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After watching several videos of it battling the Siri of iOS while I was awaiting my tablet, I was hyped about using this feature.
Now that I have had my tablet for almost almost a week now, it was overhyped and the accuracy was overblown in those videos on YouTube.
I know it's not my accent, since it gets my questions correctly, it just doesn't answer 'em.
I tried simple stuff too, like requesting for the current score of USA vs Korea in volleyball (when the game was going on), requesting for specific train times, requesting to see my calendar, asking it to see if I was busy on a certain day and time, and it just Google'd these questions, not telling me the answers (especially the last one; it Google'd "Am I busy at 4pm on this coming Monday?" instead of showing my calendar).
Hell even the simplest things like "show me my calendar" has it Googling that, and not actually showing me my calendar.
I've only ever successfully gotten it to tell me the weather, the time, set alarm, and tell me when the Olympics 2012 ends.
If Google Voice Search (or w/e they call it) is this bad, I wonder how bad Siri is, seeing how in those videos, Google beat Siri all the time.
Had a guy at work playing around with Siri, not very impressing, certainly nothing like the staged commercials. Technology is not there yet. I think that Dragon has a better voice recognition ability, (part of Swype Beta), but I have not played with their "Dragon Go" yet on my tablet. Didn't care for it much on my phone.
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After watching several videos of it battling the Siri of iOS while I was awaiting my tablet, I was hyped about using this feature.
Now that I have had my tablet for almost almost a week now, it was overhyped and the accuracy was overblown in those videos on YouTube.
I know it's not my accent, since it gets my questions correctly, it just doesn't answer 'em.
I tried simple stuff too, like requesting for the current score of USA vs Korea in volleyball (when the game was going on), requesting for specific train times, requesting to see my calendar, asking it to see if I was busy on a certain day and time, and it just Google'd these questions, not telling me the answers (especially the last one; it Google'd "Am I busy at 4pm on this coming Monday?" instead of showing my calendar).
Hell even the simplest things like "show me my calendar" has it Googling that, and not actually showing me my calendar.
I've only ever successfully gotten it to tell me the weather, the time, set alarm, and tell me when the Olympics 2012 ends.
If Google Voice Search (or w/e they call it) is this bad, I wonder how bad Siri is, seeing how in those videos, Google beat Siri all the time.
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Siri answers a lot more of those types of questions, although it is definitely slower as the videos point out. Overall though, I rarely ask those questions anyways. I generally only ask about sports scores and weather or conversions, and a few more things.
I think they are both good at different things. Most of the YouTube videos I've seen seem to show of Google Nows speed a bit much. Hopefully what Google Now lacks.. now, it will make up for in later updates, assuming they are not harassed by Apple too much more.
I'd also like to mention that Google Now is not in any way a clone or copy of Siri. Voice recognition and human-like feedback have been strived towards since even before the USS-Enterprises computer did it in early Star-Trek Apple, or anyone recently claiming it was 'their idea' should be shot in the foot.
Didn't Google have to 'dumb' down their voice app because of the lawsuit Apple had against the Galaxy Nexus?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/29/apple-lands-preliminary-ban-against-samsung-galaxy-nexus/
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Apple, or anyone recently claiming it was 'their idea' should be shot in the foot.
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In the foot? I can think of another, less elegant location.
Is does work alot better than siri in alot of ways, then again this stuff was available since froyo. I believe Google said all those features are coming back
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Didn't Google have to 'dumb' down their voice app because of the lawsuit Apple had against the Galaxy Nexus?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/29/apple-lands-preliminary-ban-against-samsung-galaxy-nexus/
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They removed local search (i.e., showing apps and contacts, etc., along with off-device search) from ALL on-device search, because it was the integrated search functionality specifically that was the patent that the judge found most likely to be upheld. Not related directly to voice.
But atleast Google now is better then S voice lol, I removed it from my G note.... For some reason it never worked for me : /
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I think it's pretty good, it's very accurate for me even in noisy environments.
It's just not very complex in it's abilities, which I agree with a member above is due to it being young technology rather than overrated per say.
As it's part of my phone and I use it more, I still find Siri far more frustrating and inaccurate. Oddly a series of jailbreaks make it far more capable and I'm wondering if we'll ever see similar hacking on Android.
Somewhat related, I'm just glad Google allows for offline dictation as there's nothing more annoying than a voice assistant telling you it's unavailable because you're in bad service area.
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It's just not very complex in it's abilities, which I agree with a member above is due to it being young technology rather than overrated per say.
As it's part of my phone and I use it more, I still find Siri far more frustrating and inaccurate. Oddly a series of jailbreaks make it far more capable and I'm wondering if we'll ever see similar hacking on Android.
Somewhat related, I'm just glad Google allows for offline dictation as there's nothing more annoying than a voice assistant telling you it's unavailable because you're in bad service area.
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Well, if not for the insanity that is Apple, it would have much more capabilities, but I find it pretty easy to use, accurate, and despite local search, pretty good.
Lolz, why people always believe that Apple make new things every time and now calling this Google now a siri clone.
Having used both siri and Google now, I think both are different and have different strength points and Google now doing more work than siri. Siri is more vocal though.
People think S voice is bad but I have found it more useful than siri and it can do device functions as well which siri can't.
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Google now isn't a siri clone and wasn't created to be one. Although I will admit that Google now works a lot better on my galaxy nexus, Google Now is pretty amazing. I love when I'm out somewhere that it tells me how much traffic I will have on my way home and will give me better directions.
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As somebody already said, the voice recognition is accurate but it just doesn't give you 'local' results. I tried to get it to display a book I have in Play Books or music in Play Music but it wouldn't open those apps. I use SpeakToIt Assistant, which seems to be much better at playing your music, reading calendar, sending SMS's (on my Sensation), etc.
I think it runs better actually... Tried it out next to an iPhone 4s and asked them both the questions at the same time and my Gnex blew it out of the water
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I think it runs better actually... Tried it out next to an iPhone 4s and asked them both the questions at the same time and my Gnex blew it out of the water
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Yes, I agree
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The OP complains mostly about calendar integration...which I agree ought to be included. It will, however, schedule reminders using alarms. I hope this isn't yet another patent issue....especially since voice commands have been in the works for years on multiple platforms. Heck, back in the 80s I had my Amiga executing various commands by voice...even telling me the time using Majel Roddenberry's voice after a 'computer. Time please' command. I programmed a bunch of voice commands using AREXX.
I find the voice feature very useful. On my galaxy nexus I asked it to call home depot and it called the nearest store and offered navigation and eta. It really makes for the ultimate hands free navigaion/calling system. It responds very quickly as well.
I would like it to SAY more. And I would pay good money if it sounded like Majel Roddenberry.
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I know that for people in the UK you have to tick the box for it to search from Google.com opposed to co.uk, otherwise it wont bring up pictures and certain cards (as answers to questions).
Also, change the language to english (US) to get the cute female voice opposed to our British male, ha.
But overall, nothing like the Youtube video where the guy asks 74 odd questions on Google Now. When i try, it just searches the same question...
Android 4.2 doesn't even seem well thought out, let alone designed. Is Google playing the Apple game, tying us into their universe and making us take whatever the deliver?
Do they even care how many apps won't work or have to have multiple purchases to support their multi-user "security"? Should have just left the multi-user thing to 3rd party devs. They fail on this, IMO.
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Android 4.2 doesn't even seem well thought out, let alone designed. Is Google playing the Apple game, tying us into their universe and making us take whatever the deliver?
Do they even care how many apps won't work or have to have multiple purchases to support their multi-user "security"? Should have just left the multi-user thing to 3rd party devs. They fail on this, IMO.
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Google doesn't care.. Remember when 4.1.1 broke a bunch of paid apps by sticking them in the asec folder which wasn't mounted at startup? So since it wasn't mounted Android never saw the apps during boot and paid keyboards and widgets disappeared after a reboot. MONTHS went by before it was addressed. Meanwhile developers of those paid apps had angry customers and money lost because of Google
This will be the same song and dance.. Google is getting very sloppy with development and communication with developers pre-release seems to not exist.
I love it.
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Lets keep personal opinions about users from different nations to yourself. This is a development forum, not a place to vent personal feelings. Now keep it on topic.
Stop stereotyping. People are always so quick to hate on Americans. Yes there are bad Americans...but every country has them. Even your country. But I'm not going to go there since I happen to like most people from the UK that I've encountered...it would be unfair to label your entire nation as arrogant, ungrateful, and judgmental because of your behavior.
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I love it.
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Seriously how is the "I love it" on topic or not a personal feeling?
Anyway thanks for the clean up
But still I agree with the OP. Google is becoming arrogant, sloppy and in its quest to be more user friendly making fiends of the ppl that were with them from version 1.
So what is the problem? I am only one person using my nexus and I haven't run into any issues.
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4.2 works fine for me. A few bugs here and there but you can't expect everything to be perfect. Google getting arrogant? Please. Sloppy? I'd say they are spread a bit thin with all the projects they have going on.
Google is run by humans. Android developers are humans. Humans make errors. Not too complicated.
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well its not about the bugs, bugs can be forgiven.
System works fine...
Its about their behavior
For me personally that I can't mount my USB stick, or lost tablet mode means that I downgraded to 4.1.2 back.
Today is Thursday. The sun will still shine Friday
Humm ..
Its called growing pains. Sometimes you have to take a STEP Back to move two bigger steps foreword. I see so much talk about this is not there that is buggy. Yes we get it.. But what i am seeing mostly is app compatibility Being Broke.. This is something that will be fixed Quickly by most Developers.
Android is and always will be "A WORK IN PROGRESS". My opinion only but if you want bland and safe sell your nexus 7 to me for .50 cents and get a ipad mini.
People who are having issues Please go to the developers web site and let them know your app is not working properly .Give them exact details. You can do the same to google at groups.google.com. Just be Patient
Now my GRIPE The multi user cluster (word here im not typing) as others said was not well though through by google. My guess is they made a date promise and pushed out only part of the Feature.. Typical Google.
It will get better and it will happen quite soon.. Lets just hope...
Take a deep breath relax and say to yourself.. Its only a tablet its only a tablet its only a toy tablet... ..
Thanks for Reading... :fingers-crossed:
I suppose YMMV, but I love 4.2. Smoother than 4.1, and nice features. The only thing that really seems half-assed is the multiuser support.
What is your problem with multi-user? For me and my daughter it is working great - could not be better.
I did add my account to her user ID Play store so she could see the apps we own and install the link.
Performance is good - all our preferences and accounts are separated - and I really can't think of any other features I would want.
I did add my account to her user ID Play store so she could see the apps we own and install the link.
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I haven't played with multi-user yet, can you add the account just for the play store and not have someone access the gmail account associated with it?
That's my gripe, I want to be able to for ex, have my nephew play with my tablet and all the games etc, but don't want him to access to my gmail etc. I thought this was perfect for that but then read about the app issue. Also, I assume there is no type of limited user, in that a secondary account can still uninstall apps, but at least they can't delete files from the other users home dir.
Yes - my account is just added to my daughter's play store. Open play store and look at add account option.
Works perfectly to give her access to the apps we share.
NO shared Gmail.
Forgot something important:
When you add a second account to play store, you are given a bunch of items you can synch, like contacts.
Uncheck them all!
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i had a valid post in this thread, it seems to have been removed ........yet you left the dude saying "love it".
cheers for that :confused
and im sorry but why has this guy just been thanked by 10 people? the post has nothing to do with anything...... shenanigans shenanigans i tells ya!!:silly:
Stick mount wasn't a feature of 4.1. It was hacked in which is why you had to be rooted and use an app. You'll get USB support again. Multiuser support screwed with the storage. That's all.
New tweaks are a little rough around the edges but will be smoothed out soon enough. Give it time, damn guys. I personally think its no better or worse then 4.1.2. We just have a few new toys now.
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4.2 = 1st time I've truly experienced "butter"...
Sure, I kinda miss the bells & whistles I had on Codename Android, and I'll definitely check out any forthcoming 4.2 updates, but scrosler's stock, rooted, deodexed ROM is far & away the smoothest, quickest ROM I've used on any Android device. Stock kernel, no tweaks, plain vanilla is for me for now. Way better Google experience. OK, I sideloaded the AOSP browser for Flash, but that's it. Chrome is much more responsive on 4.2 than 4.1.2 - Everything is noticeably quicker - I even detect better wireless response. Your results may vary, but I'm not going back!
[/COLOR]If you are unhappy just roll back to 4.1.2. This isn't iOS. You can downgrade all you want.[/QUOTE]
Please tell me how, not rooted?
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Am I the only one that has multiple apps that crash and all kinds of problems? Hell even the Youtube app crashes, i am so pissed i want a refund on this tablet they ruined or i want 4.1.2 back grrrrrrrrrr
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If you are unhappy just roll back to 4.1.2. This isn't iOS. You can downgrade all you want.
Please tell me how, not rooted?
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Wouldn't a factory image flashing work?
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Wouldn't a factory image flashing work?
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HMy guess is they made a date promise and pushed out only part of the Feature.. Typical Google.
It will get better and it will happen quite soon.. Lets just hope...
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Well, I do belive that you are right. I also feared (and expected, to tell the truth) that something EXACTLY like this would happen. I tried NOT to update the system, but why the hell did they keep forcing it when we obvoiusly do not want it? And probably, they must have known that it will broke a lot of things...
Just to explain: for me, there was a message with three buttons: upgrade, more info (which leads to seme text and bigger "upgrade" button and "later", but that "later" means only "ask at next screen unlock" which made the tablet realy hard to use. So, what choice have I had?
A good number of interesting upgrades and enhancements were announced at the opening day of the Google I/O conference, but I am very surprised how wrong the Technology press was with their predictions regarding 2nd gen Nexus 7, Babel, Android 4.3, etc.
Additional announcements are possible, but I doubt it.
Maybe these reporters/bloggers just make stuff up to drive traffic to their sites to bump up ad revenue.
Who ever these tech reporters were getting their info from must have zero cred now. I guess its time for them to cultivate new sources.
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Maybe these reporters/bloggers just make stuff up to drive traffic to their sites to bump up ad revenue.
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No maybe about it. Very little you read on the internet has any basis on reality. I feel sorry for those that believe it.
I'm sure there working on all these things. Maybe its not the time. Also I/O isnt over yet
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You mean the blogs making **** up? This surprises you?
Blogs are often more wrong than right. But they win no matter what because they want you to read their side of the story.
I don't know, the leaks surrounding the iPhone 5 were for the most part pretty bang on. Same with other Apple products, and they are known for their secrecy. I agree that the rumors were way off, even considering that they were just...well...rumors. Maybe 4.3 is coming soon, who knows...
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I don't know, the leaks surrounding the iPhone 5 were for the most part pretty bang on. Same with other Apple products, and they are known for their secrecy. I agree that the rumors were way off, even considering that they were just...well...rumors. Maybe 4.3 is coming soon, who knows...
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Uhhh no, the first rumors for the iPhone 5 were way off. The iPhone 5 was supposed to have a totally revamped design with a larger screen and a rounder design. Instead we got the iPhone 4S which looked exactly like the iPhone 4 and it wasn't until next year that the iPhone 5 came out.
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I don't know, the leaks surrounding the iPhone 5 were for the most part pretty bang on. Same with other Apple products, and they are known for their secrecy. I agree that the rumors were way off, even considering that they were just...well...rumors. Maybe 4.3 is coming soon, who knows...
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I think Apple leaks a lot of their stuff out so people aren't disappointed which would cause their stock price to go down. I think Google's stock price is actually based in reality and not speculation like Apples (this is why Apple's dropped 50% in the last couple months).
An upgraded Nexus 7 was impractical I think just from a cost benefit perspective. I don't think there was any chance of KLP coming out when a lot of people just got JB upgrades.
I do like a lot of the developer stuff that was announced. I am so happy that there is now a way to beta and alpha test apps and app updates both from a dev and user perspective.
You can't really compare "early" leaks of the iPhone to leaks just days before Google I/O. By the time the iPhone was released, the tech sites had the iPhone 5 pegged.
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Who knows if the sites got bad Intel or made stuff up to get hits or maybe they was right but Google ran in to snags and the stuff wasn't ready and they didn't want to release stuff that wasn't ready yet. In the end it doesn't really matter and like they say if you want to know the truth get it from the horses mouth. You can tell Google has something planned when they phased out the 16 gig nexus. It was like when they phased out the 8 gig version when the 32 gig came out. I hope they come out with a CDMA version of the nexus 4. I know its a pipe dream after what Verizon did to the galaxy nexus. Its interesting to see what Google has planned for the near future.
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They are always wrong. They kept on getting the unveiling of the Nexus 10 wrong last year.
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They are always wrong. They kept on getting the unveiling of the Nexus 10 wrong last year.
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How so?
I thought they were pretty spot on.
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Who knows if the sites got bad Intel or made stuff up to get hits or maybe they was right but Google ran in to snags and the stuff wasn't ready and they didn't want to release stuff that wasn't ready yet. In the end it doesn't really matter and like they say if you want to know the truth get it from the horses mouth. You can tell Google has something planned when they phased out the 16 gig nexus. It was like when they phased out the 8 gig version when the 32 gig came out. I hope they come out with a CDMA version of the nexus 4. I know its a pipe dream after what Verizon did to the galaxy nexus. Its interesting to see what Google has planned for the near future.
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If they released the nexus 4 with boost mobile I'd piss myself.
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I'm pretty sure all the stuff I read about the IO came true. Play Games, Cloud Sync, Maps update.
The Music service was unexpected as well as others... And no new N7 news but they said they weren't announcing any new devices at the IO.
There is hope June 10th.
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I keep checking around occasionally to see if my Chromecast will become useful today. I would have expected that only a few days after its release, the Google Play store would be filled with interesting Chromecast apps, and existing Android apps would be adding Chromecast features. As of today, the only apps capable of playing media on the Chromecast are still apps that it launched with. I've heard a bit about Koush's unreleased apps, which tells me that the holdup is Google themselves. What gives? Why are they doing this? Does anyone have any idea of when they will allow developers to release their apps? The way this Chromecast thing has played out so far seems very unlike Google, and is making me quite disappointed with them.
Waiting on Google to release the sdk out of beta. No timeline yet. It will come....
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I think main reason for the release of the device was to bring Google Movies service to your big screen TV, the rest was just a bonus. Looks like due to lots of licensing issues, this will be a slow and painful process and I hope it doesn't become the next Apple TV that is barely useful without the jailbreak and XBMC on it.
I also hope someone turns the script from the other thread to a mobile app in a similar fashion to what Koush did.
The way I figure it:
If you were an early adopter, you get a Netflix, Youtube, Google Play and sort-of Chrome tab player for $35. If you got the Netflix 3 months code, then it cost you even less. Think back to the last time you bought a disappointing piece of technology that you had high hopes for... at least this one is cheap!
I'm sure the public SDK will happen when it's good and ready. I just think Google wants to have out some more examples of big-name apps that work really well with Chromecast, before they open the floodgates to all the rest of the devs.
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Think back to the last time you bought a disappointing piece of technology that you had high hopes for... at least this one is cheap!
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That is true. It's just frustrating to own a capable device with artificial limitations.
Yea we should of known something was up when 3 months of netflix with the device at only $35. That tells me they knew the only content provider they had on board now was netflix. To keep most happy they can say "oh we pretty much gave you the device". Enjoy old movies for the next 6 months and we will slowly add content. Only way for Google to make money is to not let devs release their apps. Fortunately some will grow tired and root the device "again" and developers will create programs that function with beta sdk and your device ID that will enable apps to work as they choose. Only issue is we will never be able to receive content updates as that would patch root access. Kinda a lose lose situation. lol
Its cool dont get me wrong... To sit on the shelf and say i have 5 of them. But in know way fun to use if you already had your netflix and youtube experience. I recommend android stick mk808 or higher even a roku as they are very fun to tinker with.
I think before the 3 months of Netflix expire we'll at least see a few more big names come on board. Both developers and customers are beating down the door to get in.
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I can't help but to be pessimistic about all of this. How can a device with such a simple idea of casting not come out with the ability to cast images from your phone to the TV? It is an obvious omission that almost everyone wants and would have been a simple coding to get it working at launch.
Either way though, I must say I really love my Chromecast as-is, even though it does have these unnecessary artificial limitations.
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I can't help but to be pessimistic about all of this. How can a device with such a simple idea of casting not come out with the ability to cast images from your phone to the TV? It is an obvious omission that almost everyone wants and would have been a simple coding to get it working at launch.
Either way though, I must say I really love my Chromecast as-is, even though it does have these unnecessary artificial limitations.
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Geez people! Have some freaking patients! The SDK is in beta and developers are not allowed to release apps yet. Do you really think they created an SDK to never release it? WTF! It's like a bunch of little kids in a candy store and their mom telling them they can't eat all their candy right away. The SDK WILL be released and people WILL create apps or add functionality to current apps...
Doctors have plenty of patients.
I'd bet the vast majority of purchasers will only ever use this for the 'sanctioned' apps that G itself gets behind. Picasa should have been included out the gate. When I hacked the mk808, it was one of the first things I wanted to do, get my photos up on the big screen. Maybe someday we'll see 'Chromecast-Ready' advertising, but I still wonder how G makes real bank on this product. It's saving grace so far is price and future potential.
edit: and the more I think about it, that future potential tends to circumvent G's interests.
While everyone has a conspiracy theory I think what we're seeing is a typical new product cycle. For a product like Chromecast to be successful Google needs as many apps to support it as possible. However, I'm sure after that app developers are reluctant to support a new hardware product until there are enough devices to warrant it. Look, Windows phone has millions of phones in use but app developers aren't going there. Yes, Chromecast doesn't require much from the app developer but using their precious resources costs money and they don't want to go there until the hardware was proving itself as something people wanted.
Hence Netflix. It was a seed product. An app many millions of people use. If they were on board it could help sell the product. And help it did. I believe the success of Chromecast caught Google off guard. Clearly they weren't able to handle the demand for hardware and the demand by app developers to get things into the Play Store. While they may have thought they'd have until Holiday season to get things rolling, it has been accelerated greatly.
I expect that the next run of the hardware will be bigger and longer. I work for a company that has products made in China. It can take 6 weeks just to get on the schedule of a manufacturer and then many weeks to produce and then 3 weeks to come across the water and go through customs, then another 2 weeks to get into the channel. That's months. Google has more money to throw at the manufacturer to speed things up but there may not be too many suppliers that can make this product.
Time is what is needed. By the end of the year we'll know a lot more. Be patient.
I'm calling it. Google is not ever going to open Chromecast to development and it will never be more than a limited dongle to stream a few (mostly) paid services. They may finish an SDK but they will never remove the white list. Google has moved on to luxury barges and product tie ins with candy bars. Chromecast is an even bigger failure than Nexus Q. Google may have sold lots of Chromecasts but they have gone out of their way to make the device of only very limited utility and the 3rd party apps they have added have been so few and so limited.
I don't think I'm going to be buying any more Google multimedia devices. I feel like a real sucker for buying this one.
Dude it's $35. Want some cheese with that?
I think you are wrong on this, browse on phone play on TV is great.
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I think you are very wrong here. I would rather google whitelist quality apps than have a ton of half-assed ones for it.
Granted yes I would like to see more apps available for it. But while it's still young we don't need 100 apps that all do the exact same thing. The one app I am waiting for is plex. If that ever becomes chromecast enabled. That would be awesome
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Woah, calm down. It's not even half a year old yet.
Google is slowly but surely allowing apps to have Chromecast support.
Hulu now has Chromecast support and just recently Pandora.
While I don't really see the whole logic behind them approving apps it's really not that big of a deal.
I can see Chromecast having a good life in the future. It's definitely not a Nexus Q failure.
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I think you are very wrong here. I would rather google whitelist quality apps than have a ton of half-assed ones for it.
Granted yes I would like to see more apps available for it. But while it's still young we don't need 100 apps that all do the exact same thing. The one app I am waiting for is plex. If that ever becomes chromecast enabled. That would be awesome
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If you want your mfg to control what apps you can use and who gets to develop for them, then go swap to apple.
It would be one thing if there was even an approval process, but there isn't, just backroom deals between big companies.
When I buy google it's because I want the freedom to do what I want with my device.
That said I'm giving them til the end of the year before I declare their "SDK" dead, but I am starting to agree with the OP.
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If you want your mfg to control what apps you can use and who gets to develop for them, then go swap to apple.
It would be one thing if there was even an approval process, but there isn't, just backroom deals between big companies.
When I buy google it's because I want the freedom to do what I want with my device.
That said I'm giving them til the end of the year before I declare their "SDK" dead, but I am starting to agree with the OP.
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Google never promised you any thing with the Chromecast. You just let your imagination get the better if you. Like others said. What did you expect for $35.
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Cuzz1369 said:
Google never promised you any thing with the Chromecast. You just let your imagination get the better if you. Like others said. What did you expect for $35.
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I expect that when they publish a "Beta" SDK, that states "You're CC needs to be Whitelisted while in Beta", that within a reasonable period of time, the whitelist requirement will be lifted and the SDK will come out of Beta and they will publish a "here's the process to publish your app"
When Google(or really anyone) releases a Beta SDK Developers are going begin spending their valuable time coding solutions for that platform, expecting someday they will be able to release their product.
So far they're just wasting developers time.
This has nothing to do with how much my chromecast cost, it's about misleading developers.
You buy a product for what it does. Not what you think it could/should/will do. Its called "Chromecast" and that's exactly what it does, casts chrome to my TV, beautify.
I understand your frustration, but I knew when I bought it what it was and did, and even though I wanted more, didn't expect it for the price
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inthepit said:
I think you are very wrong here. I would rather google whitelist quality apps than have a ton of half-assed ones for it.
Granted yes I would like to see more apps available for it. But while it's still young we don't need 100 apps that all do the exact same thing. The one app I am waiting for is plex. If that ever becomes chromecast enabled. That would be awesome
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I agree with you that it would be nice to have apps that Google has tested for quality, but that does not require a white list. The could offer a tested & certified classification. But locking out everyone else is just rude. The market is pretty good at self regulating. And I'd be glad to see 100 apps that do the same thing. Chances are better I can find one I like. The more competition, the better the quality of the standouts in the long run. Locking the device down is both lazy and greedy.
Galaxy S4, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7
I would have to agree. This thing is DOA! Had potential but by the time Google gets off their butts something else better will be out to take its place. Too bad. Thank goodness it was only $35.
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I'm disappointed too, and I agree that we will probably NEVER see any 3rd party independent apps for the chromecast. We'll just get the few services that Google throws to us. I imagine they'll still add things in the future from time to time though.
For $35 I am still happy with the device. I was tired of using my Blu-Ray player's clunky UI to watch Netflix or Youtube videos. Being able to initiate and perform everything via smartphone is amazing. I do think the Play Music could be better implemented...I don't expect most people to understand that you have to upload your music to Play and then download it onto your phone through the app, rather than sideloading. But I guess that's just a product of the DIAL standard.
We all expected 'freedom' but Google never actually said this thing would be open source.
They are a business, not a charity. They probably have their reasons for being so restrictive.
Still it's early to tell what will happen. Allowing plex would solve most of my problems, personally.
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For me Chromecast has been awesome. With Pandora it just got tons better. Because I use Amazon prime as my tv source, if they release prime app I'll buy another one for my bedroom asap. If Netflix or hulu was what I use I would have already bought another.
You can use splashtop to cast browser tabs on your computer from your phone and use hulu for free.
Best $35 I've spent I'm a long time.
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Best $35 I've spent I'm a long time.
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That makes 2 of us lol Matter of fact I spent more last night on margaritas and all I got out of that was a little hangover this morning.
I've found that my CC streams Hulu better than either my blu-ray player or my LG 'smart' TV. I also use Netflix, Pandora and Google Music and am happy with them all on the CC; Plex would be icing on the cake. Plus the kids like being able to select their shows from the tablet vs the remote.
I can understand the devs not being happy though.
Furik said:
Woah, calm down. It's not even half a year old yet.
Google is slowly but surely allowing apps to have Chromecast support.
Hulu now has Chromecast support and just recently Pandora.
While I don't really see the whole logic behind them approving apps it's really not that big of a deal.
I can see Chromecast having a good life in the future. It's definitely not a Nexus Q failure.
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That's what I was told about Google TV. I'm still waiting.
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rbeavers said:
That's what I was told about Google TV. I'm still waiting.
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Yeah me too, but at least as a developer I can write and distribute code for GTV, as pathetic as it is.
I use my Chromecast every day, most times about 3-4hrs a day on multiple TV's
I have 4 Apple loving friends who own one and prefer it for Hulu, Netflix and YouTube over their Apple TV boxes.
People who won't touch Google or Android or are still using IE use it. Google has become a name in the living room by selling a "foot in the door" device at a bargain/loss.... and they are succeeding
Some failure........
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Yeah me too, but at least as a developer I can write and distribute code for GTV, as pathetic as it is.
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Yea, I can't do a thing with out root on the GTV.
It's nice we can at least cast a chrome tab.
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It's only been a little over 4 months, so it's not quite dead yet, but it's beginning to look like Google's second failure in the TV market. So far the biggest news has been Google crushing attempts to make it more useful.
I think Google's problem is that they have no clue what they want to do in the TV market. They're dabbling because they think they should, but they don't want to commit to anything.
Personally I already replaced mine with a Roku, which cost only a few dollars more and is way better. I think the Chromecast will be going to somebody else for Christmas.