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[Q] should i?

ok, soon i can get a new phone... thank god its about time... after a year of struggling with this hell of an device called the SE X10i o.0
now im lookin for a phone where the bootloader isnt that hard to crack xD
and came to the point of htc as many ppl told me to look at...
would you guys suggest me this phone, or should i wait a little longer for a different one?
and how is the life-time of the battery? (l0st.prophet posted that the battery lifetime is about 24hours, which sounds awesome, can more people confirm this please?)
tbh the speaker cant be worse than the one from the x10i so im not very worried about that xD
thanks in advanced for the reply's ^^

Well it depends really ?.....what i mean is that currently no root has been found so you will have to make do with the current stock rom....this is a major down side for me as i prefer stock android....other than that ...great little phone ....battery life is good does last alot longer than xperia which i had about 8 months ago and is also better than my desire hd which i also currently have....also speakers not bad at all....better then desire hd again. All in all its a nice little phone ...just no root yet

Speakers better than the DHD? Really? Sounded tinny and low quality to me durung the demo I had with the device ...

@menov, little? I though it would be the same size as the x10? Ty for replys
Sent from my X10i running 2.2 Xtremes-Cyanogen using XDA App

Hawkysoft said:
@menov, little? I though it would be the same size as the x10? Ty for replys
Sent from my X10i running 2.2 Xtremes-Cyanogen using XDA App
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little as in everything is little once you hold a desire hd lol....due to its 4.3 inch screen....but phones the same sort of size as the old desire.....dont think its as big as x10 though ....although most of the bulk of the x10 was from the frame.
As for speaker....it could be better ...but it is definitely a step or two up from desire HD as i did another test today and played two identical mp3 files ans you could here the incredible s alot more

.....just a quick post to say that put them side by side just now and they are both pretty much same size just DHD is a bit harder to hold and text with one hand.
Also although the incredible s is not that much louder...the music seems to have more depth. just thought id mention it

Look at later posts by me to see comparison images

Thanks allot mate for all your efforts
Sent from my X10i running 2.2 Xtremes-Cyanogen using XDA App

menov321 said:
Heres the Desire HD, Incredible S and Desire side by side..if it helps
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Thanks, that's a good guide. I tried the IS against the DHD in store and although they are not THAT much different in size they certainly feel it!
I have to say, the IS does look incredibly classy there ... very tempting!
Any chance of a pic with the screens on btw, maybe displaying the same page or something?
If anyone has any sample images from the IS I would also be very interested to see those.

I just pre ordered a Inc S here in Denmark, and i should recieve it at the start of april.
I have a HTC HD2 with Android NAND now, so im looking forward to run original Android soon.
Hop that perm root its ready then and that there will be more accessories avalible in april.

jkolner said:
Hop that perm root its ready then and that there will be more accessories avalible in april.
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I'm hopefully gonna be getting some help from an experianced dev on the rooting front, and I have contacted HTC about what accessories will be avalible and when (I personally want a car dock and desktop cradle) so I will post as soon as I get a reply

I am actually surprised that this phone hasn't been rooted already - even with the relatively short time it's been available.
I hope this isn't a sign that the devs are going to pass on this one - I'd like to see a LeeDroid rom for it and would be gutted to think it won't benefit from the support the Desire / DHD gets.

Edited Pics as was causing crashes on some browsers due to image size...should be a post further on...showing pics

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Apologies for resolution size....bit OTT lol If you want to view image just right click and press view image...for better perspective
also these are just a rough guide....as i took these half alseep last night...
Bit of glare on the desire at the end...sorry...
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Bigger is better - but i still prefer the Incredibel S ;-)

Thanks for the pics menov321.
The one of all three really demo's the difference between the DHD And the other two. The colours of the IS make the DHD look terrible. Can we assume that all settings on each are as close as can be to each other and this is exactly the same image background loaded onto each.
If so that's quite some demonstration of the poor quality of the DHD screen!
I'd be interested to see comparison pics of the DHD and IS displaying a graphic heavy website and also a video file or something paused to show the blacks and the contrast. I realise that's a tall order though -maybe I should just get one! lol

exactly the same image file used as just dropped the image onto each sd card of each phone ...and screen brightness is turned to full on all phones

Again i removed images as were too big..

@menov321
Would be nice if you could resize the images in your post. Or add them as attachment. Some of us are still using old mobile browsers you know

hahah...ok
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xspyda said:
Speakers better than the DHD? Really? Sounded tinny and low quality to me durung the demo I had with the device ...
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Yes IS speakers is really better than DHD.

how to eliminate the "mist " problem in 2x Camera

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSOoubjP9U4
any apps or can us adjust the camera firmware?

ygvuhb said:
any apps or can us adjust the camera firmware?
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Heard that it's mainly the presets that mess up the image. At least with pictures, manual settings prove to make way better pictures. So do your own whitebalance, lower the brightness a bit.

Indeed heared the same thing. On an other forum someone posted 2 pictures 1 with the auto settings and 1 with manual settings and you really saw the huge different in quaility.
I have attachted the 2 pictures in quesiton. You can see the difference for yourself.

the difference on these two pictures could also be, that on manual setting the sun is behind (southeast) him and on auto setting the sun is infront (northeast) of him. It would be better if we get some pictures taken in a row.

Interesting stuff. Would love to see some more comparison shots, as the poor reviews for the camera is one of the things putting me off this phone.

Pitbull09 said:
the difference on these two pictures could also be, that on manual setting the sun is behind (southeast) him and on auto setting the sun is infront (northeast) of him. It would be better if we get some pictures taken in a row.
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Indeed but when you look at the shadow of the car you see it moved a bit. But the rest of the picture is way better i'll try to do some tests of my own tommorow afternoon.

You could try Vignette, it's in the market. Camera app replacement. There is a free demo available
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

@ all the owners:
Could you please test the camera with photos and videos and finally clarify once forever these ''mist problems'' ?
Just if its possible to fix with some software adjustments or its an hardware problem...
Thanks

Ah... yeah I really hate that "mist-effect" too. It's the main reason why I'm considering Not buying the 2X and wait for 3D and hope that they've fixed that issue...
I read a review on phonearena.com and they showed a colorfilter called "vivid" which increased the contrast quite alot. That fixed the "mist" problem but then I think the contrast is a bit too high there. But definitely MUCH better.
Anyone know if it's possible to adjust the contrast in the cam app?

Lumix90 said:
Ah... yeah I really hate that "mist-effect" too. It's the main reason why I'm considering Not buying the 2X and wait for 3D and hope that they've fixed that issue...
I read a review on phonearena.com and they showed a colorfilter called "vivid" which increased the contrast quite alot. That fixed the "mist" problem but then I think the contrast is a bit too high there. But definitely MUCH better.
Anyone know if it's possible to adjust the contrast in the cam app?
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I've seen some pics taken with the 3D, also has the same problemm

LG know there's an issue with the auto settings. And as you can see, if you set it up manually the pictures are just fine. So just wait for a small update, and the issue will be fixed....No biggie really, and defo not HW related.

Pitbull09 said:
the difference on these two pictures could also be, that on manual setting the sun is behind (southeast) him and on auto setting the sun is infront (northeast) of him. It would be better if we get some pictures taken in a row.
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I took the pictures, so let me nip that in the bud.
The pictures were taken in north eastern direction and indeed there is some difference in time when I took them (1st auto settings: 13:00 and 2nd manual setting 14:30). But there was no sunlight directly in the lens and I used my hand to drop a shadow. Before I took both photos I cleaned the lens cover thoroughly.
As supported by other users: the automatic settings tend to overexpose and the automatic white balance is just miles off. I am sure LG will fix this in a future update and otherwise I'll just keep setting it up manually as I do with my dslr.

MLMNewBreed said:
otherwise I'll just keep setting it up manually as I do with my dslr.
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can you tell us which settings you changed and to what you changed it?
because from my opinion it does make a good improvement to the auto settings.
thx in advance

To make photo quality better and less blurred - just turn "Stabilization" - "Off".
But it's make sense only for photo mode, video still no solution.

mikeymika said:
can you tell us which settings you changed and to what you changed it?
because from my opinion it does make a good improvement to the auto settings.
thx in advance
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I didn't do more than change the white balance to "sunlight" and underexpose two stops. The under/over -expose function is the "+/-" -sign in the first menu when you press the screen in camera mode. Under exposing is only recommended on a bright day. The biggest improvment is the whitebalance, stay away from the "automatic" -setting.
I am very impressed by all the camera setup options on this phone!

And what about the video? Are they fine?

Hi
I have ordered the 2x and uses a Desire now.
It had the same problem initially.
After first removing the grease (from production) on the lens and on the backside of the protective plastic, the pictures was fully useable.
Later on I removed the easy scratched protective plastic altogether and problem solved.

runeo said:
Hi
I have ordered the 2x and uses a Desire now.
It had the same problem initially.
After first removing the grease (from production) on the lens and on the backside of the protective plastic, the pictures was fully useable.
Later on I removed the easy scratched protective plastic altogether and problem solved.
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Can it be removed easily?

Miracle1980 said:
And what about the video? Are they fine?
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I haven't tried out video yet, but it uses the same setup options. So my guess is that video suffers from the same issues with automatic white balance.
morckx said:
Can it be removed easily?
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If I understand the post correctly, he was refering to the HTC Desire.

MLMNewBreed said:
If I understand the post correctly, he was refering to the HTC Desire.
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Just try to clean the lens to begin with, and inspect the protection!

Sony SmartWatch MN2

Just bought it today. At the moment I very happy.
Guys just want to ask some one who has it.
When I shaking my watch the screen going to ON. It's supposed to be like that ?
Update:
Yes. Sony confirm is made to be easy check the time

avetny said:
Just bought it today. At the moment I very happy.
Guys just want to ask some one who has it.
When I shaking my watch the screen going to ON. It's supposed to be like that ?
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no.... that's a faulty product. should have waited for the pebble watch.

sharp2G said:
no.... that's a faulty product. should have waited for the pebble watch.
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did you have it ? or you just saying no

Congrats for buying a cheap and weak watch!
See this and get your own conclusions:
http://jims-empire.com/2012/04/sony-smartwatch-torn-down-and-dissected-wishes-it-were-a-pebble/
Next time remember to view a review of it instead of spending loads of money in something that it isn't worth it!
Btw, i'm not being sarcastic

zylor said:
Congrats for buying a cheap and weak watch!
See this and get your own conclusions:
http://jims-empire.com/2012/04/sony-smartwatch-torn-down-and-dissected-wishes-it-were-a-pebble/
Next time remember to view a review of it instead of spending loads of money in something that it isn't worth it!
Btw, i'm not being sarcastic
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hahaha
I gonna buy that watch also (pebble)...money is problem just for you. Not for me.
Sony is not CHIP brand. I do not want to wear a watch which is named "pebble" with black and white display !? WTF is that ? We got Multi-touch color OLED display
-Sony WATCH cost 150 bucks...what do you accept to see inside kid? GOLD ?
I checked all stores...(main web site also) the items out of stock.
No bad feedback's about latest (MN2) generation...why so negative man?
You have it ? NO.
Where you got your experiences from ? From John? hahahah Who cares what inside.... is Sony not pebble...
Were you saw bad feedback's ? (the watch working so smooth and fast)

I bought Smartwatch 3 days ago, i confirm that it works well, without any problem. Don't have any bluetooth disconnection, notifications work "in time", battery is as it should be, fully charged it on day 1, no need to plug in again at the moment.
Need more time to test it and keep my opinion to say if it's really stable and a good product.
Regarding my phone's battery, when i check battery stats, Smartwatch use 4% so i think it's reasonable.

Sony Smartwatch
Just to let others know I have now had this watch a little under a week.....My impression so far is good.....it does exactly what it says it will .......with NO disconnections(unlike its predessecor the live view which always lost the connection and barely worked). All programs work well and the device speed is surpisingly good too(switching between screens and widgets etc). My only complaint is brightness there is no way to set it and in daylight it is hard to read the screen.

I got my sony smartwatch 6 days ago and the last charge was 4 days ago. So no problem with the battery. Yes the screen does come on when i shake it which is pretty convenient i think.
Sony's watch is more of a remote viewer and notifier. It doesnt use its own android system it uses the phones i think so it may not be fair to compare it to other smart watches that have android running on them. It is a lot cheap than others at the moment.
I'm using it with a Xperia S and the bluetooth only uses 3%. If i have all the notification it can do turned on then it only lasts 14 hours. With just text and email its managing 30 hours quite nicely
Hope this helps anyone.

just a quick question sir, how do you set the screen brightness? i've looked everywhere but yet to locate the settings?

zylor said:
Congrats for buying a cheap and weak watch!
See this and get your own conclusions:
http://jims-empire.com/2012/04/sony-smartwatch-torn-down-and-dissected-wishes-it-were-a-pebble/
Next time remember to view a review of it instead of spending loads of money in something that it isn't worth it!
Btw, i'm not being sarcastic
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Pebble is ridden with deceptive marketing.
For example, "e-paper" display? Please do not confuse with e-ink display.
The "e-paper" display is just regular black and white pixel LCD (not different from those already in use in today's digital watches).
And now let's look at what is inside a pebble shall we?
Micron N25Q032A11ESE40F 32 Mb serial flash
STMicroelectronics STM32F205RE high-performance ARM Cortex-M3 MCU, with a maximum speed of 120 MHz
STMicroelectronics LIS3DH 3-axis accelerometer
144 x 168 pixel black and white LCD
Spring buttons for navigation
Full plastic construction
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Compare this with the Smartwatch
- CPU: STM32F205RG (120MHz)
- RAM: 128KB
- Flash: 1MB (For firmware only, apps are stored on the phone, not on the watch like pebble)
- OS: uC/OS-II
- BlueTooth: Yes (3.0)
- Fm Radio: Yes (disabled)
- LCD: 1.3" OLED
- Res: 128 x 128
- Touchscreen: Yes (Capacitive)
- Brushed Aluminium housing
- Battery - 110mAh
Just looking at the cost of components alone (let's ignore the fact that Smartwatch already has hundred of apps while the pebble can only display one notification at a time and has a silly snake game as an app...), Smartwatch is a better choice by far.
The curious part of it is they use the exact same processor.

avetny said:
Just bought it today. At the moment I very happy.
Guys just want to ask some one who has it.
When I shaking my watch the screen going to ON. It's supposed to be like that ?
Update:
Yes. Sony confirm is made to be easy check the time
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Yes it does i have one you can also double tap sreen to wake it dependent on watch face uesing hope this helps
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Screen has got a yellow tint after warming

finally I got my nexus 4 :good:
It looks very good:
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The browsing is good and fast, the pages looks really good, and I like the chrome browser
The colours are pretty good, especially the white:
But!!
after some browsing, or benchmark (when the phone is warming a bit)
It gets yellow tint the left side on the screen (maybe not only there, but there is the most recognisable):
I don't find this is a good product from LG.
I hope this is not usual...but personally I'm disappointed :crying:

Looks like the glue spot issues the One X had/still has...
It's to do with how the screen is glued to the LCD.
I really cba going through issues similar to the One X's launch again, that device had a horrendous hardware launch.

Are you in Europe and did you buy this from an EU carrier? If so, it would seem that LG diverted units from Google to go to other vendors. Google actually had to cancel announced plans to sell the Nexus 4 via Playstore in the Netherlands and Belgium at the very last minute because LG couldn't deliver units. I suspect LG's reputation isn't going to be helped by the disastrous launch of this phone. Google deserves to share the criticism too. (There's a rumor that LG delivered only 5,000 units to Google, but then rumors aren't substantiated and it may well be false. However, the UK Playstore sold out in under an hour and the US Playstore was sold out in under a half and hour so it sounds like there weren't a lot of phones available.)

Yeah this definitely looks like the issue that one x had with their launch. Not good!

Christ almighty, this phone is Frankenstein resurrected. How many things went wrong/are wrong again!? I can't keep track anymore. Worst f-cking phone EVER. Sucks it looks so good though.

didn't the iphone 5 have the same issue and stated for users to wait untill the glue cures completely and the yellow tint should go ?

W T F
I'm really curious what will expect me when I open the packaging of this phone...

meangreenie said:
didn't the iphone 5 have the same issue and stated for users to wait untill the glue cures completely and the yellow tint should go ?
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Yes thats what I read about it too.

meangreenie said:
didn't the iphone 5 have the same issue and stated for users to wait untill the glue cures completely and the yellow tint should go ?
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Here you go: http://www.cultofmac.com/192299/does-your-iphone-5-screen-seem-yellow-dont-worry-overmuch/

Had that on my Nexus S i9023. It's the glue. When heated it turns yellow.

I´m curious because none of the reviewer phones had this problem and they benchmarked the phone a lot etc..

agabe said:
finally I got my nexus 4 :good:
It looks very good:
The browsing is good and fast, the pages looks really good, and I like the chrome browser
The colours are pretty good, especially the white:
But!!
after some browsing, or benchmark (when the phone is warming a bit)
It gets yellow tint the left side on the screen (maybe not only there, but there is the most recognisable):
I don't find this is a good product from LG.
I hope this is not usual...but personally I'm disappointed :crying:
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If you press down on the screen (on the yellow patch as if reviving a dead pixel), does the yellow patch disfigure? Could be some glue that hasn't set in properly yet...leave it overnight and see if it disappears

Well, if it's after the benchmarks, it means it either got so hot that physically damaged lcd, or just helped glue to evaporate faster than it should. I suggest not pushing it for the first few days cpu wise, let everything dry out as much as possible naturally.

Crenshaw-PCGH said:
I´m curious because none of the reviewer phones had this problem and they benchmarked the phone a lot etc..
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indeed, I wonder if the networks (O2..etc got a bad batch of phones...). I bought mine from Google Play earlier today and now I'm scared for my life and hoping that LG didn't screw mass production of this amazing phone up...

On the section 3.5 of Screen section of the French review from frandroid.com here :
http://www.frandroid.com/test/116648_test-du-nexus-4/2/#3
You can see photos of the yellow tint. The text translated from French :
"After some testing, we noticed a weird behavior of the screen on a white background. A blue light escapes from the top of the screen. Moreover, a yellow spot appears. It's sometimes difficult to notice at first sight. Knowing the hardware we have is final, this is very worrisome."

I think it's the same like sony xperia-s screen.
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On the section 3.5 of Screen section of the French review from frandroid.com here :
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yes...it looks like mine, but another place on the screen.

Dang.......
Do they always have problem in the nexus line...

I live in the UK and what worries my is, where do I have to post my N4 if I have issues?
This could get expensive if I have to keep posting it back to the US.

Barso1 said:
I live in the UK and what worries my is, where do I have to post my N4 if I have issues?
This could get expensive if I have to keep posting it back to the US.
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Don't be silly, it will be dealt with locally
Just call Google support.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the RED Hydrogen One, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the RED Hydrogen One is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Pretty much everyone in the Houdini program (pre-release testing) appear to just **love** their device.

I've had mine for about two weeks now and have grown to absolutely love it! While the industrial design may be a stark departure for some, the scalloped edges make me feel really comfortable not using a case. Its really clear that this device is well built.
It runs a fairly stock version of Android 8.1, and I receive OS updates every few days to address bug fixes. Funny thing is, I haven't witnessed any bugs myself. While it's not an SD845, most users won't be able to tell the difference at all. This thing FLIES! I think until the next snapdragon SOC shrinks down a bit to single digit nm size, the performance gains won't be significant enough for users to really be measurably different in real world tasks.
Battery life is bonkers! I'm constantly demoing the device at full brightness for several hours a day, and on those days will end with about 40% life left. On my "off days" of regular use, I will typically only get to about 60-65% by the end of the night. I'm quite comfortable saying this will last some users two days.
The camera is fantastic as well! I looked it up in AIDA and it doesn't say who makes them, but the specs say 12.3 MP and 1.55 μm cell size. There's a few devices on the market with the exact same specs and both are praised for their camera prowess. I think what makes this one so awesome is the spacing between the cameras, which makes for the awesome 4-View holographic effect but also creates an awesome depth of field mode. I'll see if I can post some samples later today. The 4-View screen is something you just have to see. I won't bother explaining it, but I'll say that adding depth to photos makes me feel like a great photographer, even though I'm typically best outfitted with a potato cam.

Just got this phone. Loving it! When can we root it? Come on, guys! Chop Chop!

StormCell said:
Just got this phone. Loving it! When can we root it? Come on, guys! Chop Chop!
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I just got my 2nd unit; so, I can start to experiment a little.
BUT, I have a *lot* to learn as my last Android device started
in KitKat and runs Nougat today. From a cursory look, quite
a bit has changed since then with a/b updates and the like.
Oh, and finding time for these experiments is another issue...

It's rootable but we need to get the bootloader unlocked. I'm going to ask Red if I can get the key. Will update once that happens.
LP

LucKyPunk said:
It's rootable but we need to get the bootloader unlocked. I'm going to ask Red if I can get the key. Will update once that happens.
LP
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OEM unlocking is in Dev options...

StormCell said:
OEM unlocking is in Dev options...
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Yes I am aware... But my "houdini" unit needs a fastboot code. We're you able to unlock yours, without?
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Yeah, not yet. Rooting have been some time for me as I had an iPhone for a while and just switched back. Kinda learning again. But I did send a message to a RED team member asking for the unlock code so we'll see.

Just got mine today does anyone know how to take portrait mode pics. PS love it so far

I just installed the pixel 3 camera app and OMG does it unlock the potential of this phone.

LucKyPunk said:
It's rootable but we need to get the bootloader unlocked. I'm going to ask Red if I can get the key. Will update once that happens.
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If you bought directly from RED they will send you the Key to unlock. Hopefully you can work your magic with that. They are not allowed by contract to do that with Carrier phones.

fayth22 said:
I just installed the pixel 3 camera app and OMG does it unlock the potential of this phone.
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You installed it on the RED ONE? How can you shoot 4V with that?

No you can't shoot 4v with the pixel camera app

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I just installed the pixel 3 camera app and OMG does it unlock the potential of this phone.
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I tried various versions but couldn't get it going, can you post a link to the one that works?

update all Red apps, and you can take portrait or landscape front and back

Good morning Red One users. I have an opportunity to purchase one of these from AT&T and was wondering if anyone can confirm that the speaker has gotten better for hands-free calling. I'm basing this off of a YouTuber who said he cannot hold phone conversations over speakerphone without the other party saying they can't understand him so he has to switch to handset. I've had a chance to see the demo and the AT&T store and they have only one left and they're holding it for me until close today.
I did notice when I was in the AT&T store looking at the demo I noticed the LG I was currently using had all of its signal bars but the hydrogen only had about 3. So I'm wondering if anyone has had any signal issues or drop coverage. I know this depends on your cellphone provider towers locations. Just wondering if anyone saw any drop off in cellphone coverage from previous devices?

I have both the AT&T version as well as the unlocked Titanium. Both operate on the AT&T network without issue. The signal bar has never dropped below half that I'm aware of and I have not had coverage issues even while traveling.