Hello everyone. I have this phone for a week right now and I'm really impressed how brilliant it is! I love it. But there are some questions I want to ask you and one of it is:
What is your average charging time from ~0% to absolutely full 100%? In my case it's about 3 or even 4 hours of constant charging. Even when on 100%, my widget (Battery life by Curve fish) doesn't show it's fully charged - still I have to leave my phone connected and after 30/40 minutes it says "full" and I can disconnect it. It's pretty strange because the charger is meant to have 1,5A output which is VERY BIG current in comparison with Xperia PLAY's charger (850mA). And many reviews of this phone say that the full charging cycle takes about 1h 30min from 0 to 100... What do you think?
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Are you using it while charging 3-4 hours, if you are using it, it's charged and discharged at the same time?
But from what I know - thermal throttling is the cause again. Especially if you're using it.
Maybe it charges 1,5Ah for the first 15 - 30 minutes, but then the current goes down, because of the temperature.
Somewhere between 80-100% it is normal, that it takes longer. The charging current is as low as high is the battery charging state.
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I think its common knowledge that the HTC One has a slow charging speed compared to other smartphones.
Thus, since i use my phone all day..on the move, leaving it to charge at a stationary spot is rather annoying, so therefore the only workaround is to charge it overnight and use it during the day. But the problem with this is that it'll be done charging far before the night is over, and stay plugged in, therefore my question is, (or rather two questions)
Does the phone automatically stop charging once it hits 100%? Or does it continue to keep the phone at 100%, reducing the battery life of the phone?
HTC should have included a faster charger. My One takes a few hours to fully charge and doesn't even really charge when I'm using it while charging.
As for your question, I don't have a actual answer but I imagine it maintains the 100% charge by constantly charging it.
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killman2659 said:
HTC should have included a faster charger. My One takes a few hours to fully charge and doesn't even really charge when I'm using it while charging.
As for your question, I don't have a actual answer but I imagine it maintains the 100% charge by constantly charging it.
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A faster charger wouldn't make a difference as the amount of charge the phone can accept is determined by the phone itself. The phone requests X amount of power, and the charger provides it, as long as it is capable of outputting that X amount. A 2amp charger wouldn't charge the phone faster.
And yes the phone has an intelligent charging chip. It stops charging at 100%, and drip feeds the phone when it detects the battery level going down. On the HTC One X, they did it in a weird way.
The charger goes up to 100%, then lets the phone go down till 95% before starting to charge again. This confused a lot of people as they would unplug their phone at 100%, then 1 phone call/text message later it drops to 95%, showing the real battery level
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A faster charger wouldn't make a difference as the amount of charge the phone can accept is determined by the phone itself. The phone requests X amount of power, and the charger provides it, as long as it is capable of outputting that X amount. A 2amp charger wouldn't charge the phone faster.
And yes the phone has an intelligent charging chip. It stops charging at 100%, and drip feeds the phone when it detects the battery level going down. On the HTC One X, they did it in a weird way.
The charger goes up to 100%, then lets the phone go down till 95% before starting to charge again. This confused a lot of people as they would unplug their phone at 100%, then 1 phone call/text message later it drops to 95%, showing the real battery level
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This is exactly what i was looking for, thanks. So it does stop charging at 100%, allowing me to charge it overnight beyond the length of its charge cycle without reducing the battery life?
I understand that dropping down a bit and charging again is better than constantly keeping the battery at 100%, but isnt it technically...still bad for the battery in the long run?
I put my phone to charge around 8 or 9 pm. Just unplugged around 3am and its at 97%.I used oem charger. That should be more than enough time to fully charge. What could cause this? Oem battery as well.
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I've noticed that it backs off it's charging speed for the last 5% or so. I have a hardware dongle that measures current passing through USB cable ( powerpractical.com ) which confirms that it's drawing much less current when in the 90+% range. I suspect this is being done intentionally to reduce wear on the battery.
outkast22 said:
I put my phone to charge around 8 or 9 pm. Just unplugged around 3am and its at 97%.I used oem charger. That should be more than enough time to fully charge. What could cause this? Oem battery as well.
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The first time I got the phone, I used up the battery. Then I recharged it for only 2 and a half hour to get from 1% to 100%. There might be some problem with your phone. Did you notice any apps used during that time? Probably because something kept the screen on during charging.....
Hm, yeah, my phone charged fully within ~3 hrs from 40% today (though the charging rate does slow dramatically at the end, falling from 5W (according to hardware meter) with 1400 ma charge rate reported in software, to 3W and 900ma at 90% and 2W and 450ma after 95%
I remember seeing the last few percent take a lot longer than that in the past, and coming back after many hours of charging to see it at 98%, rather than 100%. Strange.
Hello, I will be getting my Moto X soon. I had a quick questions. I know it supports quick charging with the turbo charger. My question is does the phone need to be at a certain percentage for this to work it does the first 15 minutes of charging regardless how how much battery is left charge quicker? For example, I've seen various tests where it gets around 30% charge in 15 min. If I'm at 60% charge, can I go to 90% in 15 minutes or does the battery need to be at a critical level for me to get that amount of charge in that short a time? Thanks.
It ramps down as it gets closer to charged. I can add about 50 to 60 % charge in 20 minutes or so when it's low. Great when you need to shower.
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Hello, I will be getting my Moto X soon. I had a quick questions. I know it supports quick charging with the turbo charger. My question is does the phone need to be at a certain percentage for this to work it does the first 15 minutes of charging regardless how how much battery is left charge quicker? For example, I've seen various tests where it gets around 30% charge in 15 min. If I'm at 60% charge, can I go to 90% in 15 minutes or does the battery need to be at a critical level for me to get that amount of charge in that short a time? Thanks.
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I think it is the same as my Oppo Find 7 with its VOOC charger. It will fast charge up to 75% and from then on it will charge at normal rate to 90% and trickle charge for then to full.
The VOOC charger will charge my Oppo from 0%-75% in under 30 minutes and from 0%-full in under an hour but even though the Moto X has a smaller battery it charges slower. Also the Oppo doesn't come with any other charger than the VOOC and after all the charge cycles the battery performance has not dropped at all.
The other day I charged my Find 7 from dead to full and then charged my wives Find 7 in less time than it took to charge my Moto x from 5% to full.
I was under the impression that quick charge only works when your battery is almost completely dead, and it rapidly charges up to 60% (or around that number) and after that it charges at a normal rate. So you wouldnt be able to go from 60% to 90% in 15min, it would take the same amount of time as it would with a 2A power supply.
Here is my experience with the Turbo Charger. I forgot to charge my phone (after heavy use) before going to sleep. I woke up with it dead. I had to head to work in an hour. I stuck it on the Turbo Charger and after about 30 minutes I was charged from 0% to 80%. Left it on the charger for another 15 minutes while I finished getting ready and was at 90% by the time I was heading out the door.
I have also charged it from around 60%. Took roughly 20 minutes to charge to 100%. I did notice a slow down once it hit 90%.
Is it normal behavior that supercharge "slows down" as it gets closer to full charge?
I am asking because i have noticed that my 1 month old P20 Pro charges slower even though it displays "supercharging" on the display? Maybe i am imagining things, because the battery was at 89% when i plugged it in.
I have used Ampere to monitor the charging current ant it stayed around 750mA during most of the charge and dropped to 450mA at the end.
Damun said:
Is it normal behavior that supercharge "slows down" as it gets closer to full charge?
I am asking because i have noticed that my 1 month old P20 Pro charges slower even though it displays "supercharging" on the display? Maybe i am imagining things, because the battery was at 89% when i plugged it in.
I have used Ampere to monitor the charging current ant it stayed around 750mA during most of the charge and dropped to 450mA at the end.
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As far as I know, the low battery power of mobile phones is usually due to the fast charging speed. When the charging rate reaches more than 80%, the battery power is close to the full. In order to ensure the safety of use and extend the battery life, when the battery is rapidly charged, the charging current output by the charger will gradually decrease and the charging speed will slow down until it is fully charged. This feeling is normal for you. How long does it take you to charge from 0% to 100%?
Yes - This is generally a safety measure for the battery.
How long does it take from 0% to 50% and as far as I am aware it slows down from 60%
Thanks for your replies bobo and mulkman.
It is reassuring that my device is ok and (hopefully) I am only imagining things
I haven't had the chance to charge from <50% to 100% but I will leave the phone to go below 50% over the next few days and charge it up to 100% and post the result.
Finally my phone discharged enough so i could do some charging.
Started at 44%
Total charge time 66 minutes to 100%.
Supercharge indicated 100% of time.
Meassured approx. every 10 mins (6 time points)
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Finally my phone discharged enough so i could do some charging.
Started at 44%
Total charge time 66 minutes to 100%.
Supercharge indicated 100% of time.
Meassured approx. every 10 mins (6 time points)
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Hi!
Check whether the phone and the power adapter are connected properly. And you should use box accessories (original) charger.
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Check whether the phone and the power adapter are connected properly. And you should use box accessories (original) charger.
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Connection is as good as it gets and I use the charger and cable supplied in the box with phone.
Is ~40% - 100% in ~1 hour normal charge speed? (Phone is on, screen off)
Damun said:
Connection is as good as it gets and I use the charger and cable supplied in the box with phone.
Is ~40% - 100% in ~1 hour normal charge speed? (Phone is on, screen off)
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Hi! Was your mobile data on while charging? Because it takes more time when mobile data is on or mobile is heated up.
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Hi! Was your mobile data on while charging? Because it takes more time when mobile data is on or mobile is heated up.
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Everything was on, but the phone was on WiFi. Temperature of the battery did increase to 32 degrees centigrade (checked in Ampere). The phone is in a original Huawei smart case, which may increase the temperature.
It's probably about right. It slows down at the top. Attaching a couple of charging sessions for comparison. You can see that the percentage per minute decreases when the battery reaches the higher levels of charge. At the rate of the first picture/occasion it would charge the battery in half an hour. But that's not the case since it slows down a lot.
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It's probably about right. It slows down at the top. Attaching a couple of charging sessions for comparison. You can see that the percentage per minute decreases when the battery reaches the higher levels of charge. At the rate of the first picture/occasion it would charge the battery in half an hour. But that's not the case since it slows down a lot.
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Thanks!
It seems that my phone is behaving normally :fingers-crossed:
BTW I did test it with a new charger/cable and got the same results.
Damun said:
Thanks!
It seems that my phone is behaving normally :fingers-crossed:
BTW I did test it with a new charger/cable and got the same results.
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Good to hear.
Is your phone in one of those TPU case and if so remove it before charging your device.
The charging speed is dependent on the current battery temp so it may throttle if your device gets too hot
mulkman said:
Good to hear.
Is your phone in one of those TPU case and if so remove it before charging your device.
The charging speed is dependent on the current battery temp so it may throttle if your device gets too hot
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My phone is in an original Huawei flip-case. It is made of PU-like plastic/rubber material and must insulate quite a bit.
Damun said:
My phone is in an original Huawei flip-case. It is made of PU-like plastic/rubber material and must insulate quite a bit.
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Yes most definitely.
Have you ever noticed that the phone gets warm during the first 0-70% of its charging cycle.
Towards the end the phone enters trickle charge mode to protect the battery
mulkman said:
Yes most definitely.
Have you ever noticed that the phone gets warm during the first 0-70% of its charging cycle.
Towards the end the phone enters trickle charge mode to protect the battery
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I haven't noticed before. I usually have my phone on the table while charging and i dont pick it up. But when monitoring with Ampere I noticed that the temperature went up.
Hi there,
to be honest, I have posted that question already in the P30 forum. But as both devices are quite similar and the Pro has a wider reach I decided to repeat it here. I hope you don't mind...
With the new EMUI10.1 also the "Smart Charge" feature arrived. Well, here at my P30 as a switch at least. I am really not sure, if this is working at all. I have it activated since idk 5 weeks or so and am using the original cable and charger. The charging curve, as can be seen in the battery settings, is not displaying any slower or even paused charging speed, the curve goes straight up until 100% ~1h after plugging in. Also there is nothing indicating an activated smart charging right when I plug in the charger.
What is your experience here, can you guys see any difference, have you seen any proof this is working?
Many thanks.
Yes, I've noticed it on both of my Huawei phones. It basically slows down or even stops charging so it doesnt max out, in order to preserve battery life. So you can leave it on the charger forever but it'll never hit 100%. My P30 pro sits on the charger almost daily and sits around 80-90%.
Maybe it has an algorithm that knows when you dont use it and charges to max then? My phone is on a wireless charger about 95% of the time throughout the day and night because it isnt used often. Sometimes it'll popup telling me that its using the smart charge feature and if I want to disable it blah blah.
adamlee2012 said:
I wake up every morning and mines on 100%. Looking at the battery graph it goes straight to 100% doesn't stop at 80 and charge nearer the time I unplug it so not quite sure how they've implemented it. Sony pauses charging til the usual time you unplug. Maybe when it reaches 100 on Huawei it stops charging.
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That matches my experience. Also the Sony part.
Hi guys, I noticed that even if the smart charge is on and I always charge at 80% max, if I forget to unplug it it goes up to 100%. SO I suppose it is not working... What is your experience about it?
adamlee2012 said:
I think it charges to 100% then stops charging... And keeps it at 100%... I charge my phone every night... I never see it pause charging at 80% looking at the charging graph.
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Thank you for your feedback! So it is not working as it should. I got it should "understand" your habits and charge it accordingly, never going over 80%.
It's a pity, I found it really useful, but if it works like this it is useless.
beggar23 said:
Hi there,
to be honest, I have posted that question already in the P30 forum. But as both devices are quite similar and the Pro has a wider reach I decided to repeat it here. I hope you don't mind...
With the new EMUI10.1 also the "Smart Charge" feature arrived. Well, here at my P30 as a switch at least. I am really not sure, if this is working at all. I have it activated since idk 5 weeks or so and am using the original cable and charger. The charging curve, as can be seen in the battery settings, is not displaying any slower or even paused charging speed, the curve goes straight up until 100% ~1h after plugging in. Also there is nothing indicating an activated smart charging right when I plug in the charger.
What is your experience here, can you guys see any difference, have you seen any proof this is working?
Many thanks.
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According to the official, smartphones powered by lithium batteries ages differently, which results vary in terms of charging or simply called slow charging as well as short battery life.
For example, if a user leaves the charging overnight or for a long time. The charger keeps supplying the power to the battery, a state called overcharging. Repeating this process causes battery aging.
But with accurate management, the battery aging can be slow down and extend the battery life.
This is where Smart Charging Mode comes in place and uses the phone’s built-in AI capabilities to learn usage patterns. To slow down the battery to charge 100% when required.
For example, if the smart charging mode is enabled and the battery reaches 80%. The charging automatically slowdowns (charging rate) before it reaches 100%. This whole process prevents the phone to keep charging at 100 percent without harming the batter
P20pro here, same problem. Night or day, it seems to charge at the same rate, not waiting at 80%, no sign of that toggle doing anything.
skodann said:
According to the official, smartphones powered by lithium batteries ages differently, which results vary in terms of charging or simply called slow charging as well as short battery life.
For example, if a user leaves the charging overnight or for a long time. The charger keeps supplying the power to the battery, a state called overcharging. Repeating this process causes battery aging.
But with accurate management, the battery aging can be slow down and extend the battery life.
This is where Smart Charging Mode comes in place and uses the phone’s built-in AI capabilities to learn usage patterns. To slow down the battery to charge 100% when required.
For example, if the smart charging mode is enabled and the battery reaches 80%. The charging automatically slowdowns (charging rate) before it reaches 100%. This whole process prevents the phone to keep charging at 100 percent without harming the batter
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I still cannot see any slowdown in charging here. How about you?
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None... Charges as usual over night. Goes to 100% in about 1 hour and stays there
So basically it charges up to 80% in regular mode, after it starts to charge or very slowly or just before u wake up to 100%.. Yes, is learning at what time usually u touch for the first time the phone..
Or at least, this is what should do
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duff91 said:
So basically it charges up to 80% in regular mode, after it starts to charge or very slowly or just before u wake up to 100%.. Yes, is learning at what time usually u touch for the first time the phone..
Or at least, this is what should do
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Exactly, "should do". Instead the phone is charging quickly and straight to 100% without any slowdown.
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