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Is Froyo (FRF50) official - or just an "accident"?

I have updated my stock 2.1 N1 to Froyo (Build FRF50) manually. I'm wondering, though, if this release is really meant to be the official, final Google-supported update.
Is there any word from Google (except for MG Siegler's "The roll out to Nexus One devices has begun!" over at Seeking Alpha) that this is the one?

Same question here. Also if this turns out to be a pre released update, can the stock N1 be updated to a official version?

from what i understand there is no actual official word. That said im loving froyo: As with previous updates, froyo added features and bug fixes and also brought some new issues, so if you are thinking maybe its not official because of some bugs, to me that wouldnt be sufficient evidence: I havent experienced any of the complaints save one- Anyone else having the phone randomly go to sleep and not wake up?
The scrolling,
updated native apps (youtube is amazing now),
overall speed increase,
awesome camera/camcorder updates,
very smooth BETA flash,
simple and effective tethering,
fantastic new setting options throughout the OS,
left AND right rotating
updated UI (love the phone/app drawr/ browser buttons)
and im sure im forgetting stuff...All extremely awesome features and my personal new issues of freezing and hard sleep i can live with i just hope they arent harmful.

i't doesn't feel like a complete FroYo. I have little bugs that i noticed. screen goes black and don't go on anymore, have to take out battery. When the phone is in the charger and i'm playing with it, It gets really really hot.
The new features are great i miss some CM tweaks The UI was a little different at the IO so maybe there will be more surprises?

this was a prerelease to the developer holiday phone the official is coming out around the 29th of may and will continue to roll out till all nexus ones have the update

jdmoore81 said:
this was a prerelease to the developer holiday phone the official is coming out around the 29th of may and will continue to roll out till all nexus ones have the update
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How do you know this? also will we get that update too?

Well the "leaked" URL was pulled, wasn't it?

this was very likely to be a pre test release. I've looked into the build.prop and there are signs that it is a test release as the word test appears several times throughout.

Given the silence from Google, and the subsequent removal of the link, I suspect this was an accident... meant it to go to a select few whilst forgetting how easy it was to distribute the location of the update.zip.

Wouldn't bother me any if this was the official ... its flawless for me. No freezes or any wierd stuff. Pure froyoness

m00moo said:
this was very likely to be a pre test release. I've looked into the build.prop and there are signs that it is a test release as the word test appears several times throughout.
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Thnx for the info, so this is a test version. felt that way
Rusty! said:
Given the silence from Google, and the subsequent removal of the link, I suspect this was an accident... meant it to go to a select few whilst forgetting how easy it was to distribute the location of the update.zip.
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So the link is gone than it's definitely a accident.

I'm gonna say this ain't the final release. But I doubt it'll be any diff. How much more could they fix or improve from the accidental release to the real one.... I bet the same bugs people are seeing now will be present in the final...
Nothing's perfect
Except for me.lol no issues

oh dear... not so good if this is true!
I spose people on here flashed the update.zips from xda?
Hopefully Google will push out the live update now certainly with the potential problems people could be getting

No, I flashed with the file direct from Google before the link was pulled.

So it's all over the news Nexus has froyo now but has anyone with a legit locked stock phone actually gotten it? Like one of the ATT folks?
Anyone have any links to some real clarification on this?

No stock AT&T/Vodafone customer can get it yet.

Zenoran said:
So it's all over the news Nexus has froyo now but has anyone with a legit locked stock phone actually gotten it? Like one of the ATT folks?
Anyone have any links to some real clarification on this?
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No, I am one of the many AT&T folks that is still waiting for the official release from Google. I have a 3 week old N1 that is still stock and with locked boot loader, and I have no problems waiting, as I am not ready to root my new N1 just yet.

the official will we the frf86 as seen in a couple threads this version will work fine for the holiday version of the nexus one . i tried it on both the holiday nexus one and the official release of the nexus one and it runs better for some reason on the holiday version

Where are you getting all the info from?
Is there likely to be much added between FRF50 and FRF86?

How SO we know if its a holiday one?

[ROM] Final Froyo Release for Obsidian by CCRoms V2.02 Next Up Gingerbread

Welcome to the final release of Froyo, by the CCRoms team, which means you guessed it, we're switching gears to Gingerbread after this release. With this release we managed to get the Evo/Emerald going as intended(sorry for the wait.) The Galaxy S style pulldown power widget has been implemented in this release as well. Gem settings have been completely re-written as well, to provide a more intuitive and easier to understand interface for everyone, and of course bug fixes abound.
downloads available at: http://www.ccroms.net
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Droid X users, at this point there is nothign more we can find to do to improve battery life. When/If the battery starts to drain fast, gets sluggish, or gets hot, reboot the phone this will put the race condition causing all of these problems back to sleep, unfortunately there is no way to put the process back to sleep once it wakes up and if you kill the process kernel panics and the phone reboots anyway.

sniffle said:
Welcome to the final release of Froyo, by the CCRoms team, which means you guessed it, we're switching gears to Gingerbread after this release. With this release we managed to get the Evo/Emerald going as intended(sorry for the wait.) The Galaxy S style pulldown power widget has been implemented in this release as well. Gem settings have been completely re-written as well, to provide a more intuitive and easier to understand interface for everyone, and of course bug fixes abound.
downloads available at: http://www.ccroms.net
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Droid X users, at this point there is nothign more we can find to do to improve battery life. When/If the battery starts to drain fast, gets sluggish, or gets hot, reboot the phone this will put the race condition causing all of these problems back to sleep, unfortunately there is no way to put the process back to sleep once it wakes up and if you kill the process kernel panics and the phone reboots anyway.
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How do you plan on bringing gingerbread to the droid x when we won't have the proper kernel to take advantage of it?

Are the "known issues" (GPS, camera/camcorder, etc.) fixed in this release?

avlfive said:
Are the "known issues" (GPS, camera/camcorder, etc.) fixed in this release?
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No they are not. It shows all the known issues from the dl link posted above

bravo1234 said:
How do you plan on bringing gingerbread to the droid x when we won't have the proper kernel to take advantage of it?
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for the record, a kernel is nothing more than a core piece of low-level software that executes other programs and provides access to the hardware. nothing says that when you upgrade an android version you MUST upgrade the kernel as well, if anything you just might need to modify how android interfaces with the hardware to match the old kernel interfaces.

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No they are not. It shows all the known issues from the dl link posted above
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Saw that, just didn't know if it hadn't been updated quite yet. Too bad. I'm still waiting on these to be fixed before I can jump back in. LOVED the ROM though.

avlfive said:
Saw that, just didn't know if it hadn't been updated quite yet. Too bad. I'm still waiting on these to be fixed before I can jump back in. LOVED the ROM though.
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Those are all a must for me at least
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I don't understand the gps issue or the camera issue. If there was fine GPS and a camera i would love the fact it is AOSP however not that i use them all that often but if i loaded it i would inevitably need one or both. and its still beta if you can't get a totally stable and working froyo rom how will you ever get the GB stable. Will the kexec(?) be used to use custom kernels to make the gps and camera work?

I just booted this up seemed ok other than the problems known but for some reason it wouldn't let me download anything from the market said I didn't have enough room.... Idk y that happened
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Funnyface19 said:
I just booted this up seemed ok other than the problems known but for some reason it wouldn't let me download anything from the market said I didn't have enough room.... Idk y that happened
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same here. it's been reported in other obsidian forums too. i was able to get around it by using an older version of market. i installed cm gapps instead of obsidian gapps. The cm gapps had a version of market from 2 month ago. everything worked fine. then i updated my market to 2.2.11 and the "There's not enough room..." error message was right back again.
other than that, i really love how clean and fast this rom is. thanks a ton cvpcs and best of luck with the cyanogenmod team.

any pics of the drop down toggles???

tttuning said:
any pics of the drop down toggles???
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbKJy6MPUz0

cvpcs said:
for the record, a kernel is nothing more than a core piece of low-level software that executes other programs and provides access to the hardware. nothing says that when you upgrade an android version you MUST upgrade the kernel as well, if anything you just might need to modify how android interfaces with the hardware to match the old kernel interfaces.
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what...? What!? That is completely wrong... Nothing says you have to upgrade the kernel... unless Gingerbread uses modules not currently in the present kernel, which I can pretty much guarantee it will... Your statement could hold true for something such as minor update like 2.2 to 2.2.1 as we saw earlier, but would very like cause many things to not work come gingerbread. A good example is the previous hacked upgrades of 2.1 to 2.2 back before the proper kernels were released (specifically in memory of the HTC Incredible) sure, 2.2 could run without the proper kernel, of course your WiFi wouldn't work, GPS didn't work, if you tried to run the 720p camera it would crash, as well as several others that I cannot remember as of this moment. The kernel is not "just a low level piece of software" it is the backbone of your entire system, especially when it comes to the system talking with the hardware itself.

I think Taco that you should reread CVPS post. It stated this...
"nothing says that when you upgrade an android version you MUST upgrade the kernel as well"
Which is what you said was wrong, then said the same thing following it.

So how is the rom working for everyone? or it's pretty much dead..

ram130 said:
So how is the rom working for everyone? or it's pretty much dead..
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I think it was pretty much dead on arrival when it said the camera & camcorder didn't work...that's kind of a mandatory feature of any smartphone.
If it's been fixed...then they're lame for not updating the page noting the bugs.

JagoX said:
I think it was pretty much dead on arrival when it said the camera & camcorder didn't work...that's kind of a mandatory feature of any smartphone.
If it's been fixed...then they're lame for not updating the page noting the bugs.
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Well that sucks ..development on this phone is so slow..

The worst part is the x HAD so much potential, do to great things. I have watched this forum since the day the x launched and the sad thing is that the tbolt is only 6 days old right now and has a much larger devwlopment thread than the x has had at any point. Sad to say it but i think moto phones are done in the development community.
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The worst part is the x HAD so much potential, do to great things. I have watched this forum since the day the x launched and the sad thing is that the tbolt is only 6 days old right now and has a much larger devwlopment thread than the x has had at any point. Sad to say it but i think moto phones are done in the development community.
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The X development has all but ceased from what I can see. Such a bummer since I'm stuck with it for another year and a half. Hopefully we can see a few updates to some ROMs once gingerbread rolls around for the phone, but after that I don't see much reason for hope.

True...so what was the most annoying issue with this rom? Im thinking about flashing it. Im on 3.4.2 now.
Also you can sell your DX on swappa.com then pay the difference and get a htc.

Awaiting My Nexus 7, need some input

I was so excited to get my Nexus 7 a day early. It came today and I immediately started setting it up. Shortly after turning it on, the screen would do things on its own or just not respond to my touches. It did sometimes. Very disappointed. So RMA'd it and awaiting my replacement. (Anyone else hear of this?)
Anywho, while I'm waiting, time to get a plan. I have already downloaded the Nexus 7 Toolkit and plan to use that to get me rooted and a recovery. (Is this the most common method for N7 users?) Also, any input on a recovery? I've been using CWM since I started using Android, but it seems TWRP is getting a lot of attention.
Lastly, the dreaded ROM question. I currently run CM10 M2 on my Nexus S 4G and... eh. CM9 ran great, but been having alot of reboots and freezes on M2. I know it's not stable so I don't hold it against them.
What's everyone's favorite on the Nexus 7?
Things I look for in a ROM, stability and nice tweakable features. I don't OC, never will. I was eyeing up Paranoid Android, but not sure how stable it is. CM10 worries me only because of my experience with my phone so far, but I love CM based ROMs. I've never had much luck with AOKP. Am I missing any big names or great ROMs that I should consider besides Paranoid, CM10, or AOKP?
Thanks in advance.

Best ROM threads suck, even more when they are polls.

You know, its people like you that give xda a bad rep for being arrogant and unhelpful. This isn't a "best ROM" thread. I'm basically asking peoples opinions and experiences ofthe ROMs I listed and maybe some ROMs that are hidden gems .

when my N7 comes; first thing going on it is Paranoid.
no doubt.

wavrunrx said:
when my N7 comes; first thing going on it is Paranoid.
no doubt.
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Awesome, see that's the input I'm looking for. Why though? What's catching your eye? I seen on their thread that Paranoid isn't the most stable ROM, I wonder the reason for that. Only issues I've read about is people changing their DPI to something the N7 can't handle. What about recovery? CWM or TWRP?

Just my opinion but just try stock for a while. We already have the most up to date technology so why overclock? All games run well except Gameloft games and that's because they don't optimize for tegra processors. I don't change ROMs until the company stops supporting the newest updates.
P.S. there's always one in every crowd

kieso said:
Just my opinion but just try stock for a while. We already have the most up to date technology so why overclock? All games run well except Gameloft games and that's because they don't optimize for tegra processors. I don't change ROMs until the company stops supporting the newest updates.
P.S. there's always one in every crowd
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Yeah. He's right... I'll get my 32GB N7 today, and the first thing I planned is not to root it... First of all to wait if some of those damage problems arrive (I'm lazy so I don't want to unroot when something's wrong..)... And I'm very happy with stock... Android really grows... And I taught myself to live with the quick settings... So, I see no need. I don't really need colored stuff, or idk.
I recommend you to just use stock for a while and when you don't like it, you can still root it ^^ idk how it arrives (locked or unlocked) but you may want to unlock the bootloader first, before really setting it up. So when you going to root it, you won't lose data ^^
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Yea, that was another idea. If I stay stock, I'll root it then stay stock. Get a feel for the tablet ways before deciding to go with a custom ROM, which looks like is gonna be paranoid so far... but yea, like I said, def no over clocking. That quad core the n7 is packing will be sweet enough. Any recs on which recovery? Are there any big differences that might sway my decision to one?

personally im going to go TWRP on my nexus 7. my SGS3 has it; its an evolution of CWM imho

infamshxr said:
You know, its people like you that give xda a bad rep for being arrogant and unhelpful. This isn't a "best ROM" thread. I'm basically asking peoples opinions and experiences ofthe ROMs I listed and maybe some ROMs that are hidden gems .
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I've been enjoying my time on the linaro builds of aokp. Nice and snappy, the best kernel I've used to far has to be Trinity IMO, you can tweak CPU and GPU settings. I just wish it would run in tablet mode, still waiting on a patch for 4.2. As for recovery I've always been a cwm man but recently switched to Twrp, it has a nice interface and lots of options. Oh and BTW the nexus 7 toolkit is AWESOME, within 30 minutes of unpacking my N7 I had it unlocked, rooted, recovery, and super usered. And it does this with one click, you sit back and it does the rest.....that is after you make it install the adb drivers for you.
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I like that twrp is all touch. Any other big advantages? As far as CPU and GPU settings, meh... lol that and I would like something running 4.2 and something that isn't gonna seem like I'm using a 7" phone lol

Is it just me...

I'm wondering if I'm the only person to be, well, disappointed with the Nexus 4. I have had Google-centric devices before, starting with the Nexus One and I enjoyed using them. I was looking forward to getting my N4 immensely but since it arrived it's just been nothing but ball-ache.
It never really feels as fast as its specs suggest it could be.
If I snap a picture (which is disappointing 99% of the time) I can't send it by clicking the share button and choosing Gmail - it just sits in my outbox, and has with every ROM I've used, including stock.
The device's battery is inconsistent.
It's slicker than an eel that's been soaked in KY, so unless it's in a case or bumper it slips and slides off surfaces and, as we all know, it isn't the most robust smartphone in the world.
I'm holding out hope that KLP will bring things together and get it all moving right, but so far I'm a misery guts...a misery guts who keeps eyeing up the HTC One.
Am I alone?

It is an upgrade for me because I had an htc one v. I honestly think all of the functions are usable (besides recording audio). I was very excited to know the nexus 4 came out, after using the nexus 7 for a couple of months. Although if you have owned a phone with features that worked more efficiently, then yes this device could totally be let down. The battery life could be better(even with custom kernels/roms) I figure i'm gonna sit with my nexus 4 through another generation of nexus before I upgrade.

Yes. And this thread is pointless.
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For me its the complete opposite. Ive had every nexus phone an the n4 is by far the best. My phone is blazin fast woth no lag whatsoever no matter what rom im on, camera takes great pics an the battery is pretty good. It is pretty slick cause its mainly glass but a case fixes that. Maybe u got a bad phone or something

Yes, it is just you. Can we close this thread?

Yes , just you.

If your picture is getting stuck in the outbox, that probably means your internet connection is too slow to send it quickly.
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I thought it might have been a bad one at first, but the wife's got one and she's had some (minor) issues too. There are aspects of the device that I love, but having had a Nexus 7 and gotten to really like Jelly Bean I was hoping for a lot more from the N4. There just seems to be a lack of veneer in certain areas, like jobs were just sort of finished rather than being polished.
The N4 is the best Nexus device in terms of hardware, sure, but I don't feel that Google has made as much of that hardware as it could have, though that could probably be attributed in some part to it being an enthusiasts device.
As for you, mgymnop and biggiephat (and anyone else who wants to be a plum) , it's a discussion forum for the Nexus 4. I was trying to initiate a sensibl discussion with other users to share my experiences and listen to others. If you don't like it, **** off. There's always dullards like you who have to mince around trying to be superior to other users. No one wants to hear your bull****. Take part or keep it shut.
@Chrono_Tata - I thought that at first but it's like it on Wi-Fi too. It's been a real head-scratcher!

Tone-Fu said:
I thought it might have been a bad one at first, but the wife's got one and she's had some (minor) issues too. There are aspects of the device that I love, but having had a Nexus 7 and gotten to really like Jelly Bean I was hoping for a lot more from the N4. There just seems to be a lack of veneer in certain areas, like jobs were just sort of finished rather than being polished.
The N4 is the best Nexus device in terms of hardware, sure, but I don't feel that Google has made as much of that hardware as it could have, though that could probably be attributed in some part to it being an enthusiasts device.
As for you, mgymnop and biggiephat (and anyone else who wants to be a plum) , it's a discussion forum for the Nexus 4. I was trying to initiate a sensibl discussion with other users to share my experiences and listen to others. If you don't like it, **** off. There's always dullards like you who have to mince around trying to be superior to other users. No one wants to hear your bull****. Take part or keep it shut.
@Chrono_Tata - I thought that at first but it's like it on Wi-Fi too. It's been a real head-scratcher!
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Lol a plum
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Please just send me your n4 once youve bought htc one x n_n
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yes you are alone
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I think he meant the HTC one not one x
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I love N4. The main thing is NEXUS. Pure google and lots of ROMs out there!

Tone-Fu said:
I'm wondering if I'm the only person to be, well, disappointed with the Nexus 4. I have had Google-centric devices before, starting with the Nexus One and I enjoyed using them. I was looking forward to getting my N4 immensely but since it arrived it's just been nothing but ball-ache.
It never really feels as fast as its specs suggest it could be.
For me it's quite the opposite. It's easily the fastest phone Ive used yet (that includes most 2012 flagships but nothing like the Xperia Z or HTC One) and I don't see any reason I'd want it to be faster. I don't see any task in the near future that the S4 Pro won't be able to handle, and project butter just makes the experience unbeatable IMO.
If I snap a picture (which is disappointing 99% of the time) ...
The camera is disappointing but I don't use it too much so really don't care.
I can't send it by clicking the share button and choosing Gmail - it just sits in my outbox, and has with every ROM I've used, including stock.
Can't comment here, I've never tried it and really cba to do so now.
The device's battery is inconsistent.
Mine's been fine and the battery has always gotten me through the day perfectly fine.
It's slicker than an eel that's been soaked in KY, so unless it's in a case or bumper it slips and slides off surfaces and, as we all know, it isn't the most robust smartphone in the world.
I've got a case but it does slip around a lot without a case. You'll have to come up with a solution or learn to live with it I'm afraid.
I'm holding out hope that KLP will bring things together and get it all moving right, but so far I'm a misery guts...a misery guts who keeps eyeing up the HTC One.
If the one's what you prefer then by all means get it. The N4 isn't for everyone, which is perfectly understandable.
Am I alone?
Almost certainly not
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Just my opinions on this. At the end of the day it's entirely down to personal preference, which nobody can really change. To the people who said that he is alone, you do realise that that's akin to saying 'green is the best colour and if you don't like it then you're an idiot' right?

Cheers for the constructive replies people.
Just to clarify, the device is quick, yeah, but it feels that the OS brings it down at times, if that makes any sense? Even though Android is hugely capable and mainstream now it feels at times like it's still a work in progress. Little things like a widget will randomly go tits up, or my keyboard will just stop working, its minor, but frustrating as hell at times.

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Cheers for the constructive replies people.
Just to clarify, the device is quick, yeah, but it feels that the OS brings it down at times, if that makes any sense? Even though Android is hugely capable and mainstream now it feels at times like it's still a work in progress. Little things like a widget will randomly go tits up, or my keyboard will just stop working, its minor, but frustrating as hell at times.
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I have neither of those issues.

Tone-Fu said:
Cheers for the constructive replies people.
Just to clarify, the device is quick, yeah, but it feels that the OS brings it down at times, if that makes any sense? Even though Android is hugely capable and mainstream now it feels at times like it's still a work in progress. Little things like a widget will randomly go tits up, or my keyboard will just stop working, its minor, but frustrating as hell at times.
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I have been with Android since the T-Mobile G1 by HTC and xperienced the whole evolution from Cupcake to Jellybebean and android probably will always be work in progress, it is an evoluton. It will be even better and more complete with every build. As with any other OS.

some of my korean friends wrote it off when they discovered it was LG and not Samsung.

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some of my korean friends wrote it off when they discovered it was LG and not Samsung.
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That is a stupid reason in this case, as it is a Google phone build by LG.

OP if you are disappointed, maybe head over here and then replace you Device...Thanks.

It has been over a month since the Nexus 5 release.

Why haven't any of the major teams (PA, AOKP, CM) put out a single build? I know they must be working on it, but I'm sure it doesn't take over a month even for an alpha.
When the N4 came out, ROMs popped up like roaches. What exactly is taking them so long?
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umm CM has nightlies. First one was 4 days ago.

Cm has gone official and if you can't wait then help them build.
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PA is currently working on there rom and don't want to release it until all bugs are worked out. Give it time, It will be Christmas soon and you will have plenty to choose from.
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Lol @ op's ignorance. They have been building alpha builds since the device was released. Alpha builds are just barebone stock aosp. Is that what u expect from CM, PA, AOKP, OMNI??? No you want those specific ROM features. Well those developers (whom most have real jobs, kids, families, etc) are busting their ass for free to incorporate their features into their Roms for us and will drop them asap.
Instead of making pointless whiny spoiled little brat threads like this, Learn how to code yourself and please do share... Oh what's that? You can't? Then shut up and wait.
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If you don't like to wait update the rom yourself. You obviously have no idea a to how big of a change KitKat was behind the scenes and what goes into making a ROM.
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Jeeeenx said:
Why haven't any of the major teams (PA, AOKP, CM) put out a single build? I know they must be working on it, but I'm sure it doesn't take over a month even for an alpha.
When the N4 came out, ROMs popped up like roaches. What exactly is taking them so long?
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Wait impatient guy... If you want something thats FREE wait for it you are not entitled to ANYTHING, if you cant wait then why not code yourself dont be ungrateful be grateful they are even coding ROMS and btw CM nightlies are available....

I am terribly sorry but i seem to have caused some frustration for some if you. I must have chosen a poorly constructed sentence to ask my question. What I meant to ask was how big of a difference is there between jellybean and KitKat. I'm in no way a developer, and mean no offense to anyone.
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It's cool man, people just undertandably can react in that way because let's face it...people nowadays love to complain and whine. This is true about everything. People whine in comments about something not being updated or fixed quickly enough, and then 2 hours later whine in comments about another app being updated and fixed too frequently.
Because somehow, it's all about them. I'm not saying that was your intention. But I will say that since I spent a small amount of time looking in the app development threads I had a better understanding of what the scenario was that explained your question. After reading a couple of the threads, I'm not very surprised that most of them are delaying releases a little while.
Here's another way of looking at it, Kit-Kat brought a lot of new features and improvements...and it even has a very significantly smaller footprint on the device. It is entirely understandable that the people who make custom ROM's, most of them who do it just for the pleasure of it, might take a little longer than we might have experienced in the past.
Personally, I'm calling it now...give it a little bit of time, and I really think the roms that are released in the future are going to be fantastic. As far as I can tell, there is literally no drawback to the current Nexus phone as it pertains to why a person would want to spend development time on it instead of another device.
That's a good thing for all of us!

Time.
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