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Is the LTE chip in this phone faster than TBOLT?

Or same generation? My LTE speeds seems all over the chart sometimes on the tbolt, never consistent etc.
Thanks.

Im curious myself....i have a revolution and my wife a tbolt, and both are shotty at best....
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Same generation chip. New LTE chips aren't due until 2012. However, the implementation of the chip itself does depend going from manufacturer to manufacturer, as well as the processor they're working with. I get fine speeds on my Bionic.
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bworley from androidcentral compared both on a speed test on youtube, one right next to the other. The Bionic was considerably faster.

Wouldnt have a link to the video do you? I cant find it.
Thanks.

Videos are all gone
psufan5 said:
Wouldnt have a link to the video do you? I cant find it.
Thanks.
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http://forums.androidcentral.com/droid-bionic/115848-my-bionic.html
The videos were there. But in the middle of the thread, he stated he will not post any more info and took all the videos offline. People are assuming that Moto sent him a cease and desist letter, but it's all heresay afaik.

idefiler6 said:
bworley from androidcentral compared both on a speed test on youtube, one right next to the other. The Bionic was considerably faster.
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Good to know I'm not the only one that has noticed this. I stopped by Verizon earlier to take a look at their demo Bionic. The thing consistently got between 3-5 Mbps down more than the Thunderbolt running the latest leaked Gingerbread radio, and roughly 1 Mbps upload faster. Like I said, this was consistent test after test after test. I must have done 20 tests in the store with my Thunderbolt next to the Bionic, starting the tests at the exact same moment. There is definitely something different in the Bionic's favor.

My money is on the processor making the difference. The dual core is probably a better balance with the 4g.
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Speedtest.net app does not give accurate speeds IMO. Try http://www.mobilespeedtest.com , the 5MB or 7MB test gives more realistic numbers.
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animez said:
Speedtest.net app does not give accurate speeds IMO. Try http://www.mobilespeedtest.com , the 5MB or 7MB test gives more realistic numbers.
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They fixed that a little while after the Thunderbolt came out, 17/10 seems like reasonable speeds to me.

Berzerker7 said:
They fixed that a little while after the Thunderbolt came out, 17/10 seems like reasonable speeds to me.
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Not talking about the upload bug necessarily.
The standard deviation between several measurements of two phones tested side by side at the same time and with the same radios make me suspicious of speedtest.com as well.

Berzerker7 said:
Same generation chip. New LTE chips aren't due until 2012. However, the implementation of the chip itself does depend going from manufacturer to manufacturer, as well as the processor they're working with. I get fine speeds on my Bionic.
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Wow...mine came back only 1/4 of that yesterday
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speakeasy.net is the ONLY speed test thats accurate. The app doesnt work.. flat out DOESNT work. I get 4mb on it, while the browser and anything I tether with get 15-25.
www.speakeasy.net

ystasino said:
Not talking about the upload bug necessarily.
The standard deviation between several measurements of two phones tested side by side at the same time and with the same radios make me suspicious of speedtest.com as well.
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For the record, my side by side tests used the Speakeasy.net test and the Xtreme Labs Speed Test app. I don't use the Speedtest app. The servers they let run the speed tests are absolutely terrible.

Q why is radio so much slower than Skyrocket on WIFI?

So i have been running side by side tests against an at&t skyrocket.
On wifi off he same wifi router the skyrocket gets speeds up to 20k where the note gets a little over 5k. I have tried on a number of routers and get the same results.
On non LTE networks the skyrocket gets on average DOUBLE the speed.
Quadrant shows my note at 3900 and the SR at 2600. Which is in line with what I have seen on the web. Unconnected to the above, but I wanted to see if I have a dud note. I don't.
Anyone know why? Does the skyrocket have a newer or different radio chip?
Anyway, I am prepared to bet that the at&t note will be faster than the international one we currently have.
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The Note doesn't have LTE (the korean Note has). It has HSDPA (21 Mbps). Why the Wifi is slower than on your Skyrocket is another question. I have no idea.

What was the point of your response? To find out you have no idea?
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Well, i did notice something wrong. YOU. If you can't be nice, then GTFO!
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Btw, i searched a bit now and i do know why you're getting slower speeds on your Note. I could tell you, but **** no.
"Merry christmas"
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How are testing speeds?
Next time you do a side by side do a real world test:...simultaneously download graphic heavy sites. The difference is negligible.

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On wifi off he same wifi router the skyrocket gets speeds up to 20k where the note gets a little over 5k.
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I don't have an LTE phone to compare to, but i can tell you i have no problem exceeding 20k on wifi with the note.

So it could be my radio. What rom and radio build do u have
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Again... there's low correlation between those synthetic app scores and real world speed performances of the phones.
I've done side by side tests of Note and Skyrocket. Speedtests bear out exactly what your saying. But... Ive Then immediately downloaded say desktop gizmodo.com site simultaneously and Note actually downloads faster half the time.
QUOTE=dscline;20686250]I don't have an LTE phone to compare to, but i can tell you i have no problem exceeding 20k on wifi with the note.[/QUOTE]
Done

LordManhattan said:
Btw, i searched a bit now and i do know why you're getting slower speeds on your Note. I could tell you, but **** no.
"Merry christmas"
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Haha. You made my day!
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Well, that's life.
- Show me a good loser and I'll show you an idiot.
That's all i have to say But i'll remove myself from this thread now so the OP doesn't get his nerf gun and start threatening to shoot his teddy bear if i don't shut up.

Wow, that's some really useful input there. Again, telling us that you know nothing or are removing yourself. Hey, buddy, if you do decide to come back, do let me know, perhaps PM me, because I really care.
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Know nothing? This is your thread remember? You're the noob here. And again, if you want answers to your "problem", then use the thing called "Google". I try to HELP here at XDA, and as you can see, according to my "thanks", i'm doing a good job. You? Besides *****ing, no.
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But the point is, Lord Dickbreath, that you haven't tried to help.
Nice artwork by the way.
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Thanks!
Well, i tried to help, but that ship has sailed now. If you had said "you've misunderstood, please read my post again", THEN i think we could have gotten somewhere, but i'll stop now so other people can step in (if it's not to late, lol).
Good luck on the quest!

You've misunderstood. Please read my post again.
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Tweak to speed up data speeds on T-mobile network

I just tried this tweak out and I am getting much better speeds overall. If someone else could confirm, that would be great. The tweak is simple.
When editing the APN, it should be epc.tmobile.com. Under APN type it should say "default,supl,mms" add hipri to the end so that it reads "default,supl,mms,hipri" and that is it.
Give it a shot and let me know if your speeds are any faster. The biggest improvements I've seen are in upload speeds and latency. My latency is down to about 35ms down from about 57ms and my upload speeds are up to 3.8mbps, up from about 2mbps. Download speeds are about the same.
UPDATE: I was only able to get those speeds when I changed my DNS to google's servers and adding hipri

Gonna see if it works and how do you change your Dns?
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casonswag said:
Gonna see if it works and how do you change your Dns?
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I use setdns from the play store

Weird, i get significant delay and network error when using speedtest.net app with setdns - google dns.

Can anyone else confirm this?

dweekie said:
Weird, i get significant delay and network error when using speedtest.net app with setdns - google dns.
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Is your phone rooted? Try it without changing your DNS.

joshnchen said:
Is your phone rooted? Try it without changing your DNS.
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My stock N4 doesn't really show any speed improvement with only hipri added. Can't tweak the DNS since I'm not rooted.
btw, do you keep IPv4 or you're adding v6 as well?

milan03 said:
My stock N4 doesn't really show any speed improvement with only hipri added. Can't tweak the DNS since I'm not rooted.
btw, do you keep IPv4 or you're adding v6 as well?
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I just use IPv4. I wonder if my speed improvements are a result of being in a refarmed area. The hipri tweak is usually for at&t phones and i believe stands for high priority. Anyone else try it out?

joshnchen said:
I just use IPv4. I wonder if my speed improvements are a result of being in a refarmed area. The hipri tweak is usually for at&t phones and i believe stands for high priority. Anyone else try it out?
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Refarmed market here, no benefit for me.

It slowed down my dl speed and increased my up speed. Thanks anyways

I performed the tweak but I haven't seen any major changes.
One thing to keep in mind is the way Android devices after JellyBean handles the network. I've noticed that "at rest" the network stays at HSPA:10. When the network is "active" it switches to HSPA+:15. I think this happens in an effort to conserve battery when not in use. Because of this, the first SpeedTest performed will have a higher latency than ones performed immediately after.
Just some thoughts.

Holy crap I got some nice results with this tweak! Here are some before and after pics of the results.
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No difference in the San Francisco market.

Omg thus really works thanks bud bro hoof
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This helped a bit. I usually got 10-15 Mbps down and 1.5 up.
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Yeah this helped me a bit, as far as raw download speeds are concerned.
Ping shot up quite a bit, so I'd like to see how this affects everyday usage. Thanks!
(Edit: The picture shows a few before and a few after)
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evilmunkeh said:
I performed the tweak but I haven't seen any major changes.
One thing to keep in mind is the way Android devices after JellyBean handles the network. I've noticed that "at rest" the network stays at HSPA:10. When the network is "active" it switches to HSPA+:15. I think this happens in an effort to conserve battery when not in use. Because of this, the first SpeedTest performed will have a higher latency than ones performed immediately after.
Just some thoughts.
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This makes much, much more sense than using an AT&T APN tweak on T-Mobile's network. Anyone who is claiming to see an improvement can congratulate themselves on experiencing the placebo effect firsthand.

Post your GPS Navigation test results here!

So apparently many people using the Nexus 5 are experiencing inaccurate GPS positions when on Device Only mode (using ONLY GPS, no WiFi or 3G). In order to investigate this issue further, and to find out whether or not this is a hardware issue, I would like you guys to report your findings in regards to GPS accuracy when using GPS only. Please note that I am not talking about how long it takes to get a fix but only the accuracy of that fix.
P.S. This is the thread on google's forums discussing this issue: http://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/nexus/EkllXr0ZlZM

Mine had me within 10 feet then it went up to 30. I'm also sitting inside on my couch.
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So apparently many people using the Nexus 5 are experiencing inaccurate GPS positions when on power saving mode (using ONLY GPS, no WiFi or 3G).
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Power saving is network locating only.

Rusty! said:
Power saving is network locating only.
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Sorry about that, fixed it.

With GPS only I get a lock in under 10 seconds outside with >20 satellites visible. Accuracy 5m. So no problem here.
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I haven't noticed a problem here. I will test more today. I did notice last week that it locks on to half the satellites that my S4 locks on to. It also reports slightly lower signal for each. However, the accuracy is the same or better than my S4 at 0-15 ft while the S4 is 10-30.
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mrro82 said:
Mine had me within 10 feet then it went up to 30. I'm also sitting inside on my couch.
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Being indoors does tend to negatively affect accuracy...
Having said that, my nexus 5 manages to pinpoint me to the exact room I'm in.

outdoors isn't great but it will lock in a few seconds. but i am unable to obtain a lock indoors at all. pretty lame
overall it definitely could be improved
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P.S. This is the thread on google's forums discussing this issue: http://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/nexus/EkllXr0ZlZM
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hmm, this comment from that thread:
I have the same issue.
When i put it airplane mode or only have edge network, gps works (better).
Issue seems related to network connection.
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is true for me too. if i turn on airplane mode, i got a lock of 2-3 sats indoors. can't get any more than 1 with network connection enabled. accuracy was crap in both tho
edit: actually i can't consistently reproduce either right now. hopefully can be improved

GPS gets stucked after ~30 minutes of use with Navigon Navigation Software.
Happend more then two times this weekend...
Its the same with GPS or GPS /wifi/network enabled...
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Hmm so it seems that some people may not have the issue... maybe they all have defected units?

Hi! My Nexus sees and locks a lot of satellites, more than other phones that I had, and very fast, but... I've recorded a track in bike and the track isn't too accurate. Is not a big problem, I can live with it, but I'll hope a better result when I had 15 satellites locked and 3m of precision...

Try it with location set to device only next time.

This is the first phone that was able to get GPS lock inside the building at work (from cold boot no less!). Nexus 4 could not along with the Galaxy Note I (both had GPS and GNSS support).
I've seen the error go down to a few metres sometimes.

Mine is good with GPS only on, fast and accurate locks. Haven't tried navigating more than half an hour on it through.
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Driving today and pretty much all day, it was saying GPS signal lost. It kept showing me on some different street and complete weird randomness. Showed that I was about 2 miles away yet I was only a few hundred feet away from my destination. Completely weird.
I RMA'ed it today. Totally weird.

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Driving today and pretty much all day, it was saying GPS signal lost. It kept showing me on some different street and complete weird randomness. Showed that I was about 2 miles away yet I was only a few hundred feet away from my destination. Completely weird.
I RMA'ed it today. Totally weird.
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Same here. Going to try Google on Monday to see if there is anything they can do or if I have to send it back.

Note 3 or iPad Air

Hi there guys. I got a weird problem. Hope you can help me. My contract is expiring and i can have a new gadget though only one. I can either have the note 3 or ipad air, but i'm really confused.
Now, if you are in my shoes, which will you prefer. Please don't base your decisions on my personal needs, but to your personal needs instead. Imagine you only have the Note N7000 and a PC as your gadget currently.
Please choose and state why based on your personal needs.
Thanks guys. Appreciate everyone's help.
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A man without a Crapple product is like an aardvark without a ticket for a Bolshoi theatre premiere.

Note 3!
Cause it's superior to note 3 in every aspect, android 4.3(4.4 upgradable soon)
More features
more portable
more smooth
more fast
It's a Galaxy Note
spen
touchwiz features
better dev support
more free apps
easy to root

Better go with ipad air, don't ever buy samsung phone or either go for htc one max
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abhinav quietly brilliant said:
Better go with ipad air, don't ever buy samsung phone or either go for htc one max
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No.
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That is not a valid comparison.
Phablet vs Tablet?
Reasons for a Note 3:
Customisation (roms, launcher, status bat etc....)
Cellular features that are more than just data (call, text etc...)
S pen (percise stylus good for note taking, doodling and doodling)
Ture multitasking with multi window
Better quality music for audiophiles (Wolfson 3g variant + 200+ dollar headphones ONLY). The Qualcomm version isn't bad just not as good but still better than the iPad Airs out put
Flash support with 3rd party browsers.
13mp camera with LED flash and a set of advance yet easy to use features.
It's non - restrictive meaning you can use your phone as a computer to download all sorts of files even P2P with bitorrents, extract zip + rar, download videos from youtube and extract it on board or simply use it as a USB flash drive.
Sending files over bluetooth
Being able to use your phone as a remote
Micro SD slot to cheaply expand storage rather than $100 dollars per twice the storage.
Those smart gimmicks that are useful like smart rotate and smart stay.
Reasons for the iPad Air
The larger screen 9.7" Retina display (bigger + higher than the 1080p in that of the note 3 IGNORING dpi)
It's a closed eco system meaning more quality control of apps and higher levels of security
iOS user experience will be more constant and smoother than that of any android device especially with the A7 power house.
Apps are generally more optimised so the software takes all the advantage of the hardware
Created a one code one screen size policy so the tablet apps are genuinely redesigned for tablets and it's screen area.
Better GPU in combination of better optimisation means it will be a better performer for graphics such as games thus more future proof
It's 64 bit so some CPU intensive task will perform better
Simplistic approach to UI (as technology was intended to be)
Higher 2nd hand resale value
It Is backed by worldwide hardware warranty no matter where the device was purchased as long as it was on this planet
At the end of the day, it is up to you to decide which one is better for you.
Sent by a user who owns a Galaxy S4 and a iPad Mini.
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Delete

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thats censorship.......
It should be moved to the SGN3 forums instead.
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#iCrap​

why not both?

Coffee: 2$
iCoffee: 10$
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I prefer Note 3 for Daily Use :angel:
And it's still easy to put in my Jeans Pocket

Note 3! ?

eybee1970 said:
why not both?
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that $$