey, I am no mod, just keep "lovin"!
Anyway, smart people usually wait and see the reviews-issues before they buy a device, you wont convince them to anything and the ones who buy the phone immediately usually dont care about opinions.
I am a potential buyer but I am rather interested to buy it much later, thats why I lurk here.
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Why not practice what you preach and keep your opinions to yourself?
Most definitely will love it specially when I get a custom ROM on it and add that pie control. I also would wish I had that control from the movie click which I could just click to November 8th on Friday already
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i dont get whats not to love about the device. you get top hardware for 300+ dollars. KitKat which is so fluid and a joy to use. i am loving every minute of having this phone. i had the lg g2 awesome phone sucky skin. note 3. awesome phone sucky unstable skin. overprices. wayyyyy over priced.
but yet instead of enjoying the device. they take it out of the box start shaking it. wiggling buttons. tapping on it. swinging there arms. taking it apart and putting paper inside LOL. i put a spigen case on it. with rubber buttons. no rattles no shakes. no nothing. and even if it did. i loveeeeeee this nexus. best yet. enjoy your phones people.
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I dont know why you guys need 54543 threads to both praise and hate the device. There should not be a "Love" thread because nobody cares if you guys like it or not. People who like it will get it. And for this matter, you can write reviews in amazon or anyother place where people will actually care about what you say.
A nexus 5 review thread could be useful here but hey, I am no mod, just keep "lovin"!
Anyway, smart people usually wait and see the reviews-issues before they buy a device, you wont convince them to anything and the ones who buy the phone immediately usually dont care about opinions.
I am a potential buyer but I am rather interested to buy it much later, thats why I lurk here.
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Nobody cares that you don't care about this thread.
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Nobody cares that you don't care about this thread.
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I never said that. I only said, nobody cares if you love it. People wiho care already know why they care and anyone of you can name those things.
Its like buying a porsche and saying: "I might aswell go in a forum and praise it!". Everybody knows why its good. You know, its also a part of sending a message. Maybe goog and LG should withhold the selling of the devices to "Fix" them, and release a revision. Like the Nexus 4 did with a bumper in the back.
You will get over it eventually....eventually.
But hey, I know the feeling. Having to praise the phone and others agreeing with you and boosting your self esteem. Yep, magical. Except that when you think about it, you kinda lose the charm when you realize that you are doing so because you are unsure if you have made the right decision. So you need some external confirmation.
Hey, if I could buy this phone, I would not complain about wiggly buttons, 1-2 dead pixels and so on, because how amaizing it is. I prefer to wait after Christmas.
Would have been nice if google wasn't that cheap to save on the speaker and wifi antenna.