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[Q] What all is needed for full SIM unlock Droid 3 ???

So,
I think, that SIM unlock procedure is the same as for Droid 2 Global.
Phone must be activated on Verizon.
Phone must be activated for global using.
Then can phone accept unlock code.
Without activating phone cannot accept unlock code for other network carriers.
Unlock code can be from verizon, or can be purchased on ebay (approx $20).
Is this right ???

It doesn't have to be activated. The other points are correct.

aha.......

rweb said:
It doesn't have to be activated. The other points are correct.
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hmmm...so not same as on Droid 2 Global ?
I bought in January two Droid 2 global.
One was new and one was one month used.
The new was not able to accept unlock code - always Code Error.
The used was unlocked with no problems, because was activated on Verizon.

I'm not sure about D2G. Had one, but from a seller on ebay.com who provided Verizon unlock codes -- so of course it was activated.
My D3 however I bought from Motorola Store and had it shipped directly to Germany, unlocked it here with third party codes. It definitely never was activated.

I just unlocked my D3, you don't need Verizon to activate it. All you need to do is to bypass the activation screen using the "four corner" trick, and then enter the subsidy code aka the unlock code.

this is super...thanks

eXecuter.bin said:
I just unlocked my D3, you don't need Verizon to activate it. All you need to do is to bypass the activation screen using the "four corner" trick, and then enter the subsidy code aka the unlock code.
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Just for sure, because you live in Canada and use Bell, you're talking about the Verizon Droid 3 XT862 (USA) and not the Bell XT860 (Canada) ?

Yes, I am talking about the actual Droid 3 aka XT862. The procedure would be the same for all phones regardless.

eXecuter.bin said:
Yes, I am talking about the actual Droid 3 aka XT860. The procedure would be the same for all phones regardless.
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Verizon's Droid 3 is XT862.
XT860 4G Bell release here in Canada is not Droid 3. It is XT860 4G.

Yes I meant to say the XT862, made a typo.

rweb said:
I'm not sure about D2G. Had one, but from a seller on ebay.com who provided Verizon unlock codes -- so of course it was activated.
My D3 however I bought from Motorola Store and had it shipped directly to Germany, unlocked it here with third party codes. It definitely never was activated.
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Anyway you could PM me this "4 corner trick". And "subsidy code/ unlock code". In the meantime I will return to searching the forums for this fix.
Thanks

eXecuter.bin said:
I just unlocked my D3, you don't need Verizon to activate it. All you need to do is to bypass the activation screen using the "four corner" trick, and then enter the subsidy code aka the unlock code.
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Could you please explain how to activate the "four corner" trick ? My D3 after enter the unlock code which bought from unlock4moto.com displayed a sentence " Your fone is subsidy lock. Pls contact network operator...". I wonder do I have any chance to unlock my Droid 3 in this case. I bought this D3 from ebay so I surely could not contact VRZ for there help. If you can help me with my case that mean you save my life

verizon sim in at&t model

Has anyone attempted to put a Verizon sim in an at&t model?
On the teardown it says it has the radio.

Needs to be SIM unlocked from ATT from what I gather. Chances are pretty low that A. ATT let very many buy one without an ATT account at retail B. They would unlock it to be used on a rival.

chroot said:
Has anyone attempted to put a Verizon sim in an at&t model?
On the teardown it says it has the radio.
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NO wont work.... Verizon is CDMA AT&T is GSM.
The ONLY reason Verizon has sim cards is for LTE.... It absolutely WONT work lol.
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jmill75 said:
Needs to be SIM unlocked from ATT from what I gather. Chances are pretty low that A. ATT let very many buy one without an ATT account at retail B. They would unlock it to be used on a rival.
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Verizon is a CDMA carrier, The ONLY reason they use sim cards is for the LTE network. So it doesnt matter if the phone is unlocked or not..

hyelton said:
NO wont work.... Verizon is CDMA AT&T is GSM.
The ONLY reason Verizon has sim cards is for LTE.... It absolutely WONT work lol.
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Verizon is a CDMA carrier, The ONLY reason they use sim cards is for the LTE network. So it doesnt matter if the phone is unlocked or not..
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The Teardown shows a GSM and CDMA radio. The LTE SIM is used even on Verizon to identify the device on the network.

chroot said:
The Teardown shows a GSM and CDMA radio. The LTE SIM is used even on Verizon to identify the device on the network.
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Believe me or not, ITS NOT going to work... The phone does not have a CDMA radio, if it did its very pointless as it would only apply to countries like India.
CDMA Carriers like Verizon,Sprint, and U.S.Cellular ONLY ALLOW THERE DEVICES to be used on there network and nothing else.
Its just simply NOT going to work.
IF you look on the back of the AT&T Model do you see an ESN?? No you dont you will only see an IMEI which means it does NOT have a cdma radio in it.

QUOTE=hyelton;44948926]Believe me or not, ITS NOT going to work... The phone does not have a CDMA radio, if it did its very pointless as it would only apply to countries like India.
CDMA Carriers like Verizon,Sprint, and U.S.Cellular ONLY ALLOW THERE DEVICES to be used on there network and nothing else.
Its just simply NOT going to work
IF you look on the back of the AT&T Model do you see an ESN?? No you dont you will only see an IMEI which means it does NOT have a cdma radio in it.[/QUOTE]
Good info at i fix it said it does. I assume software locked
Didn't mean to incur the wrath of all caps.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Moto+X+Teardown/16867/1

The Wrath of all caps! Haha
Anyway Its NOT software locked. Its a limitation as the Verizon Network is NOT gsm. Software or not its not at all possible to use any non verizon phone on the Verizon Network.

Just wanted to thank everyone who took time to comment on this. It was a great help. Sadly I had to move to a Samsung Galaxy 4.
I cry a little on the inside every time I say "Ok Google Now" and it looks at me with that blank stare....
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LG G4 work with Verizon or any other carriers?

I am wondering if my Sprint LG G4 model LGLS991 will work with Verizon or any other carriers if I unlock the phone?

Wondering the same unlocked mine already.

MetalMan889 said:
I am wondering if my Sprint LG G4 model LGLS991 will work with Verizon or any other carriers if I unlock the phone?
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It will never work, Verzion will never activate a sprint phone and sprint will never activate a verzion phone. Radio's, compatiblity -- none of that matters. Phones are tied to specific carriers (CDMA only) when they are sold and there's nothing we can do to change that.

I guess that answers my question. But I have seen people saying they have used a sprint phone on verizon.

I know sprint phones won't work on Verizon just curious if lte compatibility with t mobile or cricket

pickneters said:
I know sprint phones won't work on Verizon just curious if lte compatibility with t mobile or cricket
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If you get it unlocked (by sprint), then it'll work on any GSM carrier outside of United States. Even after its unlocked, it'll not work on Domestic GSM carriers.

Because of the frequencies? There are two types of unlocks domestic and international. Mine is unlocked on both.

Sprint will not do a domestic unlock, unless you have access to their back end system that handles unlocks. (even then I don't think its possible). Have you actually tried using an AT&T or TMobile (US Only) sims in your sprint phone? Even if you have the appropriate radio, the carrier lock will prevent it from working on any domestic network.
I know this from a very reliable source inside sprint.
The most sprint will do for you is unlock it for international use granted you are current on your bill and your account is in good standing.

If you own the phone outright they will unlock for domestic use. New law went into effect in February, also wife works for sprint. It was an annoying process but I finally found someone who knew what they were doing. Yes an at&t sim works in the phone.

What about using a sprint phone on Boost or Virgin? Or possibly using a donor phone as was done before laws changed then changed again?

WOW...
chirayu said:
It will never work, Verzion will never activate a sprint phone and sprint will never activate a verzion phone. Radio's, compatiblity -- none of that matters. Phones are tied to specific carriers (CDMA only) when they are sold and there's nothing we can do to change that.
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Hate to bust your bubble...but it totally depends on the phone. Lol...Nexus 6 works on Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular, ATT, TMobile...u name it it works. and the sweet thing is the US Cellular version comes unlocked. I put every active sim card in it I have and worked just fine, calls texts LTE. Thanks for the info tho.
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MetalMan889 said:
I guess that answers my question. But I have seen people saying they have used a sprint phone on verizon.
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Sprint Nexus 6 works on Verizon. Its already unlocked... All u gotta do is put your active verizon sim in it.
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pickneters said:
I know sprint phones won't work on Verizon just curious if lte compatibility with t mobile or cricket
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Sprint Nexus 6 works on Verizon. I really wish folks would research before using the words,,, NO or Never. Totally untrue. Just depends on the phone pickneters....
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chirayu said:
Sprint will not do a domestic unlock, unless you have access to their back end system that handles unlocks. (even then I don't think its possible). Have you actually tried using an AT&T or TMobile (US Only) sims in your sprint phone? Even if you have the appropriate radio, the carrier lock will prevent it from working on any domestic network.
I know this from a very reliable source inside sprint.
The most sprint will do for you is unlock it for international use granted you are current on your bill and your account is in good standing.
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You are feeding wrong info to this thread as well. Yes, it will work. Sprint just makes it a hassle to unlock (DSU)....

sd_N said:
Hate to bust your bubble...but it totally depends on the phone. Lol...Nexus 6 works on Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular, ATT, TMobile...u name it it works. and the sweet thing is the US Cellular version comes unlocked. I put every active sim card in it I have and worked just fine, calls texts LTE. Thanks for the info tho.
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Nexus 6 is factory unlocked, do some research before you go bursting bubbles.
You are feeding wrong info to this thread as well. Yes, it will work. Sprint just makes it a hassle to unlock (DSU)....
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So you're telling me sprint will activate a verizon phone?
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For those that are still curious go here
http://www.sprint.com/legal/unlocking_policy.html?ECID=vanity:unlock
and here's what you can take away from DSU.
"For inactive devices, customers must contact Sprint Customer Care to request that their DSU-capable device be unlocked and may have to take steps to perform an over-the-air update to ensure the unlock programming has been relayed to the device. Additional validation may be required to ensure eligibility.
Sprint makes no guaranty that an unlocked device will work on another carrier's network. Whether another carrier will accept and activate a device is subject to that carrier's policies and capabilities. Additionally, Sprint devices which the owner has attempted to reprogram or activate on another carrier's network or otherwise altered from its initial programming or settings may not be able to be reactivated on the Sprint network."
So to clarify, even if sprint unlocks your tray, it is more than likely that Verzion WILL NOT activate a sprint phone on their network.

chirayu said:
So you're telling me sprint will activate a verizon phone?
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With LTE phones, you don't have to activate anything if you have an active SIM card. Of course, it needs to be unlocked to work on different carriers. My VZW G3 works on Sprint just by popping in a Sprint SIM.

Not true
chirayu said:
Nexus 6 is factory unlocked, do some research before you go bursting bubbles.
So you're telling me sprint will activate a verizon phone?
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For those that are still curious go here
http://www.sprint.com/legal/unlocking_policy.html?ECID=vanity:unlock
and here's what you can take away from DSU.
"For inactive devices, customers must contact Sprint Customer Care to request that their DSU-capable device be unlocked and may have to take steps to perform an over-the-air update to ensure the unlock programming has been relayed to the device. Additional validation may be required to ensure eligibility.
Sprint makes no guaranty that an unlocked device will work on another carrier's network. Whether another carrier will accept and activate a device is subject to that carrier's policies and capabilities. Additionally, Sprint devices which the owner has attempted to reprogram or activate on another carrier's network or otherwise altered from its initial programming or settings may not be able to be reactivated on the Sprint network."
So to clarify, even if sprint unlocks your tray, it is more than likely that Verzion WILL NOT activate a sprint phone on their network.
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AT&T Nexus 6 isnt factory unlocked. Lol

Now I remember why I stopped coming to xda.

It's simple: It will never work on another CDMA carrier. Only a select few will work on a domestic GSM carrier; if you have a carrier version that is "unlocked", it will not work on another carrier. It could possible work on Boost or Virgin, since they use Sprint, but YMMV

Xt1250 gsm doesnt work finland

So, i've been trying to help @Wile_e with his xt1250 let me start from the beginning.
he bought an XT1250 for Cellcom, He wants to use GSM while he is on Finland and Wants to use CDMA on verizon on USA.
Actually he is trying to use with Carrier Saunalahti the carrier uses 900/1800/2100 GSM bands and those are supported by Droid Turbo/ Moto Maxx.
For some reason when he pops in the sim card he says it cant found any networks, but he puts it in on a RAZR I and it works.
I made him look into Global mode and GSM/LTE, also nothing.
First thing i made him do was, Unlock the bootloader.
Then i made him install the unbranded Firmware for XT1250.
He did that, nothing changed, no networks detected.
Then i made him flash droid turbo radio, same nothing happened and lost wifi, so, thats not a way.
so im thinking as xt1250 is closer to moto maxx, recommend him flash moto maxx kitkat radio, but im afraid it will lose the CDMA properties.
im also thinking into flashing full lollipop but that would make him not come back to stock xt1250 firmware due to gt.bin updating.
i also remember someone said that moto turbo firmware and radio had both options but im not sure.
what do you guys think will be a good solution?
invoking the help of @chazzmat , @Semseddin , @Skrilax_CZ

Has he actually tried to choose an APN?
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The way my Moto Maxx was locked to Claro until the dealer unlocked it, could be something similar? Can an online service "unlock" it for him?

I was thinking last night we tried to use the XT1250 original with the Droid Turbo radio. What if we used the radio from cyanogenmod? I imagine that team has unlocked all radios, no?

I think it is not globally unlocked like like XT1254 since it has the basic gsm bands for sure.

ChazzMatt said:
The way my Moto Maxx was locked to Claro until the dealer unlocked it, could be something similar? Can an online service "unlock" it for him?
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Semseddin said:
I think it is not globally unlocked like like XT1254 since it has the basic gsm bands for sure.
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This phone definitely works with Verizon (many, many people have proved this) -- but this specific carrier (Cellcom) may have locked the global capabilities. Just needs to be unlocked.
How to Unlock Motorola Phones
http://www.wikihow.com/Unlock-Motorola-Phones-with-Windows
When you buy a new mobile phone you will probably get a good deal by signing up with a service provider at the same time. To make sure you stick with the plan, your service provider will lock your phone, making it impossible to use the phone with other providers or take advantage of the full GSM capabilities of your handset when traveling the world. Nor will you be able to use your sim card in other phones, or other sim cards in your phone. Unlocking the phone gets rid of these limitations and allows you to use multiple sim cards and multiple providers on your phone, in addition to greatly increasing the resale value of the phone.
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http://www.cellcom.com/unlocking-devices.html said:
Unlocking Devices
Cellcom does not lock most devices, including devices that were released after February 2015. Our devices are typically not programmed with locks or unique service programming codes, so there is no need to perform any "unlocking". "Unlocking" a device refers only to disabling software that would prevent a consumer from attempting to activate a device designed for one carrier's network on another carrier's network, even if that network is technologically compatible.
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This is from cellcom page

Jaocagomez said:
This is from cellcom page
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Well, the phone was released before Februrary 2015, and they say "most".
Something is blocking the GSM.
I still haven't heard that he changed to LTE/GSM from LTE/CDMA/GSM. I know he wants to use CDMA in U.S. but for now change it just to see...
Also haven't heard that he manually chose an APN.
Those were my other two suggestions...
Then there's the unlocking thing to try, even if Cellcom claims it's not locked.

ChazzMatt said:
Well, the phone was released before Februrary 2015, and they say "most".
Something is blocking the GSM.
I still haven't heard that he changed to LTE/GSM from LTE/CDMA/GSM. I know he wants to use CDMA in U.S. but for now change it just to see...
Also haven't heard that he manually chose an APN.
Those were my other two suggestions...
Then there's the unlocking thing to try, even if Cellcom claims it's not locked.
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he already did the apn things and band stuff. maybe the phone its from the last year so not yet unlocked?

Yes I've tried all suggestions, sorry for not posting earlier about it. I suppose I could try the unlocking, don't see a downside to trying. But wouldn't flashing a new ROM/Radio bypass that lock anyway?

I'm going to attempt contacting the carrier for an unlock code, but I am not too hopeful as I am not a customer of theirs. In the event they say no, does anybody know of a reputable imei unlocking company? I'd prefer not to trust the first one in my google results. Thanks!

Swiftunlocks.com
Sent from my XT1225 using XDA Free mobile app

Radio is likely not to be compatible, since there is actual HW difference (you can flash the radio from Brazil XT1225, and in build.prop under /system change ro.fsg-id from "lra" to "singlela"), same thing needs to be done when using verizon radio I think, but unsure if that doesn't have the XT1250 LRA bundled with itself. You can switch to VZW radio if you change ro.fsg-id from "lra' to "verizon". To play with ro.fsg-id, check the files under /fsg - then the radio will select the one in format as: quark_XXXX_N.img.gz, where N is just some number and it XXXX is what's under your ro.fsg-id.
You can try lollipop for VZW freely with unlocked bootloader, since not being to able to downgrade bootloader / gpt.bin isn't a big deal with that (just be careful not to re-lock your device or apply OTA after downgrade).

Semseddin said:
Swiftunlocks.com
Sent from my XT1225 using XDA Free mobile app
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Thanks but unfortunately the Moto Maxx is not listed as one of their phones that can be unlocked. And not surprising no other imei unlocker that I've found has it listed as an un-lockable device.
If that was good enough news, here's some more.
From a discussion with Cellcom today:
Cellcom: There is no way to unlock it with our system. The process cannot be reversed if it was locked. Our company does not have that ability.
Looks like I am scrod, unless I can navigate the unlocking process manually.

I believe in what Cellcom told to you, You might try your luck contacting motorola usa - white gloves deparment. Btw did you try another foreign simcard from another operator in your maxx ? (assuming the simcard is broken)

Semseddin said:
I believe in what Cellcom told to you, You might try your luck contacting motorola usa - white gloves deparment. Btw did you try another foreign simcard from another operator in your maxx ? (assuming the simcard is broken)
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I haven't tried another SIM but I do use this SIM currently in my other phone, the Moto RAZR I. I also used this same SIM in my Droid Turbo when it was still alive. So I don't think it's the SIM card.

wile e said:
Thanks but unfortunately the Moto Maxx is not listed as one of their phones that can be unlocked. And not surprising no other imei unlocker that I've found has it listed as an un-lockable device.
If that was good enough news, here's some more.
From a discussion with Cellcom today:
Cellcom: There is no way to unlock it with our system. The process cannot be reversed if it was locked. Our company does not have that ability.
Looks like I am scrod, unless I can navigate the unlocking process manually.
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I wish they could give you a clear answer if it's locked or not.
That's the only reason I can come up with at the moment.
By law U.S. carriers are required to unlock phones so you can use on other carriers.
I would remind them of that, see if it motivates them to help you.

It appears I have come to a dead end. We have exhausted all suggestions here as well as all ideas that have arisen in-between. Thanks to all that offered support, especially @Jaocagomez. It is all appreciated.
When I head back Stateside I will be selling this phone and picking up another Droid Turbo.
Cheers.

Actually there's a thing that doesn't seem right. I've just noticed on the screens (in the other thread) that it does not recognise that the SIM is inserted, while if it's a carrier lock, it should usually recognise inserted SIM but refuse to register on the network. I wonder if there's actual hardware problem with reading the SIM card.
btw. Anyway I'd recommend buying XT1225 over XT1254, works just fine with Sonera and and supports all their 4G bands, and so it does in US for AT&T.

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Actually there's a thing that doesn't seem right. I've just noticed on the screens (in the other thread) that it does not recognise that the SIM is inserted, while if it's a carrier lock, it should usually recognise inserted SIM but refuse to register on the network. I wonder if there's actual hardware problem with reading the SIM card.
btw. Anyway I'd recommend buying XT1225 over XT1254, works just fine with Sonera and and supports all their 4G bands, and so it does in US for AT&T.
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No it does recognize the SIM is inserted, but cannot connect to any tower. I've taken some screenshots with the SIM unloaded as I still need to communicate (via my Razr I).
Unfortunately I need the CDMA portion of the XT1254, this is why I took such a gamble on the XT1250. Where I work in NY Verizon (CDMA) is the strongest signal by far.
The odd part is we're switching our service from Saunalahti to Elisa, and for a moment I inserted the yet-to-be activated SIM into my XT1250 and for a moment it recognized Sonera and Elisa's networks. But I couldn't do anything since the SIM was not activated. It might have been a fluke, but it gave me hope for a bit longer.
I still cannot understand how I can unlock the bootloader, re flash new ROMs, update the radios but still have the GSM bands 'locked'. This should be solvable. I just don't have the knowledge in this field to go any further, but this still feels to me like something is missing. It kills me to give up on this handset.

Ah I see. It still doesn't make much sense. Moto used to only lock other US carriers. Hmm anyway I wonder if you happen to have your IMEI blacklisted on Saunalahti / Elisa (more info: http://asiakastuki.elisa.fi/ohje/8/ ).
Also radio is separate from unlocking the bootloader, signature is enforcef there despite unlocking the boooader, for security & certification reasons. That's why it still doesn't help if it's sim locked.

unlock Verizon droid 4 for use in EU (SOLVED)

Hi
Any advise on unlocking my recently bought Verizon Droid 4? I tried the service from sim-unlock.net and they seem to have troubles doing it, because the device uses CMDA and cannot be unlocked by code.
I am stuck right now and searching for a solution mainly provided unsuccessful stories or questions without answers. I have tried the default 000000 and 123456 and they failed and have only one more try left
Please keep in mind I don't live in the US and calling Verizon can be pretty costly. I've seen a post of someone calling Verizon for hours and never managed to unlock his phone.
Phone bought on ebay from a seller in the US should be unlocked to be used on a GSM network in Europe. I already bought a pre-paid sim card

Just replying to my own post to give an update.
The code that was prompted to enter was not to unlock it from the previous carrier, but the sim unlock code from the pre-paid card.
After unlocking that I could immediately start calling with it. So I assume this Droid is already unlocked... I was totally surprised by that, I was convinced that unlocking was necessary (it was even mentioned by the seller from ebay)
While investigating this I found out you can call to the US very cheap (1 ct / minute) by some services. So I've learned a few useful things
Now my next challenge will be to install cyanogenmod on the Droid

t--b said:
After unlocking that I could immediately start calling with it.
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Imho all Droid 4's are GSM unlocked. GSM is what's been used in the EU so it will work just fine.
They are only locked to Verizon in the US (CDMA instead of GSM).