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A Fried Kaiser

I managed to fry my kaisers circuits by plugging a 4 AMP car charger into the USB power port.
It only took one second, i smelled the smoke and instantly unplugged the cable, but it was too late.
Surprisingly the device was still powered and functioning, so i didn't freak out. The battery was already dead. after around 30 seconds it died again, i walked back home and tried charging it with mains adapter with no luck.
Next morning, i took my handset to a local electronics repair shop to check it, and i told them the story. they called me back and said the motherboard needs to be replaced. and it would cost me around $470. (and its not covered by manufacturers warranty. ouch!!)
After hours of cursing and smashing my head into the steering wheel, i thought i'll pick it back and try something my self.
the part where the device stayed on even after the smoke came out led me to believe that the board is still fine. and that only the charging port got fried.
the problem is, I don't have a desk charger to charge my battery and test my theory, a disassembly guide would also be very helpful.
if the main mother board was really fried, is there any place that i can buy it from? i did some goggling around with no luck.Anything cheaper than what these guys are asking for would be great, i have a feeling they are trying to rip me off.
If any of you guys can help me out, id be grateful.

hoaxbox said:
I managed to fry my kaisers circuits by plugging a 4 AMP car charger into the USB power port.
It only took one second, i smelled the smoke and instantly unplugged the cable, but it was too late.
Surprisingly the device was still powered and functioning, so i didn't freak out. The battery was already dead. after around 30 seconds it died again, i walked back home and tried charging it with mains adapter with no luck.
Next morning, i took my handset to a local electronics repair shop to check it, and i told them the story. they called me back and said the motherboard needs to be replaced. and it would cost me around $470. (and its not covered by manufacturers warranty. ouch!!)
After hours of cursing and smashing my head into the steering wheel, i thought i'll pick it back and try something my self.
the part where the device stayed on even after the smoke came out led me to believe that the board is still fine. and that only the charging port got fried.
the problem is, I don't have a desk charger to charge my battery and test my theory, a disassembly guide would also be very helpful.
if the main mother board was really fried, is there any place that i can buy it from? i did some goggling around with no luck.Anything cheaper than what these guys are asking for would be great, i have a feeling they are trying to rip me off.
If any of you guys can help me out, id be grateful.
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I have a brand new AT&T Tilt ( kaiserII HTC8925) for sale i can sell to you for $375.00 New In the box never been used. PM me if interested.

Sorry I can't help in this matter, but I thought i would post this here rather than start a whole new thread.
I have heard lots of horror stories of in-car chargers frying kaisers. Has anyone got an in-car charger that works?

gary.bannister said:
Sorry I can't help in this matter, but I thought i would post this here rather than start a whole new thread.
I have heard lots of horror stories of in-car chargers frying kaisers. Has anyone got an in-car charger that works?
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Order one that is made for the Kaiser...a lot of people are trying to use old chargers just cause the tip is the same.
I got my stuff from PocketSolutions.com

Car chargers that work for the 8525 should work fine for the 8925. It just can't do that "boost" charging feature the Tilt supposedly has.

Bellfazar said:
Car chargers that work for the 8525 should work fine for the 8925. It just can't do that "boost" charging feature the Tilt supposedly has.
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hmmm.. thats got me scared, cuz im using a razr charger for my tilt. ive used it multiple times with no probs so far...hope its not damaging my phone tho

omaralt said:
hmmm.. thats got me scared, cuz im using a razr charger for my tilt. ive used it multiple times with no probs so far...hope its not damaging my phone tho
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That one won't damage the Kaiser, but it has only half the mA of the proper one. This can sometimes cause problems if the charge level of the battery is very low. For charging from time to time and when battery isn't near empty you will be ok.
Mike

well a quick tip would probably be checking the fuze on your charger, anything below an amp wouldnt do much damage. -.-;
4 amps fried my tilts motherboard, so watch out guys
still looking for a service manual, now that my phone is dead, i want to dissect it,

I'm using a cheapy chinese one made for an Imate Jam if that helps.
Joe

the part of the board responsible for charging is probably what went up in smoke - you probably smelt (smelled?) resistors/capacitors overheating/melting - they said a total mobo replace as that circuitry is probably all on the same board - sure you might be able to replace it yourself but i dunno - might be a bit of a mega mission what with all these micro components around on these sorts of device

fusi said:
the part of the board responsible for charging is probably what went up in smoke - you probably smelt (smelled?) resistors/capacitors overheating/melting - they said a total mobo replace as that circuitry is probably all on the same board - sure you might be able to replace it yourself but i dunno - might be a bit of a mega mission what with all these micro components around on these sorts of device
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Yep, these devices now have multilayer boards that make it virtually impossible to do a bit of home soldering/component replacement on.
Bring back the days of my youth when we had valves (tubes in US I believe), they were nice - and kept your hands warm as you soldered away in a freezing garage
Mike

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I opened up the case and unscrewed my way to the burnt part of the board.
thanks to mike and the manual he posted on some other fourm
http://www.modaco.com/content/Pocke...58716/HTC-Service-Manuals-Dismantling-Guides/
This is the main board
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7447/ks1jj3.jpg
This is the same board from the other side with the burnt IC
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2717/ks2wi1.jpg
And a close up
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4416/ks3nv1.jpg
Closer
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5944/ks4lu6.jpg
Okay now i can at least see where the damage is.
Still stubborn that i am, I did not believe that this IC killed the entire mobo, so i invested in a desk charger for the battery and charged it up fully.
I just tested it now and to my surprise it WORKED!!
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/5070/ks5vj6.jpg
Of course, my joy ride did not last for long as the device started heating up. I switched it back off once i felt the abnormal amount of heat generated.
I tried it again after it cooled down. This time I kept it for around three mins, and again it heated up, at the end of, it just shut it self off. (still heating up).
After that scary little experiment i learned few things:
1- The device motherboard is alive, there is no need to replace the entire board.
2- The burnt IC is probably meant to control the usb port and the power, therefore my usb port is useless at this stage.
3- charging the battery externally wont help much without resolving the heat issue.
I tried to look up diagrams for the devices board and the only thing i could found is this:
http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/diagram_msm7200_cs.pdf
which is useless.
Any help would be much appreciated..
cheers

Can anyone help me with this?
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5944/ks4lu6.jpg
the chip burnt shown in the picture above needs to be replaced on my tytnz mobo.
can anyone give me more details about it or where can i find a replacement, all i could read on it is the (QRA) part, if anyone has a tytn II could you have a closer look, grab me a serial number maybe.

hoaxbox said:
Can anyone help me with this?
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5944/ks4lu6.jpg
the chip burnt shown in the picture above needs to be replaced on my tytnz mobo.
can anyone give me more details about it or where can i find a replacement, all i could read on it is the (QRA) part, if anyone has a tytn II could you have a closer look, grab me a serial number maybe.
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anyone? lols still waiting btw

am sure most of the kaiser form viewers have a kaiser.
if any of you do can you please check that chip on your device board, i have lost mine and trying to replace it.
check if theres anything written on it, any information about it would be could be helpful.
thanks

Inductive charging heat!

This issue should be taken a lot more seriously when Google/LG are touting wireless charging as a feature. This device gets pretty hot when charging wirelessly. Please comment if you're also having this issue. I feel like it is grossly underreported compared to the cracked glass, sound in speaker, etc. (Probably because not a lot of people have inductive chargers yet).
P.S. I'm using the Energizer single spot charger.
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My phones have always gotten warm while charging without inductive. This one I would imagine might be a little more pronounced since glass does conduct heat much better than plastic. Just the nature of inductive charging I would imagine would create more heat on top of that.

Welcome to the world of physics.

I use the LG WCP-700 Qi charger and my phone does get warm but not hot by any means. Definitely not warm enough to worry.
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I am using the energizer charger and while my phone gets warm, it is noting I am concerned about.
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Where there is energy, there is heat.

Does the inductive charger generate heat?
If so then it's just an additive effect, especially that most chargers being used unlike the still MIA charging orb (GOOGLE!!! GRrrr) cover up the entire back of the N4 and prevent any ventilation.

Energy cannot be created or destroyed. Ijs
Furthermore and piggybacking off an earlier post regarding glass conductivity, I've refrained from purchasing the inductive chargers that are currently on the market. I haven't thoroughly done any research about the glass of the N4, but the inductive charging kits typically are used concurrently with a device appropriate sleeve. In that sleeve is the inductor and terminations to the devices power port. That sleeve can be wrapped in glass or plastic and most likely it takes the brunt of the energy (power charging) sparring the device. All that being said, I personally don't know the standards if any for power output, but it has to be enough to send energy through the sleeve to the device at a rate comparable to traditional charging methods. So if people are reporting the glass on their N4 cracking because of inductive charging, it's plausible reason is the charger is overrated/phone material is underrated. BTW, that may be a reason why Google hasn't marketed the infamous charging orb we all have seen.
That's just my theory/opinion. Unfortunately I don't care enough to do that research on those gadgets, but interested in what others find.
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SBGS-FTW said:
Energy cannot be created or destroyed. Ijs
Furthermore and piggybacking off an earlier post regarding glass conductivity, I've refrained from purchasing the inductive chargers that are currently on the market. I haven't thoroughly done any research about the glass of the N4, but the inductive charging kits typically are used concurrently with a device appropriate sleeve. In that sleeve is the inductor and terminations to the devices power port. That sleeve can be wrapped in glass or plastic and most likely it takes the brunt of the energy (power charging) sparring the device. All that being said, I personally don't know the standards if any for power output, but it has to be enough to send energy through the sleeve to the device at a rate comparable to traditional charging methods. So if people are reporting the glass on their N4 cracking because of inductive charging, it's plausible reason is the charger is overrated/phone material is underrated. BTW, that may be a reason why Google hasn't marketed the infamous charging orb we all have seen.
That's just my theory/opinion. Unfortunately I don't care enough to do that research on those gadgets, but interested in what others find.
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*Stock*Unrooted*4.2.1*OG LL3*
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Nexus 4 is qi compliant...as the lg charger and the energizer one ... That mean that they are fully compatible together and they all respect qi regulation standard...
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I wonder if placing four small rubber bumpers on the wireless chargers face plate, and then place the phone on the bumpers may act as an air gap between the charger and the phone, perhaps help in cooling?

320flyboy320 said:
I wonder if placing four small rubber bumpers on the wireless chargers face plate, and then place the phone on the bumpers may act as an air gap between the charger and the phone, perhaps help in cooling?
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I mentioned this in another post somewhere, but I have the LG WCP-700 and have one of those square grippy dashboard mats on top of it. Mainly to keep the phone from sliding, but I did notice that it does charge cooler than when I didn't have it on there.
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I originally bought a Zens inductive charger, it was nice but had this feature where it turned off when it was done charging and then turned right back on again. Basically when the phone was charged it would go through this cycle a couple of times a minute which was pretty annoying with the notifications windows that would open on the phone.
So, I bought the LG unit to compare. And the LG unit doesn't have that issue, and it does get warm (though not hot).
But...
I can't tell if the unit just stays on or not. The green light is flashing which I *assume* means it is charging. Even when the phone is charged.
Is that your experience too?

Has anyone tried using the inductive charger with the bumper case on? Does it work and does the small gap help at all?
sent from my perfect 32GB Nexus 7

d_phekt said:
I use the LG WCP-700 Qi charger and my phone does get warm but not hot by any means. Definitely not warm enough to worry.
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Same here... My phone never gets hot unless I'm gaming hardcore or running benchmarks(which I don't do often) so I have the LG charger too so maybe it's the brand of charger or a problem with the charger itself?

Using the Maxell air voltage wireless mat and the intended phone getd no hotter than when plugged into the mains
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Overheated!!!!
Duuuuuuuuuuuuude,
I saw your post and HAD to reply. I have been experiencing the SAME issues!! Phone gets QUITE warm and even HOT while charging wirelessly!!
THIS MORNING I awoke to find my screen a mess of grey and yellow shît!! I got pretty worried so I powered it off... Upon powering it on again, the screen was light grey and washed out, and flickering slightly... As it booted and returned to the home screen, everything in terms of color went back to normal...
I called Google Play this morning (At around 07:30) and the guy was NO help at all. I'm going to call again later to see if I can get someone with a brain (trust me, the guy was not helpful AT ALL, and went as far as to make fun of Indian accents LoL, moron. He thought I said that I was in India, but said it didn't sound like it. I replied "I'm not, but I could be". He then proceeded to say "No, I'm am not in India" with a mocking Indian accent, to which I replied "Well my girlfriend is LoL").
Anyway, using Wireless Charger LG WCP-700 (The "Verizon" wireless charging pad).
I'm contemplating a factory reset... although I HATE the idea of having to back everything up and restore...
I'll post back when/if I have more information...

A-Squared said:
Duuuuuuuuuuuuude,
I saw your post and HAD to reply. I have been experiencing the SAME issues!! Phone gets QUITE warm and even HOT while charging wirelessly!!
THIS MORNING I awoke to find my screen a mess of grey and yellow shît!! I got pretty worried so I powered it off... Upon powering it on again, the screen was light grey and washed out, and flickering slightly... As it booted and returned to the home screen, everything in terms of color went back to normal...
I called Google Play this morning (At around 07:30) and the guy was NO help at all. I'm going to call again later to see if I can get someone with a brain (trust me, the guy was not helpful AT ALL, and went as far as to make fun of Indian accents LoL, moron. He thought I said that I was in India, but said it didn't sound like it. I replied "I'm not, but I could be". He then proceeded to say "No, I'm am not in India" with a mocking Indian accent, to which I replied "Well my girlfriend is LoL").
Anyway, using Wireless Charger LG WCP-700 (The "Verizon" wireless charging pad).
I'm contemplating a factory reset... although I HATE the idea of having to back everything up and restore...
I'll post back when/if I have more information...
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Yeah, racism will totally help you get a new phone.
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LoL...
bfspider said:
Welcome to the world of physics.
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Really? Nooooooooooooooooooooo. Surely you MUST be joking?? Physics?? You mean that's how my electric toothbrush has been charging wirelessly since I was 10 too?? Dude... I am floored.
Helpful reply you posted there...
I'm not sure we care about "physics" here per se, I think we care more about finding out why our phones are charging 5-8*C hotter wirelessly than wired... I also think that we're more interested in resolving the problem of waking up to find a phone that has CRASHED due to overheating while wireless charging. And MAYBE (bear with me, I know this is a stretch), maybe we're more interested in getting replies from other people that have had similar experiences than we are in being welcomed to the world of physics... I think we might be more interested in getting posts that provide insight into the problem reported by the initial poster. I know, I know, I'm grasping at straws here... B-Fields, induction, inductive loops, conversion losses, and the MANY related topics are very interesting (really they are, I studied engineering and am fascinated by these things)... It would be nice if you could actually contribute something to the thread. Otherwise, why bother posting? Beats me... what do I know.
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redthunda69 said:
Yeah, racism will totally help you get a new phone.
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Hey Ace, it was the Google phone rep that made the racist remark. My girlfriend is Indian, and I would never have made a disparaging remark like that to total stranger. You don't even make any sense dude. Maybe I should edit my post to make it clearer.
How about you learn how to read before slinging accusations . Why would I come on here to post racist remarks?? I came here looking for information and with a desire to contribute information so that we might better understand the problem... I'm currently on my second call with Google and will report anything noteworthy after the call...
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Second called to Google Play Device Support (shortened version):
Me: Phone charges at 32-34*C with USB, rises to 39-40*C when charging wirelessly AND charges more slowly. This morning I awoke to a crashed phone and had to power cycle it, plus the display was washed out grey until the home screen appeared.
Rep: Maybe the charger is the problem.
Me: I have TWO chargers, both give me the same problem. Also, the WCP-700 was submitted to the FCC on August 23rd for certification along with the Nexus 4. They were tested together...
Rep: Maybe the charger is not compatible.
Me: The charger is Qi compliant and it's made by LG , the phone is also Qi compliant, so it IS/SHOULD BE compatible.Additionally I have read posts from other users that report NO problems with wireless charging with the same Nexus 4 and WCP-700.
Rep: Well we support the phone not the charger, you should call LG
And that's what I got out of my second call to Google Play Support...
Next: Calling LG...

A-Squared said:
Phone charges at 32-34*C with USB, rises to 39-40*C when charging wirelessly AND charges more slowly
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I think longer charge times are a given with inductive charging as it is not 100% efficient transfer of current. Guessing that the current that is not transfered in that less than 100% process is given off in heat. In any event, 40°C isn't very hot, and I can't imagine that temp was responsible for what you woke up to.
Is it possible that something else is going on?

Temps...
Solutions Etcetera said:
I think longer charge times are a given with inductive charging as it is not 100% efficient transfer of current. Guessing that the current that is not transfered in that less than 100% process is given off in heat. In any event, 40°C isn't very hot, and I can't imagine that temp was responsible for what you woke up to.
Is it possible that something else is going on?
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Hi there! Thanks for your reply.
I think what you're saying is very plausible, and I would agree in general (that induction incurs losses). BUT, there is evidence from people posting that wireless charging works as fast as USB charging does for them. My Aunt & Uncle have Galaxy S III's that they use with this WCP-700 Wireless Charging Pad, and their phones charge just as fast wirelessly . It IS possible of course that the Nexus 4 might charge more slowly... This is definitely what I have observed, but I don't think it's "normal" due to the substantially higher temps :-/.
Honestly I have to disagree with you on the temperature thing... I think 40*C (104*F) is pretty high. It's not insanely high, but it's high enough that I wouldn't want the phone to be exposed to those temperatures every time it's charged, weeks, months and eventually a year or two... Heat is the "enemy" of batteries and electronics in general. It's high enough to be uncomfortable to hold (e.g. back glass pressed against my face at 40*C). I've had several phones (SonyEricsson P910 & T30, HTC Sensation, HTC Amaze, iPhone 4S and 5 for work) and I don't recall any of these phones ever getting this hot while charging normally (USB of course).
40*C is ~20% higher than my average USB charging temps, and I don't feel that a 20% increase can be accounted for by induction losses.
I'm going to stream Netflix to get my battery down to 40-50% and then throw it on the wireless plate and see how high the temps go... If some of the users that are having success with wireless charging, maybe they could post their battery temps for comparison?
NOW that I'm looking back at my battery temperature history, I see that the temperature went from 32.2*C to 46.3*C on the 26th of November from about 13:00 to 14:00 which was a Monday and I probably had it on the Wireless Charging plate... 46*C is insane for a phone, so I definitely think something is screwy...
I'll report back with the results of dropping it to 40-50% and back to 100% (or as close as possible) with the wireless charger...
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Solutions Etcetera said:
I think longer charge times are a given with inductive charging as it is not 100% efficient transfer of current. Guessing that the current that is not transfered in that less than 100% process is given off in heat. In any event, 40°C isn't very hot, and I can't imagine that temp was responsible for what you woke up to.
Is it possible that something else is going on?
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"and I can't imagine that temp was responsible for what you woke up to."
Honestly, I think it's related. I haven't seen that behavior at any other point in time... I've had navigation going, music streaming at the same time, bunches of apps open in the background, phone calls, Netflix, taking photos... and the phone has been perfectly stable, not a single crash. The only time I ever found the phone unresponsive and quite frankly looking like shît was this morning after a wireless charge ...

(Solved?) Nexus 7 smelled bad, battery life also bad since...

Hey guys, I used this search function, together with Google, but I can't seem to find any information, I know there was a thread like that, but I can't find it... So sorry if someone is annoyed ^^
(32GB 3G)
So I got my nexus 7 for a few weeks now, and four days ago it started to smell burned while charging... After this smell, battery life seems weird.. MAX. Stats are a few hours standby time (10) (lost 1% per hour with everything turned off) and 3-4 hours screen time until its discharged.. Before that, max stats were 1 day and 6-7 screen on time...
While charging, I am now smelling like a dog around my tablet and charger (which scares some people around me) but it doesn't smell anymore, and its charging properly.
So I'm not sure, if it REALLY is broken, or its just something I'm telling myself .. Because to be honest, if the battery would be screwed it should smell again and should charge like hell, or slow as a snail.., but charging is fine, like day one..,
I'm searching for people who had a smelling nexus 7 and what they've done.., and what consequences they had...
Thank you in advance
P.S.:To help myself, I'll charge it full (again) and make a MANUAL (fastboot) factory reset, maybe this helps... And also I can say it can't be an app, because I use the same I used when I bought it... So ^^
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Oh, and I'm 100% Stock, and I never dropped it..
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fushla said:
Oh, and I'm 100% Stock, and I never dropped it..
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Where did you get the device from? It may be worth just swapping it if you purchased from the Play Store.

dstryrwiz said:
Where did you get the device from? It may be worth just swapping it if you purchased from the Play Store.
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Got it from Media Markt, but its an act to get there, (for me) since I got no car ^^ its insured also... So I'll get a replacement for sure, but maybe I don't have to... I had a lot devices which smelled weird once but worked for years... So, maybe it just sucked too much power once.. The problem is, I can't live without this tablet so maybe I'll call MM and ask if they have one in stock to get.. But again, maybe I don't have to.. That's why I'm searching "smelling" people
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fushla said:
Got it from Media Markt, but its an act to get there, (for me) since I got no car ^^ its insured also... So I'll get a replacement for sure, but maybe I don't have to... I had a lot devices which smelled weird once but worked for years... So, maybe it just sucked too much power once.. The problem is, I can't live without this tablet so maybe I'll call MM and ask if they have one in stock to get.. But again, maybe I don't have to.. That's why I'm searching "smelling" people
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You must have some Labrador or Blood Hound in your DNA to be able to smell your devices charging lol.
On a serious note, have you tried watching the temps of the CPU and battery while its charging?
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CharliesTheMan said:
You must have some Labrador or Blood Hound in your DNA to be able to smell your devices charging lol.
On a serious note, have you tried watching the temps of the CPU and battery while its charging?
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Yup, everything was normal.. This is what scares me I did a factory reset now... After setting everything up, (open all installed apps, go through settings, sync, update apps, setting the phone up in general, one reboot), I lost 2%, which is average ^^ I'm testing now.. But its confusing
Edit: and while charging, it didn't smell... This is weird...
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fushla said:
Hey guys, I used this search function, together with Google, but I can't seem to find any information, I know there was a thread like that, but I can't find it... So sorry if someone is annoyed ^^
(32GB 3G)
So I got my nexus 7 for a few weeks now, and four days ago it started to smell burned while charging... After this smell, battery life seems weird.. MAX. Stats are a few hours standby time (10) (lost 1% per hour with everything turned off) and 3-4 hours screen time until its discharged.. Before that, max stats were 1 day and 6-7 screen on time...
While charging, I am now smelling like a dog around my tablet and charger (which scares some people around me) but it doesn't smell anymore, and its charging properly.
So I'm not sure, if it REALLY is broken, or its just something I'm telling myself .. Because to be honest, if the battery would be screwed it should smell again and should charge like hell, or slow as a snail.., but charging is fine, like day one..,
I'm searching for people who had a smelling nexus 7 and what they've done.., and what consequences they had...
Thank you in advance
P.S.:To help myself, I'll charge it full (again) and make a MANUAL (fastboot) factory reset, maybe this helps... And also I can say it can't be an app, because I use the same I used when I bought it... So ^^
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Going by your description of the problem, I would be leaning towards strongly suspecting that a component has (or is in the process of) burning out.
Does your Nexus smell when you charge it on either a different charger or PC USB port? If not then it may just be the charger is going bad - which in the big picture is no biggie (better the charger than the Nexus)
If on the other hand, the Nexus smells regardless of where you charge it, I would be seriously considering a warranty claim fairly soon. It may have been a freak occurance, but ultimately it has the potential to have drastically reduced the overall lifespan of your device - even if absolute failure has not occured.
Obviously it's your call buddy, but it shouldn't have happened in the first instance, and i'd be a bit paranoid that it could be a sign of worse to come.

hundred_miles_high said:
Going by your description of the problem, I would be leaning towards strongly suspecting that a component has (or is in the process of) burning out.
Does your Nexus smell when you charge it on either a different charger or PC USB port? If not then it may just be the charger is going bad - which in the big picture is no biggie (better the charger than the Nexus)
If on the other hand, the Nexus smells regardless of where you charge it, I would be seriously considering a warranty claim fairly soon. It may have been a freak occurance, but ultimately it has the potential to have drastically reduced the overall lifespan of your device - even if absolute failure has not occured.
Obviously it's your call buddy, but it shouldn't have happened in the first instance, and i'd be a bit paranoid that it could be a sign of worse to come.
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The charger was my second thought.. I don't trust these things ^^
Right after this smell accident I unplugged it, and now I'm using a new socket to charge on. No smelling on laptop and the new socket... But if the old socket was the reason, then maybe when I use it the next time it will go up in flames, or my nexus does.. I'm going to watch out the next days, if any weird behavior is going on I'm going to replace it... But one thing I won't do: charge it overnight
I'm going to check the old socket.. But I need to go into my room, I don't want others to see me smelling lol
Edit: no burned smell...
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Sooo, a little info for you and me.
After the full wipe yesterday, I'm on 28% left, with 24h standby, and 5h 48m display time, which is normal for me.. So it seems that the battery is fine (again?)
I'm going to charge it now, and as always, I'm running around the socket, charger and tablet.. I'll edit the post with the info after the full charge..
EDIT: no smelling after & while charging..
I assume it really was the socket I charged on, which I now toss into the trash..
Thanks to everyone who answered
And if I get weird behavior I'll send it in ^^
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We need something like this.

Obviously not this particular one, but something to split the micro usb so we can charge the phone while using the VR, which is my only real issue with it, aside from phone warming up pretty bad.

It probably would be easier to modify headset itself and build charging port into headset or some kind flat cable with microusb on one end and another end could fit betwen battery and phone contacts or maybe someone discovered which are charging pins under back cover (used by charging back)
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Agreed, really wish samsung would have added charging, the only real downfall of the VR.
How about the QI mod I've seen people talk about? Seems like a good idea, basically just stick the pad in the front of the visor, aside from health risks from doing this lol, I'm worried that the VR will drain the battery faster than the QI charger will charge, but if anyone has any experience with it, I'm all ears!
Hopefully, the next version of the VR will allow charging.

They need to figure out the overheating before dealing with the charging if its hot already, imagine how much worse it would be while charging! At least we can quick charge!

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Obviously not this particular one, but something to split the micro usb so we can charge the phone while using the VR, which is my only real issue with it, aside from phone warming up pretty bad.
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There were concerns about people strangling themselves while charging the phone with a cable. And the additional heat is probably also a factor.

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They need to figure out the overheating before dealing with the charging if its hot already, imagine how much worse it would be while charging! At least we can quick charge!
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Well the samsung demo booth had a battery with a cord and a special cover with a hole in it. The cord was mainly for security (the battery screamed when removed from the phone, which the guy setting it up had to do to reboot it occasionally), but I'm pretty sure it also supplied power, since it was the only one in the booth and the thing was running all day long. We might be able to make our own usb-powered battery blank. Not only can we then do external power, but it should also help remove some heat. If there's enough room you could even add a peltier

I know its more money but invest in the official battery kit. If you're serious about using VR it's really the smartest option especially if you're showing off at a party.
I was watching this live YouTube stream and the guy was killing me with his low battery issues. It takes a minute to swap for hours of entertainment. And your depleted battery is charging as well. I bought mine at bestbuy because Samsung is always out of stock.

Pixel 5 on Verizon help with warranty

So I bought a Pixel 5 from Verizon Late November and got it in December and I'm already having battery health issues and charge port issues (which I don't understand I mainly wirelessly charge my phone and only use the cord if I need to top up within a day which is happening more often after only two months of use) and I'm wondering if it would be better to go through Verizon's protection plan to get a replacement or if I should use the manufacturer warranty to get one I never tried the protection plan and I'm new to Verizon and I just hoping that someone has experience with both and give me some advice, thank you

What are your charge port issues?

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What are your charge port issues?
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Connection problems if the cord moves slightly it no longer charges and it does this on multiple chargers, and the battery barley lasts me a 10 hour shift to be fair I live in Montana and the extreme cold could hurt the battery longevity, the typical temp highs we see are 6°f

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Connection problems if the cord moves slightly it no longer charges and it does this on multiple chargers, and the battery barley lasts me a 10 hour shift to be fair I live in Montana and the extreme cold could hurt the battery longevity, the typical temp highs we see are 6°f
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Try getting a replacement from Verizon. Tell them your charge port is not working properly. They should send you a replacement under warranty, no charge and overnight it.
As for battery issues there are a few battery threads around. Most of them recommend you install BBS and monitor activity through that first. That will tell you what's draining your battery.
[APP][2.2+][11 Dec. 2022 - V3.1] BetterBatteryStats
I started BetterBatteryStats because I was missing the great battery history that Spare Parts allowed to call on Froyo. It has been a long journey since the first version. BetterBatteryStats provides an insight in following categories: - General...
forum.xda-developers.com

AaronGavin said:
Connection problems if the cord moves slightly it no longer charges and it does this on multiple chargers, and the battery barley lasts me a 10 hour shift to be fair I live in Montana and the extreme cold could hurt the battery longevity, the typical temp highs we see are 6°f
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Your charging port probably has lint and/or other debris in it. Get something really thin like the dull end of a sewing needle and try digging it out.
If you plug your cord into the port, and the cord isn't fully seated and can be wiggled around, you have debris in it.

bobby janow said:
What are your charge port issues?
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bobby janow said:
What are your charge port issues?
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bobby janow said:
Try getting a replacement from Verizon. Tell them your charge port is not working properly. They should send you a replacement under warranty, no charge and overnight it.
As for battery issues there are a few battery threads around. Most of them recommend you install BBS and monitor activity through that first. That will tell you what's draining your battery.
[APP][2.2+][11 Dec. 2022 - V3.1] BetterBatteryStats
I started BetterBatteryStats because I was missing the great battery history that Spare Parts allowed to call on Froyo. It has been a long journey since the first version. BetterBatteryStats provides an insight in following categories: - General...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Update, got the Warranty replacement sent boy Verizon does not make that easy

I truly prefer using Google, the Advanced RMA makes it easier but Verizon will do what you tell them - it's best to be aggressive

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I truly prefer using Google, the Advanced RMA makes it easier but Verizon will do what you tell them - it's best to be aggressive
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Funny story, I started the warranty replacement through them and they texted me a order number, said I would receive a email confirmation never did, And idk if it shipped or not yet everytime I try to inquire about it through their text chat service they try to sell me stuff with my plan and sometimes they can't even check the order for me ands it's been beyond 5 days I wouldn't be so weird about it if the email had sent and I knew an email would go out when the tracking number posted, as there's a ton of people who steal packages in my neighborhood it's just been frustrating I might try to go through Google if I waited this whole time and they never sent it out

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Funny story, I started the warranty replacement through them and they texted me a order number, said I would receive a email confirmation never did, And idk if it shipped or not yet everytime I try to inquire about it through their text chat service they try to sell me stuff with my plan and sometimes they can't even check the order for me ands it's been beyond 5 days I wouldn't be so weird about it if the email had sent and I knew an email would go out when the tracking number posted, as there's a ton of people who steal packages in my neighborhood it's just been frustrating I might try to go through Google if I waited this whole time and they never sent it out
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Go ahead and be proactive. Tell them you NEED to know if it was sent and why you dqdn get an email
Last thing you want is them to get a notification it was delivered and you don't receive it. At least they'll know now

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Go ahead and be proactive. Tell them you NEED to know if it was sent and why you dqdn get an email
Last thing you want is them to get a notification it was delivered and you don't receive it. At least they'll know now
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Well Verizon told me they would charge me $300 if they received the device back and it had charger port issues they would say it's a damaged device so I had to go through Google to get a replacement

AaronGavin said:
Well Verizon told me they would charge me $300 if they received the device back and it had charger port issues they would say it's a damaged device so I had to go through Google to get a replacement
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Once again, clean out your port. If you plug the charging cable into it, and you can wiggle the cable around and it's not seated solidly, you have debris in it. Use the dull end of a needle, a plastic floss pick, or a flat tooth pic might work too.
This exact thing happened to me when I first got my HTC 10. I took it in to a carrier that wasn't mine (mine didn't have the HTC 10 available) and he told me it was debris. I dug in there with the dull end of a needle a bit and nothing came out at first. Then I dug in there hard. Pushing my cable in trying to get my phone to charge had packed it down in the bottom. I dug hard and stuff started coming out. That fixed it though. Since then, I either use a can of compressed air or blow hard into it with my mouth to make sure it's clear before I plug my phones in.