Many people have been toying with the idea that, the Nexus 4, being a Nexus device, could be riddled with bugs and glitches at the time of release, and thus have only placed a small amount of stock for sale so those issues only stay among a small amount of people.
The guys at Google, instead of testing for hours on end, let the public do so, and then check up on sites, like this one, for issues people have with the phone and thus fix it up. This could explain why the Bumpers are already stocked, but the phones themselves are looking to be released Black Friday, several days after, and this time, with a whole lot more stock as they have to take into account the back orders, as well poor guys like me who missed out.
What are your thoughts on this?
Wouldn't that be unfair to the people who managed to buy it out first? I mean they are essentially paying the same amount for a phone that is supposed to have the kinks sorted out already, not pay to have a phone in beta testing. But I really hope this is the case, and Google not only sorts out these issues but also offers compensation to the early adopters as to make everyone happy and fair!
Tin Foil Hat time for you i think...
Where did you see stocked bumpers?
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Google Play.
Google Play, mate.
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Google Play, mate.
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It's sold out in the US Google Play store...
If that's true then we'll be seeing an update from Google shortly after the second batch go out?
Negative, the nexus one was the trial run.
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Doubtful. I just don't think Google anticipated it being quite so popular. Worst of all, they allowed you to purchase up to 5 in one hit, which more then a handful of people did. 1-2 max on launch and up to a week or two after in my opinion. This would have ensured 'a lot' more people actually got a phone and it would have stopped eBay being flooded with N4's by people looking to make a quick buck.
Every nexus phone is trails . We get it test it Google updates other OEM make there phones with the new version. As far are you tin foil hat about a multi billion dollar company not testing I doubt that
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How could the 4th generation of anything be a test run?
Tinfoil Hattery abounds in the General forum. It's a conspiracy I tells ya!
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Many people have been toying with the idea that, the Nexus 4, being a Nexus device, could be riddled with bugs and glitches at the time of release, and thus have only placed a small amount of stock for sale so those issues only stay among a small amount of people.
The guys at Google, instead of testing for hours on end, let the public do so, and then check up on sites, like this one, for issues people have with the phone and thus fix it up. This could explain why the Bumpers are already stocked, but the phones themselves are looking to be released Black Friday, several days after, and this time, with a whole lot more stock as they have to take into account the back orders, as well poor guys like me who missed out.
What are your thoughts on this?
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We, the public, being beta testers for Google products? Pffft!
No place for this type of speculation on this board. If you have news, tips, tricks, guides, or howtos, feel free to post. This type of stuff is more suited for your blog.
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My first thread was in the Desire section and we got on the topic of the Nexus One not being sold through Google anymore but now its dead all together There's an article on mashable dot com that tells how its all being halted.
http://www.mobilemag.com/2010/07/18/google-to-stop-selling-the-nexus-one/
It was widely heralded as the first real “Google Phone” and now it will soon be laid out to pasture. If you were hoping to get your hands on the Google Nexus One smartphone, I highly suggest you do it very soon, because Google has placed its final order with HTC for the device. After stock from this shipment is depleted Google will no longer be selling the Nexus One through its official online store. Nada. No more. Kaput. You have plenty of other options in the Android realm, like the HTC Droid Incredible, but the Nexus One holds a special place in cell phone history.
That’s the bad news, but there are two smaller tidbits of good news. First, Google will continue to offer support through its customer service lines. So, if you already have one of these devices in hand, you can still get help when you need it. Second, Google is looking for a way to continue selling the Nexus One through a sales partner, but these sales will be restricted to registered app developers.
I guess you go out and buy just about any other Google Android device offered through your carrier of choice, but those oftentimes contain some carrier-specific doo-dahs. The Nexus One is, as far as we can tell, the only true clean-slate and completely unlocked Android that you can get on a very official basis.
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My first thread was in the Desire section and we got on the topic of the Nexus One not being sold through Google anymore but now its dead all together There's an article on mashable dot com that tells how its all being halted.
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And it's complete nonsense, as is the other exact same thread as this one.
Not hardly dead...Still plenty of life & development in our Nexus
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My first thread was in the Desire section and we got on the topic of the Nexus One not being sold through Google anymore but now its dead all together There's an article on mashable dot com that tells how its all being halted.
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For f**k's sake, stop trolling the panic.
How many topics a day do we need about this?!
FOR THE LAST F*CKING TIME:
Nexus One's ONLY purpose and the SOLE reason for existence was to promote android and show what it can do on a good hardware. They planned to have Nexus 2 to continue pushing android. Since so many companies like HTC/Motorola/Samsung jumped on an Android band-wagon, Google officially stopped Nexus TWO development and slowing down (NOT STOPPED!!!!!!!) Nexus One sales.
As per Google's CEO own words, "NEXUS ONE WAS SO SUCCESSFULL, THAT WE DON'T NEED NEXUS TWO."
If your brain is so tiny that it can't understand that Nexus One was a huge success for what it was intended for, and that Google NEVER intended to make money on phones directly, then I beg you, please go hang out on iPhone forums where you'll find your kin.
Jesus holy Christ.
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I sold my Nexus on Craigslist on Friday. Bought a Vibrant Thursday. After holding that phone for 1 second I knew I had to have it. Screen was downright AMAZING! I love what the Nexus gave me but this is the nature of technology and you can lament it or accept it.
They saying shouldn't be "if you've got nothinng nice to say, say nothing at all" it should be "if you're an idiot, stop talking".
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For f**k's sake, stop trolling the panic.
How many topics a day do we need about this?!
FOR THE LAST F*CKING TIME:
Nexus One's ONLY purpose and the SOLE reason for existence was to promote android and show what it can do on a good hardware. They planned to have Nexus 2 to continue pushing android. Since so many companies like HTC/Motorola/Samsung jumped on an Android band-wagon, Google officially stopped Nexus TWO development and slowing down (NOT STOPPED!!!!!!!) Nexus One sales.
As per Google's CEO own words, "NEXUS ONE WAS SO SUCCESSFULL, THAT WE DON'T NEED NEXUS TWO."
If your brain is so tiny that it can't understand that Nexus One was a huge success for what it was intended for, and that Google NEVER intended to make money on phones directly, then I beg you, please go hang out on iPhone forums where you'll find your kin.
Jesus holy Christ.
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DarkDvr may I have another?
Took the words right out of my mouth...
That's good news, if the phone won't be available discounted through carriers, it will remain rare!!!! A true gem!
As long as we're be able to run Gingerbread when it's released it would keep me happy for many more months
Actually you can still buy one, you just have to pay $25 for the developer channel i think.
i dont know if this is already well known but i just came across it. here is a petition for motorola mobility to unlock the bootloaders. sign if you like, i just did.
http://www.change.org/petitions/motorola-mobility-inc-unlock-all-smartphone-bootloaders-2
This is very well known. Belongs in the general section, and there are already three other threads qwith this. And bout ten threads that turned into talks like this. All unlock talk has already discussed
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Sorry, just trying to help. My search turned up no threads like this, and theres really no reason to be a **** about it.
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Signed
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Sign my butt. This isn't going to work. People have been complaining about locked bootloaders on a plethora of Moto phones for years, and an online petition won't make any sort of difference.
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Sign my butt. This isn't going to work. People have been complaining about locked bootloaders on a plethora of Moto phones for years, and an online petition won't make any sort of difference.
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This
Not being a ****. Just blunt. There are so many and people have been told alot so its too much to write a nice letter each time.
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edit: hope i didnt offend you though. im really just a blunt person, no harm :]
We have been signing petitions since the OG Droid. Never worked.
Rocking with my M3 and XDA app
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I don't have any issue with the concept of this, and I signed it, although I don't think moto cares given the size of the actual modding population. However, why do people throw around the word 'rights' so much? Really, it's a right? No it's a want... I know I'll prolly get derided for this but still... Right?
This convo has been had millions of times. really doesnt need to be repeated to the same effect where it changes nothin
Agreed.
Noble intentions, wasted time.
Either googlerolla will deliver or they won't.
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Sign my butt. This isn't going to work. People have been complaining about locked bootloaders on a plethora of Moto phones for years, and an online petition won't make any sort of difference.
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I agree with you 100%.
I still signed.
That's how frustrated I feel at all this. I'm reminded of my time with the orginal milestone. Checking internet every day to see if someone fgured out how to shoehorn froyo onto the thing. For some reason I thought moto would change... maybe it was because they said they would.
Yeah its a long shot for this petition to do anything, I very sincerely doubt it will. But I would love to be wrong. It only takes two seconds to sign it.
Signed also
While I've signed the petition, I have a ready-made solution that nobody has seemed to mention yet... stop buying Motorola devices.
I've enjoyed Moto's offerings since the OG Droid days, mainly because of the superior build quality, but due to Moto's lock down on devices, and their lack of willingness to placate us, the way HTC has done, the D3 will be the last Motorola device I purchase. Let's face it, performance-wise, Moto doesn't build top-notch machines, the screen quality is sub par, and support is non-existent. Build quality is the ONLY thing they have going for them, and with Samsung making moves to improve their own build quality, I don't see any reason to stick around.
Motorola is not going to change their stance on this matter, and as such, the only way we can really make them listen, is by hitting them where it hurts...their wallets. I believe over 10,000 people have signed the petition (not a huge number, compared to global Moto sales), but 10,000 units at $150 each, equates to $1,500,000 in revenue. Again, that number may be small by comparison, but I'm sure a $1.5m decrease would get someone's attention.
My advice to anyone who's upset enough to sign this petition, is to move to a company with a better track record of being development friendly. Quad-core offerings are on the horizon, and a new Nexus device should be spotted around Christmas...I'll be saving my money, and WILL be jumping ship as soon as I can. The Moto journey has been "fun", but it's time to trade build quality for better performance and support. I'm done buying phones that are (essentially) dead on arrival, and obsolete within 3 months of release... I urge the rest of you to follow suit.
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I signed it but it will not work every phone i have gotten they stop suporting it and i have had my droid 3 for a few mouths and some keys are not working right i have to hit them 3 to 4 times when i get the money and its very unlikly im going with a new phone with a unlocked bootloader or one with one that can have a good work a round but the droid 3 is a good phone dont get me worng i just need a unlocked bootloader that way i will have custom kernels and working cm9
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I would if HTC or samsung had a proper high end QWERTY phone
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I would if HTC or samsung had a proper high end QWERTY phone
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THAT!
i like HTC better than samsung, and being a fan of HTC since the S710 times...and having HTC dev around is pretty helpful.
BUT:
http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-drops-qwerty-phones-78268/
and
http://www.gsmarena.com/at_t_htc_one_x_not_part_of_htcs_bootloader_unlocking_program-news-4210.php
so...their methods are not perfect at all
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I would if HTC or samsung had a proper high end QWERTY phone
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Yes! That's my main issue . However a soft keyboard is looking more and more possible as there won't be any other options...
It's official. Wait times for the next batch is 3 weeks.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/15/nexus-4-backordered/
Thank you for your recent purchase on Google Play. Due to overwhelming demand, your Nexus 4 is on backorder and is expected to ship within three weeks. We'll send you a notification when your order has shipped and will credit the shipping charges.
To check the status of your order at any time, visit the link below: https://wallet.google.com/manage/#transactions
If you would prefer to cancel your order, please reply to this email and our team will assist you. Or you can cancel your order using our online tool. Please follow the instructions found here:
http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2423477
We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you again for your order.
Thanks,
The Google Play Team
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So pretty much anyone who hasn't been able to put in a order (like myself) are not going to be able to order the device for a long time.
Thanks for nothing LG.
I guess I'm stuck phoneless for 3 weeks, or whenever the next batch will be availabe...
But I am also sort of glad that I wasn't able to get my order in so we could see if Google will add the Nexus 4 to AOSP as well as fix up some of the thermal issues.
Question for you... do you even read forums before making a new thread? The email you just quoted has been posted numerous times...
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c_86 said:
Question for you... do you even read forums before making a new thread? The email you just quoted has been posted numerous times...
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It deserves it's own thread.
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It deserves it's own thread.
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It really doesn't. Also the E-mail doesn't say what you seem to think it does. Within 3 weeks means any time from today up untill 3 weeks. I'm not overly optomistic about the time frame myself but the thread title is still misleading at best.
your thread created privileges should be taken away...
Good thing I didnt sell my GNex yet.
Why are ppl in the states so crazy to get it even at the price of over $600 at ebay nearly double...can't they wait for the next wave just few weeks ahead..most other country don't even have play store to purchase that may sound reasonable
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I am totally at a loss with Google on this? Total and epic failure from a company that prides itself on it's meticulous attention to detail and Engineers every little thing. How the hell am I supposed t believe that the company that can crunch massive data sets, route the quickest path to ones home, serve massive amounts of AD's and multimedia can blow it in running a simple Cart driven eCommerce business and fail to anticipate all these fairly obvious headaches coming to light. It really boggles the mind?
I got the Backorder letter too, but even that was very vague and provides no level of detail that can be useful. Already there is conflicting stories of folks getting the bo letter and a shipment letter, some who made two separate orders are left wondering which order is bo'd?
If I had to think out loud, I would surmise that in the effort of cutting costs down for this product they used there F-Team of managers for this product launch ... seriously!
*A notification system that failed to notify!
*No coherent product launch time (Midnight? 9EST? 9PST?) even when we fished around for details and the rumour mill had it at 9PST the damn store opened 30minutes earlier.
*No clear communication on stock levels
*No pre-order ... my god how stupid are the folks who ran this botched job!
*Not enough inventory on hand
*No cart limits like 1 per person or 2 per person ... I could add 100 to my cart and the thing would go through
*No cart queuing/ reserving/ holding mechanism ... ticketmaster holds a ticket for 5-10 minutes the instant it lands on your cart
*Cart/ Site kept crashing
*They didn't update the site to sold-out until late at night leading to the F5 phenomena, with people wasting time without knowing whether they can make an order or not ... fully knowing anyone after the initial 10 minutes after opening the Play store would be on backorder ... might as well keep selling now it makes no more difference at this point at least alleviate those who can't purchase now to join a queue and keep selling. What will happen now is they will launch in spurts resulting in the same level of chaos ... let people join the queue now if they will be backordered in anycase.
*For those of us who got the chance to order the assumption was that they would be able to make a shipment ... no reason why the system would fluctuate from in stock to of stock during the nightmare purchase with all the obstacles it had ... WHY THE HELL DID WE GET BO'd! If there system wasn't as one to one as it seemed with all it's rigidity in how much you can add to cart and it failing during purchase because it became out of stock ... then how the hell did you guys oversell?
No sincere apology, no corrective actions are being laid out ... and that token free shipping in no way salvages this horribly broken Play Store. Heads have to roll ... seriously! I've read stories of better managers/ CEO's, project leads being fired for so little ... the folks who have done an outstanding job of tarnishing the Google brand and have been doing so seeing that this type of nonsense is not new with those familiar with the Play Store ... I am totally new to the Android verse coming from WP7.5, BB7, and Maemo ... this first impression of how Google runs this store is not what I always imagined of Google which I love and use from Email to Google+ ... I even enjoyed GWave, I put up with the Buzz mess up ... but Play is such a horrible brand tarnishing experience and Google needs to improve there retail program or get out of it and let the pro's at Amazon handle it.
This is a joke, I can't believe it Google has been running a psy-ops campaign over at the Play Store to ruin there hard fought branding of Engineered Excellence. I hate the Apple verse and the perception that they created whatever is the next best thing when rather they made a incremental improvement on the natural progression of a product life cycle ... but give credit where it is due they are a behemoth when it comes to the retail experience and the level of customer service ... night and day difference in these experiences Google, please rectify it. It makes it silly to have a building full of the brightest people who can't attempt to sell something online when you dominate on the Internet... it is a running joke this Play Store. Heads must roll!
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Agreed with the others - this letter has been discussed ad nauseam in at least 2 other very large threads, so much so that one person that started another thread has already (as of earlier this afternoon) started a Google Docs spreadsheet where they are analyzing data entered by volunteers from this forum so that graphs and statistical analyses can be made correlating purchase time to shipping confirmation as well as how this data pertains to the email notification you wrote about.
Mods, please close this thread.
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It really doesn't. Also the E-mail doesn't say what you seem to think it does. Within 3 weeks means any time from today up untill 3 weeks. I'm not overly optomistic about the time frame myself but the thread title is still misleading at best.
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Yes I had been reading about people's experiences with this backorder email for several hours already, since it was distributed around 3:00-4:00pm EST this afternoon, and then I see this thread title, and obviously I had to assume that someone had some NEW information, linking to a story at Engadget where perhaps they had confirmed that no additional units would be shipped for at least 3 weeks. But then I find, it was just a useless rehash of news and information the rest of us have been looking at and discussing for nearly 7 hours in other threads.
WTF.
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Agreed with the others - this letter has been discussed ad nauseam in at least 2 other very large threads, so much so that one person that started another thread has already (as of earlier this afternoon) started a Google Docs spreadsheet where they are analyzing data entered by volunteers from this forum so that graphs and statistical analyses can be made correlating purchase time to shipping confirmation as well as how this data pertains to the email notification you wrote about.
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Yes I had been reading about people's experiences with this backorder email for several hours already, since it was distributed around 3:00-4:00pm EST this afternoon, and then I see this thread title, and obviously I had to assume that someone had some NEW information, linking to a story at Engadget where perhaps they had confirmed that no additional units would be shipped for at least 3 weeks. But then I find, it was just a useless rehash of news and information the rest of us have been looking at and discussing for nearly 7 hours in other threads.
WTF.
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Yes but even backorders take "up to 3 weeks" (don't be optimistic). So people who haven't been able to order will obviously have to wait longer than that.
#firstworldproblems
x1000.
Get over it
Guys-found this link where google acknowledges Nexus 5 has excess battery drain and will try and address:
http://www.ibtimes.com/google-worki...android-devices-kitkat-qualcomm-chips-1559771
Docarut said:
Guys-found this link where google acknowledges Nexus 5 has excess battery drain and will try and address:
http://www.ibtimes.com/google-worki...android-devices-kitkat-qualcomm-chips-1559771
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Word of advice, DO NOT trust anything IBTIMES says.
On another note I did see other sites reporting that Google knows about the battery drain issue and that a fix should be soon on its way but none of the sites I read from were credible sites.
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Yes, google has indeed accepted this bug and working on a fix for it in the next update. However, they haven't exactly given a timeline for the next update!
Source: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=60058#c475
Think it should be made clear that its caused by the Camera.... if you don't see " mm-qcamera-daemon" in your battery , you don't have excessive drain
Its not going to be a miracle shot for amazing battery life on the N5 .
OuncE718 said:
Word of advice, DO NOT trust anything IBTIMES says.
On another note I did see other sites reporting that Google knows about the battery drain issue and that a fix should be soon on its way but none of the sites I read from were credible sites.
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Thanks for letting me know, I will keep that in mind. Feel free to delete my post if next to useless.
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Thanks for letting me know, I will keep that in mind. Feel free to delete my post if next to useless.
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You're welcome and your post isn't necessarily useless. It will help others that may have had the same question as yourself.
Credible sites that I love to go on are www.Androidpolice.com, www.Engadget.com & www.Phonedog.com[url]
Of course th...e the ones I use daily.
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Anyone getting excessive drain from Google+ in getting it on all my nexus devices (2012,2013 and 5)
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Google said that it can't provide a timeline for when the update would be released “due to all the testing we need to do for this and other fixes.”
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Come on IBTimes, first rule of IBTimes: no ETAs! ?
OuncE718 said:
Word of advice, DO NOT trust anything IBTIMES says.
On another note I did see other sites reporting that Google knows about the battery drain issue and that a fix should be soon on its way but none of the sites I read from were credible sites.
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HU bro?!
I've been having poor battery the past few days. 4-5 hrs unplugged, 1 hour screen, 2-3 hours playing music and it went to 20%. Used to only use up 30-40% last week.
Will have to monitor closely.
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Anyone getting excessive drain from Google+ in getting it on all my nexus devices (2012,2013 and 5)
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Yes.... It just started a couple days ago
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Blario said:
HU bro?!
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I'm confused. What's "HU"?
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I'm confused. What's "HU"?
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That answers it
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That answers it
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That answers what? What does "HU" mean?
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Yes.... It just started a couple days ago
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I've restricted so permissions for it in app ops. Just charged my phone so I'm going to see if it does it again.
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No battery issues here. A day and half with 6 hours screen time is the norm.
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
ibtimes?
Funny coincidence -- I wrote that article on the Nexus 5. I came into the forum looking for more hardware hacks like the one where you drill holes into the back of the Nexus 5, since I just broke my screen and was wondering if there was anything else I could tinker with while my case was open to make the N5 better. Couldn't find anything, but was happy to see someone shared my story.
Then, I saw @OuncE718's warning about the site I work for.
All I can say is that I stand by my reporting. My stories are factual, and trustworthy. I strive to adhere to the Society for Professional Journalists' Code of Ethics. (sorry for being long-winded, but I just want to start a dialogue).
I presented the facts as they appeared in that Google forum, and informed readers who didn't know about that particular battery life issue, as well as the Google's awareness of the issue -- and the project manager's comments on the matter.
The reason I didn't provide a timeline is because Google refuses to give a timeline for the fix -- it will likely appear in the 4.4.3 or a future release of Android. However, rather than speculating on that, I presented the facts. The truth is, Google doesn't know exactly when they will fix it.
Since I am in contact with Google's media relations, I can sometimes get answers to questions. More often than not, I am writing about something that Google can't talk about, like a future release, and they will not respond. However, especially when it considers issues that have not been brought to their attention, they will reach out to me and provide a statement. I would appreciate it if everybody here considered me a resource. The reason that I became a writer was to provide a public service when I can.
I want readers to be able to read my stories, and have some faith that I am doing my best to inform them truthfully.
If anyone has something newsworthy they would like to talk about, questions (or criticisms) about one of my stories, or a tip for something that they think would make a good story, I suggest you reach out to me on Twitter (@TommyLikey) or via email. Use my first initial (my name is Tom), then a period, then halleck at ibtimes dot com.
I write for the tech team. We strive to do good work, and I can't answer for the organization as a whole, but I can tell you that in my experience, it is filled with smart people who are trying to turn a newer news organization into something that we, and you our readers, can be proud of.
I am interested in your thoughts, concerns and criticisms.
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Funny coincidence -- I wrote that article on the Nexus 5. I came into the forum looking for more hardware hacks like the one where you drill holes into the back of the Nexus 5, since I just broke my screen and was wondering if there was anything else I could tinker with while my case was open to make the N5 better. Couldn't find anything, but was happy to see someone shared my story.
Then, I saw @OuncE718's warning about the site I work for.
All I can say is that I stand by my reporting. My stories are factual, and trustworthy. I strive to adhere to the Society for Professional Journalists' Code of Ethics. (sorry for being long-winded, but I just want to start a dialogue).
I presented the facts as they appeared in that Google forum, and informed readers who didn't know about that particular battery life issue, as well as the Google's awareness of the issue -- and the project manager's comments on the matter.
The reason I didn't provide a timeline is because Google refuses to give a timeline for the fix -- it will likely appear in the 4.4.3 or a future release of Android. However, rather than speculating on that, I presented the facts. The truth is, Google doesn't know exactly when they will fix it.
Since I am in contact with Google's media relations, I can sometimes get answers to questions. More often than not, I am writing about something that Google can't talk about, like a future release, and they will not respond. However, especially when it considers issues that have not been brought to their attention, they will reach out to me and provide a statement. I would appreciate it if everybody here considered me a resource. The reason that I became a writer was to provide a public service when I can.
I want readers to be able to read my stories, and have some faith that I am doing my best to inform them truthfully.
If anyone has something newsworthy they would like to talk about, questions (or criticisms) about one of my stories, or a tip for something that they think would make a good story, I suggest you reach out to me on Twitter (@TommyLikey) or via email. Use my first initial (my name is Tom), then a period, then halleck at ibtimes dot com.
I write for the tech team. We strive to do good work, and I can't answer for the organization as a whole, but I can tell you that in my experience, it is filled with smart people who are trying to turn a newer news organization into something that we, and you our readers, can be proud of.
I am interested in your thoughts, concerns and criticisms.
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I never discredited you but I definitely discredited the site you work for. In my experience ibtimes has made a good amount of useless articles. There has been nothing credible that I have read from ibtimes.
Androidpolice.com has been way more credible in my experience. Maybe it's your colleagues that have written these useless articles. Idk
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Well, I apologize for those useless stories. I would just say, feel free to discredit me if I am doing wrong. The reason I put the link to that message board in the story was to provide a source for the story. Let me know if anybody here has any ideas or questions, and know that I and my team are striving to be a reliable source for news.
If you have a problem with a story, you can (almost) always reach out to the reporter.
Hello everyone
I can no longer read the forum from my Oppo via the tapatalk application, why? does anyone have the same problem?
Tapatalk integration has been removed. It won't work anymore. We have a new XDA app: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...rolling-out-now.4199599/page-37#post-84148669
Now that is a name I have not heard in a long, long time. I was an early Tapatalk user. Bought it when they had a paid version. Thought it was great. Since then, many forums have adopted a mobile view that is more than sufficient for light mobile use. Not quite as good as Tapatalk, though.
Tapatalk had two major issues before it started trying to swindle its own users. One, if you paid (them) for the app, they would stop serving ads from the forums, costing the forum operators money. Two, the forum owners had to install a Tapatalk backend onto their forum, and that always had issues. So forum owners were going out of their way to do something which not only did not benefit them, but it cost them money in ad revenue. Then Tapatalk started cheating its paid users by de-listing the paid app and pushing a freemium one in its place.
Tapatalk can take a flying leap.
That said, sad to see the XDA app that replaced it is not on the iOS App Store. While I still love Android in general, I'm an iPhone guy now. I used to be an iPhone hater, so it's kind of funny, but the whole smartphone wars thing was overblown, it was never really any good for anybody except the corporations, who loved it when people would swear off one brand, only to buy into another, and push the fanboys deeper into their trenches. Today, my tech loyalty is only to myself — that is, "what tech is best for me?". And, this year, a $250 iPhone SE 2020 was what was best for me. It's not the fastest or prettiest thing out there, but it does calls, texts, and music, which is all I really need anyway. (And I got the red one, so it's pretty damn sexy.) And it's an iPhone, so it's gonna get updates for five or six years, because that's how they roll. Still, I never got the hang of forums on phones, outside of Tapatalk, so, I'll probably stick to desktop usage regardless.
the_scotsman said:
Tapatalk integration has been removed. It won't work anymore. We have a new XDA app: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...rolling-out-now.4199599/page-37#post-84148669
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Nice , thanks
dragontology said:
Now that is a name I have not heard in a long, long time. I was an early Tapatalk user. Bought it when they had a paid version. Thought it was great. Since then, many forums have adopted a mobile view that is more than sufficient for light mobile use. Not quite as good as Tapatalk, though.
Tapatalk had two major issues before it started trying to swindle its own users. One, if you paid (them) for the app, they would stop serving ads from the forums, costing the forum operators money. Two, the forum owners had to install a Tapatalk backend onto their forum, and that always had issues. So forum owners were going out of their way to do something which not only did not benefit them, but it cost them money in ad revenue. Then Tapatalk started cheating its paid users by de-listing the paid app and pushing a freemium one in its place.
Tapatalk can take a flying leap.
That said, sad to see the XDA app that replaced it is not on the iOS App Store. While I still love Android in general, I'm an iPhone guy now. I used to be an iPhone hater, so it's kind of funny, but the whole smartphone wars thing was overblown, it was never really any good for anybody except the corporations, who loved it when people would swear off one brand, only to buy into another, and push the fanboys deeper into their trenches. Today, my tech loyalty is only to myself — that is, "what tech is best for me?". And, this year, a $250 iPhone SE 2020 was what was best for me. It's not the fastest or prettiest thing out there, but it does calls, texts, and music, which is all I really need anyway. (And I got the red one, so it's pretty damn sexy.) And it's an iPhone, so it's gonna get updates for five or six years, because that's how they roll. Still, I never got the hang of forums on phones, outside of Tapatalk, so, I'll probably stick to desktop usage regardless.
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Exactly my sentiment. I ditched the Android after more than 10 years... And for good now after getting tired of all the Samsung crap and constant lagging and planned obsolescence... And I'm quite happy with the iPhone despite being a real hater of Apple for the way they did things and their pricing. It seems they got beaten to it at last by Samsung. Anyway I loved Tapatalk for reading the XDA and commenting. And this move is kind of annoying especially as an app for XDA is missing on iOS. I guess I'll have to use the forum only on my PC from now on...
sabonev said:
Exactly my sentiment. I ditched the Android after more than 10 years... And for good now after getting tired of all the Samsung crap and constant lagging and planned obsolescence... And I'm quite happy with the iPhone despite being a real hater of Apple for the way they did things and their pricing. It seems they got beaten to it at last by Samsung. Anyway I loved Tapatalk for reading the XDA and commenting. And this move is kind of annoying especially as an app for XDA is missing on iOS. I guess I'll have to use the forum only on my PC from now on...
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XDA has been optimized for mobile and is excellent on Mobile browsers.